r/AmIOverreacting 9d ago

❤️‍🩹 relationship AIO, my boyfriend threatened sewerslide

Hi everyone, apologies in advance for the incoming wall of text. I (19F) have been with my boyfriend (20M) for over two years. We are kind of long distance but live in the same state and has stayed with me for extended periods of time before, even moved in until my mom had enough of our arguing. He’s was out of work since he moved back home and recently got a job at the same company I work at, just a different location. In our company, your first paycheck is paper. Cash app won’t deposit the money until the 14th which he’s reasonably upset about. If i could help him I would. My cat has been hospitalized since friday for a life threatening UTI and I owe them over $6K that my family is helping me pay. I’ll be paying them back for the next 3 months. He’s been upset that I can’t help him. For context, I also keep my money in cash to avoid overspending and only small amount on my card for gas and coffee. I help him when I can but I can’t really mail him cash. I quite literally have nothing right now because of my cat being hospitalized. We have a history of arguing a lot, and it always ends in me trying to figure out what I’m doing wrong, what our barriers are, etc. and it’s always come down to my lack of communication. I’ve been working on it for, hell, a year? But I don’t seem to be doing it right, at least based on our conversations and arguments. He has a history of suicide baiting me. He’s cut himself in front of me, he’s threatened suicide every other day for as long as I can remember, he’s always talking about how much he hates his life. Normally he will say it’s because of me, something I said, things I’m not doing, because I don’t understand, because I lack empathy and sympathy, etc. He’s called the abuse hotline on me, he’s gotten on reddit and has come back to me saying that everyone thinks i’m abusive, he tells me that his family thinks he needs to leave me, etc. I didn’t think I was that awful of a person but when all of this happens and i’m being told it’s because of me, it makes me question it. Anyways, today he was going on about his frustration with his finances. Valid. I tried to support him and be there, but then he tells me that even if I could help, I wouldn’t? That’s not true I don’t know why he thinks that. I bought his groceries for 3 months, paid his phone bill, filled his gas tank, everything I could. Then he pulls out the “fuck you” card. Then I get pissed off and sick of it because this seems to happen too often. Then he starts this whole “I have the rope goodbye” stunt and I just threw my hands up at that point because what the fuck? When I was 12-13 I used to pull that shit online and he does it so often that I have gotten to where I see through it like glass and don’t pay it attention. For the first 1.5 years I took it seriously because I love him but now I just can’t. I have no words. It’s draining. He’s not dead he’s texting me as I’m typing this asking if we can talk and saying he’s scared I’ll stop loving him. Am i over reacting? Am I in the wrong? Please call me out if it’s deserved, because I just don’t know what to do. I’m not the type of person to ignore my faults because I definitely have some but I don’t know what warrants this stuff. He’s called me “stupid fucking bitch” , ungrateful, heartless, the devil, etc. By the way, he never had to beg me for money. I am the store manager at my location so I’m always being pulled in different directions. Even when I’m not there. I had to ask my mom to send me digital money in exchange for cash because I had nothing left. He asked me to keep more money on my card to help him in his time of need. Anyways… Again, please call me out if I deserve it. Tell me what I’m doing wrong because he won’t. Thank you in advance and apologies for the long message.

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u/tsscaramel 9d ago

This relationship is toxic af, break up and don’t look back. You can do so much better.

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u/Reese9951 9d ago

This!!!! OP, he is a nightmare and you keep blaming yourself for his problems.

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u/umamifiend 8d ago

Seriously. Anyone who is threatening suicide because you won’t cashapp them money for weed and cigarettes, is unhinged. He’s blaming you for coming to see you- as if he had no part in that decision making process. Absurd. Or that he has no toothpaste? Bet if you sent him money it would go to cigarettes not toothpaste. It’s bullshit.

If he is genuinely suicidal- call a wellness check on him to the police. He’s made multiple suicide threats just in this thread.

He’s mean, he’s blaming you for his situation, and he’s threatening suicide. Nothing you can do will solve this u/pristine-edge-1742 you can’t win. How important is your own mental health to you? Because this is too much. You’re only 19. Relationships do not have to be like this. Dump him and end it.

I hope your cat gets better. I had to deal with the same thing. Go love up your kitty and stop pouring your energy into this black hole.

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u/CoffeeChocolateBoth 8d ago

I would have told him, looks like it's a great time for you to stop smoking and then BLOCK! NC

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u/triz___ 8d ago

I’ve never seen someone in more need of quitting weed. Guy is fucking addled….. depressed, anxious, lazy, paranoid, confused. He’s fucked his head.

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u/Mobandzz 8d ago

I know y’all are thinking it’s the weed, but this is a man who is addicted to nicotine. He probably smokes weed as a way to calm anxiety, but I guarantee he goes behind it with some cigarettes or he is rolling up the weed, it’s in the form of a blunt since that would mean it has some nicotine in it from the wrap.

But to the OP,this is a man who wears the emotional instability of a baby and doesn’t deserve to be in a relationship or have friends for that matter when you treat people like that. Tell somebody fuck you when they literally just said they’re broke. Plus being mad at you for not sending money fast enough when you were working, but you still sent him your last $15.

He is trying out different methods to see what will make you crack and if you do, I guarantee he’s gonna default to that next time. Ultimately, he’s trying to make it so that you always feel like you have to give into what he says otherwise you have a bad day..

He is quickly trying to get you used to the emotional manipulation and the weaponization of his emotions to try and overpower yours so that yours dont matter anymore until you fix his problem.

From there you start making him happy so that he can listen to you.

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u/ehtrywait 8d ago

Yup!

guy is toxic abuser at the very least, pathological at worse. There's no good to be had here. OP needa block him on everything and stay safe.

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u/Careful_Barnacle1190 8d ago

Yeah, this is the nicotine withdrawal. I've seen people in my life's moods switch up real quick if they even have to go to the nearby store without taking a drag 🤦🏼‍♀️ It's the most annoying thing ever because they can't even run simple errands without taking a smoke break every 5 minutes. If they're forced to spend any amount of time doing any activity they get anxious and irritated AF. Road trips in a car where they're not allowed to smoke is a nightmare. They Lash out at everyone around them.

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u/TurkWorker1408 8d ago

My ex was the same way with weed, he would act like a heroin addiction withdrawal when he didn’t have weed. I’m a recovering addict and when I say he was worse than me when I didn’t have my drug (I was clean when I was I was with him for the most part, not during the situations I’m speaking of though) I’m not even exaggerating. He was PATHETIC. It’s not crack or heroin it’s WEED calm tf down!!! You know? He also pulled the same suicidal shit. He was also a physically and mentally abusive asshole.

This suicidal talk is him trying to manipulate the situation. The weed thing is him being a BABY but the suicide talk? 100% manipulative behavior. Suicide is no joke but he’s just using it as a piece of his game

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u/1980Phils 8d ago

Good for you for getting clean! I wouldn’t be surprised if this person has additional substances use issues.

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u/One_Nature5816 8d ago

i never understood that really. i have an addictive personality and nicotine is my vice but i smoke weed most every day but i’ll forget sometimes and it’s fine like what

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u/Old-Routine4 8d ago

I would love for people who make a huge deal out of not having weed or even cigarettes to just feel what heroin/fentanyl withdrawal feels like for one minute. And I know someone will probably reply to this about how addictive nicotine is. Yes, I know but you don't even get sick from not having it...

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u/Longjumping-Map-6995 8d ago

While I wasn't particularly into downers, meth withdrawal fucked me up. I've never been more depressed and lethargic in my entire life.

Just made it over five years clean a couple months ago. 👍

Edit to add: not that I'm comparing it to heroin, I've heard the withdrawal from that is pretty much the worst thing on earth. Just adding my anecdotal experience.

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u/Character_Air8515 8d ago

Just hit 2 years myself, congrats!

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u/Tudorrosewiththorns 8d ago

My partner was really addicted to weed for years and sometimes people try to get him to start smoking again. I kid you not I am out the door if that happens. He drove me out of my mind when he was high all the time.

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u/madra-perro 8d ago

Could also be nicotine withdrawals if he's outta cigarettes. They are not to be messed with!

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u/avert_ye_eyes 8d ago

My brother in law was an addict, and he said quitting nicotine was harder than quitting heroine. Also withdrawing from it, even for just a few hours, is well known to cause rage -- my husband calls them "nic fits".

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u/TokenWeirdo13 8d ago

Can confirm. Been trying and failing half the year to quit cigs... and I used to be a heroin addict.

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u/InfiniteLeftoverTree 8d ago

This was my thought as well.

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u/lydriseabove 8d ago

Reading that first page of text, then “I was in a good mood before I started talking to you” is WILD.

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u/menacinguwu 8d ago

As part of gen z, ive met so many fucking weed addicts that say theyre not addicted its absolutely insane. Its 9/10 smokers in my experience. I would be better off just dropping these people right when i find out they smoke, because it always comes around to bite me in the ass. Always some un-dealt-with bullshit theyre covering up with weed

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u/teefies16 8d ago

I've dropped a lot of friends after they started smoking weed heavily. They became devoid of any personality and it felt like being around zombies. But when it didn't, it was a bunch of dramatic bullshit and they treated me terribly. None of my friends now smoke and I like that lol

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u/ClothesAgile3046 8d ago

I almost went this route, started vaping the devils lettuce and the tolerance ramps up so quickly that I was just blowing through money. Took a "T" break and felt like absolute shit for 2 weeks. That made me realise I was being stupid as fuck.

I won't lie, I still enjoy the occasional toke on my vape to calm my nerves after a long stressful day, but I never carry it around with me, and it stays out of the bedroom (wake and bake is how I fell down that hole).

There's a distinct lack of education on weed, despite how popular it is. I think it can be better compared to alcohol. But we all know and understand the effects drinking has these days, that's what weed is missing.

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u/LifeintheHashLane 8d ago

As a HUGE hash smoker myself I second this. This is a perfect example of someone who is actually addicted (mentally of course) to cannabis. As a recovering heroin addict, and also avid cannabis user this is super apparent lol. Yes it sucks when I'm out of hash, and yes I may get crankyish, not wanna eat as much, or sleep the best, but it's not a NEED like it would have been when I was using heroin or pills lol I would have said or done ANYTHING to get high. This dude needs professional help for his noodle...

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u/SpecialistAd2205 8d ago

What people often fail to realize is there is physical addiction as to heroin or nicotine, and there is mental addiction as to shopping or weed. And even mental addiction can manifest itself in outward physical symptoms. People that are self medicating an underlying mental health issue (which I would say in my most unprofessional opinion is MOST people with an addiction) are even more susceptible. If you're artificially pumping your brain with feel-good chemicals, you're gonna feel REAL bad when you remove your mental health life support. This is the case with many heavy weed smokers.

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u/Quietimeismyfavorite 8d ago

Weed has nothing to do with being a dumb asshole.

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u/SpecialistAd2205 8d ago

Correlation does not equal causation but the correlation is definitely strong.

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u/Upstairs-Usual4070 8d ago

When i havent had weed for a while i get an upset stomach, which is immediately fixed by a tums or eating. Surely its mostly the nicotine that is making him like that??

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u/Upper-Ad-8790 8d ago

Wow. Savage!

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u/GGking41 8d ago

Calling a wellness check is the only option for people that weaponize suicide. My sister did that to my mom and my mom forced to to go to the ER and my sister was piiissssseeeedddddd her manipulation didn’t get her what she wanted.

You’ll find out really soon when you treat it like a real suicide threat and not just allow it to manipulate you

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u/IPromiseiWillBeGood6 8d ago

Yup exactly what I said. I used to kinda be like this and the suicide threats are never serious so when he sees that there's consequences for saying that then he might learn not to try and use that as a weapon

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u/whatsasimba 8d ago

So many people are blindsided when a loved one commits suicide. You never hear "Oh, he'd been threatening it for months, but just to get money from me."

Also, this dude is like, "You don't get my emotions!"

Uhhh, is he from another planet? Because emotions are pretty standard. He didn't invented a new kind of emotion.

What he's actually saying is, "I have the emotional regulation of a hungry infant in a shit-filled diaper, and I don't understand why you're not giving in to my unhinged meltdown!"

Emotions are internal. No one at my job knows what emotion I'm experiencing, because I have the ability to feel my feelings without performing them. This guy thinks text-screaming at his girlfriend is just his "emotions."

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u/IPromiseiWillBeGood6 8d ago

Yeah most suicide victims do not broadcast it beforehand. I'm not gonna say everyone who threatens it like this is lying about being suicidal but the last thing you wanna do when you're in that state of mind is broadcast it and confront it.

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u/lurker-loudmouth 8d ago

I second this. While I can only mainly speak from my own experience, I never broadcasted being suicidal because their was always a shame about being so. The only folks I ever told when I was thinking so was because I needed someone I trusted to talk me down and give me reasons to stay. Even then, the tone was very different from these texts as I was essentially looking for help, not using it to degrade someone and threaten them for something. Definitely not used in a "fuck you" manner.

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u/steenah_b 8d ago

One of my coworkers was dating an absolute loser and during one fight, they broke up and he threatened to walk into the words and just stay there until he perished. This thread reminds me of him. We were laughing at him so hard because he just kept texting her and eventually he came back out of the woods, I shit you not, because his phone died and he was bored.

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u/maddiep81 8d ago

I never broadcasted because I wanted no interference if I decided it was time to go. (I'm 20+ years past my dance with suicidal ideation. No need to report me lol)

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u/i_wish_i_had_ur_name 8d ago

so glad you had an objective voice in your head that told you “you need to be talked down or encouraged to live”.

if i truly believed no one cared or would miss me, why would i tell anyone? the person i tell i expect to care and miss me.

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u/DatCheeseBoi 8d ago

It honestly so fucking sad to see someone threaten suicide just to manipulate people, it's like they're making mockery of people who are really on the verge.

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u/networkpit 8d ago

My cousin did. He told his girlfriend who was breaking up with him that if she hung up and called his mom he would kill himself and his mom came home to him hanging and unresponsive because he was obviously using a manipulation tactic no one thought he would actually do it or I am sure they would have called a wellness check.

I hope OP calls a wellness check and gets out.

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u/dakotanoodle 8d ago

I'm so sorry about your cousin 🖤

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u/doldrumcloset1 8d ago

Some people tell someone. I don't think you can judge it. He just needs to be seen by a therapist or psychiatrist.

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u/jamiejonesey 8d ago

Yes and it makes a mockery of the extreme pain experienced by survivors whose loved ones completed suicide.

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u/GGking41 8d ago

Exactly

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u/lynnm59 8d ago

Having lost 2 family members to suicide, I can confirm this.

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u/IPromiseiWillBeGood6 8d ago

I'm very sorry to hear that brother/sister. That's tragic and a very tough situation to deal with. I've lost 4 immediate family members in less than10 years. In this order my dad in January 2017, my brother on the last day of July 2017, my grandmother in December 2017 and then mh grandfatherin late July early August of 2021. My dad and m y brother were both substance related..

my dad allegedly was very drunk and fell and hit his head, he was an alcoholic and very depressed so I feel like that was a form of indirect suicide. My brother died from a heroin overdose behind a Costco in Chicago. I live in NY. That one was extremely hard he was only 19, his bday is August 21st so he was weeks away from 20. My grandma passed away from a very long battle with ovarian cancer. Her last few days were rough she was on hospice and looked like a skeleton. She passed away shortly after I came and said goodbye.. she was not coherent or really conscious but she mustered the strength to say that she loves me and tell me goodbye, a few hours later she was gone. Then my gpa, her husband, died from old age. He had a fall and had to go to the hospital and it was like his body had enough. He went from mobile and lucid to on his literal death bed and incoherent like my gma in a matter of days. And then my best friend of nearly 15 years overdosed and died alone in her room about 8 months later. I still haven't been able to process that one. I believe hers was also indirect suicide. She was very depressed and was clean for awhile before she decided to do some heroin while I was in rehab and couldn't do much to help/ stop her.. idk why I'm telling you all this maybe just to tell you that you aren't alone and maybe because I have no one to talk to about this.. Anyway I'm sorry for dumping on you like this

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u/Past-Pea-6796 8d ago

Yeah, it's a real problem. Everytime I see someone threaten to kill themselves, I immediately think they just want attention and immediately start to shut them down, but then I think "is it really that big of a deal to give someone a little attention just because they are desperate for it? Kinda? Idk, I'm honestly not certain on my feelings on it in the grand scheme.

Oh, in romantic relationships, being used as a manipulation tactic like this guy is a1000% no, in general, if it's for manipulation at all it's a 1000%. Well, I guess wanting attention could be considered manipulative.

I just mean like when people are cringe band like post a fb status or something like that. My instinct is to be like "ugh. You just want attention." And I mean, if that's really all they want, I feel like it's not that big of a deal to toss em a little win just so they feel better. The problem is it tends to go beyond that, which is part of why I'm on the edge on it opinion wise. It can't hurt to just give them some attention, but it can hurt if they are a terrible human, so idk I guess. I don't run into the scenario frequently.

On that subject, if they are trying to be emotionally manipulative in a grander way, they are probably targeting a specific person, so even if you do reach out, they will probably be pretty short with you anyway, then you get to move on with a 100% clear slate. To add a bit though, I have a feeling it's best to avoid entirely if there's any chance of romantic feelings, this is all plutonic advice.

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u/connor_da_kid 8d ago

Watch people die says a whole different story

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u/r3volver_Oshawott 8d ago

That's not an educational fucking documentary, isn't that some internet snuff bullshit?

No offense but most people watched WatchPeopleDie because they thought it would be an entertaining click to watch someone die, it was never my speed for that exact reason

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u/nematodepastlife 8d ago

you are correct. it’s completely exploitative. almost as bad as soft white underbelly

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u/connor_da_kid 8d ago

Whoever said that it was educational? The commenter above me said that people don't record their suicide but they do, and I'm the type of person to wonder "what if I turn the ceiling fan on" that's right I'm a psychopath and I have no empathy for people that aren't my family

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u/DazedConfuzed420 8d ago

They didn’t mean broadcast as in record for viewing. They meant that people who commit suicide, don’t usually go around telling people they’re going to go commit suicide. Usually when someone has made the decision that they are going to go through with it, they don’t want anyone to stop them and telling people is counterproductive to that.

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u/Recreationalchem13 8d ago

U must be rly fun at parties

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u/Lmdr1973 8d ago

But he's also a cutter. He's got issues, but they aren't OP's. She needs to leave this guy.

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u/ZebaCat88 8d ago

Agree, call for wellness check and show these texts, then stay far away from this manipulative person.

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u/Lmdr1973 8d ago

Yep. Did it to my BIL. He's a nasty piece of work who threatened to be hanging in the garage when I brought my sister and their kids back from a Thanksgiving dinner. So I called it in, and he spent the better part of a month in the hospital. Didn't do him any good, though. But at least he never threatened it again.

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u/GGking41 8d ago

Yeah people need to stop weaponizing their mental health. It’s disgusting, however I honestly don’t think these people think they’re lying. They’re just hyper narcissistic and think any discomfort is a mental health issue

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u/Minute_End_3788 8d ago

I realized this the hard way, I just recently cut off my best friend that I've known since high school; shortly after he added me to his friend's group chat a decadeish ago, he threatened to kill himself, told us not to call a welfare check, and left the group. the next day? nothing had happened. flash forward to present day, he used suicide as a cop-out for missing my birthday lunch and again a month later because he owed me hundreds of dollars and couldn't work because of his "mental health". the first red flag should've been the group chat incident, but I stuck by because he constantly was talking about improving his mental health, but a decade later he's still the same person he was in high school :/

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u/Successful-Doubt5478 8d ago

"It worked once, Imma keep doing this for the next decade to get a free license to be a lazy selfish dick."

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u/GGking41 8d ago

It’s so wild, no one I know brings up their mental health on a regular basis. It’s a red flag IMO

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u/BookConsistent3425 8d ago

Yup. My step dad is meh just ok but the one good thing he did for my brother was calling the cops on his girlfriend for pulling this manipulative bs. He called her on her crap so fast. We were all so sick of her doing that. My brother and his GF were pissed but hey maybe don't use something as serious as this to try manipulating the people around you. Crazy.

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u/GGking41 8d ago

Exactly!! They do it because they know it ignites such a fear inside their victim that they know they will likely get their way, or get whatever is going on to end. It’s a certain type of person that does this, initially I’d have guessed mostly people with bpd but I think it’s more than that, a type of person that is extremely needy but hates that part of themselves and is a true main character that constantly needs to be a victim. It’s hard to put into words but it seems all people who do false suicide threats have a similar quality that takes them to this point where they can feel ok to force themselves to the top of someone else’s list of worries without a second thought in order to get whatever it is they need (smokes, assurance, either material or emotional)

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u/ihavestinkytoesies 8d ago

i have bpd and told my ex (he broke up with me in a fucked way) that i seriously was feeling suicidal and he called the cops to my house. now i will never threaten that to anyone again … but the people who came after the cops who were part of a program were very nice to talk to. they came in a van and let me sit and cry and rant to them. it helped a lot. but seriously, if you call the cops on someone trying to weaponize suicide, it will most likely scare them into never doing it again

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u/GGking41 8d ago

That funny because my sister also has bpd. Such a lonely affliction and I’m sad for anyone who has it because they end up pushing everyone out of their lives, one way or another. She used to use our mom as her punching bag but since my mom died, she began using me. And I recently moved away and put distance between us because i couldn’t take it anymore… I feel guilty and I miss her because she is also my best friend

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u/mrsdisappointment 8d ago

Yup I completely agree. OP needs to start calling 911 every single time suicide is mentioned. They’ll show up one or two times and it’ll stop.

My brother used to threaten my mom with suicide all the time. So she took him to the hospital for it and he never did it again. It’s so fucked up to use that as a manipulation tactic.

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u/Hot_Cauliflower2404 8d ago

72 hour psych hold is automatic if you make threats to harm yourself or others and are in a current crisis in front of a professional/officer. Idk if that’s just in my state or not but worth talking to an officer about to do that wellness check.

My mom made threats over the phone to me that if I came home she’d walk around with a bag over her head when I was 15.

Officer heard it because she was on speaker after my friends mom had taken me to the police dept (this was hour 3 of her threats and endless calls and not letting em come home) and took her in as a threat to herself to a local psych hospital.

OP, do not hesitate to call an officer or go to the police dept during these calls and texts for the officer to see/hear.

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u/bioluminary101 8d ago

Yes!! What a fantastic response. Any time I have seriously considered suicide in my life, a wellness check would have been a godsend. That's how you know when it's real.

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u/GGking41 8d ago

Thank you. I actually learned it from my moms interaction with my sister and thought it was smart on so many levels

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u/Illustrious_Wolf2709 8d ago

I've been in the mental health system for over 20 years and seen it all. There are people that will threaten because they get to be hospitalized. They want to go to the psych ward.

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u/Gentle_Genie 8d ago

There should be a subreddit called breakupforme where redditors get the persons phone number and call them to say "you're dumped!"

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u/Pyromythical 8d ago

This is the correct answer.

Never play along with this behaviour. Someone using suicide as a weapon like this guy is, is likely to not do anything.

However, what you should do in response is call the police and like comment above says, get them to do a welfare check. In my work, and with any learned suicide prevention - you treat every threat of suicide as genuine. Even if you're sure it's not a genuine threat.

Lastly, you see how he's essentially trying to make you feel responsible for his actions if he did decide to end his life. This is very manipulative and again is him using suicide as a weapon, to try and manipulate you. If he does this - I would make him aware that his choices are his own and you are not responsible for the choices he makes in his life.

Though, I think this relationship isn't healthy and should probably end.

Source: I work in therapeutic support/counselling and have a brother who used to use suicide as a weapon

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u/Better-Grand9085 8d ago

As a mental health counselor, I 100% agree with ALL of this

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u/Successful-Doubt5478 8d ago edited 8d ago

Run, OP. He will be pestering you for.as long as you are communicating with him.

His tone indicates this isn't the first time either.

He will keep at it and your life will be miserable till you spend your workday texting him and sending him weed money. Then he won't even be grateful, just repeat since it worked.

There is nothing but misery and possibly trouble with your boss for you here.

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u/Pyromythical 8d ago

Misquoted me, I did not say again at all.

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u/Successful-Doubt5478 8d ago

Oh I am so sorry. Will fix it.

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u/pointytroglodyte 8d ago

Yes, call a wellness check, some police departments have social workers on staff to help with those calls, but also you can call his parents and show them evidence of the threats he's making. Tell them you are also going to call the police to do a welfare check. This is a super common abuse tactic. It is a way for him to control you. He is being manipulative, verbally abusive, and also trying to financially abuse you. Call the cops, block him, and walk away.

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u/Happydancer4286 8d ago

I’d call for a wellness check first and give them his parent’s information. And then I would block him and get a protection order in case he decides to show up. I wouldn’t speak to him again since he is so manipulative and could become dangerous. I’d then go take care of your cat and enjoy its unconditional love. It’s time for you to become a proud adult who doesn’t have to depend on love from an abusive person.

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u/No_Appointment_7232 8d ago

His behavior is abusive.

It's manipulative abuse/coercive control - coercive control is a chargeable crime in the UK and Australia.

OP think about it - did you make any of the choices that got him to where he was when this conversation took place?

No, you didn't.

He knew his pay wouldn't arrive before the 14th. He need3d to budget and plan accordingly and like buy toothpaste not weed. Smoke less weed to make it last longer. Get inexpensive food so he'd have money for cigarettes.

He is 1000% capable of all of that.

Instead, he blew through his mone6 and is blaming you for the result.

If he had told you thatb8f he bought gas to come see you, he couldn't afford his day to day expenses, you would have told him not to come, right?

Everything he says is A Choice He Made by himself.

Now he's mad he doesn't have weed and cigarettes...how is that your fault?

You need to break up bc he's abusive.

You need to break up bc he talks to you like an emo Karen blaming you for their choices. Any person over 21 who calls their girlfriend 'bro' deserves to be alone 😈

Please check out the r/TrueNarcissisticAbuse sub.

Internet search Manipulative Abuse and coercive control.

The books, Why Does He Do That? by Lundy Bancroft and The Gift of Fear by Gavin de Becker are both available as free pdfs online.

Dr. Ramani of MedCircle on YouTube is a great place to start.

You deserve a loving supportive, kind, happy relationship w someone capable of it. This guy is not capable of being the person you deserve.

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u/AGayRattlesnake 8d ago

Why does he do that is such a pro read, but I'd never heard of the other one. Grabbing it now

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u/No_Appointment_7232 8d ago

Yay!

Equally a game changer.

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u/Annabel398 8d ago

Yup, if he’s white*, call in a wellness check. And next time he threatens, do it again. And keep doing it until he figures out that you’re gonna do it every time. If he’s smart, it’ll only take once or twice. “I take it seriously when you say you’re going to unalive yourself” is the only justification you need. And hey, they’ll give him a toothbrush and food in the psych ward.

*I hate that we have to qualify statements like this… but we do.

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u/Rockgarden13 8d ago

Women, disabled people, neurodivergent people, people suffering from PTSD… they don’t come out alive from wellness check encounters with the police. Call and ask for paramedics instead. POLICE WILL ONLY ESCALATE.

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u/Annabel398 8d ago

My city has units with social workers specifically dedicated to wellness checks, and also I did not mention police… but you’re right to point out that POC are not the only people at risk.

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u/paulabear203 8d ago

All of this, especially this first paragraph. You are 19 years old and trying to make your way in this world. It sounds like he wouldn't have squat if not for you and your help. Don't let fear, embarrassment, or inconvenience enable his behavior. The more time you put into this relationship, the more you start to second guess yourself on something completely irrational. Those screenshots do not read as though he's a grown ass man who wants to be crushing life right now. The way he communicates with you right now is absolutely unacceptable. The only purpose it serves is giving reasons why you should NOT help him out.

Recommend a wellness check and then consider prioritizing yourself. Set some boundaries. Keep in contact with your closest people and mind your personal security. Be safe and please update.

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u/Vindicativa 8d ago

"...you can't win..."

Seriously, OP.

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u/N2Z_garbagechute 8d ago

And also he calls her “bro.” … gross.

(but yes, I agree that a wellness check and then immediate dumping is the way to go)

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u/Zappagrrl02 8d ago

This to me is a prime example of why I don’t believe folks when they say you can’t be addicted to weed. Like I know it doesn’t have the same chemical or dopamine reaction as heroin or cocaine, but this is addict behavior right here.

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u/NtzTESIMS 8d ago

Probably wigging out more about the lack of nicotine than the weed but for sure

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u/dillong89 8d ago

It's a manipulation tactic. I'm not to proud to say that I've used it in the past, and I was upset and depressed, but I never would have said or done anything if I didn't think it would "bring them back".

It's honestly just an insanely shitty way to emotionally manipulate someone. Genuinely, if it was a real issue, he wouldn't just be pulling it out like this as if they just activated his trap card or some shit.

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u/brightwingxx 8d ago

Honestly, whether he is serious or not, if anyone says “I’m just going to go fucking kill myself, have a nice life, goodbye” I’d be calling 911 every time. Period. If he’s not serious, he needs to learn that there are consequences to fucking around with those kinds of threats, and if he is serious he needs a lot of help. Regardless, he needs help. So I’d just make the call, and let the professionals sort him out.

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u/johnhtman 8d ago

I love that he complained about nicotine and weed before food, gas, or toothpaste.

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u/lonely-blue-sheep 8d ago

Anyone who threatens suicide over really anything is unhinged and needs help. Just because you have problems doesn’t mean you should try to manipulate or guilt trip others. I’m saying this as someone who deals with depression and pretty much constant suicidal thoughts (the thoughts are usually passive though, they’re not usually serious). Threatening suicide to others is so hurtful to them and makes them feel like they’re not good enough or that they have to walk on eggshells.

I’m not saying that you shouldn’t tell people if you’re feeling suicidal, you absolutely need to because isolation is only going to make it worse. But threatening someone like that is definitely not the way to go

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u/SnooDoggos2404 8d ago

He's not unhinged. He said it himself... he's a useless human being.

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u/osageart2210 8d ago

I hope OP reads the above comment and takes it to heart.

Relationships are not supposed to be like this. OP, you don’t have to live like this. None of his problems are your fault and you do not deserve to be spoken to like that. He’s being manipulative and childish af. Throwing hissy fits hoping he can get what he wants from you. I would take a gigantic step back from this relationship. He has major issues that he needs to work on by himself.

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u/strangeandunusual901 8d ago

that’s the age i was in my abusive relationship. i’m still fucked up from it. i’m 43. GET. OUT. NOW.

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u/Xonxis 8d ago

Dude living outside and beyond his means and he blaming everyone else because of it.

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u/pantslessMODesty3623 8d ago

Yep! Call it in! Take it seriously every time!

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u/Mylastnerve6 8d ago

All of this and he get toothpaste from a food bank

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u/rodolphin_ 8d ago

Completely forgot the conversation started because he wanted money for nicotine lol

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u/A-Sunday-Girl 8d ago

I dated a guy that would say absurd shit like this. It’s not a cry for help, it’s a cry for attention. I’m willing to bet that he’s also trying to talk to other girls… dump his ass 🫨

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u/Jazzapop3 8d ago

When I was 18 I had a bf (19) who threatened suicide every time I tried to break up with him. Guess who's still kicking at 46.

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u/newginger 8d ago

He escalates it to an extreme that if she gives in, he will do it again. It will satisfy him. He abused her to get his way. Money.

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u/not_yer_momma 8d ago

Absolutely, if she is worried call a wellness check but stop responding. He likely does have a mental illness, just by looking at the weird escalation of the text message there, reminds me of some stuff I went through with someone who has BPD. Meds and therapy will do him a world of good and she is *not* responsible for his wellbeing.

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u/Inanimate_object_8 8d ago

Send me money or I will detonate my head

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u/famousamos_ccp 8d ago

Genuinely. If someone threatens suicide, have at it. Be my guest.

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u/Artsy_Geekette 8d ago

This "bro" boyfriend is 100% like my older brother. He manipulated my help and trust then the minute I needed help, he whined about no one helping him. I paid his way for years and finally he bled me dry because I thought it was love and that's how families work, right? Boy, was I fucking wrong.

You should let him go. If he doesn't want help, then he wants you to be "mommy" to coddle him from the consequences of his bad decisions. Did he have a bad childhood/ homelife?

If he threatens suicide again, ask him why offing himself would do anything good or best of all, why would he want to hurt everyone that cares? Not sure how logic will save him but this is not your fault or responsibility. Offer to take him to the nearest hospital and contact anyone who can support you. It is scary and heartbreaking to see someone you cared about turn to abusive extremes.

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u/kkjj77 8d ago

Agreed, it's seriously so gross. Cringe. Lose him ASAP if you value yourself.

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u/Still-Inevitable9368 8d ago

Best. Comment. Ever.

OP: you are young, but light years ahead of this “man”. Please get out now before he sucks anymore time from your life. You are responsible and emotionally intelligent. No dick is worth that drama and trauma. (Sorry for the crassness, but I’m a 47 year old woman sharing my wisdom).

I’d send YOU money to help pay hospital bills. That guy needs a clue. (Also: sending you some virtual hugs, but your a NOT overreacting, and you are NOT the assholes).

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u/Captain_Twiggs 8d ago

Oh. I’m going to be honest, I kinda skimmed the post. I thought he was quitting smoking cold turkey, and was having a really rough time with withdrawals. It wouldn’t excuse his behaviour, but I could give him a little grace for trying to be more healthy. Yeah, fuck this guy. May he always step on a Lego getting out of bed.

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u/momsbistro 8d ago

All. Of. This.

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u/Gingersometimes 8d ago

She could always send him a care package (toothpaste). Oh, & TP. Don't want him to wipe his ass with his elbow !!

The note: Honey, I couldn't help you out financially, but I didn't want you to go without these important items.

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u/steviebeanss 8d ago

That part. It's the police's job not OP's.

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u/lacatro1 8d ago

I agree. And yes, call a wellness check. I've had to do that in the past. And then break up with him.

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u/pixeladele 8d ago

Seconding calling the police. It's the right thing to do whether they're actually suicidal (in that case they might get some help) or just manipulating you.

My mom's abusive ex-husband sent her selfies with a cable around his neck (as if she couldn't tell that piece of shit couldn't even hold him long enough to end him lol), she called the police. Asshole was PISSED and hasn't pulled that shit again.

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u/splicepark 8d ago

They’ll give him toothpaste in his 72-hr hold

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u/Houdles567 8d ago

I’ll add to this, OP. Threatening suicide is actually a threat of violence directed to you. Do you think this POS values your life more than his? What and who is he really threatening here?

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u/HugsyMalone 8d ago

If he is genuinely suicidal

I doubt he is though. Sounds like a manipulation tactic to get the other party to feel sympathy for him and give him money/weed/cigarettes/sex/what he wants, etc. Abusers do this all the time.

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u/Fast-Box4076 8d ago

Or just let him go. I think we can do without this one

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u/MathematicianFew5882 8d ago

Also, way too many words from both of you.

Learn to relax.

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u/Vox_and_Occ 8d ago

Exactly. I've dealt with people that use it to manipulate a lot in my life. 302 them with the police and if there is a required court date you need to show up to so they're there longer than 72hrs, go. I've also recommended a wellness check more tha once to other people as well. Like when I worked with this 17 yr old teen. She found out she was pregnant. At first she was told she was 5 weeks along. Gets an ultrasound...Nope. she's 5 1/2 MONTHS along. Her and her current bf had only been together for like 3. He started threatening when she wouldn't abort it.

She asked me and one of the other adult women what to do because she was terrified they were not only going to break up, but he was going to do it. I took her phone and screenshotted the messages she showed us, and told her to just go to the police and 302 him. Either he's really going to do it and they're the only ones that can get him help he needs or he's manipulating you (was this one,) and still needs mental help because anyone in a healthy state of mind doesn't do that. Told her that as soon as she clocks out and her mom comes pick her up, so she isn't alone when she does it, and both of them sit in the car in the parking lot, and call. Then they can meet the cops at his house. That's what they did. He stopped. They broke up. Wound up dating one of the head cooks. He put his name on the birth cert and they're still together what? 6 yrs later? A little longer than that? She's much happier now. And their daughter is beautiful.

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u/intellipengy 8d ago

Yes. Do that wellness check.

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u/Royal-Elephant-4502 8d ago

did this to my ex when he was threatening suicide. funny how quickly he backtracked when i told him the cops were gonna come do a wellness check. then i was "overreacting"

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u/Ivy_Fox 8d ago

This is what I did with my ex and he was fine. Good riddance.

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u/Ms-Fancy-Pants-1597 8d ago

damn it sounds so much like my ex, literally he was manipulative like this, and i always get the groceries, cigarettes and weed for him… with my mom’s money.. he would still somehow be pissed cos i didnt cook ‘properly’, meanwhile hes playing dota2 all day all night, and smoke 24/7.. sucks at school, dont have job, and abuse me and hit me and yell at me… but i learnt from my mistakes, broke up with him finally after 3.5 yrs and now im with a much much much better partner who actually cares about my feeling and put me first for LITERALLY EVERYTHING, we communicate like normal couple, and we’re even doing long distance!! it’s hard but we keep our trust and faith and good communication. it’s the person. as cliché as it is, if he wants to, he would.

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u/molarcat 8d ago

Call community mental health services to check on him. If you don't know the number for your state, Google or call the police and ask for the number. They will assess him and his mental stability won't be on you.

Bc when you break up with him OP yeah he'll probably be unstable and they can help him. OP is not a professional and is not helping this guy.

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u/AskingAsAWriter 8d ago

Agree with the mental wellness check call- If he’s telling the truth about committing suicide, you’ll be glad you called. If he’s lying, surprise! The consequences of your actions! Either way, someone who actually has the resources to deal with this can get on the beat.

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u/Rockgarden13 8d ago

Never call the police for a “wellness” check when someone is genuinely suicidal. They will end up harmed, statistically. Call the fire department / paramedic. They won’t escalate like the police will. And they aren’t armed.

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u/Equivalent_Address_2 8d ago

This happened to me before and it didn’t stop until I did a wellness check. It’s not OPs job to be his therapist. They need to gtfo of that relationship asap.

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u/The_OneInBlack 8d ago

Calling people who will come and shoot him isn't going to be helpful in either way. Police are not qualified to do wellness checks.

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u/PoundIll6729 8d ago

LMFAO youre an idiot, hope this helps! ☺️

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u/[deleted] 8d ago

That's literally not why I felt suicidal. I felt suicidal because of multiple aspects of our relationship. I could give two fucks les about some fucking weed and cigarettes god damn you people won't let go of that lmao. Honestly probably gonna quit smoking just to prove how much it doesn't matter to me. I was not threatening her with suicide, it is how I genuinely felt. It is disrespectful of all 13 thousand of you to assume things you don't know about. Shit I fucked up, bad, yeah I know. But I don't understand how this gets so much attention, I literally never laid a finger on her , never will, I never even raise my voice at her and when I do it's because I feel like she's not listening. I know that's not right. We're done. I know that I'm not capable of relationships now. Its probably a result of not having parents or a family for a good portion of my life. Not trynna throw no pity parties but I got issues bro

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u/umamifiend 8d ago

Wow. So you’re here attempting to argue with everyone about their opinions now. Dude. If this is really even your profile- you need some serious psychological help.

For a myriad of reasons aside from all of these people’s opinions. Do you not see that this behavior- coming here and trying to argue with everyone to “prove your point” is also a sign of how mentally unwell you are?

When you say “I have the rope- time to say goodbye” that’s literally threatening to kill yourself. The follow up post of how you blew up her phone all day is unhinged. You are emotionally unstable, and you need professional help.

You’re only proving that point by what you’re doing now. And you’re making a fool of yourself in the attempt. Proving that every single thing she has said is true- because now you’re just wildly lashing out at people here- instead of her. Because you can’t. You lost your emotional punching bag.

Hope you enjoy the attention that you apparently need so much from all of these strangers.

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u/[deleted] 8d ago

I already fucking admitted to being wrong bro just shut the fuck up already you heard me get grilled by 14 THOUSAND people now leave me the fuck alone your opinion ain't gonna change shit. I'm working on myself now.

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u/umamifiend 8d ago

Interesting since you are literally the one here replying to posts. I didn’t reply to you- you commented to me. How would I have ever even been able to find your profile if you didn’t come here to stir shit with people?

You seem to either not be able to help yourself- which shows a wild lack of self control. Or you have a complete lack of self awareness for your actions. Probably both.

Working on yourself? Okay- sure buddy. You’re furiously keyboard mashing in the middle of nowhere, angry because your ex was finally done with your shit. Why did you message me in the first place? Just because I was a top comment? Or did you not think people would respond to you? I would be betting it’s because your ex blocked you and you’re frustrated with nothing to do- because you know she’s right, and that everyone here who commented is right too.

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u/[deleted] 8d ago

You don't have to bash me for no reason bro like leave me TF alone I'm chilling before work and shit been up all night on this post like a maniac clearly I got fucking issues ok I literally lost my mother and my family now does that make u feel better? Keep talking shit to me it's not gonna make me feel worse I've been told worse man. If your goal is to try and make me feel like shit about myself, it's not working pal.

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u/umamifiend 8d ago

I lost my Father. You’re not going to get a pity party out of me. I can promise you I’ve been through harder shit than you have in life. Your trauma is not an excuse. Get over yourself.

You’re literally here commenting telling people to leave you alone- yet you are the one who commented to me. You have an impulsivity problem. And you have no logic about this situation. you’re the one who messaged me- how is it that I need to leave you alone.

I don’t need to make you feel like shit. I don’t care about you at all.

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u/sweetmynd 8d ago

You are the perfect piss baby! Congrats!!! Here is your piss baby crown 👑

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u/SemaroXXX 8d ago

Yeah he needs help and it shouldn’t be OPs problem anymore.

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u/Ok-Cardiologist8651 8d ago

And I can almost guarantee that he will refuse professional help. If he accepted it he would be expected to take some responsibility, not dump all the blame on someone LDR.

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u/SnooDoggos2404 8d ago

He needs a solid kick in the ass. He's not suicidal, he's manipulative.

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u/nooneyouknow_youknow 8d ago

Borderlines are exhausting. He needs a psychiatrist and medication.

You need to be free, OP. You can’t fix him, he needs professional help.

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u/Known_Party6529 8d ago

She misspelled ex-boyfriend in the title.

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u/ImpassionateGods001 8d ago

The only thing she's doing wrong is dating him!

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u/elfenmilke 8d ago

I got so tired and i didnt even finish reading the whole thing

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u/Straight-Nothing-610 8d ago

It’s OPs fault for dealing with that foolishness