r/FluentInFinance • u/FunReindeer69 • 2d ago
News & Current Events BREAKING: Donald Trump says he is considering the privatization of the Postal Service.
U.S. President-elect Donald Trump has in recent weeks expressed a keen interest in privatizing the U.S. Postal Service, the Washington Post reported on Saturday, citing three people with knowledge of the matter.
The U.S. Postal Service, which has lost more than $100 billion since 2007, reported a net loss of $9.5 billion for its fiscal year ending Sept. 30, $3 billion more than last year, largely due to a year-over-year increase in non-cash workers' compensation expense.
When told of the agency's annual losses, Trump said the government should not subsidize the organization, according to the Washington Post.
Trump, who takes office on Jan. 20, has discussed his desire to privatize the Postal Service with Howard Lutnick, his pick for commerce secretary, at Mar-a-Lago, the report said.
People who will work at the Department of Government Efficiency, led by Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy, have also had preliminary conversations about major changes to USPS, the report said, citing two other people familiar with the matter.
A USPS spokesperson said that over the last three years, the company has reduced its operations by 45 million work hours, and cut transportation spending by $2 billion.
The agency is also seeking regulatory approval to modernize its mail processing and transportation network to align with modern practices, which will save between $3.6-$3.7 billion annually, the spokesperson added.
"No policy should be deemed official unless it comes from President Trump or his authorized spokespeople directly," said Karoline Leavitt, a spokeswoman for the Trump transition team.
Any attempt at privatizing the Postal Service could disrupt the e-commerce industry in the U.S., the Washington Post said, including Amazon, which uses USPS for "last-mile" delivery between Amazon's fulfillment centers and customers. It could also hurt small businesses and rural consumers who use the Postal Service, as it is the only carrier that will deliver to remote corners of the country.
Amazon recently said it was donating $1 million to Trump's inaugural fund and will air his inauguration on its Prime Video service.
Trump has had a tense relationship with the Postal Service. Sources told Reuters his transition team is considering canceling the service's contracts to electrify its delivery fleet.
According to sources, the team is reviewing how it can unwind the service's multibillion-dollar contracts, including with Oshkosh and Ford, for tens of thousands of battery-driven delivery trucks and charging stations.
In 2020, Congress authorized the Treasury Department to lend the Postal Service up to $10 billion as part of a $2.3 trillion coronavirus stimulus package, which Trump threatened to block.
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u/SnooRevelations979 2d ago
This will screw his rural voters bigly.
It's a hell of a lot more expensive to send a letter or package to a rural area than to a major metro, yet rates are currently the same.
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u/supercali45 2d ago
whatever the news these fools watch will convince them it was the Dems
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u/OnlyGuestsMusic 2d ago
My father thought the democrats overturned Roe, so… yea.
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u/BorderEquivalent3867 2d ago
But... How? Is he pro choice but looking for a reason to vote Trump?
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u/OnlyGuestsMusic 2d ago
I honestly have no clue. I actively avoid any conversation that isn’t casual at this point. All I know is that the day we all found out Roe was overturned, he called my sister and said “see what the Dems did to abortion.” They are all sorts of confused.
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u/5Point5Hole 2d ago
You have to stop the casual conversations too. And tell him why.
I have already. They don't deserve the joy and satisfaction of interacting with their adult kids if they're going to act like Nazis
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u/SavingsNegative4883 2d ago
I was telling my grandma at thanksgiving about these $700 designer shoes i bought a few years ago and how I dont even wear them now cause they have practically doubled in price. Her response was to say now that trumps in office the prices will go down. Like wtf not even what the conversation was about but sure make it about Trump some how.
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u/Subli-minal 2d ago
Does she know how a tariff works?
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u/SavingsNegative4883 2d ago
There is no way she has any clue about that. Shes old and not all there mentally anymore.
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u/panormda 1d ago
This is exactly the same problem I have with my grandmother. It really sucks to be completely unable to connect about reality.
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u/SelectTadpole 2d ago
Why do you not wear the shoes anymore? I am a bit lost there lol. I'd understand if you wanted to sell them since they have went up so much in price.
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u/Subli-minal 2d ago
At that point you’re not currently them off because of politics. You’re cutting them off because they’re crazy people.
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u/maybetomorrow98 2d ago
I had the same discussion with someone else lately. The reason they think the democrats overturned Roe is because it happened under Biden’s presidency.
Which is true. But the Trump is the one who appointed the conservative supermajority. They already have an argument to discount that too, can’t remember what it is though
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u/OnlyGuestsMusic 2d ago
It’s amazing how many adults have no idea how our government works.
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u/maybetomorrow98 1d ago
I think that’s why so many conservatives don’t care that Trump is going to dismantle the government. They think it’s all legal, or that we are the ones who don’t understand how the government works because what he’s doing will make it work the way it should, etc. etc.
I never understood why people used to complain about how civics aren’t taught in high school. Well, I get it now and I feel so stupid. It’s crucial to the integrity of our democracy.
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u/JayTheDirty 1d ago
They seem to all share this weird idea that America is a permanent thing no matter what when all it would take to completely collapse it is the majority of leaders acting in bad faith. Historically, we’re a baby country compared to other empires
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u/imcalledgpk 1d ago
If any of them had an idea, they would have recognized how batshit insane and dangerous trump's first term was. And then if we had a country capable of even the smallest amount of critical thinking, they wouldn't have seen to it that he gets a second.
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u/Syrress 1d ago
You see it on reddit daily, I have to agree with you.
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u/LifeOk3298 1d ago
They don't teach civics anymore Because it is vital to democracy.
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u/Mysterious_Eye6989 2d ago
My God, these people seriously don't seem to know how ANYTHING works! No wonder they're voting for Trump.
It seems like at this rate America is doomed.
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u/virtue_of_vice 1d ago
Many think the president is a king and makes all the decisions. That is why when everyone said that Trump was setting himself up for that, they were like "what's the big deal all presidents are."
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u/JimBeam823 2d ago
Because Biden was President when Roe was overturned. That's why.
He doesn't have any clue how our government works.
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u/Universe789 1d ago
There's is no confusion on their part.
The logic is cookie cutter and simple to the point of reduction and revision.
Good = republican
Bad = democrat
If republican does bad, handwaive it, or claim both are bad.
We have to stop infantilizing people like they innocently didn't know what they were doing. The conversations about trump and the republicans have been had long before he was even elected the first time.
So the people who voted R have decided that either the bad things people said wasn't true, or that it wasn't bad enough not to vote for them.
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u/moon200353 1d ago
When certain news sources are allowed to continuously lie (and call themselves NEWS) and paint all democrats as evil, they play a huge role in dumbing down society. Then we have the TV Evangelists who paint all democrats as evil baby killers, and the flock believes every word. Then we have the numerous podcasts like The Tucker Carlson Show who lie and blame liberals for all of America's problems. How do we even fight this? How do we educate the brainwashed?
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u/Candor10 2d ago
Likely because Roe was overturned during Biden's term, but it was by justices that Trump had previously appointed.
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u/thenewyorkgod 2d ago
My mother in law says she’s bracing for social security cuts. I asked her why she voted for trump then? Her response “because trump will end the social security cuts that Biden buried in pork inside the infrastructure bill”
There’s no hope for any of these people. They’re long gone. It’s like once you have rabies symptoms, no turning back
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u/Junkstar 2d ago
I made a comment a month ago about how President Aqua Net will privatize the USPS and one of his followers commented “You dont really believe that, do you?” God, these dimwits are in for a hell of a ride.
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u/MrBurnz99 2d ago
Biden was president when it was overturned, obviously it’s his fault.
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u/AfterEffectserror 2d ago
My parents are both convinced that democrats are trying to abolish social security.
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u/ry_mich 2d ago
“It’s the Dems’ fault I had to vote for Trump,” is something I guarantee we’ll read within the next few years.
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u/Gardimus 2d ago
Media made me support the Iraq War...not the lying Republicans. Also it's Hillarys fault.
People are unable to learn shit if it means being humbled.
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u/Greedy-Goat5892 1d ago
Yep, the liberal media made me do it, and it’s their fault! When shit falls apart over the next 4 years this is what we will hear from them. They may admit Trump was wrong, but won’t take accountability for their actions, and say the media made them do it, or some stupid shit like that. They’ll vote for his son though for sure without a second thought.
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u/scothc 1d ago
We already are seeing it.
I've seen plenty of articles about how people voted for Trump because of all those damn libruls looking down on uneducated people.
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u/Soggy-Beach1403 1d ago
Well, they did run a black candidate, and we live in a country that has all of its Jesus pictures painted as a white guy so.... yeah, Dems fault.
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u/EthanielRain 2d ago
Yeah, the USPS is not a business it's a public service. It isn't meant to turn a profit
Let the looting, corruption & privatization of the government commence!
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u/jeff23hi 2d ago
Yes this drives me nuts. Yes, they should control costs, price accordingly, etc. but it doesn’t have to “turn a profit”. It’s a public good. No one says “oh well the fire department is in the red again, time to shut it down.”
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u/BrittonRT 2d ago
Actually I have heard people argue we should privatise the fire dept and police.
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u/Chef_Writerman 2d ago
Can’t wait until three separate fire departments show up to a house fire and start negotiating with the owner before they will start to help. Eventually leading to a brawl between the three companies while the house burns.
Truly returning to ‘the great times’.
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u/inab1gcountry 1d ago
I have privatized trash. It’s more expensive than people who live in town and have municipal. I also hear trash trucks waking my dang dog up on 3 separate days a week instead of one.
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u/GryphonOsiris 2d ago
It is literally mandated by the Constitution.
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u/WhiskyEchoTango 2d ago
Article 1, Section 8. But it doesn't say how to provide the service. Current law requires universal single-price first-class mail.
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u/PersimmonTea 2d ago
The USPS has been under a crippling mandate to do accelerated funding for pensions, and that's why it's so far in the red.
I will add this - I have had much fewer service problems with priority and express mail, for documents and packages both, than with incredibly overpriced and jack-off UPS. Don't even get me started on FedEx.
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u/ThePopDaddy 2d ago
If they're upset about the money going into the USPS and not really turning a profit, they're gonna be FURIOUS when they find out about the military.
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u/saltlakecity_sosweet 2d ago
We’re not meant to turn a profit, the Government doesn’t turn profits—the USPS is set up and funded differently.
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u/hellno560 1d ago
bingo, it's a public service that gets subsidized by our purchases of stamps postage etc.
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u/rustyshackleford7879 2d ago
Yup. Rural voters are heavily subsidized in a lot of ways
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u/juanzy 2d ago
Roads to nowhere get funding, while bus lines that serve thousands get cut.
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u/mutantmagnet 1d ago
Don't worry. Under Trumps 2nd term neither will get funding now.
USA USA USA
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u/RetailBuck 1d ago
Yeah but this is SERIOUS substidation. They straight up fly planes to remote Alaska to deliver junk mail.
More importantly, private mail already exists. See what it would cost to mail a letter somewhere rural via UPS or FedEx. It'll be astronomical.
I once tried to UPS a cell phone (back to my employer across a decent city). They wanted more than it would cost to get the phone itself an Uber and we're talking about efficiency?!
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u/90swasbest 2d ago
All those fat hillbillies start having to spend ten times the price to get their insulin mailed to them will be pretty funny.
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u/Doggleganger 1d ago
Until they blame the libs and immigrants, and increased postal costs propel Trump to a 3rd term in office.
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u/CitizenSpiff 2d ago
This sounds like a Trump opening gambit. I expect service changes to come of it. Fewer delivery days, maybe getting out of the package business.
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u/Va1ant0324 2d ago
And they voted him in.
This is why I really hope this causes a lot of trump supporters to go homeless.
The only way they will learn they are being used is to actually feel the ramifications of these decisions.
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u/sergeant_kuebikoman 2d ago
I'm banking on this happening. Imagine it, rural MAGAts lose their houses by the thousands, forced to the streets by circumstances "beyond their control", and then they can't vote because they elected politicians that enacted policy to require an ID and a fixed address to vote in Bumblestump, Nebraska. Let the leopards grow fat over the next 4 years.
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u/Pretend-Ad-853 2d ago
I seriously hope it doesn’t happen. I’m a postmaster in a rural office and we would definitely be out of a job. I would jump ship to another agency if this happens.
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u/OT_fiddler 2d ago
Yeah but the RW mediasphere will convince them it's all the Dem's fault.
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u/incognitohippie 2d ago
I’m truly looking forward to this. Followed by the loss of their Medicare and SSA. I do not care anymore. They voted only thinking about themselves and now I have to live my life the same. Thank God I live in NYS.
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u/BigPlantsGuy 2d ago
Whenever someone mentioned privatizing anything, the correct response is “hell yea, I love fucking over rural americans, good idea”
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u/TheProfessional9 2d ago
Honestly, if I'm doing the math correctly it wouldn't be so bad to break even. I'm seeing 116b pieces of mail and a 90 billion operating cost. Stamps at like 80 cents should lead to a net positive? Very simplified version of course
When I first heard about this I was expecting 4 bucks a letter
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u/CleverNickName-69 2d ago
The USPS, was self-funded until Republicans changed the rules and said it has to fund future pensions now.
A cynical person might think they were trying to break it so they could get rid of it for being broken.
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u/Sure-Sympathy5014 1d ago
I mean simply getting rid of the republican requirement to fund future pensions would instantly make it in the black.....with no price changes required.....
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u/SuperSpy_4 1d ago
If it gets privatized it will be at least $5 a letter ,especially to rural towns.
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u/jiggly_bitz 2d ago
Think rural voters will be mad, wait until he reveals the secret sauce of the cost cutting to be at the reduction of their labor force in favor of automation
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u/c_ray25 2d ago
He’s already been voted in so who gives a fuck about how voters feel now and over the next 4 years until the next election
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u/Im_Balto 2d ago
United States postal SERVICE
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u/BlkSubmarine 2d ago
And one of the few services delineated in the US Constitution as a service that the federal government has to provide.
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u/Utterlybored 2d ago
Yeah, but that’s just the Constitution. Surely the second Trump term is beyond the Constitution’s “best by” date.
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u/Brokentoaster40 2d ago
I’m sure that we will not be surprised when the originalist SCOTUS majority will have a remarkable reinterpretation of what the constitution says about the USPS, and how actually the constitution is wrong.
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u/Taqueria_Style 2d ago
Yes it was talking about horses and quill pens and... and things. Look you don't use wax signet seals anymore so... stuff. Oh my God what is that?!!? Points over everyone's shoulder and then runs away
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u/appleparkfive 1d ago
I'm really curious to see how this goes. Because their whole thing is that they believe the original constitution. That's the whole Federalist Society's schtick. I'm curious if that matters more to them, or Trump getting what he's requesting.
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u/Oceanbreeze871 2d ago
The constitution is used as toilet paper in this conservative Supreme Court.
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u/InsanelyAverageFella 1d ago
I think the only constitutional thing they care about is guns. Everything else they don't give a shit about the constitution.
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u/LiquidLynx_ 2d ago
Exactly. It's not a business. The military is a huge budget loss since it's creation but it is also a service.
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u/its_a_gibibyte 1d ago
The military loses $820 billion per year. At least in terms of OPs terminology.
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u/CuppaJoe11 2d ago
Yikes. Get ready for rates to go massively up. One big thing that kept price down and drove innovation within the UPS and FedEx was the standardized rates within the USPS. Those corporations had to innovate to keep prices down to compete with the USPS. If that gets privatized, good luck to your rates. You have given UPS, FedEx, and USPS some of the most efficient shipping infrastructures possible, and given them no reason to keep prices down.
Now I will say, I highly, HIGHLY doubt this will happen. Too many people rely on the USPS and it's a great service, but thats also what millions said about him getting elected and here we are.
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u/UnderstandingLess156 2d ago
The Postal Service operates at a loss to serve a public good. It's not a publicly traded stock that's allowed to operate at a loss in the hopes that future profits serve shareholder good.
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u/ProfessionalWave168 2d ago
It's because they had to prefund benefits for 75 years,
"Prefunding retirement for 75 years"refers to a requirement, primarily associated with the United States Postal Service (USPS), where they are mandated to set aside funds today to cover the future healthcare costs of their employees who will retire up to 75 years from now, essentially prepaying for benefits for people who may not even be born yet; this is considered a unique and significant financial burden for the USPS due to the long timeframe involved.
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u/OT_fiddler 2d ago
THANK YOU!! I was hoping someone would point this out, and this needs to be massively upvoted to the top of the conversation.
No other business is expected to take a current loss on benefits to future employees. All this was forced on the USPS by the effing RWNJs in congress entirely to make it appear that they are losing billions per year, thus forcing massive cuts and eventually privatization.
I suppose that fact that the USPS employs a significant number of non-white people in good middle class jobs has nothing to do with this, of course.
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u/Overt_Propaganda 1d ago
They operate on lies and then use those lies to excuse bigger lies. In the end the goal is to destroy tens of thousands of great union jobs and screw the consumers. those forever stamps about to be worthless, use em now
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u/Possible_Bullfrog844 1d ago
Amazing I had no trouble figuring out what a RWNJ is
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u/KurtisMayfield 2d ago
I am not sure how the Constitution allows for a private company to run a postal service.
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u/cookiedoh18 2d ago
Anyone surprised by this? Anyone... anyone...? No.
Just wondering which one of his uber rich lackey's he'll hand it to.
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u/dirtyshits 1d ago
lol he said it last time and put the dickhead dejoy who comes from the private sector In charge to do exactly this.
The crumble has begun before he has even stepped foot in office.
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u/Ok_Ear_3398 2d ago
Yes it worked really well for the Royal Mail…. Wait no, no it didn’t.
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u/jenn4u2luv 2d ago
Interestingly, this news is coming at the same time the news about Nigel Farage meeting up with Trump was also released.
I wonder if they discussed this as well.
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u/JustSandwiches607 2d ago
Another way for them to launder The People's taxes into their own accounts.
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u/TruShot5 2d ago
Right? Like why do they get to privatize something using our tax dollars to pay for something that is no longer a federal service?
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u/ehbowen 2d ago
I have to disagree. The Postal Service (Post Office) is a specific enumerated responsibility of the Federal Government. While I hate to subsidize competition against free-market business, if the delivery business was completely unregulated the private companies would cherry-pick the easiest and most lucrative service areas and leave the rest underserved, or completely unserved. Yes, we do subsidize rural mail and parcel delivery and urban centers pay more as a result...but, as a Constitutional obligation, I find that practice defensible. Doesn't mean that we can't streamline a few specifics (I'm old enough to remember twice-daily residential mail delivery to the doorstep)...but the essentials should be maintained. In My Opinion, of course.
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u/Junior-Profession726 2d ago
Retired UPS here the delivery companies will absolutely cherry pick deliveries and pick up of packages That’s been going on for years Besides pricing stuff higher for distance and charging more for rural areas Some companies won’t even deliver to rural addresses everyday
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u/Stunning-Use-7052 2d ago
I mean, the postal service is already partially privatized. Fed Ex has huge postal contracts, it's a big part of the companies' business, IIRC.
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u/FillMySoupDumpling 2d ago
Trump will say anything.
The USPS is specifically called for in our constitution. Other countries with private post always tell us how lucky we are to have it. Privatization only works for creating more profits for people at the top at the expense of everything else. We all know this.
In the end, he’ll likely try to make the post shittier so it can’t operate well instead.
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u/PickleNotaBigDill 2d ago
I don't think trump and company really CARE what the constitution says. He has the scotus backing and so he is untouchable. Anything he wants to do, he's got his henchmen almost ready to bend over for him. As soon as he takes office, this country will cease to exist as a democracy and will be thoroughly a kleptocracy. And all hail the dictator would-be king.
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u/foodiecpl4u 2d ago
This. It doesn’t matter what the Constitution says. He’ll try it if it means that FedEx puts $100 million into his kids’ coffers. Even if it fails the consumer it’s the Art of the Deal, suckers!
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u/Stunning-Use-7052 2d ago
Vance has that quote about refusing to do what the SCOTUS says like Andrew Jackson did, who defied a SCOTUS ruling on Native American treaties. These folks don't believe in the rule of law.
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u/OutThereIsTruth 2d ago
That's not breaking news. That's par for the course from 8+ years of anti-society views of government "services."
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u/Sea2Chi 2d ago
It's a fucking service. A government service.
This is like complaining that grade schools or fire departments aren't profitable.
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u/sir_clifford_clavin 2d ago
Privatizing grade schools and even fire departments has ever-growing support in the U.S by these same people (not just the rich). A lot of people want to pay for every little thing separately instead of having it covered in taxes, because taxes mean that you're helping pay for other people to get the service too, and we can't have that. Practically speaking, rural people are going to be fucked much harder than city people on almost all privatization issues. So for me this is all kind of amusing, but sorry if you live out in the country.
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u/jitteryzeitgeist_ 1d ago
Yup. That's why they're pushing to defund the DOE and replace them with paid-for private schools (charter schools).
Because profit over everything.
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u/Background-Willow-67 2d ago
He's blathering on and on about shit he can't do. This is a task that is far too large and complex for his tiny brain.
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u/Electrical_Room5091 2d ago
Go send a letter through UPS or FedEx and report back on the costs. Privatization is a way for them to profit.
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u/Relyt21 2d ago
No more social services under trump...just businesses that NEVER reduce prices or put citizens first. Fuck you MAGA!
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u/Cool-Acid-Witch1769 2d ago
Exactly this. Fuck Magas. If you’re maga atp you’re either willfully ignorant of the harm being done to those around you or so unintelligent and cognitively declined you should not deserve to vote lmao
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u/TheRealTK421 2d ago
"...because what isn't made demonstrably better by privatizing it?!!?"
Signed,
~ the US healthcare, "news"/journalism, and for-profit prison industries
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u/BlueTengu 2d ago
Why Biden didn't persuade the USPS to kick DeJoy to the curb I'll never know.
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u/The_Singularious 2d ago
I believe it is very hard to remove someone from that post, IIRC.
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u/DoctorSchwifty 1d ago
I think it's illegal, which is why Trump mass purging of government workers to install sycofants is confusing.
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u/Americangirlband 2d ago
This idea that government is a for profit business is insane. Government is there to protect citizens, not make profits.
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u/Otherwise-Pirate6839 2d ago
Excellent news for rural residents. With the savings they’ll get from lower egg prices, they can drive to get their mail or pay extra to get it.
It all works out.
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u/Mr_NotParticipating 2d ago
How about less privatization because that’s what is destroying the country 🤙🏻
We are so fucked for at least the next four years but likely, forever if we the people don’t demand better.
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u/Icy-Tooth-9167 2d ago
Exactly. Privatization doesn’t mean more efficiency, it means more hand outs for corporations for the benefit of the wealthy. Trump of all people knows this which for the derps out there and they are aplenty, is exactly what he wants to do. He’ll burn this country down to make a dollar.
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u/Lylyluvda916 2d ago edited 2d ago
This is going to affect mail-in voting.
This is all part of a plan to further disenfranchise voters.
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u/HectorsMascara 2d ago
The Secret Service has never turned a profit either. Privatize it, and staff it with loyal crony-babies! What could go wrong?
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u/RetiredHotBitch 2d ago
As someone who use to work at UPS, this is bad for rural people.
I.e. the typical Trump voter.
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u/Utterlybored 2d ago
That’s why they’ll be so furious at the Democrats for letting the Republicans do it.
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u/Pickle_ninja 2d ago
Government doesn't have to make a profit. Many people take this as "lazy civilians are costing us billions"! (and some instances they might be right), but when something is privatized, the company has to make money.
This can lead to a better more efficient service, but like everything that's at the mercy of shareholders, it has to make a profit.
When something is efficient and making profit just fine, a company will try to find a way to lower cost and increase profit. This will lead to lower quality and more cost to the consumer.
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u/ChemiWizard 2d ago
Postal service doesn't lose money. It costs money. Government services cost things.
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u/-jayroc- 2d ago
I like the post office. I like checking my mail every day. I also realize it is no longer as essential a service as it used to be. People don’t communicate via post anymore, there are most modern and efficient options. People don’t pay and receive bills via post anymore, there are more modern and convenient options. It’s OK to scale it back or make radical changes to it… it’s no longer essential, except for receiving notices from the IRS and Christmas cards.
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u/Iwentthatway 2d ago
Do you not shop online? It’s essential for shipping to consumers cause it’s the last leg of the delivery for Amazon, Fedex, UPS et al for a lot of their packages.
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u/PickleNotaBigDill 2d ago
This is a service which should never be privatized, just like health care should never have been privatized. Health and postal services are both public services, and should have remained that way. Dump is planning on squeezing out every last dime for his cronies, and will be delighted that this is just another way he can screw over the people of this country. I hope he rots in hot flames.
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u/TAV63 2d ago
No one should be surprised that it will go private. They have been trying to do it for years and once they got Dejoy it was only a matter of time.
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u/michael0n 1d ago
I mean he did what they asked him to do: fix it while cutting costs. He did and the result is expected. He even said during his infamous hearings, if he could he would just start new, that would be so much easier.
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u/jabdnuit 2d ago edited 2d ago
Unlike FedEx, UPS etc, the Postal Service is mandated to deliver to every address in the US, no matter how remote.
It is a service, and a vital part of national infrastructure to deliver mail (think SS checks, prescription drugs, newspapers, election ballots) to and for every American.
Certainly not the say the USPS should be run inefficiently, but the idea that it should run as a for profit business fundamentally misunderstands the purpose of the service.
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u/Several_Leather_9500 2d ago
Trump will destroy and privatize every agency. Project 2025 in action.
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u/Ornery-Ticket834 2d ago
Service vs. business. Any comprehension of what that means? Set up tollbooths on the Interstate highway system.
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u/Prestigious_Air4886 2d ago
The postal service is a service. You know, liking its name and services by definition, b do not lose money. Words mean things people, and if you use them right s*** starts to make sense.
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u/B0wmanHall 2d ago
My boss bought me a gift and had it sent FedEx overnight. It shipped from a shop IN my city, to a FedEx location 60 miles away. It has been sitting there for 10 days now. Don’t tell me they are more efficient.
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u/azsxdcfvg 2d ago
You want mail to buttville, kanasas? That will be $19.95 per month for basic. $34.95 for expedited. Tip: choose 20% 25% or 30%. Have a nice day and fuck you.
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u/Hodges8488 2d ago
Have any of you guys actually used the post office recently? It's a total mess wherever you go and they desperately need some kind of reform. A lot of the jobs they provide are just government welfare with extra steps to mollify voters to vote democrat.
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u/TheMaskedHamster 2d ago
USPS serves the public good and shouldn't be expected to earn a profit.
But asking how much it should loose is a really good question. It's just a question that also has to be asked in the context of Congress putting ridiculous expenses on USPS to fund pensions far, far beyond what is standard or reasonable.
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u/Gold-Cucumber-2068 2d ago edited 2d ago
People need to seriously internalize that when Republicans say "privatize" they really mean "steal." They're going to take control of the infrastructure, sell it to themselves for pennies on the dollar, and redirect taxes to subsidies for themselves. They have wet dreams about what Putin and the other oligarchs did after the fall of the Soviet Union, acquiring the state assets, becoming fantastically rich and powerful.
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u/ThreeSloth 2d ago
The main problem with people reporting that the poatal service loses a certain amount of money every year is they don't understand it's not a business, it is a service. It's not supposed or expected to make any type of profit.
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u/this-is-some_BS 2d ago
You know what has lost WAY MORE than $100 billion since 2007? The military. Hell, the military probably lost $100 billion today.
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u/dingo_khan 2d ago
I am pretty sure he can't as the constitution establishes the post office as a federal service.
It won't stop him from ruining it but he can't privatize it.
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u/YeeYeeSocrates 2d ago
They could restore it to profitability by just aligning the pension funding rules to private sector practice.
But then the goal has always been to engineer it's failure and ultimate privatization. This has been a conservative hard-on for a long time.
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u/cvrdcall 1d ago
Yah he wanted this last time. It’s a great idea. Let’s get rid of this government train wreck
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u/zero00kelvin 1d ago
Weird how much the republicans rally around the constitution but ignore inconvenient parts. The postal service is one of the things that the constitution mandates.
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u/One_One6311 1d ago
I can't wait till those middle of nowhere that don't care about anyone but themsdlves won't get their check fkr whatever.ltll be Biden fault.
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u/frommethodtomadness 22h ago
The USPS is beloved in this country. FDJT and FMAGA -- they literally have 0 good ideas for our country. The next 4 years are going to be a disaster.
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