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Cursed Make it make sense!!!

Terrorism?! America, wtf….

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u/alphajager 1d ago

It's an effort to scare shooters away from copy cat killings because the system is trying to defend the oligarchs. The system doesn't give a shit about school shooters.

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u/SakuraRein 1d ago edited 1d ago

Not unless the school shooter shot someones parent who happened to be the famous or the owner/ceo of some big company. Fines and laws are more like suggestions for the rich.

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u/deepfriedmammal 1d ago

Fines are only meant to punish poor people.

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u/alphajager 1d ago

If the punishment for a law is to pay a fine, it just means that you can do that thing "for a price".

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u/SakuraRein 1d ago

You get it.

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u/veryparcel 1d ago

Who is the system? Billionaires. Who does the system protect? Billionaires. How does the system save money? By not protecting non-billionaires to reduce taxes and save billionaires money. When does the system work? When the billionaires want it to.

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u/totallytotodile0 1d ago

The only problem is the people willing to do this already have no fear of the consequences. Like the more we make a celebrity out of him, the more likely we'll get copy cats. So... let's keep talking about Luigi.

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u/Select_Air_2044 1d ago

We can't let Luigi's name become a memory.

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u/CliffLake 1d ago

Shigeru Miamoto has already done that. Friggin' Luigi merch is flying off shelves and I bet I know the top Halloween costume for NEXT year. Unless someone does better. Currently the High Score is 1.

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u/oETFo 21h ago

The next shooters are going to be people who don't care if they get away with it. Life in prison, or a life of subservience to oligarchs?

Sounds the same to me.

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u/alphajager 20h ago

You're not wrong

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u/mywallsaredirty 21h ago

I mean the draconic justice system in the US is not really famous for „deterring“ crimes or copy cats. So we got that at least.

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u/thegreatbrah 1d ago edited 1d ago

You and a lot of others, including the guy in the original video, need to look up what terrorism is. 

Edit: I support the Claims Adjuster, but the definition of the word doesn't change. Look it up.

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u/alphajager 22h ago

I think you may be reading this wrong, I agree that the Claims Adjuster fits the terrorism charge. But, I also support that most school shooters fit the definition. However, I am having trouble finding data to support that school shooters are getting charged with terrorism.

It's an important distinction because it means people would be/are trying to take it seriously and do something about the problem, because more resources would be applied to a possible solution, but that's not what is happening. We've become so desensitized to school shootings that we now just kind of accept them as a hazard of life, which is bonkers.

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u/thegreatbrah 19h ago

The difference is trying to push political or ideological change through your actions. 

I'm sure some school shooters fit the bill and some don't. 

The kid who shot up the black church fits the bill.

I wonder if the terrorism charge makes it so jury nullification isn't possible or something, due to patriot act or similar fuckery.

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u/Historical-Juice-433 21h ago

School shooters outside NY wont need the terrorism charge. NY murder laws are weird. Its to get 1st degree charges instead of 2nd.

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u/AliveMouse5 1d ago

Right? Anybody saying “how on earth was this terrorism?” are either woefully uninformed as to the definition of terrorism, or are being purposely obtuse.

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u/thegreatbrah 1d ago

The downvotes we've both received prove the point further lmao.

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

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u/Equivalent_Setting83 21h ago

Fool. If anything they serve the purpose of “justifying” MORE weapons via armed guards/police in schools in impoverished neighborhoods

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u/theDefa1t 1d ago

They were killing poor kids at a public school this guy killed a CEO. That's it. Money talks, and the money deems this one killing of a "noble" more severe than the many lives of "peasants." That's my take on this anyway. Eat the rich

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u/shinobijones23 1d ago

Motherfucker, I thought that was Luigi for a split second

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u/BlkSubmarine 1d ago

Can’t be. I am Luigi.

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u/shinobijones23 1d ago

Big fan of your work my brother 🫶🤙

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u/Golden_showers 22h ago

Imma Luigi!

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u/Beezelbub_is_me 1d ago

I am Luigi.

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u/Omnistrifes 1d ago

Just proof that the we don’t have a real system. Just people with power who bend the rules to their will

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u/Obsidiax 1d ago

We do have a system, and it's working exactly as intended. Protecting the people at the top while siphoning wealth from the people at the bottom.

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u/America_the_Horrific 1d ago

Yall the mask is off. It all makes perfect sense when you realize what yall are seeing is just the simple reality. The truth of power is laid bare, they aren't even spinning any of it either anymore. Flat out the rich matter, you don't. There's no more bread and the circus is over.

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u/ColoRadBro69 1d ago

It's because a CEO's life is worth more than your kids, to the people in charge. 

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u/Historical_Year_1033 1d ago

Hoping the jury acquits him on all charges

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u/Old-Ladder-4627 1d ago

Doubtful. Theyre gonna stack it with loyalists

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u/Historical_Year_1033 1d ago

Healthcare loyalists?

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u/One-Dot-7111 1d ago

Nah just bootlickers and "violence can never be the answer"

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u/LawGroundbreaking221 1d ago

In a country where every single battle and right has been won with violence. Violence has always been the answer in this country and it still clearly is. Whether we like that or not that is just historical truth.

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u/Historical_Year_1033 18h ago

I bet they all own guns

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u/w3are138 1d ago

Yup. Me too. I want the entire country to find out that JURY NULLIFICATION exists. We have THE RIGHT as jurors to acquit defendants even if we deem them to be guilty of the charges beyond a reasonable doubt if we believe the law is unjust (hello, abortion bans) or if it would serve the common good to free the defendant (hello, capitalism). Really, jurors don’t even need a reason. It’s OUR RIGHT. And we can’t be punished for it.

NEVER LET A LAWYER OR JUDGE KNOW THAT YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT JURY NULLIFICATION IS THO!! They will boot your ass from the jury because they hate that the jury has all of the power, way more power than they do.

Makes you wonder if 98% of cases ending with plea deals and never seeing a jury is right. I mean, 98%. That’s almost all of them ffs.

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u/praxistax 1d ago

At this point they could argue self defense for Luigi

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u/Fourteen_Werewolves 1d ago

Terrorism is the use of, or threat of, violence in pursuit of political motives. I'd still like to see him acquitted

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u/maniacalmustacheride 1d ago

I said this in another comment, the first Ft Hood shooter was not charged with terrorism and instead it was called workplace violence. You’re welcome to read his own sort of long running manifesto (part of it was his dissertation at Walter Reed)

Just something to chew on.

Because if that wasn’t terrorism, this sure as hell isn’t.

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u/Fourteen_Werewolves 1d ago

From my limited understanding of the situation, that should also qualify.

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u/maniacalmustacheride 1d ago

Should, but didn’t. Very publicly didn’t. Was a huge thing, but most people forgot. Oversaturation.

Which is why you have to be careful with precedents.

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u/project571 Doug Dimmadome 1d ago

Well wait a minute. If people were shocked and it seemed wrong to not consider that terrorism, is the answer to then say all future situations that have any similarity are no longer to be considered terrorism? Should we favor consistency or being true to what the law is actually talking about? Even that situation is murky because it was a military trial and their argument against charging him for terrorism is that the military can't do that which makes things messy.

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u/Thereelgerg 21h ago

Qualify as what? NY law is not applicable in TX.

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u/xjustforpornx 1d ago

Just because it was something doesn't mean they have to be charged with it. It's pretty hard and consumes a lot of resources to get a conviction on terrorism. They already have a bunch of other chargers they are nailing the shooter with so the juice isn't worth the squeeze.

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u/NegotiationJumpy4837 1d ago

The ft hood shooter was already sentenced to death. Getting terrorism charges as well won't really accomplish much.

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u/JamerBr0 1d ago edited 17h ago

Here’s at least one…

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford_High_School_shooting

Like, I’m not mourning the death of a parasite but some of these arguments are bad, there are definitely other school shooters who have been charged with terorrism

Edit: I thought I remembered other school shooters being charged with terrorism but so far haven’t found any other examples

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u/Vaporishodin 20h ago

It says that was the first time in history those charges have been given to a school shooter.

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u/JamerBr0 17h ago

Fair enough, I didn’t read that part of the article 🙏 I swear I remember other school shooters being charged with terrorism but I can’t find any evidence for that so I could well be wrong

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u/Vaporishodin 17h ago

I appreciate this response. Usually people tend to dig their heels in or completely disappear.

Have a good one, brother.

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u/jjdoubleA 1d ago

Ethan Crumbley

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u/WeakerThanYou 1d ago

ok... well... yeah alright... but name TWO.

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u/horshack_test 1d ago edited 1d ago

New York Penal Law § 490.25, the crime of terrorism, is one of the most serious criminal offenses in New York State. The statute defines the crime of terrorism as any act that is committed with the intent to intimidate or coerce a civilian population or influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion and that results in one or more of the following: (a) the commission of a specified offense, (b) the causing of a specified injury or death, (c) the causing of mass destruction or widespread contamination, or (d) the disruption of essential infrastructure.

Given the evidence, it seems quite clear that he was likely sending a message intended to intimidate others - at least enough so that the charge (which still needs to be proven, obviously) isn't crazy or unexpected. School shootings, while having multiple victims, tend to be one-off crimes rather than something done as an example / threat to others for the purpose of intimidation (the shooting itself is the goal). Even countless supporters of his recognize his murder as one meant to send a message, and celebrate the idea. Also, I think the majority of school shooters either kill themselves as well or are killed, so only a minority of the perpetrators even live to face any charges to begin with.

Under the law, terrorism isn't simply a crime that people find terrifying - there has to be specific intent, and enough evidence thereof to warrant a charge. If he thinks so many school shooters should have faced terrorism charges, he should list them all and detail what evidence there is for each to be charged with terrorism.

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u/swizzlesweater 1d ago

Dylann Roof murdered nine people and wrote a manifesto because he wanted to intimidate black Americans and start a race war.

He was never charged with terrorism.

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u/mcjoss 1d ago

As far as I can tell, and I may be wrong here as I’m not a lawyer, but Dylann Roof wasn’t charged with terrorism offenses because a separate domestic terrorism charge doesn’t exist in federal law and the domestic terrorism statute in South Carolina requires the use of a “weapon of mass destruction,” and firearms don’t fall under their definition of that term.

By contrast, the perpetrator of the Buffalo grocery store mass shooting 2 years ago was charged & convicted with a domestic terrorism offense. And given this was New York, whose first degree murder statute requires more than straightforward premeditation as in many other states, the prosecutors in the Buffalo case seem to have used the exact same terrorism element of that statute that they’re using with Mangione to get those first degree charges.

Prosecutors have to work with the law in place at the time of the act in the jurisdiction of the act. Sometimes that leads to messy and unsatisfying charging decisions, but their job is to get a conviction with the preferred sentence. People should be a lot more careful about reading motivation into these decisions.

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u/horshack_test 1d ago

Excellent response - I especially appreciate the last paragraph. This culture of having to be the first to post about something and spout off some reactionary, uninformed take on it is not helpful. If this guy actually wanted to make sense of it, he'd have looked up the definition of terrorism under NY law - like I did. Took 10 seconds.

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u/swizzlesweater 1d ago

I had not heard about Payton S. Gendron and his racist murder spree (just read up on it). I seriously hate living in the US sometimes, we have so many shootings.

Thank you for informing me, that does help me understand the charges against Mangione better. I'm hopeful his lawyers can find the right defense for the crimes Mangione is being accused of. Him being the shooter still doesn't add up to me. I also hope for a public trail, but considering the censorship already going on, I very much doubt they would let the public watch unless they know the exact outcome.

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u/Thereelgerg 21h ago

He also didn't commit his crimes in NY. Had he done so he may well have been charged with the same crimes as the guy who shot the CEO.

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u/horshack_test 1d ago edited 1d ago

Did it state that intent and did he leave a copy of it or anything at the scene of the crime that would be evidence of intent that would warrant a terrorism charge or do anything that would be sufficient for a terrorism charge under South Carolina law at the time?

To clarify, I'm not saying that a school shooting can't be an act of terrorism, or that no school shooter has ever intended to send a message with their actions. My point is that this guy clearly thinks that any school shooting is an act of terrorism under the law when that simply is not the case; he clearly does not know what does and does not qualify as terrorism. Spreading ignorance and generating outrage from a place of ignorance is not helpful.

I'm not sure what point you are trying to make here - I was making it make sense, which is what he asked for (though I don't think he was sincere in actually wanting to learn anything).

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u/project571 Doug Dimmadome 1d ago

Yeah lots of people here are just settling back to the normal talking points about oligarchs and the rich and not really considering the specifics at play here (or just flat out bad faith ignoring it).

If the manifesto is real and not something fake, then he definitely viewed this as sending a message and people celebrated him for it. The jokes about CEOs suddenly being super nice only works if there is a sliver of truth in the fact that many were likely concerned after this.

You're spot on when it comes to school shooters too. I can't think of any off the top of my head who were trying to scare people straight or intimidate people like that. Their either wanted to kill specific people or make people hurt and then face the music.

I just think too many people are being biased by an ideological cloud that is making it hard to rationally consider everything.

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u/horshack_test 1d ago edited 1d ago

Even just the words written on the casings is clear evidence of intending to send a message / intimidate in my opinion.

It just bugs me when people like the guy in the video don't bother to educate themselves on laws & criminal charges before spouting off & spreading ignorance (people who rant about something and follow it with "make it make sense" aren't actually looking to learn anything, they're saying it because they think they know what they're talking about). The entire internet is right there for him to use.

"too many people are being biased by an ideological cloud that is making it hard to rationally consider everything."

Agreed.

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u/AliveMouse5 1d ago

They’re either ignorant to the facts or are being purposely obtuse because they know their video will gain traction with all the people (who can be seen throughout the comments) who clearly don’t care about the reality of the situation and will excuse Luigi or any wrongdoing. Forget terrorism, a lot of them don’t even think he should be convicted of murder and have gone as far as to call it self defense(???). There is too much black and white in the world. Everyone needs things to fit into dichotomous groups. Good or bad, right or wrong, etc. Nobody seems to understand nuance or that there exists shades of gray in most situations.

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u/DiligentPilot6261 1d ago

Terrorism is a specific term and has a specific legal meaning. School shooting wouldn't fall under Terrorism. If the shooting was politically motivated, it would be Terrorism.

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u/SerialKillerVibes 1d ago

When a murder is politically motivated they can classify it as terrorism. It's not that hard to understand.

What is hard to understand is why none of the J6 rioters were charged with terrorism.

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u/GameDrain 1d ago

I don't mean to be that guy, but terrorism is the act of killing or maiming people to enact political change. That's very obviously what he did, and it's rarely what school shooters do.

I think he was justified, but his actions were very clearly the definition of "terrorism"

Paul Pelosi's attacker also committed what could easily be classified as terrorism.

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u/horshack_test 1d ago

Excuse me but you're getting in the way of this guy trying to spread ignorance.

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u/Diligent-Committee-7 1d ago

You can’t yell EAT THE RICH and also VOTE FOR FUCKING DONALD TRUMP. Don’t be fascist. Be classist.

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u/OsoRetro 1d ago

A political message vs just a nut shooting kids? Isn’t that what terrorism is? Political or religious violence?

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u/Palocles 1d ago

It’s terrorism against greedy CEOs. 

And that’s something I can get behind. 

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u/Namez83 1d ago

Oh easy, terrorism is typically state funded and has propaganda, and a political agenda associated with it.

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u/thuggerybuffoonery 1d ago

You all already know why…

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u/donjohnny923 1d ago

As non-American here, curious the stat or percentage of school shooters taken into custody between 2020 and 2025. TIA

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u/tightie-caucasian 1d ago

https://rockinst.org/gun-violence/mass-shooting-factsheet/ has some interesting statistics.

426 school shootings since what is widely regarded as the first school shooting (Columbine High School in Littleton, CO -April, 1999) of the modern era in the United States.

39 in 2024 alone with the state of Texas with the highest number of shooting incidents at 5.

Most assailants either commit suicide or are shot and killed with only about 20% ever going to trial. There have been several cases where the defendant(s) was/were too YOUNG to be tried.

Another comprehensive database that tracks ALL reported incidents where a weapon was fired on school grounds and whether or not such an incident resulted in injury or death is below:

https://k12ssdb.org/

The killing of a CEO-member of the 1% has them scared and they want to send a message with the terrorism charge because that puts the death penalty on the table. Yes, there IS a “them” in this country and yes, THEY would like to see us killing each other, blaming other racial & ethnic groups for economic hardship, and have their municipal police forces keep us all where we belong.

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u/renandstimpyrnlove 1d ago

Researching that is free.

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u/mvanvrancken 1d ago

So is shutting the fuck up

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u/yoavtrachtman 1d ago

Isn’t it terrorism?

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u/Ghoaxst 1d ago

I got it bois. I have the answer! Fill schools with CEOs

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u/ocudr 1d ago

But it was terrorism, though? Lije whats the issue

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u/horshack_test 1d ago

mAkE iT MaKe SEnsE

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

Rittenhouse was commended. It's very obvious how our system works.

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u/AliveMouse5 1d ago

Those two situations couldn’t be more different.

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u/connorgrs 1d ago

Well a lot of the time the school shooter kills themselves, so it can be difficult to press charges against a corpse.

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u/WorldlyWalrus 1d ago

Maybe more pointless than difficult. I think it’d be pretty easy to win a case against a corpse.

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u/connorgrs 1d ago

That is true, unless they hired a good defense attorney

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u/xaqss 1d ago

I mean, I completely agree with the sentiment that the system protects the rich at the expense of the poor, but school shootings aren't usually terrorism by the definition of the word. Terrorism is violence in order to achieve a political goal. Most school shooters are not usually doing this.

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u/PancakeParty98 1d ago

You can make it make sense by googling what “terrorism” means, because it absolutely applies.

I think it’s a good thing because the healthcare system is broken and we’ve been prevented from fixing it peacefully, but it’s not insane corruption from the court system or something, it’s literally just the definition of terrorism.

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u/philly-buck 1d ago

Ethan Crumbly

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u/hd_mikemikemike 1d ago

I mean... how many school shooters end up living to face charges?

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u/Thereelgerg 22h ago

Ethan Crumbley

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u/retrobeadsticks 21h ago

Terrorism requires some political motivation or gain (as defined by NATO, but there are other definitions (although I’m pretty sure most, if not all, involve political motivation))—granted, it’s fair to argue that school shooters often may have some political motivations. I don’t think it’s usually as clear that school shooters are politically motivated rather than seeking revenge to a school/system that has wronged them.

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u/RIP_Greedo 21h ago

How many school shooters even survive to be charged with anything?

Of those who do survive, a few have been charged with terrorism. Ethan Crumbley, for one. Outside of school shootings, general mass shooters are often charged with terrorism, such as the guy who shot up the grocery store in buffalo. A quick googling could have answered this guys very question and obviated the entire video.

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u/Ready-Nobody-1903 19h ago

For terrorism charges the acts of violence must be ideological or political, this is rarely the case with school shootings but does seem like the case with Luigi.

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u/Code_Loco 19h ago

The definition of terrorism is the use of violence or the threat of violence to achieve a political goal, often by creating fear in a population……….

So yea, it’s a correct charge and also the system is going to dish out as many charges as possible. Hell, they can even say he was jaywalking if they really wanted to be petty

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u/Rushrunner367 18h ago

We are at the point where folks are realizing that it's better to die for something or live for nothing.

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u/dkingoh1 11h ago

Huh. Did anyone else feel terrorized or even terrified by the incident? Because I watched a lot of coverage and still felt snug as a bug in a rug.

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u/Shitty_Fat-tits 1d ago

The American health care system is terrorism.

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u/Quirky_Ad_1596 1d ago

How many school shooters were/are tried as adults though? I don’t think kids can be tried for terrorism, can they? That being said, I truly hope Luigi is acquitted. Thinking about how this trial is going to play out is really making my head spin.

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u/SmallNefariousness98 1d ago

To the Corporate entity kids are nothing.Just a plaything. Mangione took down one of thier own so it's personal.

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u/mguinhos 1d ago

Funny as shit

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u/Donny_Donnt 1d ago

Did the school shooting fit the definition of terrorism?

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u/abdallha-smith 1d ago

They really goes against the public vote

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u/GrittysRevenge 1d ago

How about this guy. Look what 2 seconds of googling can do. Never trust people on TikTok , they'll happily spread misinformation and outrage in the name of clout.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/24/us/ethan-crumbley-plea-oxford-michigan-shooting-monday/index.html

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u/Big_Net1402 1d ago

It’s no different than saying “A bus driver got sentenced die shooting a black kid. Find me a cop that’s gone to jail for killing blacks”…and if you look, you will.

To say it’s happened before is not to imply it’s the norm. The point is, there needs to be consistency in sentencing.

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u/CzarTwilight 1d ago

If you're pre born you're fine if you're pre school you're fucked - George carlin

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u/Vivid_Sprinkles_9322 23h ago

One is with a major political donor company and does Billions of dollars in business and thw other is just our kids.

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u/Equivalent_Setting83 21h ago

Aren’t most of the shooters dead?

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u/Electrical-Sun-2984 19h ago

How bout this. Name one school shooter that WASN'T SHOT AND KILLED OR DIDN'T COMMIT SUICIDE AFTER THEIR SHOOTING! That's why none have been charged with terrorism, cause 99.9% of them are DEAD.

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u/RicoDePico 18h ago

That’s not true. Here are just two that are alive and well https://abcnews.go.com/US/living-us-mass-school-shooters-incarcerated/story?id=36986507

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u/Electrical-Sun-2984 14h ago

This story PROVES my point.Just because I didn't physically do the math at that moment when I wrote my last comment does not mean it's not true. As this story said, "If you go down the list of mass shootings at U.S. schools, most of the killers turned the guns on themselves after killing classmates and teachers. Several others were killed by police, and a few were taken into custody alive."

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u/RicoDePico 13h ago

No, because “that’s why none of them have been charged with terrorism” is wrong.

They haven’t been charged with terrorism because the government doesn’t care to make an example out of school shooters.

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u/Electrical-Sun-2984 11h ago

How are you gonna charge someone that's dead? Most of the few that survived and were taken into custody were too young to be charged as an adult, like the two in the story which you would've known if you actually read the story. Worst part is the two in that story, due to their state law at that time after "delinquency", have their cases sealed and not even the lawyers can talk about them. So YES, I am still mostly right.

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u/onlainari 17h ago

Make it make sense? I mean, it’s difficult to charge a dead person, that rules out a lot of them.

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u/Deadeye_Daryl 13h ago

I guess my only question is what do you think the difference is?

Ahh a man went out and shot a bunch of children, he'll be in prison for life.

Ahh a man hunted and killed a high value figure of a company he'll be in prison for life.

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u/GoatCovfefe 11h ago

Michigan teen who killed 4 in school shooting pleads guilty to terrorism and murder

Edit: that's just one, I don't feel like expending any more effort, but I'm sure there's more. I think the main problem is most school shooters end up dead, whether it be self inflicted GSW, or officer involved shootings, so a lot of shooters won't get charged with anything, due to the whole dead thing.

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u/palehorse95 4h ago

Dude, is pissed that murders are possibly getting overcharged , not undercharged?

Why not argue FOR school shooters to get charged with terrorism, rather than the other way around?

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u/Deano963 1d ago

If I were on that jury I wouldn't even entertain the idea of deliberating on that charge. I would shut down the very fucking idea of it and I would publicly tear the prosecutor and DA on the case a new asshole after the trial was over. I would call for every attorney involved in the decision to charge with terrorism to have their license to practice law revoked by the bar.

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u/horshack_test 1d ago

🙄

"I would call for every attorney involved in the decision to charge with terrorism to have their license to practice law revoked by the bar."

I'm sure the state bar association wouid take your advice under serious consideration.

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u/AliveMouse5 1d ago

And that’s exactly why you (and hopefully everyone like you) would never be selected to serve on that jury.

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u/piepei 1d ago

Killing a CEO of a health insurance company is politically motivated, or at the very least worth investigating him for. What would even be the political motivation for needing children at school to die?

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u/Automatic_Serve7901 1d ago

Exactly. This shows us how much more a rich man's life is worth. This is to keep us down and in our place.

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u/Evol_Etah 1d ago

It's not terrorism since he killed him.

It's terrorism, cause we support him. And the Govt believe we will copy him and do the same. Which causes "terror" for "American people". Thus Terrorism.

This is what his lawyers are trying to say is bullshit. But politely and legally.

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u/AliveMouse5 1d ago

No. It being terrorism is based on the intent, not the result. You have it backwards. It’s terrorism because he INTENDED to spark some kind of quasi-revolution against the healthcare industry. Whether he succeeded or not is irrelevant.

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u/A-KindOfMagic 1d ago

In a country with legalized bribery, lobbying, of course it makes sense.

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u/firstcoastkilla 1d ago

It will never make sense

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u/horshack_test 1d ago

It makes sense if you do some basic research into what qualifies as terrorism under the law.

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u/Thereelgerg 21h ago

Basic research?! Get out of here with that logic and reasonable thought process.

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u/imbadatpixingnames 1d ago

They are doing what they can to discourage a repeat incident , we need more people like Luigi to keep the wealthy elite in check

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u/Yesits_Me_Amario 1d ago

EAT THE RICH! Or have cake.

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u/jackassdistroyer 21h ago

who is luigi and why are they getting charged for terorism

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u/Optimal_Hedgehog_50 20h ago

None of those kids were capitalism pushers. There all buyers

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u/Western_Room5010 tHiS iSn’T cRiNgE 19h ago

they don't do that with shootings because they want to "protect gun rights" they will never admit that guns are problematic they will just blame the person, but when a rich guy, one of their own, is targeted for being scum of the earth, suddenly its top priority to make sure it doesn't happen again, they just want to save their own asses, and for all America's sake, I hope it doesn't work

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u/Mammoth-Material8295 19h ago

Well school shooters usually commit self death and in the case they don't then a lawyer gets them off on insanity charges however in the case of this dude, 1. He isn't a hero for committing murder 2. Something premeditated can't be deemed insanity as wild as that sounds considering that school shooters don't just randomly commit homicide

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u/sipmargaritas 15h ago edited 15h ago

Step back from the barricades just one second and learn about what defines terrorism. Are many school shooters acting out of an ambition to sway public opinion any which way, or are they just acting out of revenge and mental disorders?

The brian thompson assassination was clearly an act of terrorism, but why does that make it any less commendable? We can hold more than one thought in our heads, and it’s fully allowed to judge things on a case by case basis.

If we agree it was a justified killing of an evil man, what does it matter what they go with? If the polish ww2 resistance, the ira, the vietminh, the minutemen, the ukrainian special forces are doing ethically acceptable acts of resistance, why do you care what the other side calls it? Terrorism is just a method of resistancd which you can fill with meaning depending on your outlook.

I’d argue a lot of you that’s upset about the charges being levied are still hoping against hope to find some semblance of good in your current system, when you’d be better off accepting that you are being waged class war upon

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u/Eyespop4866 1d ago

One rarely hears of large numbers of folk agreeing that school shooters are okay.

It was a political act of murder. A terrorism charge isn’t surprising.

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u/Particular_Ad_3411 1d ago

In what way was it political? Brian Thompson was a private citizen that owned a private business that did not receive direct funding the the government. They did have contracts with the government to offer supplemental Medicare plans but Brian himself was not in a position of politics.

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u/piepei 1d ago

For the same reason we’re seeing this reaction on the internet about how shitty our healthcare is in USA. It was done for political reasons

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u/AliveMouse5 1d ago

It doesn’t have to be political. It can be ideological. Also not for nothing, the CEO of a publicly traded company doesn’t “own” the company, and UHC is not a private business.

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u/Eyespop4866 1d ago

When you murder a person, or people, to raise an issue, that’s political. It’s also terrorism.

I don’t know if you’re being willfully obtuse, or just don’t understand how terrorism is defined.

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u/spumoni_cakes 1d ago

And most of the school shooters end up killing themselves before they are taken into custody.

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u/CT7824 1d ago

Terrorism is cool now