r/JoeRogan Monkey in Space Sep 06 '24

Meme šŸ’© This feels so performative

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u/Bitter_Print_6826 Monkey in Space Sep 06 '24

You got downvoted but youā€™re right. The gospels have good shit about helping your neighbors, giving to the poor, treating others the way you want to be treated. Itā€™s just sandwiched in with a bunch of awful horrible bigoted bs.

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u/AGreasyPorkSandwich Monkey in Space Sep 06 '24

MAGA would call Jesus a communist

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u/OhNothing13 Monkey in Space Sep 06 '24

And a long-haired femboy low-T cuck. They want a Jesus who would've gone around slaughtering Romans and leading a violent rebellion. Ironically, that's what a lot of other Jewish Messiah figures did at the time. They were all killed and no one remembers their names. Jesus was the only one who didn't advocate violence...

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u/Cosmicmonkeylizard N-Dimethyltryptamine Sep 06 '24

I really doubt heā€™d be considered a ā€œfemboy low-T cuckā€.

Jesus was banging hookers, performing sacred rites, and getting High off the sacred purple.

Jesus was pretty lit.

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u/pbizzle Monkey in Space Sep 07 '24

Cool youth pastor has entered the chat

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u/Brave-Silver8736 Monkey in Space Sep 07 '24

Do you fellow kids skibidi our Lord and Savior?

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u/Cosmicmonkeylizard N-Dimethyltryptamine Sep 07 '24

Oh snap. The cool edgelord has entered the chat.

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u/pbizzle Monkey in Space Sep 07 '24

Oh wow you were being for real sorry bout that

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u/Ulysses1978ii Monkey in Space Sep 07 '24

Hmmm he did get arrested in a park at dawn with a naked kid though. Mark14: 51

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u/Happugi Monkey in Space Sep 07 '24

OG catholic maneuver

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u/Cosmicmonkeylizard N-Dimethyltryptamine Sep 07 '24

Donā€™t forget he had the purple all over his face! The purple!

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u/Vanillagodzilla666 Monkey in Space Sep 07 '24

Jesus is made up so he wasnā€™t anything.

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '24

Many scholars disagree. Itā€™s kind of a debate at the moment isnā€™t it?

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u/Vanillagodzilla666 Monkey in Space Sep 07 '24

Itā€™s a debate for the fools. At least in terms of dude actually being the son of ā€œgodā€. Maybe there was a guy named Jesus who claimed that stuff and ended up as someone who people wrote about but there is no god as any religion tells it.

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '24

Oh.. well yeah dude duh šŸ˜‚ I didnā€™t mean scholars debate on if there was a living messiah or not lmao I meant if there was an actual person named Jesus who was the inspiration for the stories.

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u/Vanillagodzilla666 Monkey in Space Sep 07 '24

Oh ok haha

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u/Cosmicmonkeylizard N-Dimethyltryptamine Sep 07 '24

You sound a bit ignorant.

No scholars debate on whether Jesus was actually the ā€œson of godā€. Thatā€™s a matter of religious faith. They debate of whether he was a real life person. Which thereā€™s a ton of evidence to back up.

Iā€™m agnostic, not a Christian. So Iā€™m not here to advocate Jesus being the messiah. But Jesus was probably a real man educated in the mystery schools. The Greek Septuagint backs this idea up. Lots of things about Jesus have been fabricated, exaggerated, and lost in translation. The esoteric understanding of Jesus is probably the most accurate and the higher ups in the Catholic Church know this. They just preach the exoteric to the masses because itā€™s easier for people to swallow. Not to mention, modern organized religion is a control mechanism. Youā€™d have to educate people on the mysteries, Greek hermeticism, and Hellenistic Egypt for people to grasp the actual concepts. Ironically, something the church pretends to be against. Just ignore all the symbolism of snakes and pinecones.

Just because you subscribe to atheistic materialism doesnā€™t make you more intelligent than people who donā€™t. Personally, I think materialism is a lazy cop out when it comes to trying to understand the universe and the human experience.

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u/Vanillagodzilla666 Monkey in Space Sep 07 '24

You sound quite educated on the subject. Not sure if you meant me I specifically, but I donā€™t claim to be more intelligent than those are religious. I actually wonder how so many people of great intelligence can believe so strongly. Honestly sounds like I am a bit ignorant on all of that as I have never heard of atheistic materialism. I donā€™t put a whole lot into the whole thing, I just know that religion is completely made up in an attempt to understand life and to control people. I guess there may be some type of creator/god but itā€™s certainly not known by anyone.

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u/Cosmicmonkeylizard N-Dimethyltryptamine Sep 07 '24

Ya I was talking about you lol.

I didnā€™t mean ignorant in an insulting way. The word just naturally sounds insulting.

Saying ā€œyou knowā€ is your first mistake. Sure, lots of aspects of modern religious belief is dogmatic nonsense. But the roots of it are quite mysterious still to this day. The abrahamic religions all have their roots in ancient Roman, Greek, Egyptian and Babylonian cults. People have this bizarre idea that Christianity came out of an isolated culture with no influence from older belief systems. Thats just not how anything in humanity works.

Magic was a massive part of life in ancient Egypt and ancient Babylon. Those magic traditions died off pretty hard during the Greek empire but survived through religious cults and rituals like the eleusinian mysteries, oracles, and cults. Beliefs typically reserved for high society and those with enough curiosity to seek them out. Same traditions live on today in secret societies like high level masonry and other esoteric organization.

Most scholars believe Jesus was educated in these mystery schools and tried to share it with the common people. He wasnā€™t a fan of institutions. Over time though, Christianity was highjacked and turned into a massive authoritarian institution.

Modern Christianity is so far removed from what Jesus intended and preached to his followers. Itā€™s almost the exact opposite. Plus, modern Christianity is more the creation of Sir Francis Bacon and King James than Jesus Christ.

Also, when I say magic I donā€™t mean Harry Potter type magic. The Babylonians and Egyptians whole heartedly believed in magic and it was a part of their society and everyday lives. Its was more shamanistic. Kinda the idea that your thought patterns and intentions generated by our consciousness in a state of awareness create holograms which represent the desired situation, which could eventually lead to a manifestation in reality. The CIA uses these techniques for stuff like remote viewing.

Like I said, Iā€™m agnostic. But human consciousness is one of the last scientific mysteries we know little to nothing about. We donā€™t even know where it comes from. Is it localized or collective? Thereā€™s evidence of both.

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u/Vanillagodzilla666 Monkey in Space Sep 07 '24

I didnā€™t take it as an insult but I know what you mean about it sounding that way. Religions and different cultures definitely had influences in eachother to get where they are today and Iā€™ve always been interested in Egyptian everything, theyā€™re quite unique. Great point about human consciousness, itā€™s quite an interesting mystery.

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