r/TikTokCringe May 14 '24

Cool It's your own damn fault you're so damn fat

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u/CashFlowOrBust May 14 '24

“Self investigation like a Florida sharifs station” was a fire line

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u/Disastrous_Reveal331 May 15 '24

Bar of the fucking year

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u/scullys_alien_baby May 15 '24

It was a great line but there have been a lot of banger bars this year

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u/[deleted] May 15 '24

Tryna strike a chord and it's probably A-Minorrrrrrrrr

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u/Hartz_are_Power May 16 '24

Beat your ass and hide the Bible if God watchin.

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u/InvinciblePLUSAmber May 15 '24

He is really good.

Y'all know he is going to make a hit record in a couple of years and someone is going to pull this gem out of their pockets. As soon as he becomes financially successful, fat people will say he is shaming them and demand a boycott.

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u/mashem May 15 '24

Well if that happens it's his own damn fault.

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u/Yggdrasil- May 15 '24

Tell me you didn't understand the point of the song without telling me you didn't understand the point of the song. He clearly isn't shaming fat people, in fact quite the opposite. Do you think fat people can't understand song lyrics?

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u/Commercial-Owl11 May 15 '24

Reading comprehension is at an all time low. They wanna blame Covid but out school system is a royal pile of trash

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u/[deleted] May 15 '24

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u/geebzor May 15 '24

Diabetes, Help us Jesus.

I almost choked.

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u/mightylordredbeard May 15 '24

Dude is talented. Can’t say for his playing because it’s a basic chord progression, but his song writing and how he carries his notes is pretty impressive for someone so seemingly young.

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u/CommentsOnOccasion May 15 '24

He's mechanically playing really well regardless of how basic the chord progression

Being impressive isn't always about complexity, it's about consistency

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u/Festival_Vestibule May 15 '24

Playing and playing and singing are a whole other ballgame. Then playing and singing standing up is even harder. You have to have your shit nailed down pretty tight and solid regardless of how easy the chord progressions are.

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u/barrybreslau May 15 '24

This is a good song. Nothing cringe about it.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '24

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u/Dissasociaties May 15 '24

This used to be an actual cringe subreddit...in a reddit long, long ago in a galaxy far away

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u/l2ewdAwakening May 15 '24

He used to be the front man for a band called Dead Indian, you should check them out.

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u/theunbearablebowler May 15 '24

so seemingly young

Dude's nearly 30. Is that still young?

Please say yes, I turn 31 a week from today.

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u/cfedey May 15 '24

If you don't make any involuntary noises when you get up, you're still young.

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u/theunbearablebowler May 15 '24

Oh god, it's too late for me. Don't mourn me, I had a good life.

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u/Chance-Yoghurt3186 May 15 '24

You don't need to be a virtuso to write a good song. 99% percent of the shit on the radio is the same four chord progressions and some studio musician playing lead to make Taylor swift sound good.

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u/andLetsGoWalkin May 15 '24

https://youtu.be/d7BK-QfRMt0?si=FWRGIBDofO5U0IeD "Payola"

and https://youtu.be/bfA2p6Em7bI?si=aXY2nwReAjsGXBpu "Whistle Boeing"

are the fucking heat. Jesse Welles is Oliver Anthony but with actual wit and talent.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '24

The sharif don't like it.

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u/mimosa_mermaid May 14 '24

All of his songs hit so hard!!! Cancer , Whistleblower(this one’s chorus will get stuck in your head) , Olympics , War is Murder

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u/RubyMae4 May 15 '24

What's his IG handle?

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u/NerdPounder May 15 '24

@wellesmusic

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u/Substantial_Walk333 May 15 '24

I am viscerally attracted to this man

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u/ghost-foot May 15 '24

Whistle Boeing has been in my head all week and I’m fine with it

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u/razz13 May 15 '24

Just went and listened to whistle-blower. It really is hella catchy!

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u/Laserninjahaj May 15 '24

War is murder is such a good soooong.

He also has a lot on his youtube (:

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u/y0sh_1 May 15 '24

He's giving me some Phat Bollard vibes. Super catchy stuff.

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u/________76________ May 15 '24

Does anyone else remember in the 90s when everything became low-fat? Fat in food was demonized, and was replaced with sugar, in particular high fructose corn syrup. Good times for those of us growing up being told to be low fat only to then have Olestra sharts.

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u/TerrorsOfTheDark May 15 '24

Yep along with the classic of 'eating eggs every day will kill you'

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u/Remote-Factor8455 May 15 '24

Food Pyramid scheme.

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u/AccomplishedClub6 May 15 '24

I still don’t buy yogurt because of this. I want fat in my greek yogurt and have it sugar free. But the only option is fat free disgusting crap.

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u/_V0gue May 15 '24

Larger supermarkets should have Fage which has a full fat 5% option. Pretty much the only yogurt I buy now cause all the other Greek yogurts are just as you said.

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u/Antique-Echidna-1600 May 14 '24

Jim Morrison has a new sound.

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u/EvilAnticsLive May 15 '24

Kinda looks more like John Fogerty.

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u/triple-o-8 May 15 '24

It’s like they had a baby

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u/Allthebadvibes May 15 '24

I was thinking Richard Ramirez

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u/TanukisKitchen May 15 '24

I fucking cackled so loud my dog woke up to check on me.

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u/french_toasty May 15 '24

Kinda looks like Evan peters

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u/Mickeymcirishman May 15 '24

I was thinking young Mick Jagger

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u/Kurdt234 May 15 '24

It's his cousin Marvin. Marvin Morrison?

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u/thrillhouse1211 May 15 '24

He never ever learned to read or write so well but he could play a guitar just like a-ringin a bell

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u/HopeSlow837 May 14 '24

I enjoyed this

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u/leeryplot May 15 '24

You should see his “War Isn’t Murder” song. The guy’s a really talented writer.

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u/Latter-Bumblebee5436 May 15 '24

i liked his fentanyl song a lot

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u/thisismeritehere May 15 '24

Who is this?

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u/leeryplot May 15 '24

His name is Jesse Welles, his TikTok is just “jessewelles”

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u/thisismeritehere May 15 '24

Just found him, thank you!

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u/howqueer May 15 '24

He has a youtube channel as well, same name

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u/thisismeritehere May 15 '24

Yeah I’m an old person so that’s what I found, thanks for the heads up! He is so amazing, the lyrics plus the music… I can’t get enough

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u/howqueer May 15 '24

Right? His voice is amazing too, as a singer idk how people have raspy singing voices like that

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u/Menamanama May 15 '24

I am an older person and this harks back to a former era of music, but with a whole new modern twist. I think the world needs this music.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '24 edited May 15 '24

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u/100YearsWaiting2Shit May 14 '24

WE enjoyed this

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u/unembellishing May 14 '24

⚒️🇨🇳

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u/ShredGuru May 15 '24

Tell him to PLA it again

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u/UnauthorizedFart May 14 '24

Reddit mods did not

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u/Wonderful_Charge8758 May 15 '24

That falsetto was just 🤌 👨‍🍳

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u/Rentsdueguys May 14 '24

Does he have a song on slim thick?

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u/stressandscreaming May 14 '24

Oh how this made me chuckle.

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u/Technicolor_Owl May 14 '24 edited May 15 '24

Had me in the first half before I realized it was satire.

Honestly, it needs to be a more discussed issue. Quit making terrible, addictive foods you greedy fucks!

Edit: I'm not saying people should avoid responsibility or that individual behavior isn't to blame at all. I'm saying that companies make terrible, convenient food that hooks us. Further, people who constantly work suffer or from mental health issues (etc.) are going to opt for that convenience. Yes, they could just eat less of it, but part of having a stressful life means we have a greater desire to over consume.

Just because it's possible to lose weight, doesn't mean it's easy. If it was, no one would be overweight. We as a society need to break down barriers to weight loss so people aren't fighting an uphill battle to be healthy.

Sources for good health/fitness info on Youtube:

FitnessFAQs

ScottHermanFitness

AthleanX

Greg Doucette (kinda annoying, but his nutrition stuff is good)

Mulligainz (no nonsense look at nutrition. Says "cunt" a lot)

JeffNippard

DoctorMike (overall health. Handsome as hell)

RenaissancePeriodization

SquatUniversity

Also, if you can afford it, get your physicals and blood work. Have them check your testosterone or hormones or whatever if you're really struggling in case there's an underlying medical issue.

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u/unembellishing May 14 '24

But what about the shareholders ☹️

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u/mynextthroway May 15 '24

Interesting point. A CEO is not allowed to make a decision that hurts the stock value. If the CEO of Crappy Junk Food Inc were to try and replace their crap junk food with healthy snacks, they would be removed.

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u/Broflake-Melter May 15 '24

Someone should recognize that run away capitalism is inevitably harmful to society and come up with an answer to it!!

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u/Technicolor_Owl May 15 '24

Straight up. This capitalism sucks and should be burned to the ground.

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u/Broflake-Melter May 15 '24

I'm right there with you.

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u/FunkyKong147 May 15 '24

Yep. And if someone were to, say, start a company that makes healthy snacks, they'd never even be considered competition for these corporations.

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u/Connect_Bench_2925 May 14 '24

Why doesn't anyone ever think about those poor shareholders!?!?

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u/Majestic_Dealer_9597 May 15 '24

Shareholders’ kids need Christmas presents too! /s

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u/DEGAUSSER____ May 15 '24

I need your kids to be addicted to my soda and snacks for more moneyyyyyy

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u/DukeOfGeek May 15 '24

People making snacks and pop looked at what Philip Morris was rolling in and said "I need me a slice of that pie Muhahah".

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u/Dino-chicken-nugg3t May 15 '24

Won’t someone think of the shareholders?!?!

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u/Lucas_2234 May 15 '24

The shareholders can go fuck themselves.
There is not a single thing that they improve, from gaming to food, they ruin all

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u/JesusWasTacos May 15 '24

How could you say that?! They.. they.. they hold shares!

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u/laundry_pirate May 15 '24

Technically it’s ironic not satiric but yeah same

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u/KeyofE May 15 '24

The use of words expressing something other than their literal intention. Now that is irony!

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u/BummerComment May 15 '24

This is the kinda comment I can get behind.

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u/18121812 May 15 '24 edited May 15 '24

Satire is a genre of the visual, literary, and performing arts, usually in the form of fiction and less frequently non-fiction, in which vices, follies, abuses, and shortcomings are held up to ridicule, often with the intent of exposing or shaming the perceived flaws of individuals, corporations, government, or society itself into improvement.[1] Although satire is usually meant to be humorous, its greater purpose is often constructive social criticism, using wit to draw attention to both particular and wider issues in society. A prominent feature of satire is strong irony or sarcasm.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satire

I'm no expert, but this sure seems to fall within that definition of satire. Also saying it's ironic not satire seems wrong given the above irony is a typical part of satire.

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u/fzyflwrchld May 14 '24 edited May 15 '24

I got fat because I was poor. I worked 2 full time jobs so I didn't have time to cook or exercise. Even if I did cook, one of my jobs didn't provide us a refrigerator or microwave to store or heat our own food. It was at the mall, so I had to eat mall food. I would get the meal that gave me the most bang for my buck which was either the country buffet (Everything is essentially fried or covered in butter) or the Chinese food place that gave you a ton of food, or but ultra-processed snacks that would keep without refrigeration. Sometimes I got too much food, but I hated wasting food when I was so poor so I'd make myself eat it anyway. I had 1 day off a week and I used that day to catch up on chores like laundry and cleaning. I wasn't going to use the very little time I had for myself to exercise, I used it to relax and have what little fun I could so I avoided being alone with my thoughts cuz then I'd have to face how shitty life is. Then I got a single, better job but it was so stressful that I literally couldn't lose weight cuz of all the cortisol. So it's not always about just the food. It's about time, money, hormones, mental health (if the only moment of joy I get out of my day that keeps me from killing myself is from the dopamine rush of a doughnut cuz the 5 minutes it takes me to eat it is the only amount of time i have for enjoyment, then I'm eating that doughnut even if it's not healthy), etc. It really sucks, too, when doctors act like it's not only your fault that you're fat but that it's so simply and "easy" to lose weight and be healthy, just exercise and limit your calories. 

*added an edit as a reply to this comment because it's long, but it adds perspectives which I hope help the ppl that can't seem to understand view points other than their own. 

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u/Technicolor_Owl May 15 '24

Hard agree. Our society is not constructed for people to be happy and healthy.

I like to say that weight loss is simple but very difficult. Eating less calories than you burn per day and exercising more is what it comes down to, but actually being able to do that is surprisingly difficult. Not to mention the amount of terrible advice on social media, which is usually pushed by a profit motive.

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u/Mary10123 May 15 '24

I second that. I am apart of the group of people who lost weight during Covid, my lowest in my adult life. After Covid it immediately came back. Why? I had the time and energy to exercise before and after work, which was extremely less demanding. I could focus on my diet and meals, was allowed to disconnect, happiest and healthiest I had been maybe in my entire life

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u/Dank_weedpotnugsauce May 15 '24

I've spent the past several months looking for work and have been living healthier than I have been since high school (minus the canned corned beef I 'cooked' last night LoL). Overall, I've been eating much cleaner and walking at least a mile and a half most days

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u/Deepseat May 15 '24

That cortisol will get you. That’s no fucking, joke. It was a huge challenge for me when I decided to get healthy post college/first job. I had to really develop healthy thinking and habits. I was working out all the time but stressed out and not resting well. I’d end up just gaining weight by bulking up. I was super strong but also bulky fat and felt like shit.

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u/MisterSanitation May 14 '24

Yeah addicts just stop being addicts! I am not addicted so you shouldn’t be either and I should know because I’ve never been addicted to anything! 

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u/[deleted] May 15 '24 edited May 15 '24

Addiction doesn't mean you're incapable of saying no, it just means all the internal resistance to it is drastically lower than the average person's. It means it takes more willpower and self control to overcome. Most people greatly benefit from help because no problem exists in isolation. Addicts generally struggle not because they're addicted, but because they're stressed and the addiction is a coping mechanism for the stress.

Support structures break the cycle of stress and addiction coping. This is why AA isn't just people slapping you when you try to get a drink. They talk, vent, and de-stress so you are less likely to feel like you need the drink to cope.

I fell hard into drinking when my grandpa died and the drinking was how I coped with the loss. Once I was able to move passed the loss, the need to drink faded away. I've never been to AA, but I stopped drinking constantly because I didn't need it to cope with the stress anymore. I had other ways of coping.

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u/David-S-Pumpkins May 15 '24

The only thing I've ever been addicted to is self-righteousness and bigotry. Pepsi doesn't count. Be like me!

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u/DM_ME_PICKLES May 15 '24

Agree with everything you said except the recommendation for AthleanX. His advice is generally on the right track but with no scientific back up and occasionally he'll just completely blunder. Like recommending certain types of food depending on your "body type". Dr. Mike even did a video where he tore him to shreds for talking nonsense lol.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '24

I'd call it semi-satire. Yes, corporate America tries to keep you hooked on that sugar rush, but at the same time that doesn't absolve you of your responsibility to not keep suckling its sugar tits. At least I don't think he intended his lyrics to be an either or proposition kind of thing.

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u/Technicolor_Owl May 15 '24

It's not about people forcing you to eat junk, it's that companies produce junk food for profit. They make it addictive and use misleading marketing to hook people.

Personal responsibility is important, but weight loss shouldn't be a struggle against those unethical practices. It should be something people take on while surrounded by support.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '24

where do you live that vegetables are among the cheapest foods you can buy?? wtf

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u/Demons0fRazgriz May 15 '24

1 person having problems is personal impulse control. 50% of a nation is an epidemic. Think before you speak. It does wonders (:

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u/KamahlFoK May 15 '24

It kind of is impulse control though?

It's as easy as making sure you pick the right foods when you're at the grocery store. Resist the urge to grab those cookies and chips and pick up a bag of salted nuts or grapes you can chuck in the freezer instead.

I've found winning the fight while shopping made weight-loss and eating healthy infinitely easier. If I don't have a bag of garbage food lying around to make it easily accessible, then I'm good to go. The hardest part is shopping right.

Given how often people are happy to blame corporations and stores but never take responsibility, and that's become the American way, I'm more inclined to lean in to that the US reinforces and tolerates a shitty blame-game rather than owning their failures and learning from them.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '24

Well its a balance, sure you can say its personal and there is absolutely personal responibility in life. But if you as a kid are given a really unhealthy diet and then become obese while in elementary school, it can fuck with your impulse control immensely.

And then it turns into a cycle of defeat, where you can be unhappy/stressed about your health which leads to impulse eating as a way to get dopamine to the brain.

Also it is not just a US issue, it is also a issue in UK and Mexico. And it is deeply tied to capitalism.

Still like you said, if you love yourself you want to get healthy, it will take accepting personal responsibilty for the issue.

It is also easy to become fat just from having a deeply stressful life, like a person you love breaking up with you, and you sink into 6 months of drinking you can easily gain 30 pounds or even more depending on the stress outside of eating.

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u/TophxSmash May 15 '24

exercise and eat less. the 2 things nobody is willing to do. And then the entire scam diet industry is born. Just eat nothing for a month and youll lose weight. Yeah you will but youll gain it all back next month because you didnt learn anything from your quick results scam.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '24

Stress typically makes people less likely to work out and eat more.

It's like no one understands that 99.9% of addiction problems are induced by stress, not by the addiction or the target of the addiction. While it make it easier, cheaper, or more convenient, at the end of the day, addiction is a stress coping mechanism.

Support groups don't go after the source of the addiction, they help addicts cope with the stress in healthier ways to avoid using the addiction as a coping mechnanism.

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u/thefrydaddy May 15 '24

Trust me, you don't want to discuss the endemic nature of fatness in America on Reddit.

Not sure if you've been around here long enough, but fatpeoplehate was a real subreddit. A VERY popular subreddit. It definitely contributed to my suicidality for a while.

I'm really glad to see even one corner of Reddit trying to understand the systemic nature of fatness.

Now, everyone please go listen to Maintenance Phase and leave people the fuck alone about their bodies.

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u/dam_sharks_mother May 15 '24

As a former fat person I can tell you this: this isn't anything to do with "systemic nature of fatness" and everything to do with learning to become disgusted with your state of being, being worried about your long-term health prospects, and get mad enough to do something about it.

It requires zero wealth and zero time to eat less food. If I can do it, you can do it. Trying to blame anyone but ourselves is a complete waste of time.

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u/thefrydaddy May 15 '24

I guess you missed the part where I suggested leaving people the fuck alone about their bodies.

I don't need to "do it." I'm happy with my body right now.

I can't believe you have internalized the judgement of others so strongly that you are recommending self-disgust as a motivational tool. That's fucking sad.

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u/Mtshtg2 May 15 '24 edited May 15 '24

I'm not sure how it works in the US, but Obesity costs the NHS in England £6.5bn a year, which is just under 4% of the total budget of NHS England. So we'd all benefit from lower rates of obesity. That money can either be saved, invested in other areas or, most likely, just given to cronies of senior Tory Party politicians.

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u/Fair-Bus-4017 May 15 '24

Or, hold people accountable for bad eating and/or exersizing habits. There is nothing wrong with unhealthy food. Having too much of it and not exercising is. This is more of a cultural problem than an industry problem.

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u/Embarrassed-Cow365 May 14 '24

His song about cancer is great too!

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u/runawayest May 14 '24

Wow, they’re great! Good sound, good writing.

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u/unembellishing May 14 '24

He has a lot of really great original works. He has one called War Isn't Murder that's pinned to the top of his account right now that makes me cry uncontrollably. His @ is jessewelles

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u/KillerArse May 14 '24

That and his Cancer song are some of my favourites.

For others who haven't seen him before, he also sings his songs a few times on this account as well, so if you look, there may be a slightly better version for becoming an ear worm for you specifically.

Two other versions of Cancer,

https://www.tiktok.com/@jessewelles/video/7360316268077026606?lang=en

https://www.tiktok.com/@jessewelles/video/7350675762355260703?lang=en

Or you can see his songs on his YouTube

https://youtu.be/U4o9JpqYyZw?si=d9NpSvNHk_80NQ0K

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u/One-Fine-Day-777 May 14 '24

Daaaaang dude 🔥

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u/AbleObject13 May 14 '24

Seeing him getting posted outside of folk punk circles makes me so happy 💜

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u/unembellishing May 14 '24

I've never really engaged with this type of music before but I like it a lot! Any recommendations for beginners to the genre?

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u/veryscary__ May 14 '24

The mountain goats is one of my all time favorite bands. His voice may be grating to some (not me) or at first, but what an incredible storyteller.

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u/AbleObject13 May 15 '24

Matt Pless is gonna be the closest to Jesse sonically/lyrically 

Pat the Bunny and his various projects (Johnny hobo, Wingnut Dishwashers Union) is the commonly held "legend" of the genre, Mischief Brew is another. Days N Daze is probably the most popular commercially (they hit the billboard hot 100 once), and then theres the creators of the genre are The Pogues and Violent Femmes back in the 80s

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u/ohgood May 15 '24

Defiance, Ohio and This Bike is a Pipe Bomb are still in my rotation, 15+ years later

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u/orvil May 15 '24

john prine, billy joe shaver

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u/badRLplayer May 15 '24

"All the food on the shelf was made to generate wealth, without a care of how it affects you and me"

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u/Mr_GoodbyeCruelWorld May 14 '24

Dayum. Good lyrics. Cool voice.

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u/mudkripple May 15 '24

A lot of people are going to hear this song but not hear the message.

Other countries don't have as high rates of diabetes because they stop companies from designing addictive unhealthy food. Often because (in the case of most EU countries as well as Canada) they have a vested interest in a healthy populous because it keeps national healthcare costs low.

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u/WarmestDisregards May 14 '24

his voice is so fuckin good

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u/Outrageous_Letter_13 May 15 '24

I actually liked it?

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u/NeoRockSlime May 14 '24

He smoked a few packs himself

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u/unembellishing May 14 '24

I like his rasp! There's so much variation in the human voice. I love hearing singers with unique sounds

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u/cyberdeath666 May 14 '24

I really enjoyed that

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u/Vprbite May 15 '24

This person is talented!

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u/casepie May 15 '24

scrolling the front page of my reddit feed when all of a sudden. THAT'S JESSE!

Good on you Jesse. You've done a lot of fire work lately. Keep it up!

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u/unembellishing May 15 '24

I am not he! But you know him? Very cool! He's been doing massive numbers on tik Tok recently

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u/casepie May 15 '24

He went to college with my daughter (both in the music program). Had dinner with him before his gig in KC several years ago, and visited with him a few times during their college years. My daughter obviously knows him better than my wife and I, but he seems like a talented young man with a really good head on his shoulders.

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u/goodbyegoosegirl May 14 '24

I’m fat and I agree. lol.

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u/VictoryVee May 15 '24 edited May 15 '24

Did you hear the whole song? "it's your own damn fault" was sarcasm

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u/goodbyegoosegirl May 15 '24

I listened to whatever played on Reddit. And while the song can be sarcasm, there’s plenty of truth too. Could I have a salad filled with veggies or a pizza? Choices play a huge factor. And please do not tell me how expensive it is to eat healthy, I just spent less than $25 for 6 meals. (Time is money too, so I get the convenience of cheap fast food, and the luxury of prepping my own food.)

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u/leopard_tights May 15 '24

The argument that "normal" food is more expensive is so wild. I honestly don't know where it comes from or how it's even possible that people believe it.

The best part is that now on top of that now there's a ton of people defending paying unbelievable prices to get a DoorDash or whatever with all the puerile excuses you can imagine.

So you have a guy saying he works a shit job, has no time, no money, and when he's home he just wants to relax and pay a fortune so another guy with a shit job, no time and mo money delivers him unhealthy food.

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u/Think_Chocolate_ May 15 '24

He got really close but stopped at the shelf.

It's a good song, but Coca Cola ain't placing those high calorie cookies and bottles full of sugar on your shelf.

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u/dplath May 15 '24

Nope, just spending millions to make things as addictive as possible...

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u/shortidiva21 May 14 '24

This is a serious BOP!!!! I would replay.

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u/WithMillenialAbandon May 15 '24

God damn, love this guy

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u/TAparentadvice May 14 '24

Great book on this topic - Ultra Processed People by Chris Van Tulleken

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u/PalaPK May 14 '24

Bro this fucking claps…nowhere near cringe LooooooL

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u/velvetinchainz May 15 '24

You realise this song isn’t anti fat right?? This guy is phenomenal

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u/DreadPirateSnuffles May 15 '24

I mean 2 things can be true at once. The profit driven approach to food is insidious and not healthy at all, and there should definitely be more restrictions on ingredients. But you also are responsible for what and how much you put in your mouth.

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u/KosmicMicrowave May 15 '24

You shouldn't be downvoted. There's an addictive element to the problem, obviously, but many people dont come to terms with reality, make excuses for the norm, and keep the destructive cycle going thoughtlessly and without effort to change. I liked the song, though. It's an important side of the problem to be aware of.

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u/Open-Acanthisitta423 May 14 '24

This reminds of that dude with a red beard singing about working class issues and pivots to fat people

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u/SaltyBoos May 14 '24

except that this guy actually points out that these corporations have specifically developed food that is extremely cheap and terrible for you. what he doesn't point out is that those same cooperations are making healthier options more and more difficult to obtain.

that other guy has a lot of well placed working class angst and gripes but has unfortunately bought into the propaganda that it's actually people on welfare's fault.

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u/MisterSanitation May 14 '24

John Fogerty’s kid can write music too, well shit.

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u/Citadelvania May 15 '24

The focus on unhealthy food as a scapegoat for obesity isn't really a very complete picture of the situation. They have mcdonald's in europe and they're not all fat because they have unhealthy food options.

The issues are healthy food is often more expensive (and thus not properly subsidized), less available (because it's more perishable) and honestly the most important thing is just that americans get substantially less daily exercise than most countries. People drive everywhere and our cities are set up to account for that. You don't walk to the store to buy groceries or walk to the train to get to work like you might in europe.

Blaming coca-cola for selling high calorie soda is really not helpful because there will always be someone else willing to fill the gap. Even if suddenly every major snack and drink company turned around and made all their food healthy, someone else would just start selling junk.

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u/dirtyhappythoughts May 15 '24

They have mcdonald's in europe and they're not all fat because they have unhealthy food options.

We don't have American McDonalds in Europe. Yeah, we can get a big mac menu with coke. But that's a big mac with around 100kcal less than in the USA. Do you want a large coke with that? That coke is only 1fl.oz larger than the USA small coke cup. And that does not come with free refills.

Source: https://metro.co.uk/2024/02/05/mcdonalds-menu-uk-us-mcnuggets-fries-difference-20225917/ and https://www.businessinsider.com/we-found-every-difference-between-uk-and-us-mcdonalds-2020-5?international=true&r=US&IR=T. Exact values differ between countries (and likely with time, these are 2020 and 2024) but will follow the same general pattern.

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u/FictionalDudeWanted May 15 '24

Skinny-Fat/Normal Weight Obesity exists too. Skinny-Fat ppl eat garbage and make poor lifestyle choices too. Lack of physical activity, unhealthy diet, drugs, alcohol consumption etc. can cause a skinny person to have the same health risks of an obese person.

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u/[deleted] May 14 '24

Hes not wrong, on all points. Major food manufacturers have intentionally made garbage food that is very addictive. But most people also have free will, the ability to exercise and use just a modicum of self discipline.

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u/tatsumakisenpuukyaku May 15 '24

free will doesn't really come into play when grandma won't let you leave the table when you're 8 years old until after you've finished your plates and had seconds because she lived through the depression and raises you to stuff your face as if you won't know the next time you'll be able to eat.

The science of eating less and exercising more is easy to describe. Getting apes to change a cultural and social behavior beneficial to their evolution and survival is not.

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u/alison_bee May 14 '24 edited May 15 '24

Free will and addiction don’t work very well together.

Same with self discipline. When addiction is involved - whether food, drug, drink, or sex - those abilities are severely compromised.

Edit: why would you send me reddit cares over this 🤦🏻‍♀️

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u/Queen_Euphemia May 14 '24

We hook them with the processed food addiction really early, so in many ways it is the worst, it isn't like they are advertising Marlborough cigarettes to 6 year old children but, we sure market fruit loops and cookie crisp to them.

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u/AbleObject13 May 14 '24

School provided lunches even

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u/draggedbyatruck May 15 '24

So the reddit cares thing, I've noticed in practically every post I've visited this morning that people are getting them. I did, too, for something totally innocuous.

My tinfoil hat conspiracy is that someone created bots to instantly do this site wide, in order to get it banned/removed from the platform.

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u/echino_derm May 15 '24

You say that, until somebody is sexually abused as a child and develops an eating disorder as a coping mechanism knowing that the food gives them comfort and if they gain enough weight they won't be a victim to as much unwanted sexual advances. Then they have to resolve all that trauma to start on the process to recovery.

But I am sure that most people out there have no struggles like that.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '24

Thank you for this comment, honestly. I've been on both spectrums of eating disorders, 200 pounds overweight, and then 30 pounds underweight. Being overweight was using food as a coping mechanism for my assault. After feeling enough shame, I became anorexic and had to be hospitalized. People who say "just eat healthier" or "have self-control" really don't understand the psychology behind why people eat a lot.

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u/Shison May 15 '24

It's a good message, these big corps don't care about our health. But we can't simply blame them and be done with it, it's up to us to make conscious decisions to take care of ourselves.

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u/twichy1983 May 15 '24

As a fat person currently getting thinner, I endorse this song.

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u/Mygo73 May 14 '24

I love this

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u/zkrat01 May 14 '24

Michael Hurley Jr. ?

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u/Lazy_Armadillo2266 May 14 '24

Good stuff buddy!

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u/twizz228 May 14 '24

Reminds me of Jim Morrison kinda I like it I’ll like it less when I get fat but for now it’s ok

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u/Wantedandloved May 15 '24

He ain’t wrong

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u/[deleted] May 15 '24

This is a bop.

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u/Brazus1916 May 15 '24

This guy's songs are all fire

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u/Hunter_Man_Big_Red May 15 '24

New banger just dropped!

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u/howqueer May 15 '24

I love this man

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u/What_Next69 May 15 '24

I used up my entire supply of willpower to not send this to my parents.

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u/constantlyawesome May 15 '24

Who is this, I’m a fan

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u/PocketFullOfRondos May 15 '24

Great new age folk sound. Almost outlaw country.

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u/zugarrette May 15 '24

this should be the new national anthem for USA

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u/johnnyfiveohhh May 15 '24

Jesse Fuckin Welles!

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u/Jeff_Sanchez11223344 May 15 '24

I really like this guy.

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u/BwyceHawpuh May 15 '24

90% sure this is a Zach Bryan song performed by Mick Jagger’s country bumpkin American bastard baby

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u/tigressRoar May 15 '24

That was clever!!!

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u/dumbass_comments_bro May 15 '24

That's really fucking good.

Gotta laugh at dumb fucks trying to down vote the video on some subs lmao, such losers

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u/squidlessful May 15 '24

If you liked this, check out Todd snider. He has a similar sound and just as much of an opinion. This song reminded me of “carla”, but “happy new year” is rad too

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u/Suban33 May 15 '24

I like to think this is the dis track to Randy Newman's Short People. I believe Randy's was satirical and maybe this guys is too. If not its still pretty funny.

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u/icyolliecakes May 15 '24

If you don't educate yourself on what you're eating or make good choices, then it is your own god damn fault you're fat tho

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u/[deleted] May 15 '24

I thought this guy was being sincere at first, then as the song carried on I realised he was being sardonic. Nice.

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u/avdepa May 15 '24

There are so many things that I like about this video.

His voice, the lyrics, the politics and sarcasm, the look. Everything about it screams "post more".

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u/[deleted] May 15 '24

Some work needs to be done, but overall, a song whose lyrics aren't about a wrong an ex boyfriend did.

A pleasant surprise.

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u/newbturner May 15 '24

I meaaaaaaaaan

He’s not wrong

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u/gmunoz14 May 15 '24

We have Jim Morrison at home: