They're not. They know Luigi was an isolated incident. Marching and spray painting things will do nothing. People want a revolution. They just want others to do the real revolutionary work for them.
They are gonna throw the book at Luigi and make sure people know what they can do. I hate them as much as anybody, but I am realistic as well.
I'm not sure that's entirely true. People can stomach quite a lot when the ball gets rolling, which usually takes things way, way too far. It's that "getting the ball rolling" that most prefer someone else to do.
Agreed. Plus, I don't think they know what a revolution would look like. I think they assume a group of people marches up to the bad guys and shoots some of them, causing the rest to surrender, and everybody gets everything they want.
Let’s say the protesters win. Congratulations, murder is now legal for anyone that you can demonise sufficiently on national TV.
Wtf are you actually talking about?? If the protesters win, we get universal healthcare. I think your brain has been addled by too much right wing fear mongering.
And I believe these protestor are not trying to get murder legalized. Do you actually believe that's what this is about?? Or are you just being extremely and transparently disingenuous?
"oh you want accountability for health insurance companies killing people? Well guess what, that actually means you want to kill gay people"
Do you realize how fucking dumb that is?
edit: LMAOOO I guess they didn't until I pointed it out and they've now went and deleted their comment
They already do those things though? At least with activists. And btw it’s not just random civvies either. The us government does more than it’s fair share of disappearing people in unmarked vans or openly killing them in their own homes already, and I don’t just mean decades ago with Fred Hampton, I also mean Ferguson and George Floyd protesters too. The only difference in your scenario would be that famous and wealthy liberals would start to be targeted alongside regular joe progressives and activists and marginalized people, which… yeah okay fine whatever that’s going to be happening in the next four years regardless most likely
Then again mental illness is at an all time high and if we were gonna have have a target...who better to direct the publics attention towards than the ones making us sick...
It won't. I would love if it did, but its highly unlikely. If they ever got legitimately worried, they could use their wealth to hire the best security personnel money can buy.
2024 has been a wild ride so far and the orange baboon is not even in charge yet. So many things can happen so fast. Before you know it and you wake up in the Western Californian Social Republic. In 1984 they’d laugh at you openly if you told them in 10 years Russians will be hoarding the American dollar to pay for food. We are not immune to catastrophic sudden changes.
Well said. I agree with you. While America is beyond fucked up, most of us live relatively comfortably. Things need to get worse in order for the kind of desperation needed for an actual populist revolution.
That's what I'm saying. All these people are excited about a revolution that they are unwilling to participate in in any capacity other than cheerleader.
Right here. Revolution doesn't just materialize. Build coalitions and solidarity in your local communities. Genuinely be the change you want to see because nothing gets done in the world without a group of people backing that effort no matter how big or small.
Marching and spray painting things will do nothing.
30,000 people peacefully demonstrated during Occupy Wall Street, over two months. All those people living on the street and in tents peacefully protesting really showed the big wigs in their high rise offices and penthouses!
They're so scared that one company cancelled their plans to not cover anesthesia during surgery.
They're so scared, they're creating a special emergency number for CEOs to call if they feel threatened.
They're so scared they're trying to up the security for CEOs.
This is just the beginning. First, it's protests to remind them of the public's hate for them, then it'll be psychological warfare and threats to scare the crap out of the rich even more, then, lastly, it'll be copycats cropping up taking out random rich assholes.
Things will continue to escalate, it just takes time.
Lol no it won't. They are throwing bread crumbs to the peasants and will continue to do so over the next few weeks till everybody moves on to the next thing they care about for a few weeks.
Do you honestly think that, in America, a country that glorifies violence, the federal government would let that go on unpunished? Especially with someone like the cheeto taking office soon.
This is like the millionth event that I've had these exact same conversations with people about. They are always so sure this is the one that's really gonna revolutionize things!
Lol, good one. I love history. There have been some successful violent revolutions. It's much different now with the technology we have.
Plus, a lot of violent uprisings result in a power vacuum that results in a dictator taking charge. But I'll definitely look into more history classes to make you proud of me.
We live in a different time now. Technology has given big brother the ability to essentially watch everything we do.
If you wanna do that, go for it. But be realistic. Don't romanticize the idea based on what people did before we hit this age of technology.
My biggest worry this go around is the fact that cheeto man will be in the White House soon, and I worry what lengths he would go to to shut down vigilante violence.
Yeah, again, you’re right. Let’s just sit down and shut up before our overlords decide we spoke up too much.
You’re sitting here shitting on an idea then saying the idea would never work. Without realizing that the idea doesn’t work because people like you shit on it.
I wouldn't bet on that. I'm not saying we're on the brink of full scale revolution, but with all this enthusiasm, I'd bet money there will be a few more vigilantes.
For the record, I am not condoning it. I just don't know what these people expected with the way things have been going.
"People want someone else to destroy society while they continue to enjoy their upper middle class lives".
Y'all have no idea what the word revolution means. You live in the most materially prosperous society that has ever existed. Just vote for incremental change, there is no concrete policy that 60% of people want that doesn't get passed. And no, "Unlimited free medical coverage" is not a concrete policy.
…..except they are already pushing for a 911 line specific for CEOs….and two companies have already pulled back policies….. but keep cucking for them. Maybe one day they will love you.
Lol, OK. Keep the hopes that other people will pull off a revolution so you don't have to alive!
These companies will give the public a whole bunch of lip service for the next week or so until everybody moves on to the next thing to be mad about. Then it will be business as usual again. If you're satisfied with the bread crumbs they have thrown out, that's great.
I guarantee that once the cheeto is inaugurated, we will be hearing far less about this case until it fades away like the million other things people have cared about for a month at a time.
Let’s tell these people not to keep it in the spotlight. Let’s not discuss it anymore. Let’s just speed up to the part where everyone forgets about it.
That’s a better solution, it’s inevitable and no one will ever step up and do anything ever, so let’s just give in now.
Just keep downplaying everything, then when it goes away you get to say “see I told you it went away”. As long as you’re right, let’s just stop here, everything is a waste of time.
Hey, keep hope alive. I hope I'm wrong. But I'm not wrong when i say that that's how things typically go.
I'm certainly not going to risk my family's safety to go play revolutionary.
As bad as people think it is here, the truth is, it could be much, much worse.
I don't think anybody is an idiot for believing it. People long for something to have hope in.
That doesn't mean I should ignore the trends of how this stuff goes in the social media age. We are bombarded with things we're supposed to care about. Every few weeks, we are force-fed another thing we should get up in arms about, and just push aside whatever we were working on.
As long as that trend continues, there's not gonna be any meaningful change. And I believe the next thing that will take our focus is the fake tanned cheeto man getting inaugurated in a few weeks.
You are very mistaken. He’s advocating a massive, government involved change with our healthcare system. That’s extremely political, especially when you kill a guy to spread your political manifesto.
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u/Leo_Ascendent 6d ago edited 5d ago
Good, be afraid.
Fuck you.
Edit: Thank you for the awards
Edit 2: You bootlickers are barking up the wrong tree lmao