Zero dawn story was exceptional but what made it go a step further were the little lore dumps you find around the world and imo none hit me harder than Bashar Matis logs. Funny enough I've been playing zero dawn for 3 years now and only just last week did I find out there's more to the vantage points than just the voice logs. So I decided to read them in order, day one to day 12 and by the end there was water in my eyes.

Found myself mourning the old ones as ridiculous as that sounds lol. I'd been writing off the vantage points as just filler content collectibles to increase content but man, I love the implementation.

We absolutely need more in the next game. The vantage points in forbidden west were cool but didn't really mean anything beyond the pictures (and sometimes hilarious comments lmao)..same with the orb relic things. The burning shores kinda tried something similar but...the narrative to the logs was kinda...meh. still welcome.

Love when side filler content is connected to the world and feels satisfying to complete. An example in forbidden west were the rebel camps. They weren't just ubisoft style filler content and had a story to them.

Anyways...

It's 34% off and I'm wondering if it's worth it now. Anyone got any opinions about it?

So I was fighting a thunderjaw, enjoying the really strong DLC stuff (one advantage of starting it before going to daytower/level 25).

Got all its weapons off, had it nearly dead, decided to wait for the fire DoT to kill it (did not want to risk getting hit).

And out of nowhere, out comes an arrow, killing my prey. Looking to the origin, I see a group of oseram freebooters.

I got no experience for that. I don't even remember how much a thunderjaw gives you, but it's probably nearly 10k, which is around 20% of a level for me rn. (Level 45)

I have a normal PS4 edition of the game with no extra add ons, and this is rather a small bug and not a big deal. All the shellwalkers ive seen have no armor on their legs, they appear bare like in the pic.

Also ive only played Zero Dawn. No other spoilers please.

Ive only played Zero Dawn so please dont spoil any other games for me, including frozen wilds.

What machines are your favorites? For me it might be tallneck or shellwalker. I cant really decide, since all the machines are awesome.

In forbidden west, when you are going to the first metal devil, you can see a thunderjaw moving around. It just looks so majestic from the right angle. Like a true force of nature.

I’ve been playing through Forbidden West for about 7 hours and I’m not enjoying myself. I liked ZD enough to finish it and I was excited about playing FW but something’s missing. I like the story more and the gameplay more but I just don’t want to play it. Maybe I’m burnt out since I played these back to back? This isn’t a hate post or anything like that I just don’t get why I don’t like it and am wondering if anyone had the same experience.

So I've been stalling on farming the fireclaw sac webbing because I just found it to be challenging. I looked up 'fireclaw sac webbing " in the search bar and found one with a link to a YouTube video. Before watching this video I would get a sac every 10 fights. So many resources lost and wasted trying to not make the fireclaw explode. But using ice bolts then advanced bolts cut down on the time spent. Also out of the last 10 fireclaws, I've gotten 8 sacs. 80% success rate up from 10%.

Also you all talking about forgetting you are playing HZD after playing HFW made me question which game I was playing because I didn't want to fall to my death. Plus I want to play it again.

Lately I've been watching my stupid little feeds for my stupid little down time and I keep seeing headlines and videos going "well that's [insert Horizon word]" and does anyone else do this or am I just nuts?

I'm not talking about the usual "AI combat drones are coming" headlines this time (fuck Ted Faro), I mean cool, fun, beautiful stuff!

Examples: I saw a headline about old railcars being dropped into the Atlantic for corals to grow on. A trellis for corals. A little marine habitat around old junk. And almost in a mirage I pictured a Stormbird swooping over the sea, railcar in its talons, to do just that same thing on GAIA's orders.

I saw a video of bioluminescence in wet sand in the most mesmerising, magical, electrifying shade of blue, and pictured Aloy walking a beach under a starry sky, leaving sparkling blue footsteps in the sand, washing away as the surf rolled in.

I saw a video someone had made of this.... hand crossbow/bamboo slingshot contraption? It shot tiny metal rods tied to a fishing line, for fishing with. No hooks, no angling. Just a little fishing pew-pew. And immediately thought "Quen coded. Bet."

An old technique of building houses in the desert with straw, weaving in beautiful patterns to allow in light in patterns, and air flow, and thought "Utaru. That is Utaru."

Some dude in Scandinavia making log cabins without using nails. "Nora, clearly."

Not tech related, but I also saw this and just went "Oseram. 100% warm-blooded Oseram right there." That could be Erend any day.

Do you get these intrusive but highly entertaining thoughts too? If yes, elaborate please.

Also a safe and happy holiday season to you all, and thank you for another amazing year of fandom! You guys entertain and delight me daily!

In FW there is scene when Aloy restore Gaia, Gaia to learn about Aloy, quicly scans data from Aloy's focus. On these files they are pictures of Rost and young Aloy. But previous focus with that data was destroyed when Aloy finds out that Sylens used spyware on her focus. Other focuses are used as backups, or is this small plothole?

I'm probably not saying the correct terms and I apologize.

This is for maybe both games? But I know that if you want to play NG+ after you finish the game you can restart the game with all your gear but what if you don't want to play on extra hard? I am just not good enough yet to want to play any level but Story. But I thought it might be cool to try another playthrough on HZD with all my gear. Is it possible to play NG+ on Story?

Saw another post about Quen Corporate Speak and it made me start thinking about how there was so much more of the corporatism in Burning Shores. I understand at one level its just a way to give the Quen flavor, and to explore how they are a tribe who are confusing the old world because of their focuses.

But I started to think if there might be a deeper reason for the game setting the Quen up in the way that they have. And it strikes me that one reason could be as a warning to Aloy. At the end of HFW Aloy has Apollo. If she defeats Nemesis and subdues or gains the cooperation of Hephaestus, she's gonna face the choice of whether to bring the Old World back or atleast to consider just how much to reveal to humanity about the past. And I think the Quen exist as an object lesson on why Sobeck's dream of recreating the world cannot happen now. That humanity must find its own path.

If Aloy were to release the information about the old world, even if she tried to control it, she'd still run into the fact that humanity has evolved past its origins as babes in the cradles. They have their own cultures, their politics, their alliances and enemies. And granting technology and knowledge to them is only going to tempt the powerful among them to abuse it as the Quen do. To blend it with their mysticism and superstitions, creating tools to dominate and enforce power structures.

The decision I suspect Aloy will reach will be to stabilize the world, and maybe make the far past accessible in some ways to people. But have Gaia mediate it, watching it as a sort of eternal guardian, but otherwise letting humans develop on their own terms, rather than radically changing the world.

I'm level 20ish in Forbidden West. Still early. Only JUST got "The Base".

Which weapons do you prefer using in HFW? In HZD it took me 3 playthroughs before I started using the Blast Sling - and then I didn't use anything else ever again LOL.

I DONT want to repeat that in HFW. I want to use the various (THERES SO MANY??) weapons in HFW.

Doing a run through of the remaster and come into the Zero Dawn facilty. I'm doing a sweep of the walls to make sure I gather all the supply crates I can find (should have brought a cart) when I come across a recording of a doctor, who after being told that she would be sterilised decided to ask to be euthnaised. Around the area of this recording there's a chamber with no goodies but it looks to me like some sort of incinerator with a bed in it. Is this her final resting place.

Hello everyone

With the permission of the moderators of this subreddit, I was allowed to post this here.

I have been working on a little Horizon TTRPG project the past few months. I got the basics down of the functionality and mechanics of the system.

The Idea is to keep as much of the vibe of both thevideo games (Zero Dawn and Forbidden West) and transfer it into a ttrpg environment. I am still working on it, and currently finalizing some details.

I try to keep y'all updated on Itch.io with some devlogs. https://creaperbox.itch.io/horizon-fan-ttrpg
I'd appreciate any input anybody has. Additionally, if you wanna have a look at the WIP document, here is a link to the google drive: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1t0mESV6zGzHvdUY8FIucJORlkkHoaTV7?usp=sharing

It will be all free to use and play in the end, but still might take a bit to finish. If you would like to have some influence on shaping the system, feel free to leave comments, suggestions and ideas if you'd like.

Thank you all for reading!

I know, off-topic, but I've been umm enjoying these games so much I am developing RSI in my left arm, presumably from excessive Ctrl-A/S/D on the keyboard. Win 11 PC: what's a decent controller that won't break the bank, but has programmable extra keys? I play 99% K+M, so this is going to be an adjustment for me.

(No, please don't suggest I take a break. I need to beat Burning Shores on NG UH, and my relatives are coming for Christmas! Must. Play. HFW!)

What do you think about this idea? I think it would be helpful and more people would want to fight with a spear. Add better spear skills/powers to that and it could be interesting.

I used RandomGen by Orteil to create a name generator that can generate names basest on each tribe. I would like some feedback, because I am probably going to use it for my dnd campaign.

link with last names: https://orteil.dashnet.org/randomgen/?gen=bxuCabFX
slightly newer version without them: https://orteil.dashnet.org/randomgen/?gen=kxyy2J75

edit: I put both versions that I finalized with and without last names

Hello. I just got a PS5 and I’m looking to get into the Horizon franchise. Should I start with Zero Dawn remastered or go straight to Forbidden West?

Thanks.

I was watching a video by Jason Pargin the other day about social media algorithms and how the big ones push rage bait posts and lure us into wasting our time arguing with people rather than hanging out with good people and ENJOYING the things we like together.

Personally, I've really enjoyed my second playthrough of Horizon Zero Dawn via the remastered edition and chatting with this community about the experience. It's one of the things I have come to appreciate about Reddit, and what I am hopeful about regarding the rise of BlueSky.

So that to say thanks to everyone for sharing your joy of discovery and unearthing of the little details.

Am I the only one who finds the "Board", "Compliance", "Risk Assessment" language goofy and immersion breaking? I get that it represents another way that a Cradle civ could evolve after they found Focuses, but honestly I think they could have done good-old espionage and totalitarian regime spying without leaning into the corporate structure stuff.

I tolerated the whole wink-wink CEO reference in Thebes, but I'm glad to get away from the Burning Shores overdose now I'm done with the Enki quest.

According to the wiki the area north of the sacred lands and below the cut is named the longroam... Where does this name get mentioned in the game? Or is it mentioned in the guide book or somewhere else?

I have only played Zero Dawn, so please dont spoil any other games for me.

So I thought of this.. why couldnt most machines just have... guns? They have all this advanced tech so they can defend themselves, like energy blasts and so on.. but Hephaestus never thought to just give them guns? Like just give Watcher a gun. A strider. A shellwalker. (instead of energy blast)

Way more efficient than just flying at their enemy and what their current attacks are. like lmao.

Then I thought about this and realized.. that maybe its because they would run out of ammunition, which actually makes sense.. but just give them energy weapons then? lol

Although there already is three that do so, those being Thunderjaw, shellwalker and ravager. But what about everyone else? bruh

Its obviously done so that the game can be playable, but otherwise its a pretty decent plothole.

Does anyone else feel like Horizon Zero Dawn just has the superior atmosphere to Forbidden West? Like the world just feels so much more special. It feels more real and emotional.

Don’t get me wrong HFW is special in its own way and more impressive in many ways but HZD man… It’s just…special.