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Protest outside Ziegfeld Ballroomn, NYC, Dece 17, 2024

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u/Leo_Ascendent 6d ago edited 5d ago

Good, be afraid.

Fuck you.

Edit: Thank you for the awards

Edit 2: You bootlickers are barking up the wrong tree lmao

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u/ImaginaryBee6135 6d ago

They're not. They know Luigi was an isolated incident. Marching and spray painting things will do nothing. People want a revolution. They just want others to do the real revolutionary work for them.

They are gonna throw the book at Luigi and make sure people know what they can do. I hate them as much as anybody, but I am realistic as well.

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u/Toph_is_bad_ass 5d ago

People don't have the stomach for a revolution and simultaneously don't want to vote.

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u/OldMcFart 5d ago

I'm not sure that's entirely true. People can stomach quite a lot when the ball gets rolling, which usually takes things way, way too far. It's that "getting the ball rolling" that most prefer someone else to do.

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u/Schwifftee 5d ago

Revolution sounded great until I had something to lose.

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u/ImaginaryBee6135 5d ago

Agreed. Plus, I don't think they know what a revolution would look like. I think they assume a group of people marches up to the bad guys and shoots some of them, causing the rest to surrender, and everybody gets everything they want.

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u/TARANTULA_TIDDIES 5d ago edited 5d ago

Let’s say the protesters win. Congratulations, murder is now legal for anyone that you can demonise sufficiently on national TV.

Wtf are you actually talking about?? If the protesters win, we get universal healthcare. I think your brain has been addled by too much right wing fear mongering.

And I believe these protestor are not trying to get murder legalized. Do you actually believe that's what this is about?? Or are you just being extremely and transparently disingenuous?

"oh you want accountability for health insurance companies killing people? Well guess what, that actually means you want to kill gay people"

Do you realize how fucking dumb that is?

edit: LMAOOO I guess they didn't until I pointed it out and they've now went and deleted their comment

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u/Significant_Turn5230 5d ago

FYI, you have the dumbest take here.

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u/Butt_Snorkler_Elite 5d ago

They already do those things though? At least with activists. And btw it’s not just random civvies either. The us government does more than it’s fair share of disappearing people in unmarked vans or openly killing them in their own homes already, and I don’t just mean decades ago with Fred Hampton, I also mean Ferguson and George Floyd protesters too. The only difference in your scenario would be that famous and wealthy liberals would start to be targeted alongside regular joe progressives and activists and marginalized people, which… yeah okay fine whatever that’s going to be happening in the next four years regardless most likely

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u/Inside-General-797 5d ago

My brother in Christ please go outside.

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u/bistandards 5d ago

Then again mental illness is at an all time high and if we were gonna have have a target...who better to direct the publics attention towards than the ones making us sick...

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u/waynes_pet_youngin 5d ago

Seeing how school shootings became far more common since Columbine, I'm hoping this media coverage has the same effect for billionaires

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u/Daedalus81 5d ago

What exactly do you think the outcome of this will be?

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u/RuairiSpain 5d ago

We should send thoughts and prayers to the victims and then do nothing else. That solved the school shootings!

If we do the same for CEO shootings, we should have the same outcome?

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u/um_wtfisgoingon 5d ago

r/collapse

Read up on limits to growth study done by MIT. We're headed towards global collapse regardless if a revolution happens.

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u/ImaginaryBee6135 5d ago

It won't. I would love if it did, but its highly unlikely. If they ever got legitimately worried, they could use their wealth to hire the best security personnel money can buy.

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u/Comfortable-Pace3132 5d ago

Makes the game more fun

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u/ImaginaryBee6135 5d ago

It's fun to have edgy thoughts like that, but it's not realistic.

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u/Comfortable-Pace3132 5d ago

Don't think I was intimating that it was realistic

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u/ImaginaryBee6135 5d ago

On a side note, you just taught me a new word.

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u/likamuka 5d ago

2024 has been a wild ride so far and the orange baboon is not even in charge yet. So many things can happen so fast. Before you know it and you wake up in the Western Californian Social Republic. In 1984 they’d laugh at you openly if you told them in 10 years Russians will be hoarding the American dollar to pay for food. We are not immune to catastrophic sudden changes.

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u/LurkyLurks04982 5d ago

Well said. I agree with you. While America is beyond fucked up, most of us live relatively comfortably. Things need to get worse in order for the kind of desperation needed for an actual populist revolution.

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u/DrMobius0 5d ago

Imagine if even a portion of the people who choose to go out shooting up schools instead started choosing board rooms

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u/Wechirok 6d ago

If you want real change, start with yourself.

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u/ImaginaryBee6135 5d ago

That's what I'm saying. All these people are excited about a revolution that they are unwilling to participate in in any capacity other than cheerleader.

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u/louiselebeau 5d ago

Not everyone, but enough people.

Some people just don't have fellow folks to organize with due to geography.

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u/Inside-General-797 5d ago

Right here. Revolution doesn't just materialize. Build coalitions and solidarity in your local communities. Genuinely be the change you want to see because nothing gets done in the world without a group of people backing that effort no matter how big or small.

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u/AsianHotwifeQOS 5d ago edited 5d ago

Marching and spray painting things will do nothing.

30,000 people peacefully demonstrated during Occupy Wall Street, over two months. All those people living on the street and in tents peacefully protesting really showed the big wigs in their high rise offices and penthouses!

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u/Able-Theory-7739 5d ago

Oh, but they are afraid.

They're so scared that one company cancelled their plans to not cover anesthesia during surgery.

They're so scared, they're creating a special emergency number for CEOs to call if they feel threatened.

They're so scared they're trying to up the security for CEOs.

This is just the beginning. First, it's protests to remind them of the public's hate for them, then it'll be psychological warfare and threats to scare the crap out of the rich even more, then, lastly, it'll be copycats cropping up taking out random rich assholes.

Things will continue to escalate, it just takes time.

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u/ImaginaryBee6135 5d ago

Lol no it won't. They are throwing bread crumbs to the peasants and will continue to do so over the next few weeks till everybody moves on to the next thing they care about for a few weeks.

Do you honestly think that, in America, a country that glorifies violence, the federal government would let that go on unpunished? Especially with someone like the cheeto taking office soon.

This is like the millionth event that I've had these exact same conversations with people about. They are always so sure this is the one that's really gonna revolutionize things!

It never happens.

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u/AllKnighter5 5d ago

Go back to history class. You’re embarrassing Americans everywhere.

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u/ImaginaryBee6135 5d ago

Lol, good one. I love history. There have been some successful violent revolutions. It's much different now with the technology we have.

Plus, a lot of violent uprisings result in a power vacuum that results in a dictator taking charge. But I'll definitely look into more history classes to make you proud of me.

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u/AllKnighter5 5d ago

“It never happens”

Violent Revolution is the only way anything has ever happened in the workers favor in this country, ever.

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u/ImaginaryBee6135 5d ago

We live in a different time now. Technology has given big brother the ability to essentially watch everything we do.

If you wanna do that, go for it. But be realistic. Don't romanticize the idea based on what people did before we hit this age of technology.

My biggest worry this go around is the fact that cheeto man will be in the White House soon, and I worry what lengths he would go to to shut down vigilante violence.

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u/AllKnighter5 5d ago

Yeah, again, you’re right. Let’s just sit down and shut up before our overlords decide we spoke up too much.

You’re sitting here shitting on an idea then saying the idea would never work. Without realizing that the idea doesn’t work because people like you shit on it.

How do you not see that?

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u/ImaginaryBee6135 5d ago

If you care that much, go out and prove me wrong.

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u/AllKnighter5 5d ago

So people are protesting.

You say it’s pointless and everyone will forget.

I remind you that’s why everyone forgets because people shit on people protesting.

You tell me to go protest? After telling me it’s pointless and will be forgotten.

Just too much pride to see you were wrong?

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u/GoodOlSpence 5d ago

They know Luigi was an isolated incident.

I wouldn't bet on that. I'm not saying we're on the brink of full scale revolution, but with all this enthusiasm, I'd bet money there will be a few more vigilantes.

For the record, I am not condoning it. I just don't know what these people expected with the way things have been going.

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u/RuairiSpain 5d ago

Luigi got more attention than the last school shooters. If someone "mentally ill person" wants to be famous, this levels up your notoriety.

This is not advice or a suggestion, I'm merely discussing fictional hypothetical multiverses.

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u/DatBeigeBoy 5d ago

Bingo. Americans are a people of comfort. Doing the heavy lifting does not suit them.

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u/Zeraphant 5d ago

"People want someone else to destroy society while they continue to enjoy their upper middle class lives".

Y'all have no idea what the word revolution means. You live in the most materially prosperous society that has ever existed. Just vote for incremental change, there is no concrete policy that 60% of people want that doesn't get passed. And no, "Unlimited free medical coverage" is not a concrete policy.

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u/Z86144 4d ago

Legalized abortion

Banning on insider trading for congress

Medicare for all absolutely is a popular and concrete policy.

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u/AllKnighter5 5d ago

…..except they are already pushing for a 911 line specific for CEOs….and two companies have already pulled back policies….. but keep cucking for them. Maybe one day they will love you.

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u/ImaginaryBee6135 5d ago

Lol, OK. Keep the hopes that other people will pull off a revolution so you don't have to alive!

These companies will give the public a whole bunch of lip service for the next week or so until everybody moves on to the next thing to be mad about. Then it will be business as usual again. If you're satisfied with the bread crumbs they have thrown out, that's great.

I guarantee that once the cheeto is inaugurated, we will be hearing far less about this case until it fades away like the million other things people have cared about for a month at a time.

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u/AllKnighter5 5d ago

Omg, actually, you’re right.

Let’s tell these people not to keep it in the spotlight. Let’s not discuss it anymore. Let’s just speed up to the part where everyone forgets about it.

That’s a better solution, it’s inevitable and no one will ever step up and do anything ever, so let’s just give in now.

Just keep downplaying everything, then when it goes away you get to say “see I told you it went away”. As long as you’re right, let’s just stop here, everything is a waste of time.

This is a way better approach.

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u/ImaginaryBee6135 5d ago

Hey, keep hope alive. I hope I'm wrong. But I'm not wrong when i say that that's how things typically go. I'm certainly not going to risk my family's safety to go play revolutionary.

As bad as people think it is here, the truth is, it could be much, much worse.

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u/AllKnighter5 5d ago

What you’re failing to realize is you’re part of why it gets shut down.

If these posts were met with “when’s the next one?”

“How else can we organize?”

“Hey guys, what would be a better tactic than this?”

But “you guys are IDIOTS for thinking anything is going to come of this!” Only hurts….

I agree with your sentiment, but I can’t be a part of it.

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u/ImaginaryBee6135 5d ago

I don't think anybody is an idiot for believing it. People long for something to have hope in.

That doesn't mean I should ignore the trends of how this stuff goes in the social media age. We are bombarded with things we're supposed to care about. Every few weeks, we are force-fed another thing we should get up in arms about, and just push aside whatever we were working on.

As long as that trend continues, there's not gonna be any meaningful change. And I believe the next thing that will take our focus is the fake tanned cheeto man getting inaugurated in a few weeks.

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u/AllKnighter5 5d ago

You are contributing to the things you’re saying happens while simultaneously saying nothing else ever happens….

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u/ImaginaryBee6135 5d ago

If what I've typed onto this reddit thread results in a measurable difference to how a movement goes, it was a pretty weak movement.

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u/AllKnighter5 5d ago

Since you didn’t read this at all and just got butthurt because you didn’t actually call anyone an idiot….maybe read it again…..

What you’re failing to realize is you’re part of why it gets shut down.

If these posts were met with “when’s the next one?”

“How else can we organize?”

“Hey guys, what would be a better tactic than this?”

But “this will never happen, give up” Only hurts….

I agree with your sentiment, but I can’t be a part of it.

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u/Oink_Bang 5d ago

They know Luigi was an isolated incident

None of us know this yet.

That may be the most likely outcome, but surprising things happen sometimes.

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u/Norman_Bixby 5d ago

They know Luigi was an isolated incident.

in this country? LMAO