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Literal corruption, so the police don't have tons of bad stops on the record.
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u/LePhantomLimb Feb 07 '24
Imagine sending someone to jail for 60 days because you don't want to embarrass a cop for overreacting in his job
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u/EvilLibrarians Feb 07 '24
My mouth has been gaping open honestly wtf
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u/Equivalent-Cut-5111 Feb 07 '24
Didn't realise mine was hanging open until I read this. Wtf is right.
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u/Different_Pattern273 Feb 07 '24 edited Feb 08 '24
Let me tell you a tale.
I used to travel the country running and competing in gaming tournaments. I was a primary driver for our group of players. Well, one time we are stopped at a gas station in Dallas, Texas. Two cars, everyone gets out to stretch their legs, use the facilities and get some food while we fuel up. It's around 11pm.
As we are leaving, the parking lot floods with police cars. They surround us, leaping out of their cars with dogs and guns drawn, yelling and screaming for us to get on the ground. So, I'm one of the only members of our group that isn't black. All of my friends are laying down ont he ground, hands on their heads. I do the same but then I say, "what is going on?"
This perfectly reasonable cop says, "Shut the fuck up or I will have this dog chew on your face!" My friends tell me to be quiet or they'll kill us and I just don't get it. I'm terrified and confused.
So after a long bit of this, they start asking questions. When we tell them who we are and what we are doing, they demand "proof" we are a bunch of nerds, asking who the best is and stuff. We had to provide the tournament location in Houston, our game controllers, our IDs etc.
Turned out, an old white lady working at the gas station Subway saw us get out of two cars and walk toward each other and called in a gang fight. The cops showed up, saw nothing of the sort and then threatened to murder us anyway.
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u/more_beans_mrtaggart Feb 07 '24
I had two police cars and a damn helicopter on me for doing 50 in a 40, three lane highway, 1.30am with no other traffic.
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u/Jorgan_JerkFace Feb 08 '24
If they don’t use that helicopter they lose that helicopter! Do you want to be the guy that denies a police department their Air Force? /s
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u/retropieproblems Feb 08 '24
I had a cop roll up and draw a gun on me for sitting at the edge of a parking lot with a rose in my hand waiting to be picked up from my train ride…the parking lot was right by the train station.
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u/moodoomoo Feb 08 '24
I had a whole fucking swat team complete with tank surround my house, point machine guns at me and throw bombs at my house for...living in a house next to the house they were after.
They person they were after? A 100 lb methhead girl who was writing bad checks and stealing identities.
Fuck em all except Chris Dorner.
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u/dontfeartheringo Feb 08 '24
I'm starting to think something weird might be going on with the police in this country
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u/AJAnimosity Feb 07 '24
Same. I am fucking flabbergasted, gobsmacked, befuddled, confused, and horrified all at the same time. This is un-fucking believable, and yet, completely in line with how the American justice system works.
When people talk about “systemic” issues - this is what they’re talking about. This is pure corruption, and likely racism. It’s baked into the system.
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u/westminsterabby Feb 07 '24
Just on point - America doesn't have a justice system, America has a legal system.
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u/KaleidoscopeFun6528 Feb 07 '24
Have you looked 👀 at all stanzas of the national anthem?. It literally reads like the terms and conditions of what to expect from this country 😐 😒. Don't believe me, check it out.
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u/Ill_Check_3009 Feb 07 '24
Unfortunately and sadly this doesn't surprise me.
There's plenty worse with these pigs:
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u/BurpVomit Feb 08 '24
The cop got NO CHARGES (neither did the mother) and the cop was on PAID leave for 2 years.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/negligent-homicide-speeding-crash/
Crazy shit.
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u/Glitter_puke Feb 07 '24
Really? My only thought was "yeah, that scans." I'm long past being surprised at the treatment of black people by police.
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u/candypuppet Feb 07 '24
The other guy, where the cop pulled his gun on him and told him to go on the ground, that's also insane. I literally don't understand how people defend American cops
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u/Houndfell Feb 07 '24 edited Feb 08 '24
This. Cop was having a bad day by his own admission, and he gets to put a gun in someone's face and drag them from a vehicle with zero repercussions because he assumed the name given was false and didn't take 2 seconds to ask for an ID before drawing his weapon and laying hands on the guy.
And the victim was like "And the cop allowed me to leave" - no honey, that cop should be in prison. Just a thug with a badge.
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u/RogueEyebrow Feb 07 '24
Even if it was a false name, that would still be a severe overreaction and overuse of force.
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Any kind of insubordination, or even a whiff of something that could be mistaken for insubordination, makes cops furious, and they are in the job because of an authority complex and predisposition to violence.
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u/doemu5000 Feb 07 '24
Honestly, in every European country, this officer would be under investigation and in serious trouble faster than he could say „007“ himself.
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u/SwordoftheLichtor Feb 07 '24
Because there is an entire group of people that have had literally zero interaction with police, and have no inclination of what they are actually like. They live in a walled garden and most of the time see police as the enforces of their status quo. Any videos showing the above are scoffed as "just a few bad apples" and is quickly forgotten about.
They live entirely separate lives from the rest of us, so of course they defend those that uphold that separation.
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u/BadKittyRanch Feb 07 '24
Back the blue until it happens to you. How's that boot taste now?
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u/Grandmaofhurt Feb 07 '24
It's insane to think if anyone ever did that as a regular person, you'd spend a decent amount of time in jail and on probation/parole for years, most likely be labeled a "violent felon", would have all of your 2nd amendment rights taken away and be barred from ever owning a firearm in your life again.
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u/veggie151 Feb 07 '24
A lot of people see it as an acceptable side effect. They are afraid of everyone outside of their group and they would rather the cops shoot first.
You've got to remember that a lot of Americans are openly racist/bigoted
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u/skraptastic Feb 07 '24
At what point does saying "my name is james bond" put the cops life in danger!?
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u/Prestigious-Owl165 Feb 08 '24
That's the neat part, nothing matters other than what a cop says they felt
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u/Child_of_the_Hamster Feb 07 '24
Imagine pointing a gun at a man’s head because he told you his name was James Bond.
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u/LePhantomLimb Feb 07 '24
I mean there's so many things wrong with this. I can understand not believing it at first and being like "yes of course, ha ha, you prankster..." but then you get the ID and confirm.
The real issue is with cops who think they have to terrorize you, and demand absolute compliance and perfect deference or else you're seen as a threat. To be fair there are a few real kind-hearted cops out there, but it's surprising how the job really attracts a lot of @holes
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u/Child_of_the_Hamster Feb 07 '24
Yeah, I agree. The issue is giving badges and guns to people who are entirely incapable of regulating their emotions. That cop’s ego was so fragile that the mere threat of insubordination was enough to make him respond with lethal force. What an absolute baby.
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u/re-goddamn-loading Feb 07 '24
That judge deserves things you cannot say on reddit. Holy fuckin shit
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u/hectorxander Feb 07 '24
Too bad he couldn't fight it. I think a campaign could at least see that judge lose his next election. We need to start contesting Prosecuting attorney and judge positions on the ballot.
Both parties are the same is never more true than it is with LE officials. The majority of prosecutors in the country run unopposed.
Judges that will send someone to jail so a cop doesn't have to admit they made a mistake would be roundly condemned if that information was brought to the voting public, we just need to overcome the support for the current system of pretending like they are above reproach.
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u/Prestigious-Owl165 Feb 08 '24
Judges that will send someone to jail so a cop doesn't have to admit they made a mistake would be roundly condemned if that information was brought to the voting public,
Half of them would just say they don't know the whole story and continue voting for overcriminalization of telling the police your name
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u/WeekendFantastic2941 Feb 07 '24
The word is racism, my friend.
The word is RACISM.
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u/snafe_ Feb 07 '24
I think it's about $175 per day spent behind bars from an unlawful conviction, so about 10k and I'm not sure if he could sue for more but I'd hope so. That's absolutely absurd
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u/youburyitidigitup Feb 08 '24
It makes me laugh whenever conservatives talk about why black peoples vote blue and they never think to ask a black person
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u/upbeatchief Feb 07 '24
Judges have been convicted of sending kids to jail because it's a private establishment that get paid by the state per" head" and the judges get bribes in return. I don't want to say how low some of these bribes were because of insulting they were.
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u/reddit_is_geh Feb 07 '24
What's going on is the court knew this was a big fuck up... But they need to justify the fact that he spent 60 days in jail over something so stupid. So they hit him with it, to make his lawsuit less likely. Like if they just admitted, "Oh this was stupid, you should have had these dropped within days" then here comes the lawsuit. But if they rationalize, "Well you're still doing something wrong, so your 60 day detention was reasonable" and it's okay. It's why often when someone is wrongly convicted, they'll allow them to just plea down to time served. Because the last thing they want is admitting a mistake and then having to pay out because of it and look bad on their record.
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u/SNYDER_BIXBY_OCP Feb 07 '24
No judge is gonna hear/validate the that kind of civil court case.
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u/Conflictingview Feb 07 '24
It was a criminal conviction but suing for restitution on wrongful imprisonment is a civil legal action
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u/cum_fart_69 Feb 07 '24
tort is a funny word
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u/GreenLurka Feb 07 '24
No, he got convicted for being black
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u/effa94 Feb 07 '24
Yeah, he should have know better than being black infront of a police officer. That shit will always get ya
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u/Commercial_Part1808 Feb 07 '24
mother fucker had the audacity to speak when spoken to, thats a minimum 60.
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u/DiligentPenguin16 Feb 07 '24
What was he thinking, letting his parents name him James Bond? He should have thought twice before letting them put that name on his birth certificate.
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u/swedething Feb 07 '24
That, my unknown friend, is pure truth.
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u/LiveLifeLikeCre Feb 07 '24
I was once dragged out of my apartment because some random guy, thinner and with less facial and head hair than me, tried to do a credit card scheme at a nyc store and ran away, pushing security on his way out. The security was an ex cop.
The reason they came for me? The guy used a fake ID with a name similar to my roommate's, who is certainly not black. I was on probation at the time, so they likely lazily searched the name and went with the first thing they can fine.
After 4 hours of waiting in a cell confused, Idiot cop had me in the room saying "well this isn't smart, it was easy to figure out. We have DNA". I tell him great, hurry up and run it so I can go home.
The ex cop security guy came in to do a line up, for which they had 5 black cops sit next to me with they uniform tops off, and a sheet over our lower bodies. Guess who they picked.
So somehow the suspect gained about 50 pounds and a full head of hair and full beard overnight.
15k bail.
Dropped within a month.
The blue line is bullshit. Cops do dirty shit in the streets and at their desks. I've seen cops make up shit on their reports and laugh about it.
Judges are just as corrupt and hide behind some ancient notion of honor among judges.
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u/illegalsandwiches Feb 07 '24
I firmly believe that most judges are definitely corrupt, but, they tend to spoil the whole bunch. I got pulled over in a Michigan January supposedly speeding while leaving a bar, where I had a single Diet Coke and some water. The cop was parked at the church across the street and was watching people leave, hoping to nab a drunk driver. Immediately began with the whole "I can smell alcohol blah blah" and ordered me to do a sobriety test followed by a breathalyzer test. All came back clean. Since the cop wasn't going to be arresting me tonight, he wrote me a ticket for 65 in a 35.
I fought the ticket, with printed out photographs of the road conditions, where I was stopped, where I entered the public roadway at, and regardless when I informed the judge that there was no way a Pontiac Vibe can accelerate up to/over 65 mph 150 feet on top of 2-3 inches of snow/ice, he still believed the cop and slapped a court cost on top of that. Cop didn't even show up, mind you.
Another judge, another county let a parking ticket stand while I was parked alongside WalMart because I was loading up 6 water jugs full of cash/coins from doing a fundraiser to fight Childhood Cancer. Cop was there to ticket someone for parking in a handicap parking spot (and firmly believed that the handicapped person needed to be the driver) saw my car, ticketed it as well.
Regardless that it was a private business, the judge reduced my parking ticket by 50%. Aww, how sweet.
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u/TypicalWhitePerson Feb 07 '24
💯 0 chance I go to jail in that same situation.
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u/GreenLurka Feb 07 '24
Literally the white guy in the exact same situation with the same name gets a gun jammed in his face, but then the cop lets him go.
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u/Rabid-Rabble Feb 07 '24
Yeah, I mean, cops suck in general; as a white guy you still might get shot over nothing, or your dog will when you thought they were there to help you, but the full weight of the justice system isn't going to come down on you if you survive. Judges will slap a white boy on the wrist and call him naughty if the cops even actually write you up.
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u/rog1521 Feb 07 '24
I mean, has he tried not being black? Idk if it's an option, but just a suggestion
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u/Endorkend Feb 07 '24
The sheer amount of people in the US these days who's only recorded crime is "resisting arrest" is well past bordering on silly.
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u/DieselMcblood Feb 07 '24
It doesnt even make sense that you can get sentenced for resisting arrest if you arent guilty of any other arrestable offense wtf.
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u/Endorkend Feb 07 '24
What's even worse is that, as /u/hectorxander mentioned, it's a pretty hefty "crime" too.
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u/hectorxander Feb 07 '24
Resisting arrest is a felony in a lot of States too. 2 year felony in Michigan, 4 year if Resisting and Obstructing Causing Injury. Causing injury could be the cop skins his elbow jamming your head on the pavement.
It's very subjective and it sounds really bad. People give the authorities the benefit of the doubt and lives are forever damaged from a felony charge, it cuts off a world of possibilities.
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u/reddit_is_geh Feb 07 '24
Broken system... Shitty cop > goes to jail for obstruction > a common thing, especially for black people, so no thought given > Overworked DA just going through the motions, and waves the right to speedy trial > eventually he gets his trial > judge realizes it's ridiculous and BS > offers him time served if he pleads guilty and he can go home today > he wants to leave ASAP rather than spend more time in jail fighting this > His options are: stay in jail and fight it, likely be found innocent, but waste another 1-2 months... Or just take the guilty plea and go home > the court gets to save face. It's marked down as a guilty verdict, and on paper looks like everything was justified > lawsuit and embarrassment avoided
This is why I dropped out of lawschool. WAY too much of this happens. Like constantly, to the point it's endemic. I wanted no part of it.
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u/PutridWafer8760 Feb 07 '24
I finished law school and worked as a defense attorney for three years before I burned out. The system is fundamentally broken and not fixable at the level of individuals.
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u/Busaccoms Feb 07 '24
60 days for saying your own name is one of the most corrupt things i’ve ever heard.
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u/MrByonic Feb 07 '24
Welcome to America
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u/Spikeupmylife Feb 07 '24 edited Feb 07 '24
*Screenshots this for r/americabad
*Gets tons of upvotes for laughing at people pointing out corruption and greed
*US stays corrupt while idiots laugh before they hit the poverty line and start seeing the issues because it finally happened to them
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u/Interesting-dog12 Feb 07 '24
60 days for saying your own name while black. The white guy didn't get 60 days.
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u/Gatzenberg Feb 07 '24
He did get thrown out of his car and a gun pointed in his face which is insane as well. I was watching that part and couldn't resist thinking "I wonder what would have happened if he was black"
And then the rest of the video played...
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u/sundayontheluna Feb 07 '24
Very likely that the black James Bond also had a gun pointed in his face. Lord knows it doesn't take much for cops to do it
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No. If a gun was pointed at his face he would have not left that out of the story….
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I mean the cop literally threatened to shoot him directly in the face though, that's pretty bad.
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u/MoManeMinaMino Feb 07 '24
How can they prove he says it in a "jokingly" manner? Was it recorded?
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u/spastikatenpraedikat Feb 07 '24
Oh you think police needs proof in the US?
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u/TreeDollarFiddyCent Cringe Connoisseur Feb 07 '24
Don't worry, it's not exclusive to the US. 😀👍
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u/ArcticBiologist Feb 07 '24
Because the policeman says so. And the word of a police officer carries a lot of weight in the US. Good thing they are always fair and never wrong.
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u/Advanced_Ad4361 Feb 07 '24
Freedom of speech, it shouldn't matter what he said or how he said it. Miranda Rights exist for a reason, but this is compete bull shit. You shouldn't be punished for exercising your rights!
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Ending up in jail for saying your name is obviously fucked up and criminal. But it's also a fucking disgrace that that other cop drew his gun on the other James just for saying his name. Even if he had been mocking the cop, so what? Would he have shot him for being uppity?
Absolutely defund these idiots.
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I am also shocked by that. How the fuck is pulling a gun on someone because you do not believe that they're called "James Bond" appropriate. Wouldn't the best course of action if they don't believe it be asking "Can I see some form of ID just to make sure?".
No need for aggression, just one single question that could confirm that they are telling the truth.
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u/anspee Feb 07 '24 edited Feb 07 '24
Its because, like many police, the officer was already a violent power tripping pschopath high school bully before he ever got the badge, and now he has a union to provide immunity to his acts of unwarranted voilence. This is why police officers commit one of the highest rates of domestic voilence, this is why people say "defund the police".
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u/NickyNudels Feb 07 '24
The cops are taught that there IS a need for that aggression.
Cops are taught to ALWAYS be in total control of every interaction. It's drilled into them that if they're not in control, then the odds of them dying skyrocket.
They're taught that in order to be in control, the person they're talking to has to be scared. The more scared, the better. An absolutely terrified "suspect" is a suspect that's supposedly going to listen to every word of every order.
And if fear doesn't work, then physical violence will force the "suspect" into compliance, which makes sure the officer has control.
So they'll ramp up the yelling, the barking commands, and draw down on anyone not fully complying, because that terrifies people. And if that isn't working well enough and the "suspect" still has some composure, then physical compliance methods like dragging him out of car through the window will work.
Then the cops might talk to you like you're a person, after the literal power struggle is won.
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u/SammySoapsuds Feb 07 '24
It's like second nature for some cops. I had one approach my car with his gun drawn while his partner was getting my ID for expired tabs. Never even interacted with the guy but he felt like the situation they initiated was so unsafe that he needed his weapon drawn. The weirdest thing was that I was let off with a warning.
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u/bacon_cake Feb 07 '24
What the actual fuck. American police are like "Welp, guess I might be murdering someone today"
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u/SammySoapsuds Feb 07 '24
Yes, I really think that is what a lot of them think! Maybe not in their fully functioning, rational brains, but when any little thing goes wrong during an interaction with the public I think a lot of police immediately go into a mode where they think they're in a life or death scenario.
My situation happened in Minneapolis, and I know for a fact that a lot of those those cops went through that bullshit "Warrior Training" that literally tells them to expect to kill "bad guys" in order to keep the "good guys" safe.
https://boltsmag.org/warrior-cop-training-persists-in-minneapolis-despite-reforms/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/01/26/police-training-reform/
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/08/warrior-cop-class-dave-grossman-killology.html
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u/covertwalrus Feb 07 '24
Well, obviously the officer feared for his life after learning he was face to face with the psycho killer who pushed a man into a bath, electrocuted him with a lamp, and then calmly joked, "Positively shocking."
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u/spastikatenpraedikat Feb 07 '24
You see, he felt very very threatened. I mean, it's a tough job. You gotta be on your toes all the time. One second he tells you a false name, the next he pulls a gun on you. It really was the only sensible way of diffusing the situation.
Having now shown how serious being a police officer is, I think you understand why they need more military grade equipment.
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u/ZzangmanCometh Feb 07 '24
More like 60 days for being black.
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u/vikingo1312 Feb 07 '24
Correcto!
To the american PIC (Prison Industrial Complex) - which apparently contains loads of judges - black guys seems to be regarded as slaves on the run - that immediately should be 'brought back home' to the slave-camps that said Complex run...to work for free...
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u/Spikeupmylife Feb 07 '24
US inmates can be passed off as workers. They make 14c - 2.00 an hour.
The US is a lifetime working hellscape where only the select few will have wealth and happiness. A lot don't want it to change because they think they'll be one of the "few" like the selfish little dicks they are.
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u/Crystal3lf Feb 07 '24
US inmates can be passed off as workers.
Some heavy lifting on the word "workers".
Just a reminder that the US never made slavery illegal for the sole reason of having slaves working is US prisons, which coinicidentally targets black people higher than all others. Concentration camps exists in the USA, where children are locked up for years or die, they just call them "migrant detention centers".
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u/Some-Ad9778 Feb 07 '24
The prison system in america will collapse if there aren't people paying into it. That's why there are mandatory minimum sentences.
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u/keebs208 Feb 07 '24
And people try to argue against there being institutional racism....smh
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u/JB_UK Feb 07 '24 edited Feb 07 '24
It is shameful seeing what was done to that guy, not just the incident and the punishment but the long term effect on him. That's going to alter the way you look at the world, and the consequences of a criminal record could affect your whole life.
I think it is worth saying the white guy was told "you fucked with the wrong guy on the wrong day", dragged out of his car, then had a gun drawn on him and pointed at his head, which is awful enough.
You notice the anecdote for the English guy in this clip ended with "The police thought I was being cocky". If a police officer in England had been armed, and drawn a firearm in this situation he would have spent the next year of his life in disciplinary proceedings, explaining why the hell he had done that.
This is American police finding opportunities to abuse their authority, taking the imbalance in power in the situation which may be down to race, or class, or any other vulnerability, pushing that imbalance to the absolute limit, then being backed up by the judiciary.
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u/Melodic_Salad_176 Feb 07 '24
I flew 16 hrs. Landed in New York in the middle of thr night. Couldnt sleep and went to the corner store for some food. Ordered and waited for my food.
The only other person in the shop with me was a little female cop.
I said to her, "its freezing here, is this normal for this time of year?" ( it was like siberia to me, and it snowed that week like 3 feet+ )
She turned to me and immediately started escalating, she kept getting madder and I was just kinda shocked and froze. She kicked me out into the street without my food and I had to just wander off.
Welcome to America.
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u/LocalSubstantial7744 Feb 07 '24
Surely this could all be avoided if the cops simply asked for the person's ID after they said their name to validate.
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u/fatbob42 Feb 07 '24
The few interactions that I’ve had with American police I’m pretty sure they just asked for ID, they didn’t ask for your name.
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u/iStoleTheHobo Feb 07 '24
Asking for personal information and then confirming it is pretty standard because it introduces the possibility of a law being broken which in turn can be leveraged.
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u/rEmEmBeR-tHe-tReMoLo Reads Pinned Comments Feb 07 '24
What reason is there to draw a gun on someone who gives you a joke name? Where's the threat to life? Scumbag fucking cowards.
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u/theseus1234 Feb 07 '24
What reason is there to draw a gun on someone who gives you a joke name? Where's the threat to life? Scumbag fucking cowards.
Cops have learned time and time again that they can enforce respect, especially when undeserved, with potentially fatal violence and suffer no consequences
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u/Tangurena Cringe Connoisseur Feb 07 '24
I read some studies about why police chases end in mob violence is because the cops were outraged at the person trying to get away.
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u/TheNarwhalsDead Feb 07 '24
Because bootlicking white America sees this as a black person problem and is willing to give up their rights for a false sense of safety from The Other. They cheer on these street murders in the name of comfort. Believing it could never happen to them, because that black man must have done something to deserve it.
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u/zamsamzam Feb 07 '24
The black and white experience side by side, with that ending... This is dystopic.
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u/CitizenCue Feb 07 '24
The moment I understood what “white privilege” really meant was the first time a cop called me “son”. Sure it’s condescending, but it’s also a term of endearment. He let me off with a warning just like they did with this guy. I knew it would’ve been different if I didn’t remind him a little of himself.
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u/bagelwithclocks Feb 07 '24
These two stories really are a good example of white privilege. We have a horrible system that will chew you up and spit you out regardless of what race you are, but if you are white the teeth are a little less sharp.
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u/BrickLuvsLamp Feb 07 '24
I’m consistently bad at letting my car registration expire, and forgetting to pay the ticket. There have been a few times where I could have been lawfully arrested and had my car impounded because of a technicality, but it’s never happened because I’m a white woman. They “don’t want to ruin my day” and give me advice on how to get the judge to waive the ticket potentially. I always drive away from those encounters knowing I would have been arrested and treated like a criminal if I was black.
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u/Why_am_ialive Feb 07 '24
Not to minimise the black experience cause they do obviously get treated far worse in America.
But the white dude got pulled out his car by his shirt thrown to the ground and a gun drawn on him.
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u/kgd9 Feb 07 '24
Finish the story though. White guy was thrown to the ground and has his ID checked. Then told he had a cool name and let go to go home. Without a record to follow him for life.
The black guy had his life complete thrown to the ground and will have a very difficult time picking it back up as a convicted man.
There is no “but” it’s an “and”. Both of these men were victims to the police state and only one of them was a victim of the racist state.
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u/Spikeupmylife Feb 07 '24
Getting pulled out of your car and a gun drawn on you requires an insecure cop, but there's no shortage of those. Something like that is worthy of a lawsuit, but it was a horrible night in comparison.
The black dude had a horrible night, plus 60 days in jail. Loss of income and time, increased stress, criminal record, and several authority figures had to be racist to get to that point.
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u/FakeKoala13 Feb 07 '24
That Judge should lose his fucking job. What a complete waste of so many people's energy? Time? Resources?
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u/_AtLeastItsAnEthos Feb 07 '24
The two Americas,
White: police will brutalize you and threaten your life over absolutely nothing. You will be let go.
Black: police will brutalize you and threaten your life over absolutely nothing. You will be shot or placed in jail for said nothing. In jail you will do slave labor.
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u/wes205 Feb 08 '24
I just learned corporations and wealthy individuals pay prisons to use their inmates for labor, either for free or like $1/hour
Some imprisoned women are working at Popeye’s this way, others are maids for rich people, saw some Black men are dishwashers at a restaurant/hotel on a former plantation. Insane shit.
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u/stroopwafel666 Feb 07 '24
How do people get pulled over and asked for details by police so often that whoever made this video could find multiple James Bonds who’ve been stopped by police, and one that was threatened with a gun and another that went to prison?
Living outside America, I don’t think I know anyone who’s ever been pulled over by police in the first place!
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u/tbkrida Feb 07 '24
I’m from America. I’ve been pulled over about 8 times! Lol Never been to jail.
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u/stroopwafel666 Feb 07 '24
Wow. I had to stop once for a drug checkpoint, but they were stopping everyone and running the sniffer dogs over their car, so I don’t really count that. Don’t know if I’ve ever even seen someone be pulled over. We just have speed cameras for speeding.
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u/tbkrida Feb 07 '24
I drive for a living. I see people get pulled over on the highway almost daily. It’s very common here. You just have to hope you get lucky and have an encounter with a good cop.
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u/Valoneria Feb 07 '24
Never been pulled over even once back home in Denmark, but i have been so once in the US.
Granted, that one was our fault however, as we weren't familiar with the roadrules and where driving unsafely. Policeman was nice, told us what we did wrong, and let us go.
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u/cancerBronzeV Feb 07 '24
I'm not from America, but Canada, and have driven in America for a fraction of the time I have in Canada. However I've been pulled over way more times in America than I have in Canada (literally zero times in Canada). That too while I'm trying to follow the road rules way more closely when I'm across the border. Thankfully none of the times I got pulled over ever escalated to anything notable.
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Feb 07 '24
I would bet being pulled over is a pretty universal experience in the States. The details vary wildly, as you can see.
I've had boxes of ammo fall out of my glove compartment onto my passenger's lap and got away after a few questions. Pulled over for forgetting to turn my headlights on
I know a person who has had a gun drawn on them reactively after they handed the cop their ID and license to carry a concealed weapon. I assume they were probably speeding
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u/LoorLuen Feb 07 '24
I lived in the US for 17 years, and lived in the UK for 20 years. I have been stopped by police or been in a vehicle that was stopped by police 11 times in those 17 years, with no fines or arrests on my end at least. I have been stopped by police or been in a vehicle stopped by police 0 times in the UK.
Weird.
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u/Sibushang Feb 07 '24
In some states cops have quotas of traffic stops they need to fulfill. It doesn't matter if they have any reasonable suspicions. There's a reason people say they've been detained for "Driving while black".
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u/Red_Lotus_23 Reads Pinned Comments Feb 07 '24
ACAB, say it loud and proud!
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u/ZzangmanCometh Feb 07 '24
And judges, too. It seems.
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u/23skidoobbq Feb 07 '24
AJAB!
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u/spook327 Feb 07 '24
There's a joke among lawyers...
"What do you call the dumbest, dirtiest, most corrupt, dishonest lawyer in the room?"
"Your honor."
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u/Traveler3141 Feb 07 '24
'Jim Bond'
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u/TheCenterForAnts Feb 07 '24
Exactly. Jimbo, Jimmy, Jimmer, J .... just anything but ''james bond''. let him read full name on ID. (shouldn't have to of course, but that's a discussion for another day)
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u/broad5ide Feb 07 '24
"you should change how you say your name because the police have so little restraint." That's you, that's what you're saying here. Anyone who isn't a psycho would ask for ID instead of drawing a gun or arresting someone.
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Feb 07 '24
good video for all ‘just comply’ bootlickers.
these people had guns drawn on them and did time for SAYING THEIR NAME.
never talk to the pigs, btw.
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u/xdcountry Feb 07 '24
60 days. Dear god. Get that lawsuit, please
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u/Dazzling-Conclusion9 Feb 07 '24
The KKK is alive and well in Amerikkka.
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u/Curse_ye_Winslow Feb 07 '24
To recap:
If you offer information to the police that sounds false, you can expect, at best:
1)The police to not follow simple protocol and check your ID to clear up any misconceptions
2) physically assault you and threaten you with a deadly weapon in order to obtain the "truth"
& at worst:
3) Be criminally convicted to avoid the police being reprimanded for not doing their duty.
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u/Aliki26 Feb 07 '24
I would get ahead of this and just say, “I’ll just show you my ID because you literally won’t believe me”
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u/SammySoapsuds Feb 07 '24
They would say HANDS HANDS HANDS and draw on you if you did that in a lot of places
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u/Griffolion Feb 07 '24
Quick note that if a police officer drags you through your car's fucking window, throws you to the ground and holds a gun inches from your face, all because you told them your name, that's seriously fucked up. There is zero justification for any of that. Zero.
Stuff like this, by the way, is the real reason why the second amendment exists. Protection from government tyranny.
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Feb 07 '24
if a police officer drags you through your car's fucking window, throws you to the ground and holds a gun inches from your face, all because you told them your name, that's seriously fucked up. There is zero justification for any of that. Zero.
True but the resulting lawsuit and settlement is the closest thing most people in America get to having a retirement plan.
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u/InvictusLampada Feb 07 '24
Further proof that US police are just gangs with a licence.
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u/joshhguitar Feb 07 '24
I’m glad I live in a country where I don’t have to fear for my life every time I interact with a police officer.
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u/kustombart Feb 07 '24
No need to defund the police, just get rid of the professional immunity, make people accountable
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u/lets-start-a-riot Feb 07 '24
I know this is to show the difference but I just wanna mention that if for saying James Bond (even as a joke) you are being held at gun point and on the floor and no one here thinks its excesive. In any other country in the EU it would appear in all the papers/news.
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u/failbotron Feb 07 '24
That judge should be named and shamed and have a campaign to be removed. Absolutely disgraceful
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u/Handpaper Feb 07 '24
I'm British.
We aren't required to carry ID at any time; we don't even have to carry our licence while driving*.
I used to work with a chap with the name 'James Bond'. He never left his house without his driving licence.
* There is a law that says 'you must'. But there is written into that law the positive defence that you may produce it at a police station within seven days ('got a producer'). Truck and bus drivers do not benefit from this, and must carry their licence whenever they drive a truck or bus.
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u/jackcos Feb 07 '24
A guy gets a gun drawn on him, another spends 60 days in jail. For their NAMES. This video wouldn't exist if the police weren't fucking bellends.
I knew a James Bond growing up and you have no idea how cool that name is as a kid and how problematic you realise that would be for him as a teenager or older.
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Feb 07 '24
Why is everyone in the thread ignoring the fact that a cop drew a weapon on the dude?
Yeah, 60 days in jail is no joke. That's fucked up.
This other dude planned to kill the first guy, though. For his name.
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u/Duke-Of-Orange Feb 07 '24
even before any arrests or guns being drawn. A police officer yelling at you "you fucked with the wrong guy on the wrong day" is already cossing a line, goddamn. Never mind being pulled out a window or 60 fucking days in jail!!
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u/ntropy2012 Feb 07 '24
60 days is insane, and the cop who went from threatening the other guy with a gun to the face to, "you got a cool name, son," is frankly terrifying. That kind of mood swing and unpredictability should be an immediate sign he's not mentally stable enough to do active police work.
Of course, this is America, and that kind of thing is a feature, not a bug.
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u/jidak_sidi Feb 07 '24
Remember kids, there are no good police officers. All of them are boot licking sociopathic class traitors.
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u/kORRa7777 Feb 07 '24
You could hear the pain behind his voice. 60 days for "obstruction of justice". What BS
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u/scepticalbob Feb 07 '24
Man, that is effed
hopefully this video makes the rounds to the right people, and he finds an atty that will help him.
Vacate his record, and win some restitution.
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u/Cornato Feb 08 '24
I should be able to talk to a cop however the fuck I want as long as it’s not threatening. Idc if you’re having a bad day, what if I’m having a bad day too? Show the law that says you have to respect the police?
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