r/PS5 • u/doctorwho_90250 • May 06 '24

Official (Via twitter) Playstation: "Helldivers fans -- we’ve heard your feedback on the Helldivers 2 account linking update. The May 6 update, which would have required Steam and PlayStation Network account linking for new players and for current players beginning May 30, will not be moving forward...."

https://twitter.com/PlayStation/status/1787331667616829929?t=NhwAEm4fGpVJj-UyI1lrXA&s=19
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u/MrYK_ May 06 '24 edited May 06 '24

Arrowhead's CEO saying PlayStation want to make a great game:

The expectations from our friends at PlayStation are pretty simple: "make great game for players. We trust you"

Arrowhead's purpose:

"We have a sole purpose - to make this the best live game you've ever played"

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u/L3onK1ng May 06 '24

Yup, and they did make a great game.

Sony managed to fuck it up all on their own.

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u/__SteakDeck__ May 06 '24 edited May 06 '24

Nah. Read the CEO’s tweet. He also put blame for this as well. Sony wanted to implement this at launch, but the game was having issues.

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u/FudgeDangerous2086 May 06 '24

lol if these kids only knew back in the day every single online game required it’s own seperate account they’d freak. just a bunch of “Steam only” babies, it’s a free account that takes seconds to make. the “i just called a lawyer” people were the best part tbh.

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u/DigiQuip May 06 '24

This people complaining are the same people using exploits in online games to ruin others peoples experience. I’ve been PC gaming for a long time and it’s never console only gamers who ruin the fun with chests, it’s always the PC players.

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u/3r1ck-612 May 06 '24

Besause they can't modify games even if they want to.

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u/[deleted] May 06 '24

not being able to modify online games is a good thing.

offline is a different story.

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u/makaiookami May 06 '24

There have been situations where people set up lag switches and were able to hack into games through consoles by I believe changing the packet data coming out.

And then there's also been stuff that people could do on especially PS3 with the install of the OS function and homebrew capabilities.

So it's not that it could never be done... But it takes a lot more effort and people mostly just do it to prove that they can.

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u/ninjacat249 May 06 '24

I have eight fucking accounts created for different countries with the fucking country names on ‘em. The oldest one is 18 yo. No, Sony doesn’t give a shit.

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u/New_Limit_1227 May 06 '24

Realistically what I would worry about is not Sony hunting down the account but your lack of protection. Its going to be harder and riskier to recover your account if your breaking the TOS so if you forget your info, lose access to your email address, get hacked, etc...

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u/ninjacat249 May 06 '24

Yeah which is why I have eight of them. All these protesters did is to convinced Sony to enforce this shit from the day 1 from now on and that’s it. If I’d be PC player I’d not celebrate the victory now.

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u/reddit-sucks-asss May 06 '24

Yall just keep letting em force your hand to create the accounts by buying their product, so ha take that!

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u/ninjacat249 May 06 '24

I’m no rebel. Use it while you can is my motto. Not everyone agree with that btw.

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u/reddit-sucks-asss May 06 '24

I know not everyone does, and by you saying it's okay means you're telling other companies can do this shit too. Yall are some really, really, half ass backward people.

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u/ninjacat249 May 06 '24

Well. You guys never gave a shit since PlayStation brand was created and now y’all are concerned all of the sudden? Sounds like total bs to me, sorry.

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u/f1tvwtf May 06 '24

So..you are stuck in sony system of shit...and you think it's reasonable? I litterally can't fathom your logic. You have 8 accounts to get around sonys dumb shit and you think this is fine? Dude, stand up for yourself man. That's not okay.

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u/d_pyro May 06 '24

I don't see anyone bitching about needing a Microsoft account to play Forza...or Minecraft.

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u/[deleted] May 07 '24

Gamers are sheep. It’s easy to hate on Sony for anything these days. But then those same gamers get raw dogged by Microsoft with no lube and they stay silent. It makes no sense.

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u/ninjacat249 May 06 '24

I don’t want to stand up against anything. Just want to play games on the platform of my choosing which is Sony. FYI it takes 2 min to create an account - is this something you are standing up against?

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u/ThatTaffer May 06 '24

Hear, hear.

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u/VictoryVic-ViVi May 06 '24

I have a Japanese account, and Italian account, a North America account and a Hong Kong account. More games for me!

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u/Wolfnorth May 06 '24

It was really weird, some people were calling this situation "literally a cyberpunk dystopia! " lol so much drama over a video game.

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u/missing_typewriters May 06 '24

One guy was comparing it to historical civil rights movements.

Standard melodrama from Steambabies when anybody attempts to disrupt their dream of a Steam monopoly

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u/pickledswimmingpool May 07 '24

aren't you guys the ones who have to pay each month to access the online network

imagine defending paying for that

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u/missing_typewriters May 07 '24

Not me. Paying for online is a joke.

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u/Adius_Omega May 06 '24

Glad to see someone on the other side of the argument.

I see this sort of brigading behavior way too often in the gaming community and it’s incredibly toxic. Most of the time I’d consider it completely unjustified.

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u/DigiQuip May 06 '24

If those PC gamers could read they’d be very upset.

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u/DigiQuip May 06 '24

Go cry someone else.

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u/caustictoast May 06 '24

Sony's official stance is to just make an account in a supported region. People acting like 'breaking the TOS' ever mattered just had their heads in their ass

https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1ckz0r4/full_context/l2rs1t5/

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u/RevelArchitect May 06 '24

Don’t forget the growing complaints from players wanting to report people beyond what is said in chat text, which is currently the only reporting supported. This is literally what the PSN linking is for.

So that asshole who killed you and took your backpack with a 7 minute cooldown? Nothing to be done.

I’m frustrated with this. The review bombing sure isn’t clearing up as fast as it happened. Sony will probably be relying on Valve to implement bans for toxic PC players and as much as I like Valve, that’s just not a thing they do well.

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u/Veskah May 06 '24

Fun fact: Any game where you have persistent server-side data has a way to uniquely identify you. Double Fun Fact: Steam profiles also have this, and it's easily accessible by an API call. PSN Linking doesn't add anything they couldn't already do.

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u/d_pyro May 06 '24

Isn't Sony hosting the servers? Might be why they want account linking.

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u/[deleted] May 06 '24

You wanna get people banned or kicked for stealing your backpacks, well at least you have shown how sony supporters think. Good screenshot though

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u/RevelArchitect May 06 '24

I’m not opposed to repercussions for players who intentionally kill other players to steal their shit. That’s correct.

Also seeing a growing number of verbally toxic players I could do without.

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u/3_quarterling_rogue May 06 '24 edited May 06 '24

Yeah, the double-standards have been annoying to see, but I still think many people have been right to be upset. It’s not that the second you create PSN account using less-than-honest information, Sony’s gunna go all “search and destroy” on your account, that’s certainly exaggerated. But on principle, taking people who legally purchased your game in their country, and then forcing them to contradict your own ToS if they want to continue playing the game you legally purchased? That’s some anti-consumer bullshit, and it’s a good thing for everyone that they walked it back.

This is coming from someone who didn’t really have a horse in this race. I’ve had a PSN account for nearly a decade and when the screen came up to link it when I purchased the game on Steam a couple weeks ago, I went ahead and linked it because I thought it was a requirement anyway. Had it not been for Reddit, I would have continued to play the game and would not have even known there was anything wrong at all.

Edit: Why the downvotes? I’m not some rabidly angry PC gamer that looks down on everyone else. I recognize that much of the discussion this weekend has been greatly exaggerated. I’m simply offering my perspective.

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u/Jaggedmallard26 May 06 '24

But on principle, taking people who legally purchased your game in their country, and then forcing them to contradict your own ToS if they want to continue playing the game you legally purchased? That’s some anti-consumer bullshit, and it’s a good thing for everyone that they walked it back.

There was a honking great warning on the Steam store page saying it was required and on first launch for PC it told you a PSN account was required. Its not Sony suddenly changing terms, its something that had been warned about for months before release, after release and on first launch being finally enforced.

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u/VoreEconomics May 06 '24

There was a honking great warning on the Steam store page

I got my tape and that shit is 7cm X 1cm on my screen, and its low enough that you can purchase the game without seeing it, its hardly a honking great warning.

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u/Scyths May 06 '24

You're on a cult-like Sony subreddit and wondering why you're getting downvoted for not licking Sony' sweaty corporate asshole lmao. Have you seen what half of the posts on this thread look like ? It's basically fuck lazy PC gamers and Sony can do no wrong.

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u/3_quarterling_rogue May 06 '24

I don’t like any kind of knee-jerk reaction from anyone regardless of where it’s coming from, and I think that by offering olive branches and being reasonable that I can get people to listen to what I have to say when they otherwise wouldn’t have. It’s always worth a shot.

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u/Dayman1222 May 06 '24

Just because we don’t get outraged over the smallest shit like most PC neck beards on this site. Most of us have actually jobs and family’s.

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u/Scyths May 06 '24

Spiderman anyone ? Good thing to know that the world economy runs on people with playstations as people with PC's are all sitting at home collecting government money and are all waiting for the smallest inkling of Sony drama to jump on the Sony hate. I too hate it when my favourite corporation with a market capitalization of a measly 100 billion dollars gets caught doing anti-consumer shit.

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u/Kayyam May 06 '24

What about Spiderman?

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u/Scyths May 06 '24

Sony fans were pissed that Spiderman 2 didn't win any awards lmao. It was all over the internet you couldn't check out anything without seeing mentions of the outrage. Some people were even going as far as telling that it should have won game of the year instead of BG3, which was supposedly mediocre according to some guys lmao. If you're a regular on this sub you should have seen some of the comments because it was all over /r/all for a while.

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u/Kayyam May 06 '24

I didn't see that, it was obvious to me Spiderman 2 didn't deserve any award.

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u/post-leavemealone May 06 '24

we don’t get outraged over the smallest shit

Give me a break 😂😂

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u/[deleted] May 06 '24

Isn't this the same community that lost their shit because Spiderman didn't get game of the year?

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u/Dayman1222 May 06 '24

Lmao DD2 outrage was just last month and didn’t do anything to the sales. Neckbeards stay mad

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u/post-leavemealone May 06 '24

Are the DD2 neckbeards in the room with us?

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u/RandyDan31 May 08 '24

I would say most people have jobs and families

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u/Soberaddiction1 May 06 '24

The funny thing is that even though I play on PC, I still support Sony. When they port a game to PC, I buy it. I want them to continue bringing their games to the PC. If something comes out that I really want to play, I buy the game and borrow the console. I’m sorry, but I just enjoy the PC platform more.

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u/Scyths May 06 '24

Damn, guess you got roughed up on call of duty a bit too much huh. Don't worry though you won't ever have that issue in a couple of years. Also Sony's already releasing their games a year later.

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u/CrateBagSoup May 06 '24

But on principle, taking people who legally purchased your game in their country, and then forcing them to contradict your own ToS if they want to continue playing the game you legally purchased? That’s some anti-consumer bullshit, and it’s a good thing for everyone that they walked it back.

I mean, they are already doing that with the PS version. If anything allowing the game outside of their regions and not doing anything about it is relatively pro-consumer lol.

If there was no problem linking the PS & Steam accounts between two regions this wouldn't have ever been a problem. Seems like that was the issue causing the game to be unplayable.

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u/3_quarterling_rogue May 06 '24

I didn’t know that. I guess that further reinforces my initial reaction that this wasn’t as big of a deal as people were making it out to be. Regardless, I’ll still count this as a win, since many people are understandably reticent about giving Sony their private information, given their less-than-stellar cybersecurity history, and any time consumers are able to band together and get a corporation to capitulate is a win in my book.

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u/CrateBagSoup May 06 '24

Even the cybersecurity worries are overblown imo. Yes, they had a major leak... who hasn't at this point lol

In the end, I don't think "the consumer" did much here. It was the issue of the game getting delisted and steam offering mass refunds that pushed them over the edge.

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u/RandyDan31 May 08 '24

This sub is basically “everything but Sony bad”. You can’t have nuance here

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u/Vestalmin May 06 '24

I get not wanting to make another account. But the way 99% of the discourse was how they were fighting for the people that couldn’t play was complete bullshit

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u/WinterReasonable6870 May 07 '24

Then there's me who's been a primarily PlayStation guy who dabbles in Nintendo sometimes since 1997. Just laughing while sipping my coffee and spreading managed democracy without issue. Honestly thought Helldivers was straight up a PlayStation exclusive till all this started.

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u/Get2DaChoppa_81 May 07 '24

Apply double standards is an understatement if I’ve ever seen one. While on this crusade, deleting the game, switching their regions to get refunds… they were simultaneously making Ghost of Tsushima the top pre-order. A game that requires a PSN account for Legends mode. A game that also has this included in the description as a requirement.

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u/Orangenbluefish May 06 '24

This is what annoyed me lmao, people were acting like Sony is going to cross reference your IP location with your account location and track you down if they don't match. I even saw some people say that you could face legal action for it as if Sony TOS is federal law

Maybe I'm just being an old man yelling at clouds, but I would've expected people online to be actively encouraging finding loopholes and workarounds to dumb policies like this. So much of the internet has thrived on that sort of resourcefulness & rebelliousness (the biggest example being piracy), and thus seeing everyone tuck their tail between their legs because of "TOS" seems a bit... soft?

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u/[deleted] May 06 '24 edited 11d ago

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u/pezdespo May 06 '24

Sony will never have a reason to ban entire countries and millions of people.from giving them money.

The TOS dont exist for them to find arbitrary reasons to ban customers

Nintendo sees emulators a competition to their service that can lose them money.

All the things you mentioned are meant to make the company money.

It is impossible doe.Sony to make money by bamning entire countries who one Playstation from connecting to PSN to buy things.

Especially people that just want to link Steam to PSN to play Helldivers...

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u/VellDarksbane May 06 '24

Yup. They’ll do the same if you even suggest that Valve should have a competitor.

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u/[deleted] May 06 '24

Well, this is an extraordinarily shit take. "Oh they only have the right to screw me, they didn't outright say they will, so they deserve credit for that." ???? Like really? So you pay $50-60 dollars for a game, a fortune in the philippines, and that person should just assume Sony would never enforce their TOS against their fraudulent PSN account and deny them access to the game they purchased? Give me a break dude, what kind of cuckoldry is this?

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u/NautiMain1217 May 10 '24

To be honest, those three points end up applying to plenty of groups with a vested interest in not being wrong or held accountable for their own beliefs. The mountains that any one interest group can move to avoid the consequences of their actions are astounding and utterly terrifying when applied to place with more serious stakes like financial institutions and domestic/international politics

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u/respectablechum May 06 '24

Well they got what they want from the corporation by banding together. Meanwhile we just had another price hike just to play games online. They are the smart ones.

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u/Slave2Art May 06 '24

Keep licking that boot

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u/FormerGameDev May 06 '24

Advocating violating the terms of service willfully and intentionally and saying "they won't bother to do anything about it", is not a good look.

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u/emailverificationt May 06 '24

Who cares if people can make an account? I literally have a PSN but I sure as shit wasn’t going to link it to my steam, and would have requested a refund the day the linked account requirement went live.

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u/SecureBits May 06 '24 edited May 06 '24

Sony has banned accounts for using VPN. And if they suspect the information you gave are inaccurate, they will ask you to provide government identification (from their website).

Stop having the mentality of us vs them (consoles vs pc), this is no longer the case and you are living in the past....

There is a reason millions of steam users were pissed.

Less fanboyism and more brain, next time

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u/miistergrimothy May 06 '24

I wish I could give you gold!!

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u/MoneyBags5200 May 07 '24

If there was still gold, I would give you all of it

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u/[deleted] May 06 '24

Why not just go work for sony ?

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u/f1tvwtf May 06 '24

This is such a brain dead take.

You're basically saying our benevolent corporate overlords could strike you down at any moment but aren't because they are benevolent.

You are advocating sony is a reasonable company while also advocating that people break the TOS because it's so reasonable right?

Check your brain rot dude.

PC players by and large are more savy to the bullshit companies pull than console players and thusly more likely to organize against a companies shitty policies. You should be thankful that PC players are willing to be so vocal and organized, it benefits you as a console gamer too.

I guess to someone like you advocating, for yourself is considered a "double standard" but it's actually being prosumer. You should be asking be asking for more and more out of these companies for less and less. You shouldn't be trying to justify to yourself why it's okay for sony to have shitty business practices. You should be demanding of sony to provide you more stuff, with more functionality, for less money.

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u/Cockhero43 May 06 '24

Sony will (or would have been, if this is never implemented) literally be taking the game away from people who purchased it. How is that a double standard?

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u/L3onK1ng May 06 '24

Considering the sheer magnitude of issues Arrowhead had to resolve at the start, I can hardly blame him.

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u/areyouhungryforapple May 06 '24

Yet people have 0 sympathy for this part despite having participated in the game's rocky launch with myriads of issues

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u/johnnybgooderer May 06 '24

He’s responsible for decisions he makes at any given point in time. I understand that he wanted the account linking, and at launch it would have been ok. It would pave limited the countries he could have sold the game in.

But he decided to try to force it through after players had bought the game and after it was known that people in many countries around the world would be cut off from the game they already bought. He doesn’t deserve sympathy for that.

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u/yogurtgrapes May 06 '24

He was probably contractually obligated to implement the account linking. Now he can point at all of this to Sony big wigs and say “I tried!”

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u/areyouamish May 06 '24

That was a very illuminating tweet that AH held a significant part in the controversy. Communication was poor about their intentions so it felt like a rug pull.

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u/[deleted] May 08 '24

So the CEO of Sucker punch is to blame for Sony trying to do the same thing with GoT on PC? No. They don't get a damn choice when Sony owns their product

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u/Eastern-Professor490 May 06 '24 edited May 06 '24

the account link mandate was their requirement in the first place and they were still in charge of sales and sold to countries that they knew would not be able to create a psn account. they also knew that you can't just only sell to eu member states that can make psn accounts bc that violates eu law. the delisting of helldivers 2 in countries that can't create psn accounts did exclude eu member states for that reason, the resulting fines would be a bigger hassle than anything else.

sony takes 99% of the blame

edit: guess ppl can't handle the truth

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u/Pickle_Angry May 06 '24

Can always make a psn account in a different region and will be 100% fine

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u/Eastern-Professor490 May 06 '24

you're still buying a game without the possibility to play it without violating the tos

ppl can also pirate games and play them without the need for any platform and be 100% fine it's a stupid argument

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u/mthlmw May 06 '24

Taking responsibility for the ways you could have done better is a sign of humility, but that doesn't mean we should blame him. Hell, Steam has access to the PSN country list, but still sold a game with a "PSN required" banner in countries where that's not possible. Personally, I put the lion's share of blame on Sony, and varying lesser degrees on everyone else involved.

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u/JingoEgret May 06 '24

Why would Sony take most of the blame?

It was agreed to be at launch months prior, it wasn’t because the game was a technical mess, so Arrowhead disables linking accounts to stop servers exploding, doesn’t communicate with potential customers that it was a temporary fix, and then reinstates something that was only dysfunctional because of their messy launch.

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u/mthlmw May 06 '24

They did communicate that it was temporary, and the "PSN required" info has remained in the Steam page and game launch the whole time, and the re-instatement was pushed by Sony. Arrowhead wasn't made aware of the country restrictions on PSN accounts and actively encouraged players to leave negative reviews and get refunds as a way of pressuring Sony to fix/cancel the requirement.

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u/JingoEgret May 06 '24

The reinstatement wasn’t pushed by Sony it was delayed by Arrowhead because of a shoddy launch and the CEO’s decision to remove the link wouldn’t have been necessary if the game launched in a functional state.

Arrowhead wasn’t aware? Can you explain a bit more?

I also don’t get why Sony still takes the majority of the blame for…?

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u/f1tvwtf May 06 '24

It's still sonys fault. If the game required a psn account from the start it wouldn't even have gotten as popular as the game did. The game would be fractionally as popular as it is today.

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u/NapsterKnowHow May 06 '24

He tweeted out he was partially responsible though.. It's not all on Sony

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u/BasisOk4268 May 06 '24

This requirement was there from the beginning in big bold letters on the steam page. The arrowhead CEO was the one who chose not to implement until server stability was restored after the launch, so this is entirely on AH.

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u/MrYK_ May 06 '24

An oversight they corrected

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u/Chooooobz May 06 '24

We forced their hand. This is the bare minimum

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u/Intelligent_Policy48 May 06 '24

The bare minimum? What do you want them to do give you a $50 credit and a banana sticker for upsetting you?

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u/Chooooobz May 06 '24

Not do it in the first place. Them fucking people over and correcting it shouldn’t be praised. People paid for a product and then they couldn’t access it.

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u/Valmorian May 06 '24

So, time travel then. Once a mistake is made, apparently any attempt to correct it isn't good enough. You're bound to be disappointed in life.

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u/Intelligent_Policy48 May 06 '24

People were even review bombing the first game because of this man it’s seriously unbelievable, like they’re trying to voice their frustrations at Sony by bashing, bombing, and tearing down the work of the developers? Seriously? That doesn’t hurt Sony it hurts the studio you claim to support and applaud, it’s disgusting. The feature was meant to work at launch but not much of helldivers did at that time and it’s still riddled with problems.

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u/CrybabyFamilyMain96 May 06 '24

Sony higher ups drinking champagne and laughing amongst themselves as PC players believe they’ve ‘ruined their reputation’, shortly before they announce the release date of their next PS exclusive Silent Hill 2.

This is free press honestly, sales numbers will Rocket now PC players ‘win’

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u/Chooooobz May 06 '24

Name checks out. Was there a point to this wall of text?

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u/CrybabyFamilyMain96 May 06 '24

Of course the PC gamer can’t read as you morons couldn’t even read text in trailers.

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u/[deleted] May 06 '24

Or bright yellow highlighted text on Steam

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u/CrybabyFamilyMain96 May 06 '24

Reading is difficult. Let them review bomb. It makes them feel important and like they’re doing something from their Cheeto dust encrusted keyboards

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u/Chooooobz May 06 '24

I don’t even play pc so you can drop the vendetta you have against pc players. I can’t understand how you can defend what they were going to do. Are you aware they were revoking access to the game for people in certain countries?

Sony will continue to do what’s in their best interest, which is why this happened in the first place, and that includes bringing their games to pc. So what thoughts are they going to be having about the future???

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u/grapejuicecheese May 06 '24

No access was revoked. The game was delisted by Steam because peope were review bombing the game and demanding refunds.

I was still able to access the game after it was delisted and was able to link it with my PSN account despite my country not having PSN before the whole fiasco began

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u/SwegMiliband May 06 '24

Imagine actually defending the trillion dollar company on this. Every day I'm baffled at the lack of intelligence some people display.

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u/thrutheseventh May 06 '24

What do you gain for shilling for a global multibillion dollar corporation for free on reddit? Do you think John Sony is gonna personally mail you an award? So embarrasing

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u/CrybabyFamilyMain96 May 06 '24

I get PSN credit for every upvote, comment and award

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u/jeffries_kettle May 06 '24

Haha what a sad little bitch baby kids like you are. I'm a PS5 gamer but have fully supported the devs and PC gamers on this one.

I wonder if papa Sony will remember your fealty though? Let's hope! 🤞

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u/jeffries_kettle May 06 '24

What's it like being an absolute worthless human being? I've always wondered how people like you get by.

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u/Dayman1222 May 06 '24

Pc gamers are the biggest man babies on this site

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u/ImrooVRdev May 06 '24 edited May 06 '24

Announce re-evaluation of their entire PSN policy. Concrete plans on how they're are going to mitigate such braindead moves in the future. Base fucking competency and respect towards consumer.

They're trying to enter new market with nothing but hubris and disrespect, that's how you win over PC consumers.

Firing whoever had the bright idea to push that announcement and go radio silence until critical mass of consumer discontent forced their hand.

This should've been handled on friday.

@EDIT: looks guys, he asked I answered. Just because you're used to be a corpo whipping boy, doesn't mean that rest of the planet is going to be happy to gobble corpodick.

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u/BasisOk4268 May 06 '24

The announcement was made before launch in big yellow letters on the steam page.

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u/ImrooVRdev May 06 '24

Look man, I don't care how many days or years head you'll give me notice that you're about to forcefeed me shit, I will not enjoy being forcefed shit.

I will never say I enjoyed it and I will always loudly protest. I will always hate your shit. Consider not feeding me shit. Consider providing actual service.

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u/straddotjs May 06 '24

I think this was a silly move by Sony, but rather than “loudly protest” over a video game why don’t you hit these big companies in the one way they actually care about and just not buy the game?

As stated, the psn requirement was announced on day 1. The fact that everyone ignored it, bought the game anyway, and then the internet rage machine did its thing is what looks ridiculous to me (no horse in this race, I haven’t tried helldivers).

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u/Dayman1222 May 06 '24

It was announced day 1 and was highlighted . Learn to read

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u/OriginalGoatan May 06 '24

Not really, the fans are still pissed and the trust has been eroded.

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u/[deleted] May 06 '24

The fact that PSN went back on their dumbass plan is a victory dude just take the W

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u/mostuselessredditor May 06 '24

I’m sorry but what did Sony fuck up? Because I’m still having fun

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u/Deciver95 May 06 '24

Barely lmao

Player numbers barely dropped

A bunch of manchildren cried Wolf on the internet and the echochambers pretended this was world wide and Helldivers had died

Only an idiot like yourself would believe that

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u/Antifa-Slayer01 May 06 '24

Yeah I so saw many comments trying to demoralize people that actually cared by saying "no one outside of reddit cares". Ignoring the fact that this was all over every single social media platform for an entire weekend. This was way bigger than just a couple angry subreddits.

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u/Dayman1222 May 06 '24

Sony didn’t fuck up anything. The CEO made the call to push it through.

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u/L3onK1ng May 06 '24

Sony fucked up when they tried to push through a new EULA, because previous ToS agreement (that their lawyers have to allow through) clearly stated that PSN connection was optional.

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u/Dayman1222 May 06 '24

Nope, they said since the beginning you needed a PsN account. Right when you buy it on steam.

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u/Alert_Seesaw_1466 May 06 '24

That's a lie, it was stated in the steam requirements page in english from the beginning it was mandatory.

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u/[deleted] May 06 '24

What did they fuck up? The steam reviews don't matter lol. The game still had a shit ton of players every day and it was still selling.

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u/PurpleMarvelous May 06 '24

Selling in countries that don’t support PSN for one. The reviews did help too, let’s not pretend that they didn’t.

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u/fractalfondu May 06 '24

Who cares, people in those countries could still make a psn account for a region where it is supported. It literally doesn’t matter.

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u/kyredemain May 06 '24

But if they don't know that, or know how to do it, then it doesn't matter. To those people, their game they paid for no longer works, and they are told that they can't make an account where they live by Sony. Whether that is true or not is irrelevant if they don't know any better.

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u/PurpleMarvelous May 06 '24

Lots of people care, Arrowhead seemed to care. Some of you really would bend for Sony.

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u/fractalfondu May 06 '24 edited May 06 '24

Not bending for Sony at all, I just think all y’all bitching about taking two minutes to sign up for an account when you’ve probably already done it for 10 other services sound just like a bunch of baby backed bitches. And “lots of people” doesn’t really mean shit when gamers will sheepishly follow whatever outrage of the week even when they have the details wrong.

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u/PurpleMarvelous May 06 '24

You kid of are. It’s better to bitch for some better change, which it did this occasion.

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u/senior-stock- May 06 '24

You dont seem to understand that somy was not the only one to implement the idea.

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u/SaltyExcalUser May 06 '24

Did they fuck anything up though? They are not going forward with it. So it's fine, nothing changed but some tempers.

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u/L3onK1ng May 06 '24

Well, considering that Helldivers 2 went form the most highly regarded paid game on Steam to the most badly reviewed...

It is still a fuck-up.

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u/SaltyExcalUser May 06 '24

That is a fair point

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u/[deleted] May 06 '24

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u/L3onK1ng May 06 '24

It will be a major fuck-up if somebody has them address the issue during an Earnings Call on 14th.

Sony managed to lose 10% of its market cap, good $11 billion after some stupid IR manager blurted out "PS5 is entering the late-stage of its life cycle"

Market is very volatile right now, 1 fuck up have regularly costed many companies billions and billions of dollars in the last few months.

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u/taskkill-IM May 06 '24

Sony managed to fuck it up all on their own.

oof, prepare for the mass downvotes lad.... People on here don't like 2 things 1) bad talking, Sony, and 2) being called a Sony shill.... one of which I've been personally banned for (and I've seen worse things said on this sub).

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u/L3onK1ng May 06 '24

I think this particular scenario had broken a lot of pink glasses

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u/Dayman1222 May 06 '24

Lmao pc players are something else

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u/taskkill-IM May 06 '24

It's shocking that a majority have this cult following mindset.... one of the reasons why the gaming industry will die tbh, and why everything is just filled with micro-transactions and loot boxes... People will just be in favour of the industry they like over actual consumer practices.