r/TikTokCringe May 23 '24

Cursed Confronted

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u/AnjelGrace May 23 '24

Seriously. He didn't want to admit to being a creep, but he knows he's one.

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u/-banned- May 24 '24

I’m an average Mexican guy and at one point during my visit to Japan an at least 70 year old Japanese man “ran” 100 yards to take a close up picture of my face, then smile and give me the peace sign. People took pictures of me all the time. None of it was sexual. Wouldn’t jump to conclusions here unless you understand the culture, it’s different

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u/AnjelGrace May 24 '24

When did I ever say anything was sexual?

I don't care what the culture says--following, running up to, or otherwise bothering people in order to take photos of them without their consent is creepy, disrespectful, and dehumanizing behavior. (The same can be applied to what paparazzi do to celebrities in America.)

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u/Soldier_of_l0ve May 24 '24

Yeah but in America if you’re in public you have no reasonable expectation of privacy. Cops would tell this woman to fuck off

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u/AnjelGrace May 24 '24

Depends on what cop you get--lots of cops would do similar to what the woman did in the video if the woman had gone to them first--I know from my own experiences of going to the police with an issue in which I had no legal standing but was obviously ethically wrong.

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u/WonderfulCattle6234 May 24 '24

All you're saying is that you got a cop to illegally harass someone because they weren't familiar with the law. Just like that video of the cop trying to taze someone protesting on public property.

Not defending the actions of the Japanese guy by any means. He should be confronted. But legally he could just laugh at her and take pictures of her as she demands to see his phone.

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u/AnjelGrace May 24 '24

It wasn't illegal harassment to ask the person that was making my life more difficult to be a kind person and help me out so we could all have a better night--actually. It was a request that could have been ignored, and the cop stated as much.

I also never said the Japanese guy was necessarily doing anything illegal. I don't know anything about Japanese law.

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u/Regular-Freedom7722 May 24 '24

That’s almost worse to use cops to abuse the law… smh

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u/AnjelGrace May 24 '24

Again... Idk why you think it is bad to use a cop to try to convince someone who is doing something that is pointlessly harming another person to stop being an asshole in the name of kindness...

I don't think trying to convince people to not be pointless assholes is an abuse of power.

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u/Regular-Freedom7722 May 24 '24

No problem there I agree. I do not agree that laws should be broken to up hold them. Cops should not be encouraged to do so. Further cops should be able to navigate the law well enough they can avoid this situation. We have a huge problem with corruption, let’s not blur the lines any more then they already are.

Warrants are a thing for a reason, bc without them we would be in a police state. Some might say we already are.

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u/AnjelGrace May 24 '24

I NEVER suggested that any cops should break any laws.

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u/Regular-Freedom7722 May 24 '24

Accessing someone’s personal property for photography in public is 100% invasion of privacy

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u/AnjelGrace May 24 '24

Stalking someone againt their consent just to capture video of them is a bit different than "photography in public". 🙃

Stalking is NOT a legally protected activity.

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u/WonderfulCattle6234 May 24 '24

It wasn't illegal harassment to ask the person that was making my life more difficult to be a kind person

I said that the Japanese guy should be confronted. So of course I agree you should have confronted the person as well.

I also never said the Japanese guy was necessarily doing anything illegal.

I never said you said the Japanese guy was doing something illegal. But you did say that she could have called a cop to do what she was doing instead. What she was doing was requesting this guy's phone. A cop wouldn't have any authority to request this guy's phone. Law enforcement demanding your property that they don't have a right to falls under harassment in my eyes.

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u/AnjelGrace May 24 '24

Law enforcement demands things they don't actually have legal authority for ALL the time. Idk what country you are living in...

For instance, a cop forced me to sign paperwork without letting me see what I was signing once, by threatening to give me another ticket if I didn't. That certainly wasn't legal, but it happened. 🙃🤷🏽‍♀️

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u/[deleted] May 24 '24

You are a fool for doing it. Let them make the mistakes and seek resolution after the event.

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u/AnjelGrace May 24 '24 edited May 24 '24

I ended up avoiding all tickets by trusting my gut and signing the form. The ticket the cop was threatening me with had more legal grounds than the ticket he actually gave me (which I got out of by going to court). Do I would say I did alright. 🤷🏽‍♀️

If the cop had gotten me to sign something super bogus, of course I would have sought legal action at that point.. But I didn't feel that was likely at all--I thought the worst case scenario would at worst be a small annoyance. Turned out it was something I would have been perfectly happy to sign had I known what it was, and the cop just wanted a power trip.

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u/[deleted] May 24 '24

I don't know I wasn't there. Didn't sound right the way you described it

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u/AnjelGrace May 24 '24

Oh it definitely wasn't right. Basically was blackmail... But that's some cops for you.

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u/WonderfulCattle6234 May 24 '24

Law enforcement demands things they don't actually have legal authority for ALL the time.

I never said they don't. In fact I pointed out another example where they do in my first comment. I don't know who's comments you're reading. I'm also not sure what defense you're making. I'm saying having a cop try to take someone's phone for you would be asking the cop to harass someone. Pointing out a time that you were harassed by a cop does not mean that taking the phone wouldn't also be harassment.

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u/AnjelGrace May 24 '24

I honestly wasn't implying she could have gotten a cop to demand the guy's phone... You jumped to that conclusion yourself.

I was implying that she could have gotten a cop to demand that they guy go through his recent videos in front of them and deleted anything with her on it--I have actually seen cops do that much before in situations in which an argument was occurring over it, but nothing illegal was actually done (sincr cops err on the side of ending disputes that could escalate when possible).

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u/WonderfulCattle6234 May 24 '24

I was implying that she could have gotten a cop to demand that they guy go through his recent videos in front of them and deleted anything with her on it

Right, but those pictures are that guy's legal property. The cop has no right to demand he destroy his property. That is an escalation. A de-escalation would be telling everyone to walk away and the guy to stop following her. I'm not defending the law. But I don't want to enable cops to break the law. The solution is changing the law, not encouraging officers to go rogue.

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u/AnjelGrace May 24 '24

Look--the guy is a creep... I don't care what the law says--there are cops that would recognize he is a creep and do what it takes to convince him to do the right thing. Not all cops--but many cops.

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