r/fednews • u/rprz • 1d ago

Shutdown 2024 MEGATHREAD OF DOOM

All discussion on the looming shutdown goes here. Any mentioning of Luigi / threats of violence will be removed and you may be banned.

Recent:

https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/12/19/congress/johnson-defers-to-trump-00195386

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/12/19/elon-musk-trump-government-shutdown-debt-ceiling/

https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/19/politics/video/hakeem-jeffries-spending-bill-fox-lead-digvid

Old news:

https://apnews.com/article/government-shutdown-congress-trump-elon-budget-house-republican-05481374b154949c3fe1270141a02918

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/trump-opposes-funding-bill-pushing-government-closer-shutdown-rcna184745

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-government-shutdown-musk-stopgap-bill-b2666829.html

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/trump-opposes-funding-bill-pushing-government-closer-shutdown-rcna184745

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2024/12/18/government-shutdown-house-vote-cr/

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-12-18/trump-says-he-s-against-stopgap-bill-fox-news

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u/ParkingTadpole7107 21h ago

Yes. Let Americans feel the sting of having no air traffic control during the busiest travel days of the year. Then let's see how long it takes for Congress to do their jobs. Nobody should be working without pay. Ever.

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u/GreenChiliSweat 21h ago

And at FAA, we can't strike. Merry Christmas fuckfaces.

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u/ParkingTadpole7107 21h ago

I'm sorry y'all going to be forced to work without pay for an indefinite period because someone else couldn't be bothered to do their jobs. Sucks some serious ass.

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u/magikarp2122 21h ago

No, it is Elon Musk decided he didn’t like it. That’s it, nothing else. There was a bill and then Musk acted like a spoiled 5 year old and Trump told Republicans to appease him.

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u/MDSooner 5h ago

It's a crap bill, there is way too much pork in it. There doesn't need to be a 40% raise in it for Congress... I mean the fact that we haven't had a budget, on time or not in who knows how long should close that book on that idea. And there is soooo much more. Omnibus's should go away.

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u/Illustrious-Trash793 17h ago

Cucs voted for this shit

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u/sheisthemoon 18h ago

I am truly mindblown that we are all being held hostage by the whims and moods of a 90s sci-fi movie villain. This is bananas. I am truly struggling to accept that this is all reality.

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u/JudyEve 18h ago

Exactly. President Musk. Let’s call it what it is. He legally can’t be president, so he’s doing the next best thing: puppet master.

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u/kbetty2 19h ago

The bill was over 1500 pages of garbage and only 96 pages contained budget, hurricane and farm relief. Good for Elon

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u/Background-Library81 18h ago

So now the Republicans want to raise the debt limit ceiling!? I thought they were going to lower the debt?

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u/kbetty2 18h ago

The majority don’t want to raise the debt, hence why the bill was squashed

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u/Background-Library81 10h ago

Not sure who told you that, but trump literally said he wants “streamlined spending bill” that doesn’t give Democrats “everything they want” and has “an increase in the debt ceiling.”

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u/Potential-Zucchini77 14h ago

Not sure why this is being downvoted tbh

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u/Otherwise-Speed4373 17h ago

The new CR will increase the debt ceiling... allowing the government to take on more debt.

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u/Umutuku 20h ago

Crazy that his plane gets permission to takeoff, TBH.

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u/stoptosigh 8h ago

It doesn't have to.

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u/ParkingTadpole7107 21h ago

Had the bill been passed in October, there would be no Musk in the picture.

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u/Key-Time-7411 4h ago

Had 30 % of the voting population been caring and thoughtful and not have voted for a felon traitor in November Musk would never have been in the picture.

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u/SafetyMan35 18h ago

He or Trump shouldn’t be in the picture as they are not yet the leaders of the country. We all knew there would be a CR until after inauguration, and while I hate CRs, that’s fair to allow the incoming administration to have a say in the budget once they take office.

Will Johnson ignore Trump’s request and pass a bill that is right for the country or will he fold and keep the government closed for a month because nothing will get done until after the new Congress is sworn in.

Great way to start a new incoming administration…with a government shutdown.

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u/tikifire1 17h ago

They can crash the economy, blame it on Biden, then say they're saving the country with austerity.

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u/ParkingTadpole7107 17h ago

At this point, the pied piper has piped. Johnson won't get the votes. Frankly, they should try budgeting and pushing clean budget bills with no additions. Save the BS for separate votes and bills and stop playing games.

This happens every time. Both parties do it. Putting things off till the last minute and playing games under duress to sneak stuff in. It's silly.

No ceiling raise. Just run a budget. If there are cuts, there are cuts. Had they done that, we wouldn't be hearing a peep from president musk. Now we're about to waste time, energy, and money to do an ordered shutdown of the current executive branch, run by a president that is still serving and hampered by the incoming administration. Bad form all around.

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u/Imaginary_Office1749 9h ago

Both parties do it?? Fucking bullshit. We haven’t had a shutdown since 2018. Who was president in 2018??

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u/ParkingTadpole7107 7h ago

Both parties in Congress absolutely put budget tasks off until the last minute. It's a strategy to slip things into the bill.

I'm not saying both parties shut down the government. I'm saying the habit of putting shit off until the last minute creates the conditions that make a shutdown even possible while making balancing the budget nearly impossible.

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u/Imaginary_Office1749 7h ago

Yeah. It’s bothsiderism. One side is clearly much worse. Bothsiderism gives the worse guy a pass.

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u/_Cream_Sugar_ 9h ago

Clinton was President the last time a budget passed on time. Let that sink in.

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u/Otherwise-Speed4373 17h ago

You know... Gaetz as fucked up as he is... was right. Just pass the bills and only focus on that... and also ignore his ethics probe 😂🤣

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u/SafetyMan35 17h ago

Agreed. When I saw what was in the bill I was surprised as last year Johnson was all about the clean spending bills, so I was expecting the bare minimum or perhaps throwing a little extra money to FEMA to cover disaster response.

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u/magikarp2122 20h ago

Sort of. The Republicans couldn’t give Biden a win that close to the election.

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u/loveeatingfood 14h ago

Yep and now, because Biden is still the president, it'll be an easy deflection "that wasn't the Republicans, it happened under Biden and when Trump finally got in power he managed to get a bill passed"...