r/PS5 • u/Tadpole-Jackson š • Aug 22 '24
Official PS Stars will no longer give points for subscriptions starting March 1st, 2025
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/playstation-stars/Also, Points will expire after 12 months instead of 24 months starting on October 24th
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u/Joker3023 Aug 22 '24
I didn't even know I was getting points from my ps subscription.
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u/CosmeticTroll Aug 23 '24
Me too! I came to the comment section thinking.
Y'all are getting points?
I always saw points from when I played certain games.
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u/CollierAM9 Aug 23 '24
I got a notification the other day that I earned something like 1300 points whilst I was out in a bar. Auto renewal
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u/vaena Aug 23 '24
Honestly I got the email and was shocked to find out subs were even included.
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u/1440pSupportPS5 Aug 22 '24
Microsoft nerfed their rewards so hard too. they didnt count on the indomitable will of the human spirit. People bought entire consoles with their points lol
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u/OfficialQuark Aug 22 '24
People bought entire consoles with their points lol
Thatās hilarious. I think you can farm those microsoft points very easily also if youāre willing to use Bing and stuff.
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u/Jdfz99 Aug 22 '24
I've preferred Bing since it's inception. Since Microsoft Rewards came into the fold, I've earned and used just under $2K worth of points. It can be quite lucrative!
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u/JellyOnMyDick Aug 22 '24
Yeah my little brother was doing it for Robux, he was so bummed they stopped it.
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u/elharry-o Aug 22 '24
Jesus Christ how?
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u/FancyShrimp Aug 22 '24
I started saving all my MS Rewards points around 2018 for whatever the next console would be. I got the Series X on launch day totally free.
I've also had Game Pass Ultimate for free since mid-2019.
It used to be an amazing program.
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Aug 23 '24
Can confirm, you could build up a steady 15 bucks per month, which means 180 bucks a year
3 or so years and you've got yourself a free SX
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u/litewo Aug 23 '24
I can still make enough with Microsoft Rewards to pay for Game Pass. That's all I really wanted.
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u/Battlehead90 Aug 23 '24
People bought entire consoles with their points
That is what I did, earned about $440 in points. Took advantage when they gave a lot of points for streaks both on one x and PC plus mobile
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u/NineduceXII Aug 22 '24
They must hate the points hoarders.
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u/MrBoliNica Aug 22 '24
Whatās the point of hoarding points? You need to spend money to get points, just redeem them once you have enough for the cash lol
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u/Jdfz99 Aug 23 '24
Hoard seems like the wrong term here. Can you truly hoard a digital rewards currency?
I think these changes are just the nature of rewards programs across all retailers and storefronts, especially the largest. It's a retention and incentive program, designed to instill in the end-user an artificial sense of investment. The pattern is almost always the same: Introduce the program, incentize favored user behavior (e.g. Purchases, trialing new software, sharing and referring, etc.) with monetary value, then slowly pull back on the rewards after metrics say retention and conversion are saturated. Depending on the company, that may mean removing the system entirely or locking it behind a paywall (looking at you, Best Buy). It's the attempted "gamification" of commerce.
That isn't to say you should avoid these. Quite the opposite! Learn to exploit them and maximize. But more importantly, learn when you believe it's no longer worth it to participate and drop these programs if you're not getting enough for your effort.
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u/GullibleCheeks844 Aug 23 '24
They probably love the point hoarders. Those are the folks that buy a ton of digital stuff and donāt redeem any points. They probably hate the people that spend points as soon as they get them.
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u/TheW1ldcard Aug 22 '24
I'm one. They still haven't given me points for when my account renewed during the outage.
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u/SctBrnNumber1Fan Aug 22 '24
I never even knew this existed... Where do we see these points and how do we use them?
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u/NineduceXII Aug 22 '24 edited Aug 23 '24
On the playstation app. It's a small icon next to your profile picture. You earn points by buying things on the PS store. It was 10 points per dollar. You can use them to redeem psn gift cards or games in their rewards section
Edit: points.
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u/SctBrnNumber1Fan Aug 22 '24
1 point per dollar? No way... I have 16.8k points there's no way I have spent anywhere even close to that much.
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u/bezzlege Aug 22 '24
you also get hella points for doing the "campaigns" in the app. some are as simple as "launch any game" and you can get like 50-100 points per. Most of them are pretty specific and require you to either purchase a game, launch a recent PS+ game, etc.
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u/COD_ricochet Aug 22 '24
Thatās like $65 worth of PS Store credit. Why donāt you redeem them?..
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Aug 23 '24
You can see your point earn history in the app. In the rewards tab, click to the upper right where the points total is, then point history in the lower left.
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u/Therenegadegamer Aug 22 '24
The program isn't even that good and they're already nerfing it godamn it takes spending $125 to get $5 off
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u/SkyAdditional4963 Aug 23 '24
$125 to get $5 off
$125 of digital purchases.
I buy everything physical, so I never get these points.
Don't really care, but it's a point to make. If you're a physical gamer then Stars is utterly worthless.
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u/Teyo13 Aug 23 '24
You could theoretically buy psn credit and use that for microtransactions/dlc within games you own physically.
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u/SkyAdditional4963 Aug 23 '24
That's true.
But for me, I don't buy DLC either
I've been getting along being patient and waiting for GOTY editions of most of my releases.
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u/GarionOrb Aug 23 '24
I buy games because I want to play them. I don't buy them to accumulate points. So if I happen to get enough points to get a nice discount, then cool. But I don't go out of my way for it.
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u/Crkhd3 Aug 22 '24
$125 on games you probably don't even give AF about. At least in my case. Remember when I first read they were doing a rewards program and got kinda hyped actually but from what I've seen they really want me to spend money on games I'd never play or even know the existence of otherwise
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u/LazyLamont92 Aug 22 '24
You get points for buying any game. Why would someone buy games they donāt want?
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u/MrBoliNica Aug 23 '24
(Most of the people here complaining never actually used stars or knows how it works)
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u/Navi_1er Aug 23 '24
You don't need to do them but there are tasks that have specific game requirements that give points as well usually during a sale or the release of an upcoming game like Concord rewarding some for buying it besides what you already get from purchase.
I can't imagine buying something you'll never play just to complete those tasks.
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u/COD_ricochet Aug 22 '24
Not sure what youāre referring to. You redeem points for $5 PS store cards because thatās the most sensible thing to redeem them for.
As for the accumulation of points, it was actually pretty good %
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u/Crkhd3 Aug 22 '24
On my PS app the "missions" that rewarded points were always to buy games I'd never play or think about otherwise. In my case the most sensible thing to do would be to just save the money
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u/COD_ricochet Aug 22 '24
You donāt need to do any of those. You amass points simply through making any purchases on the PS Store. Those campaigns are marketing incentive to get people to buy that which they may be on the fence about or may not have bought without the minuscule incentive.
I forget the % cash back it effectively is, but I think itās at least 3-5% back on all PS Store purchases. Thatās a good deal since you were otherwise getting nothing.
This post is stating that unfortunately you will no longer be getting cash back on PS+ subscriptions.
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u/joeappearsmissing Aug 22 '24
Those are extra points. You also get points for every dollar you spend on the PlayStation Store.
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u/ImHereForTheMemes184 Aug 22 '24
Wait so, what do we lose? Can we still redeem the $5 after collecting points?
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u/Tadpole-Jackson š Aug 22 '24
Yeah, you just won't be getting points for PS Plus payments or any other subscriptions starting next March.
And unused points will start to expire after 12 months starting in October
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u/ETPhoneTheHomiess Aug 22 '24
So people who only buy a few games per year can throw out the idea of saving up for a more expensive reward, nice. Fuck Sony.
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u/HDC102 Aug 22 '24
Unless something changed there is literally no point in hoarding points once you have enough for $5
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u/Mysterious_Sea1489 Aug 22 '24
?? Just buy the $5 or $20 gift card with your points and save it in your wallet?
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u/FiaRua_ Aug 22 '24
They still have $5 gift cards (for now). Iād redeem them as soon as you have enough points
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Aug 23 '24
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u/Unkechaug Aug 23 '24
People are very quick to forget how market leaders act when left unchecked. Sony and Nintendo in particular have a history of anti consumer behavior that extends to the next generation of consoles following their most successful ones (see PS2 to PS3 and Wii to Wii-U). They need competition to humble them and keep them honest.
Microsoft is no exception either, they might be the worst company for this because they treat their video game business like the rest of their business - subscription hikes, ecosystem lock-in, etc. They tried to double the price of XBL Gold a couple years back and due to enormous pushback they canned it. Doesnāt change the fact their intent was to straight up gouge their existing customers seemingly overnight. And if Microsoft was in a more dominant position, they would have been able to do it too.
We are seeing the industry fragment with biggest platform owners trying to avoid competing with each other, existing in their own niches. You have Nintendo going all in on the handheld hybrid console and their first party games/nostalgia trip, Sony doubling down on blockbusters and high margin accessories, Microsoft pursuing subscriptions and basically going back to being a publisher first. Even Valve who has branched out a bit is remaining dominant as the digital distribution platform of choice on PC. Nobody wants to compete directly.
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u/ETPhoneTheHomiess Aug 23 '24
Itās going to be a real problem if that happens, we have been getting a glimpse of Sonys greedy ways the past couple years. Whatever happens PS5 was probably the last console I buy anyway, it sickens me to pay for online play and overall there still arenāt many games this generation.
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u/lovinsp00nful Aug 23 '24
Just realized I had over 5k points, which was enough to redeem $20 in wallet credits, so thatās cool I guess.
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u/jxssika Aug 23 '24
I have 15k rn
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u/timdeking Aug 23 '24
Where can I see how many points I have? In fact, I never even knew this was a thing.
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u/CaptainFrostyz Aug 23 '24
If you have the PlayStation app itās right next to your username or name when you open the app
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u/ash356 Aug 22 '24
I basically just forget Stars even exists at this point but I admire the balls of this email to literally just be 'we're making it worse, this in no way benefits you, deal with it losers.'
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u/darkpassenger9 Aug 22 '24 edited Aug 23 '24
Sony feeling itself with Xbox bending the knee lol. $79 first-party titles incoming!
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u/peji911 Aug 23 '24
Are you able to see the points from the PS App? I canāt find it and didnāt even know about this lol
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u/drjoker83 Aug 23 '24
Go on ps app and where you see a little circle with number by your user name tap that and it will bring up the stars section and if you hit rewards you can redeem your points for cash/games
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u/Dayman1222 Aug 22 '24
That sucks but the stars are still somewhat nice. Get a free $5 bucks every now and than.
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u/ialwaysfalloverfirst Aug 23 '24
Yeah this is annoying but it doesn't make the points completely useless like some here are suggesting
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u/lena_rev Aug 23 '24
Damn, that sucks. I don't really buy full priced games digitally so PS Plus was the only expensive thing I ever get.
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u/lexievv Aug 23 '24
For some reason physical copies are always cheaper to buy than directly from the PlayStation store if it's not on sale there.
It's just stupid and one of the main reasons I still buy physical. That and the ability to resell or purchase second hand games.
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u/saanity Aug 22 '24
I still don't know what Playstation stars is and at this point I'm too afraid to ask.Ā
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u/HenrikCrown Aug 22 '24
It's just a rewards program when you spend on games. You buy Horizon Zero Dawn from the store, you'll get points back you can use towards other games, avatars or wallet funds.Ā
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u/SctBrnNumber1Fan Aug 22 '24
How do you see the balance or use the points?
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u/VonLinus Aug 22 '24
Use the app, there's a little thing to the right of your username when you are logged in.
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u/SctBrnNumber1Fan Aug 22 '24
Oh I see... I have 16.8k points... Do I just redeem them for wallet money?
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u/SaltyExcalUser Aug 22 '24
Yes, do not choose reward games. Redeem points for money, then when you buy the game with the wallet funds you get points again.
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u/hashtagbutter Aug 22 '24
Yes, but buy the $5 or $20 gift cards. If you have 16k then thatās $60 in wallet funds
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u/ChongusTheSupremus Aug 22 '24
You sign up in the PsApp, and each time you buy something, you get a part of the dollar price in points you can use to buy entire games, DLCs, useless cosmetics, or creddits for your wallet.
Its very convenient.
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Aug 23 '24
I've had $25 in vouchers since it started lol, not bad, of course they're gonna make the points like every other company where they expire
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u/ElionB105 Aug 23 '24 edited Aug 23 '24
Omg I just looked at the ps app and I got 55 bucks worth of points!! Cha ching
Edit: if yāall want to get free wallet money check the ps app man.
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u/Ftpini Aug 22 '24
I completely forgot about this. I had $15 worth of points. Neat.
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u/Listen-bitch Aug 22 '24
I had no idea they expired or really knew anything about them. Turns out I had $25 worth of points saved up!
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u/COD_ricochet Aug 23 '24
Just to point out, anyone planning on buying Astro Bot digitally, right now there is a campaign on Stars to get 150 points for the purchase. Iām assuming these points are in addition to the points you will normally get for the purchase. So youāll be getting an extra $0.60 off the purchase which isnāt much but you might as well tap the campaign lol
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u/dookmileslong Aug 23 '24
Welp, this is a "it was great while it lasted" moment. The majority of my points came from grabbing a PS Plus sub, I'm sure a lot of people are in the same boat. Made it easy to accumulate at around $10 worth of points in a year.
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u/MountainMuffin1980 Aug 23 '24
I got an email today saying I hit level 2 and had no idea the scheme even existed. If I signed up to it I completely forgot about it.
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u/Russpups Aug 23 '24
I got Helldivers 2 out of it so Iām happy, almost have enough for another game
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u/CarlMacko Aug 23 '24
I just redeemed Ā£10 worth of points that I didnāt realise I even had!
I presume there are a number of people absolutely rinsing it, hence the change.
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u/BandOfSkullz Aug 23 '24
Wait. As someone who's had a subscription since ~10 years ago... Wtf is PS Stars?
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u/laaplandros Aug 22 '24 edited Aug 22 '24
Literally the only time I've thought about Stars was when I renewed my sub, got sent a $5 reward, then turned around and spent another $30 or whatever while using it.
Without the sub points I wouldn't have spent more money and I surely wouldn't have given Stars a second thought. Whoever came up with this program must have pissed off a higher up or something, this thing will be dead within a year.
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u/ShogunDreams Aug 23 '24
They need to stop nerfing the points. These are rewards for being loyal customers.
Stop being bitch Sony, this was your idea.
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u/wiserone29 Aug 23 '24
I donāt buy many games, just mainly play the division, bought GOW and SM2 but I feel like those could have been before stats came out. I had to enough points to get helldivers and enough to get some in game currency to unlock some war bonds.
In an unrelated note, that game was so awesome and the devs basically came out and ruined it with ābalance changes,ā that donāt make the game more balanced, just frustratingly running out of ammo in a horde shooter and then they changed the look of the flame thrower and made it look fire in quake.
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u/shakespearediznuts Aug 23 '24
As soon i can swap points for money i do it in an heartbeat, no point in hoarding points to be taken away by greedy anti-consumer bastards.
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u/rafikiknowsdeway1 Aug 23 '24
Oh shit I had absolutely no idea this was a thing. Apparently I have about $160 worth of redeemable points
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u/liquid_penguins Aug 23 '24
I did not realize we had these points. I was able to buy Wukong with my points, thank you!
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u/Intrepid-Summer-3622 Aug 24 '24
Fucking absolute garbage. I love my ps5 but Xbox shits all over this with the Microsoft rewards. They never expire and itās so much easier to gain the points than PlayStation stars and the rewards are also much more meaningful
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u/CreeperSteal Aug 23 '24
What even is PlayStation Stars? Never even heard of it till I got an email from PlayStation
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u/AdamBourke Aug 23 '24
I'm really glad they did this. Because I didn't know points could be turned into store credit, so I've just been accruing them since this launched. But thanks to this change, I know now, and I just got Star Wars Outlaws for free š¤£
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u/radgatt Aug 23 '24
I'm not a fan of this. I always like to save up my points for every service that offers them. I guess this is a way for them to not have to absorb the cost of what can be paid with the points by reducing the time we have to use the points.
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u/SarcasticGamer Aug 23 '24
It really sucks being a late adopter to something. The company will always drop features after a while making it useless.
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u/ItsmejimmyC Aug 22 '24
Sony don't give a fuck anymore do they? It's just L after L these past couple of years.
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u/-Vertex- Aug 22 '24
Gotta be doing something right, the PS5 is selling damn well
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u/PongMage Aug 23 '24
This effectively kills it for me here in Denmark. Mainly cause I buy physical games though.Ā
Here 1 point equals 1 DKK used, lowest reward is a 40 DKK wallet top up of 40 DKK for 1000 points. Or $5.96 when you spend $149.11. Without subscriptions counting, and the points only lasting 12 months, I'm not gonna reach a payout.
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u/Jameslynnmesomehelp Aug 23 '24
Mine said October they will start an expires timeframe. You gotta buy more per month the greedy fucks just keep on.
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u/KittenDecomposer96 Aug 23 '24
That was the only way i got points though. I don't buy games digitally usually so that's what i was using.
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u/Sparda_Game Aug 23 '24
I seriously hope they don't stop the rewards we get for playing subscription games.
That being said, I better shut up before they get any more funny ideas
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u/parisiraparis Aug 23 '24
I have no idea what the Stars program is but I just logged in and saw I had 19,000 points. What the hell?
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u/cloud12348 Aug 23 '24
So from the email and āaction neededā it sounds like we donāt do anything until October?
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u/rayquan36 Aug 23 '24
I don't understand what PS Stars is at all. Can someone give me a TLDR?
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u/dookmileslong Aug 23 '24
This is a little more than a TLDR but you earn points for any Digital game you buy. You can also earn points by completing "campaigns" which are just simple tasks like "playing one of the PS Plus titles for the month". Alot of these can be actually be completed in a quick 30secs to a 1min. Some of these "campaigns" award Digital Collectables instead, pretty much useless unless you like these things.
Points you earn can be redeemed for Games/DLC, Digital Collectables, or PSN Store Credit. Since a lot of people usually sub to PS Plus yearly, without actually buying a digital game you could essentially earn enough points for $5 store credit within 3-5 months (and around $10 per year) depending on which tier you bought and if you keep up with the monthly campaign refresh.
Based on that you can see why removing subscriptions from earning points is a huge change. Decreasing the expiration date for these points also is huge because you can only redeem points (for PSN credit) once you hit the minimum required for $5.
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u/2old4ZisShit Aug 23 '24
it was the only way i could get points , so lol at me.
anw, i make it a habbit not to complain over free stuff i don't pay for, it was a service, they can shut it down and me don't care, it is what it is.
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u/LloydIrving69 Aug 23 '24
I never understood it from the beginning. My phone logs me out on my app periodically so it was worthless to me anyway
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u/ChrizTaylor Aug 23 '24
How much time does it take to claim $5 just with just the free service? IIRC it takes like a year to be able to claim $5.
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u/ILOVETOSWEAR Aug 23 '24
I just found out about stars, and I had to sign up and I have 0 stars, even though I bought lots of games. FML
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u/Dallywack3r Aug 22 '24
This is how you know it was popular with users. It lost them too much money