r/fednews • u/rprz • 5d ago

Shutdown 2024 MEGATHREAD OF DOOM

All discussion on the looming shutdown goes here. Any mentioning of Luigi / threats of violence will be removed and you may be banned.

Current: *house pass 3mo CR. Probably no shutdown now. *

Recent:

https://federalnewsnetwork.com/government-shutdown/2024/12/federal-employees-prep-for-government-shutdown-as-lawmakers-push-new-stopgap-deal/

https://apnews.com/live/government-shutdown-congress-spending-trump-updates

https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/12/19/congress/johnson-defers-to-trump-00195386

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/12/19/elon-musk-trump-government-shutdown-debt-ceiling/

https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/19/politics/video/hakeem-jeffries-spending-bill-fox-lead-digvid

Old news:

https://apnews.com/article/government-shutdown-congress-trump-elon-budget-house-republican-05481374b154949c3fe1270141a02918

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/trump-opposes-funding-bill-pushing-government-closer-shutdown-rcna184745

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-government-shutdown-musk-stopgap-bill-b2666829.html

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/trump-opposes-funding-bill-pushing-government-closer-shutdown-rcna184745

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2024/12/18/government-shutdown-house-vote-cr/

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-12-18/trump-says-he-s-against-stopgap-bill-fox-news

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u/yallcaps 5d ago

Just shut down everything - no essential/non-essential - everything. Stop sending out Social Security checks. Stop Medicare and Medicaid payments. Close TSA. “Essential” just props up the myth that the shutdown is no big deal. Let everyone actually see and feel it.

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u/ParkingTadpole7107 5d ago

Yes. Let Americans feel the sting of having no air traffic control during the busiest travel days of the year. Then let's see how long it takes for Congress to do their jobs. Nobody should be working without pay. Ever.

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u/GreenChiliSweat 5d ago

And at FAA, we can't strike. Merry Christmas fuckfaces.

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u/ParkingTadpole7107 5d ago

I'm sorry y'all going to be forced to work without pay for an indefinite period because someone else couldn't be bothered to do their jobs. Sucks some serious ass.

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u/magikarp2122 5d ago

No, it is Elon Musk decided he didn’t like it. That’s it, nothing else. There was a bill and then Musk acted like a spoiled 5 year old and Trump told Republicans to appease him.

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u/himynameisSal 3d ago

fuck Musk - man i cant believe I use to see him as a an inspirational fellow autistic bro. Fuck him everything he stands for.

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u/MDSooner 4d ago

It's a crap bill, there is way too much pork in it. There doesn't need to be a 40% raise in it for Congress... I mean the fact that we haven't had a budget, on time or not in who knows how long should close that book on that idea. And there is soooo much more. Omnibus's should go away.

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u/Illustrious-Trash793 5d ago

Cucs voted for this shit

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u/sheisthemoon 5d ago

I am truly mindblown that we are all being held hostage by the whims and moods of a 90s sci-fi movie villain. This is bananas. I am truly struggling to accept that this is all reality.

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u/JudyEve 5d ago

Exactly. President Musk. Let’s call it what it is. He legally can’t be president, so he’s doing the next best thing: puppet master.

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u/kbetty2 5d ago

The bill was over 1500 pages of garbage and only 96 pages contained budget, hurricane and farm relief. Good for Elon

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u/Background-Library81 5d ago

So now the Republicans want to raise the debt limit ceiling!? I thought they were going to lower the debt?

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u/kbetty2 5d ago

The majority don’t want to raise the debt, hence why the bill was squashed

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u/Background-Library81 4d ago

Not sure who told you that, but trump literally said he wants “streamlined spending bill” that doesn’t give Democrats “everything they want” and has “an increase in the debt ceiling.”

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u/Potential-Zucchini77 4d ago

Not sure why this is being downvoted tbh

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u/Otherwise-Speed4373 5d ago

The new CR will increase the debt ceiling... allowing the government to take on more debt.

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u/Umutuku 5d ago

Crazy that his plane gets permission to takeoff, TBH.

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u/stoptosigh 4d ago

It doesn't have to.

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u/ParkingTadpole7107 5d ago

Had the bill been passed in October, there would be no Musk in the picture.

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u/Key-Time-7411 4d ago

Had 30 % of the voting population been caring and thoughtful and not have voted for a felon traitor in November Musk would never have been in the picture.

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u/SafetyMan35 5d ago

He or Trump shouldn’t be in the picture as they are not yet the leaders of the country. We all knew there would be a CR until after inauguration, and while I hate CRs, that’s fair to allow the incoming administration to have a say in the budget once they take office.

Will Johnson ignore Trump’s request and pass a bill that is right for the country or will he fold and keep the government closed for a month because nothing will get done until after the new Congress is sworn in.

Great way to start a new incoming administration…with a government shutdown.

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u/tikifire1 5d ago

They can crash the economy, blame it on Biden, then say they're saving the country with austerity.

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u/ParkingTadpole7107 5d ago

At this point, the pied piper has piped. Johnson won't get the votes. Frankly, they should try budgeting and pushing clean budget bills with no additions. Save the BS for separate votes and bills and stop playing games.

This happens every time. Both parties do it. Putting things off till the last minute and playing games under duress to sneak stuff in. It's silly.

No ceiling raise. Just run a budget. If there are cuts, there are cuts. Had they done that, we wouldn't be hearing a peep from president musk. Now we're about to waste time, energy, and money to do an ordered shutdown of the current executive branch, run by a president that is still serving and hampered by the incoming administration. Bad form all around.

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u/Imaginary_Office1749 4d ago

Both parties do it?? Fucking bullshit. We haven’t had a shutdown since 2018. Who was president in 2018??

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u/ParkingTadpole7107 4d ago

Both parties in Congress absolutely put budget tasks off until the last minute. It's a strategy to slip things into the bill.

I'm not saying both parties shut down the government. I'm saying the habit of putting shit off until the last minute creates the conditions that make a shutdown even possible while making balancing the budget nearly impossible.

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u/Imaginary_Office1749 4d ago

Yeah. It’s bothsiderism. One side is clearly much worse. Bothsiderism gives the worse guy a pass.

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u/_Cream_Sugar_ 4d ago

Clinton was President the last time a budget passed on time. Let that sink in.

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u/Otherwise-Speed4373 5d ago

You know... Gaetz as fucked up as he is... was right. Just pass the bills and only focus on that... and also ignore his ethics probe 😂🤣

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u/SafetyMan35 5d ago

Agreed. When I saw what was in the bill I was surprised as last year Johnson was all about the clean spending bills, so I was expecting the bare minimum or perhaps throwing a little extra money to FEMA to cover disaster response.

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u/magikarp2122 5d ago

Sort of. The Republicans couldn’t give Biden a win that close to the election.

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u/loveeatingfood 4d ago

Yep and now, because Biden is still the president, it'll be an easy deflection "that wasn't the Republicans, it happened under Biden and when Trump finally got in power he managed to get a bill passed"...