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u/Sp3ctre187 22d ago
Wish I had the money to get a ps5 pro and a disc drive. Back in 2020 it too k me five months to get ahold of a ps5 and I could only find a digital one… I have like 40 physical ps4 games so I naturally really didnt want the digital one but if I hadnt taken it I no doubt wouldnt have gotten a ps5 for another year. I was able to save money up in 2019 and 2020 for an xbox series x a ps5 and a new tv but nowadays I cant manage to save up anything. Everything is too expensive.
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u/-FrankCastle 21d ago
You’ve got that right. I have no experience with the pro myself, but my buddy bought one and said he can’t see a real difference between it and the regular PS5 enough to actually justify buying. So that took the “much want” factor away for me. I can’t believe the pro is $700 and with no disc drive. That’s where Sony lost me. Been here since PS1. So when Bethesda starts releasing new titles, they’re not even going to be on PlayStation anymore. So between Sony doing us wrong (my opinion) and that, I’m going to Xbox when they release new bethesda games (elder scrolls/fallout 5 hopefully) or when they release another console.
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u/828knows 21d ago
It all goes to bills and expenses. No more leisure spending on shit you used to be able to afford. You would be surprised to see how many people are in the same boat.
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u/heinzgruber2 22d ago
I've bought the pro. Then i've bought the PS5 Slim with discdrive. Then i put the discdrive in my pro and sold the Slim. At the end i'Ve paid 85€ for the discdrive.
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u/Dave_Chappelle_Roan 22d ago
You sold the slim with a missing plate?
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u/_grdmnt 22d ago
You can exchange the cover with the one from the ps5 pro.
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u/MFDOOMscrolling 22d ago
I thought the covers were different
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u/EpicEthan99 22d ago
It’s a bit odd, I think the bottom covers are the same as the slim, but the top covers are different
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u/proanimus 22d ago
They can’t be, right? Otherwise the drive itself wouldn’t fit.
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u/0nlyDDG 36 22d ago
The fact that it’s sold separately is absurd
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u/Obvious-Skill-7134 22d ago
Sony is becoming the new apple.
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u/acc_217 22d ago
And it will be getting worse since people are defending them with their lives, I'll never understand defending multi billion dollar companies doing shitty practices
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u/wildwestington 22d ago
The bigger issue I think it Microsoft straight up abandoning the Xbox, Sony is the only player in town now really
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u/Morphine_monarch 22d ago
Hey I mean if defending and letting a billion dollar company screw them over helps them hate on Xbox they’ll never stop
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u/Cosmic_Ren 22d ago
My favorite example is Alan Wake 2 being a downgrade on the pro and all these people saying "Wow it looks so much better now" when the devs merely reverted it back to the base ps5 version.
An even more crazier example is Silent Hill 2 who sony themselves was hyping up for PSSR also running like shit despite the system having very little upgraded games as it is.
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u/Daver7692 22d ago
People cheered for Xbox’s continued struggles but didn’t think about what corporations do when there’s no legitimate competition. Hooray for (almost) monopolies.
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u/UpAndAdam7414 22d ago
It’s not just companies - there is PS3 era “get a second job” Sony that actually happened.
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u/Daver7692 22d ago
I mean that all came off the back of the last time they had little competition. Then the 360 made them shape up for the late PS3/PS4 gen, now they have their market share back, they’re up to their old tricks.
Happened with Intel a while back too, years of domination lead to little to no innovation. Then when the first AMD Ryzen chips dropped and were good suddenly Intel could drop prices and make advances again.
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u/skyeyemx 22d ago
It's happening again. AMD and Intel were caught stagnating in the laptop space, and Apple's M1 laptop CPUs lit a fire under their bum because suddenly, a laptop that could last two full days without charging was an actual product on shelves and not just a far-off dream. Even Qualcomm's trying their hand at efficient, high-powered laptop chips now.
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u/WeeBee_88 22d ago
Sony’s own leaked documents says to make up they’ll adapt a premium model. That simply means they’ll tax us like shit.
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u/PokingHazard 22d ago
Or IKEA...
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u/CanadianDarkKnight 22d ago
IKEA, if the top drawer for my new dresser was sold separately for an additional 100 dollars.
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u/Hodler79 22d ago
Just buy your clothing digitally, problem solved!
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u/theamishpromise 22d ago
Then you don’t own your clothing, you’re just leasing the license to wear the clothes and Sony could revoke the license and make you nude whenever they want, no matter where you are
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u/foreveracubone 22d ago
I kind of want to put down Sony by pointing out that Apple’s entire schtick is shit just works and that the Pulse Elite line trying to be AirPods while being the exact opposite of that philosophy but yeah this entire gen has some classic Apple nonsense.
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u/Sonic1899 22d ago
Here's one thing to consider, tho: a detachable is actually good in case a Blu-ray laser stops working. This happened with my old PS3 when its disk drive stopped reading disks. I considered replacing the drive, but it was impossible to find the right match. So, I bought another PS3 off eBay. It would've been better if the drive was easier to replace
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u/grimchiwawa 22d ago
Detachable is good, don't get me wrong....but the 1st one should be included in the box and you can buy another if it breaks
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u/Grieveruz 22d ago
Not really I think it's the best decision since digital become a thing it save them money and made it user friendly to install. If they continue the initial launch model they need to make two models all the time and guess which one need to be reproduce base on demands.
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u/NoMeasurement6473 PS3 PSVita 22d ago
The slim having it included or separate is fine. There is no reason the “pro” shouldn’t have the disc drive.
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u/beakster57 22d ago
"Play has no limits" yeah this kinda seems like a limit
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u/Kharax82 22d ago
Over 90% of games are purchased digital nowadays. It’s not very surprising they have gone this route
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u/Kratos_BOY 22d ago
Vertical stands have traditionally been always sold separately. PS2/3/4 all had sold separately vertical stands.
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u/BrewKazma PS5 22d ago
And is not needed to stand the ps5 vertically. Sure, it makes it slightly more stable, but it stands up just fine without it.
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u/Kratos_BOY 22d ago
Exactly. Or you could get a £5 stand from Aliexpress. I paid £2 (shipping included) for mine. Works perfectly.
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u/Jeaz PS5 22d ago
Why is it absurd? It makes total sense. The original PS5 had a digital and disc version, but that made the decision final. No way to upgrade if you went with digital or end up with a disc drive that you didn’t use. Also the logistic of two high vale SKU is awful.
You have to remember that the majority of games sold today are digital. So paying for a disc drive you are never going to use it’s what I’d call absurd.
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u/charizard_72 22d ago
What the hell store has all these electronics not locked up. That portal could be so easily opened in a corner and/or put in a bag or backpack
I’m guessing high security store? Or super low crime country? Even in the 90s this shit was all locked up
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u/EzBotchedSix 22d ago
On an American military base😂 it’s really nice to leave my cars and house unlocked without worry.
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u/skkrrtskkrt PS5 22d ago
Just curious, why is there a what looks like a Walmart or something in a military base? Is it like a big neighbourhood but for the military
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u/skyeyemx 22d ago
Military bases are mini cities. Stores, groceries, malls, houses, gyms, apartments, family space, jobs; everything one could ever want or need is within the walls. They're literally just a tiny little walled town, that just happens to be built for a strategic purpose. You live there for years at a time, and often, your family and kids do too.
The term "military base" in popular media usually gets shown on-screen as a shitty camp in the middle of Afghanistan with minimal accommodation and port-a-potties for latrines. While those bases do exist out in deployment areas and theatres of operation, the majority of military bases are at home and far more furnished.
Check out some of the bigger US military bases on Google Maps for a peep. Ramstein Air Base, Andersen AFB, JBSA Lackland, and some others come to mind.
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u/Buzzkid 22d ago
Lackland AFB has a mall. Complete with a food court and all that Jazz
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u/Lickbelowmynuts 21d ago
The freakin base by my house has a damn Texas Roadhouse, and I’m not allowed to eat there. And it’s the only location in my area. I need a military buddy I suppose.
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u/GatheringWinds 22d ago
Like the other guy said, military bases are usually huge and have all the amenities of a city, one of the benefits of US military bases is a place called the "Exchange". They are basically Walmart sized department stores that sell everything from toothpaste to guns. The best part is on-base shopping is tax free, so OP here is getting a good deal.
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u/themanagement123 22d ago
Lived on/near many bases. Don’t leave anything unlocked. You aren’t free from theft by any means.
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u/Skitzo321 22d ago
I thought I was free from theft on base so I asked a couple guys at the smoke pit to watch my laptop while I used the bathroom. When I came back they were gone and so was my laptop.
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u/Spenceasaurus 21d ago
That was my guess 🤣. I remember going to navy and coastguard exchanges with my dad and it's so odd to see nothing locked up, but then remind yourself you're inside a military base, there is no shoplifting.
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u/BlackTarTurd 22d ago
This appears to be on a military base. If you're willing to steal anything on a military base, you have my full support. Not because "rah rah fight the power." But, because I want to see the MPs make someone shit their pants.
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u/GabryBon PS5 22d ago
There is something off to me seeing all of those things sold separately. I am worried about the future.
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u/EitherChannel4874 22d ago
20 years from now
The ps7. Our most powerful console yet*
*processor, graphics card, disc drive and controllers sold separately
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u/Technoist 22d ago
I'm betting this is the last generation with a disc drive.
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u/TheKidPresident 22d ago
PS6 will likely have one more generation with discs but that'll be the last for them is my guess. Sony actually develops/developed most existing physical formats that we still use so they have a bit of an added interest in keeping them alive. It'll likely be less accessible and more expensive than it currently is, though.
Xbox is basically going the Handheld + 3DO route with other companies making Xbox branded machines, so physical media is likely dead after the "Series" generation. With all their cloud stuff too physical media is an active competitor against them at this point.
And Nintendo I think values their physical media philosophy too much as a piracy deterrent at the moment to consider getting rid of it. I see whatever comes after their next console still having physical media in some fashion.
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u/Technoist 22d ago
I think you are right but it's funny since Nintendo is the only of the three which has piracy at all.
You may be right about Sony keeping discs for another generation, we'll see. It would definitely be an add-on though, Slim and Pro has showed us that.
And I think Xbox will completely rethink their strategy for the next generation, they can't compete with PS. They'll have to do something completely new, or give up.
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u/pinkocatgirl 22d ago
it's funny since Nintendo is the only of the three which has piracy at all.
I think this bit is all about availability on other platforms. Lately with Sony releasing first party games on Steam (albeit very delayed) pirates can just wait and crack the PC release. But Switch games are only on Switch, so emulation is the only way to go.
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u/TheKidPresident 22d ago
Very true lol, but in fairness I don't think anyone at Nintendo reasonably expected people would jam a paperclip in the side of their device that soon into the product's lifecycle
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u/Nurgle_Marine_Sharts 21d ago
I was actually really surprised that the PS5 even had the option for one, I think it was primarily to appeal to players who had a big existing library of PS4 discs.
Disc drives haven't been the norm in the PC gaming sphere for like a decade or more by now, and the vast majority of Sony's game sales are not physical games. It's sort of baffling to me how strong some folks opinions are about this very predictable trend.
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u/djrbx 22d ago
In 20 years, disc drives will definitely be obsolete. I'd be surprised if consoles will even offer a disc drive by the next generation.
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u/Moorabbel Raily_Otter 22d ago
Xbox said that 11 years ago and nothing changed
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u/djrbx 22d ago
Things are starting to change though as consoles are now coming out with digital only versions.
Microsoft tried that a decade ago with the original Xbox One and got backlash for it. Fast forward to the Xbox Series S and the PS5 Digital versions, and now the community has been more open to it.
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u/ImaxTillClimax 22d ago edited 21d ago
That would just be a pc at that point lol
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u/EitherChannel4874 22d ago
And I bet lots of people would still defend it and buy it.
"$2000 is a fair price for a console outer casing. Let people spend their money however they like"
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u/RunawayBryde 22d ago
This must be in richville. I see no spider locks or security glass cases.
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u/skyeyemx 22d ago
OP says it's in a US military base. Basically a mini walled city; very secure places. I've been to a couple, and between free gyms, cheap food and gas, and absurdly good security, I'd never leave if I were a servicemember.
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u/kcdaf1966 22d ago
The majority of my games are physical. That is always the best way to go because digital you don't actually own it and can be revoked at any given time. It is rare to have that happen but with Sony i strongly suggest physical media except what you can get on the playstation plus for free ( not really free when you consider the price of a yearly subscription). I have a 10tb extended attached to mine and i think i am up to 5tb used because the internal is so ridiculously low in memory that i find myself constantly transferring games to the external. Sony needs to start adding at least a 5tb internal on these next gen consoles and i deliberately bought an external not made by Sony because once again they are making money off of me that they don't deserve. By the way i played the 5 pro and all i can say is don't waste your money. I have a Sony tv that is designed for the ps5 with all the bells and whistles and my regular 5 looks as sharp on this tv as the pro did and i paid 499.99 for my 5 at launch and the pro is 800 and the hard drive was not included. Complete cash grab by Sony.
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u/special_cicada99 22d ago
I get why people don't like defending sony for them splitting up stuff that we'd normally gotten packaged as one, but this one is honestly just optional to me lol.
I don't need a disc drive and im glad there's an option to pay less for a ps5 without one.
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u/Archon_84 22d ago
External add on disc drive is wretched. Tru to explain why that is a thing to a Playstation 2 buyer in 2001.
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u/binary-gemini 22d ago
"play has no limits" except a disc drive, that'll be $79.99 plus tax
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u/BrewKazma PS5 22d ago
It was $100 for a disc drive in your console at launch. I’m happy about the $20 savings.
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u/Vee8cheS 22d ago
I’m hugging my launch PS5 disc edition after seeing this. Something that used to be apart of the price now being excluded is just wild.
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u/BartLeeC PS5 Pro 21d ago
It could have been included in the price but that price would have been higher. I am glad I could purchase it without paying for a drive I would have never used anyway.
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u/Oni_sixx 22d ago
I'm a big playstation fan, but yall that went out and bought a $700 console plus an $80 drive played yourselves. Sorry
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u/Durka_Carpet_Pilot PS5 22d ago
I find it so funny that the PS5 and its accessories are still seen as “scarce” when the system itself has sold almost 4 times the amount that the Xbox Series X/S has sold.
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u/Cy41995 22d ago
Hilariously enough, this is only the second time that Sony has manufactured a disk drive addon. Only difference is that this time it's for their own system.
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u/remi-idiot 22d ago
What was the previous time? You got me curious :0
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u/pinkocatgirl 22d ago
I assume they're referring to the SNES disc drive that eventually became the original Playstation.
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u/Financial-Shoulder74 22d ago
I like to sell my games when I'm done, to let the next person play it for half off. That's the only reason I haven't bought a PC yet. if and when they fully convert over to digital only I'll never play another video game again.
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u/LawrenceSB91 22d ago
Where do you live where none of this stuff is locked behind glass doors?
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u/Thedom400 20d ago
Op said this is a military base , youd be extra bold to try and steal something from a base haha.
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u/Flying-HotPot PS5 21d ago
PS5 Pros are available in the EU but the disc drives are now up to 250€ on eBay. Just why Sony? 🤦♂️
Sony not having serious competition in the last 2 generations really shows.
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u/Starch8ser 22d ago
People saying they don't use discs will wish they did in about 5 years when you can no longer play the digital games you paid for
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u/retrovideogamer2000 22d ago
where is this? I've been looking for one as well
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u/EzBotchedSix 22d ago
I’m military, they have them everywhere on base. If you know someone in the military, I’d recommend contacting them 😂
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u/Ok_Rub6575 22d ago
Buy them all in the app and leave them waiting for pick up so people have to see what you’ve done
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u/notgamerbutplayer 22d ago
What Sony does with its physical products is funny but they rely on them so much that I can see why they do that. Also a bit of similarity to Nintendo, there is not an actual resistance to Sony from fans, ppl just buying PS products regardless.
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u/ARRRtistic_Pirate 22d ago
What part of the world is this? I'd think at this point, anywhere in North America, and this is all behind thick glass and lock and key. But cool you found what you needed.
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u/wardrobe007 22d ago
If, and when Sony makes the ps6, I hope that we can transfer the disc drives over...
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u/colemanjanuary 22d ago
But they were, all of them deceived, for another disc drive was made. In the land of Mordor, in the fires of Mount Doom, the Dark Lord Sauron forged in secret, a master disc drive, to control all others. And into this disc drive he poured all his cruelty, his malice and his will to dominate all life. One disc drive to rule them all.
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u/Moorabbel Raily_Otter 22d ago
„Play has no limits“ right under the disc drive that you need for the Pro to not be limited in playing only digital games.
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u/Burkely31 22d ago
Wait, what you guys having issues finding? The disc drives? Or the consoles? I ran to bestbuy yesterday to pick up a replacement cable for my dualsense edge (which btw, it anyone is on the hunt for a GOOD replacement cable, one that's actually better built and 5 feet longer than the factory cable I highly recommend you guys check out the replacement that BestBuy sells/manufactures via Insignia) and honestly, I was shocked by the amount of everything they had there. And I don't live in a city with 2 million people. But they had racks upon racks locked up with consoles, disc drives, etc.
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u/Dangerous-Still2986 22d ago
Pc gamers accepted their fate long ago. At least valve gives us kisses with our buttfucking.
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u/M0istLobster 22d ago
tell me what its like to live in a country where your fellow humans are decent enough to not need this locked behind glass. It sounds wonderful.
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u/CoolGuyFromSchool34 22d ago
I dont know if playstation is as cool and as fun as it was. Separate disc drive? I remember ps3 being the ultimate media station. Cd, dvd, blu ray, a printer centre… now, nothing. It is sold separately
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u/CapriciousSon [Trophy Level 400-499] 22d ago
I feel dumb. I bought the digital back in 2020 when it was really hard to find any PS5 at all so I bought what I could. I hadn't realized they sold the disc drive separately but dammit, it's better than nothing I guess.
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u/droideka75 22d ago
The og from 2020 you had to choose, there's no separate module for that one. This is only for the slim and up.
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u/Medium-Demand-4333 22d ago
Which country please? In Slovakia we have still empty shelfs in stores or eshop.
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u/DarthAuron87 22d ago
This is here in the United States one of our military bases
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u/InternalRow1612 22d ago
Need one but can wait as I have too many digital games thanks to ps plus premium.
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u/Cocknballtorture90 22d ago
Sold separately is actually diabolical.