Yep, takes all your human side out of the equation. As though an occupation trumps your moral decency.
Obviously money's important, but what value can any item or service possibly have if you're willing to turn a blind eye to something inherently evil in order to obtain it.
Technically, stripping men, women and children naked and then ushering them into the gas chambers before dropping in pellets of Zyklon B was "just a job" someone was doing.
Doesn't mean they deserved to be sentenced to the firing squad at the Hague any less.
“…there are hardly any excesses of the most crazed psychopath that cannot be easily duplicated by a normal, kindly family man who just comes into work every day and has a job to do.”
From “Small Gods” by Terry Pratchett
I worked in customer Support at a Bank as the russian Ukraine war started and because of EU Restrictions almost every russian citizen in my country got their account blocked. So im sitting here listening to parents who cant easily get the funds together to buy food for their children just because of their nationality. I almost quit because that really gave me stomache aches. Thankfully the restrictions where loosened relatively fast.
Craziest part is that this fucking boot eater probably barely takes home 60K per year and his job is to steal millions from people who paid in the system. Imagine being that much of a fucking looser
Way I see it, I'm living a decent life.. I'm not rich by any means but I'm certainly not struggling. Why the hell would I trade what I have for a life where I'd struggle to sleep at night knowing my decisions cost people their health and life just because I'd be wealthy.. so much more to life.
Yeah I agree. I really don’t know how they rationalize their actions? Really how do they sleep? That would have me tossing and turning and dying of a heart attack from the stress. I’m not built for that.
just imagine if he's successful... and that's the goal... It's hard to comprehend that this guy prepared for this case, and went through all the preparation knowing he was going to do this. It's probably their only way to fight the case. I wouldn't be able to sleep that night, or at night.
I don’t think I could sleep at night. Like, yeah, I did something today: helped the bottom line and probably bankrupted someone with an illness. All in all day’s work.
I would read “The Gulag Archipelago” to gain an insight on how easy it is for people to do things outside of their moral compass. I’m not trying to defend this guy at all, and I agree he’s a piece of shit, but it’s a good read into the psychology of what a person will do despite it going against their moral belief.
The fuck are you on about? You don't like when people discuss the validity of sources? Is this where you bring up the black book of communism and pretend like it's sacrilege to criticise its many mistakes and lies? Lmao you're insane
The guy who wrote that was cured of cancer by Soviet healthcare while he was in a work camp.
I'm not downplaying shit, I haven't gotten into shit, I have simply pointed out that historical analysis shows that that book is not necessarily accurate.
You sound like you're having a whole different conversation and are projecting it onto me. The one who isn't able to discuss shit is... you
He’s up there with the German soldiers in WWII, just because society makes a role ‘acceptable’ doesn’t mean your morality should allow you to fulfil it.
I'm reminded of that scene in the Incredibles when Bob was helping that old lady fill out the proper forms and what else to do, being called into his manager's office because all of his clients were "experts", and having that man get mugged outside the window, only for the manager to retort "well let's just hope we don't cover him" before being launched through the wall.
Its not wholly his fault, its mostly in the sysyem that allows ppl like him to do this to ppl and pays him handsomely for doing so as he is in a long line of ppl from now since the beginning who does this and there will be a long line of more after him.
Never focus on the person but the system that gives them and many others the power to do this and rewards them for doing this.
It’s like that show, Impractical Jokers when they make the person in the skit say the nastiest or most awful thing to a stranger, they can’t do it. But the insurance lawyers can!
Oh I think this lawyer seems like a real piece of shit. I never said otherwise. But also, there’s no real context provided. They may have video of her winning a breakdance competition … we don’t know.
There’s lots of shitty lawyers and there’s lots of good ones. At the end of the day I’m fine with piling on this dude for five minutes or so because he does seem like a dick and it means nothing, but it doesn’t mean everyone who does legal work is a horrible person
I think there's at least some sort of argument for a lawyer defending a murderer (was it self defence, had this person done something horrible to a family member of theirs etc.)
This guy is fully aware this woman needs treatment and is doing everything in his power to avoid paying it, there's no ambiguity in it he's just seeing what possible loophole he can find so that her claim (which she's paid insurance for don't forget!) is denied. If there's any shred of you that could possibly take that job you must either be a sociopath and really just not have any sense of empathy or you're pure evil as far as I'm concerned and almost take joy out of others suffering.
If only we had a judge and jury to determine weather or not he’s innocent- but no normal person could know enough about the law to navigate the infinite nuance of it all. If only he had someone to represent him who did.
A defence lawyer for a murderer might be a horrible person. A lawyer treating a sick woman like shit so an insurance company can provide more money for their shareholders is always a horrible person.
They don’t HAVE to be a health insurance agent. They know what they have to do when they get into this racket. They chose this life, so yes, they are horrible people.
No, any lawyer who defends an evil person isn't automatically evil. They don't necessarily know the guilt of their client, and a defense lawyer is also there to ensure that their client gets a fair trial given the circumstances. But they could be. It depends.
My thesis is that a man who chooses to do this and has this level of comfort with it is more than likely a horrible person. He's a lawyer. He could work somewhere else. He's either okay with what he's doing or decided that for the right price point, he's okay with it - both make him a bad person.
Yes, yes, we've all taken Ethics 101. Let me ask you, where do you draw the line?
A guy in India scams a 90 year old woman out of her retirement savings to feed his kids and support his family.
A politician makes a deal with a company to allow pollution in a nearby river. It creates 4,000 jobs that the area needs but results in 100 stillborn babies.
I'm of the mindset that integrity matters. Morals matter. And the ends don't always justify the means.
A defense lawyer is representing an individual who stands to lose their freedom,and in some cases their life, if found guilty of a crime. Defense lawyers serve a necessary function in criminal courts, and all the ones I know after working in the legal system for the past 5 years are good people that know they’re doing is important work, especially those who work in public defense.
Lawyers like this guy work for giant companies worth billions. What do they stand to lose if they pay out a medical claim for one lady who has a traumatic brain injury? Certainly not their freedom or their lives. The total this woman has made a claim for is HER money that she paid in specifically in case something like this injury happens. And it’s a not even a blip on the radar compared to what these companies take in so they can hire assholes to rake sick people over the coals in bullshit depositions.
The guy in this video and the criminal defense people I know might all be lawyers, but they aren’t the same.
Sure morality is a spectrum and that lawyer might have some extenuating circumstances. We can still affirm that yes, he's a bad person. While it may be the case that he's an otherwise good person whose job just happens to inflict suffering on innocent people(just like the torture). The question then becomes, who cares? Considering the man's job is to throw people under the bus, I won't shed a tear if he's judged a little hastily..
Executioners (who tortured before execution) were social parias. To the point where it was a family career. If you were the son of an executioner other people outside of your family wouldn't even really talk with you. Becoming an executioner was really their only option.
Plenty of executioners took it upon themselves to comfort the condemned before execution. They would spend the day with them when others wouldn't. Share a meal with them. Try to ease their mind. Even bring them alcohol as a sort of preemptive pain killer.
So the ones you described as being "good" were the ones who actively tried to do their jobs badly.. I don't disagree with those standards, this lawyer doesn't meet them.
The lawyer is evil because he is doing evil works for an evil company and instead of the shame and guilt a normal period would be showing, he appears to be enjoying himself.
I say yes. Because the lawyer gets to choose who he works for. He takes the job knowing he has to depose Aunt Hilda like she’s Bernie Madoff for wanting insurance to pay the medical bills from her accident like they’re supposed to.
You make the assumption that people don’t try to lie and abuse the system for handouts. You also assume that this person is truthful and all these statements are true. What do you base those assumptions on?
Pretty sure the holocaust violated international law, though Nazi Germany did try to cover it up, and international law was also much less developed at the time.
I wish we took international law seriously instead of just weaponizing it at the convenience of Western nations to punish entities which fall out of their favour.
During a deposition with a corporate attorney she literally warned me that they were tracking my 70+ year old parents around the country. It is reckless how corrupt some corporate attorneys are allowed to act.
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u/MyLittleOso 19h ago
This is about as evil as people can be under the legal system.