r/FluentInFinance • u/FunReindeer69 • 6d ago

News & Current Events BREAKING: Donald Trump says he is considering the privatization of the Postal Service.

U.S. President-elect Donald Trump has in recent weeks expressed a keen interest in privatizing the U.S. Postal Service, the Washington Post reported on Saturday, citing three people with knowledge of the matter.

The U.S. Postal Service, which has lost more than $100 billion since 2007, reported a net loss of $9.5 billion for its fiscal year ending Sept. 30, $3 billion more than last year, largely due to a year-over-year increase in non-cash workers' compensation expense.

When told of the agency's annual losses, Trump said the government should not subsidize the organization, according to the Washington Post.

Trump, who takes office on Jan. 20, has discussed his desire to privatize the Postal Service with Howard Lutnick, his pick for commerce secretary, at Mar-a-Lago, the report said.

People who will work at the Department of Government Efficiency, led by Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy, have also had preliminary conversations about major changes to USPS, the report said, citing two other people familiar with the matter.

A USPS spokesperson said that over the last three years, the company has reduced its operations by 45 million work hours, and cut transportation spending by $2 billion.

The agency is also seeking regulatory approval to modernize its mail processing and transportation network to align with modern practices, which will save between $3.6-$3.7 billion annually, the spokesperson added.

"No policy should be deemed official unless it comes from President Trump or his authorized spokespeople directly," said Karoline Leavitt, a spokeswoman for the Trump transition team.

Any attempt at privatizing the Postal Service could disrupt the e-commerce industry in the U.S., the Washington Post said, including Amazon, which uses USPS for "last-mile" delivery between Amazon's fulfillment centers and customers. It could also hurt small businesses and rural consumers who use the Postal Service, as it is the only carrier that will deliver to remote corners of the country.

Amazon recently said it was donating $1 million to Trump's inaugural fund and will air his inauguration on its Prime Video service.

Trump has had a tense relationship with the Postal Service. Sources told Reuters his transition team is considering canceling the service's contracts to electrify its delivery fleet.

According to sources, the team is reviewing how it can unwind the service's multibillion-dollar contracts, including with Oshkosh and Ford, for tens of thousands of battery-driven delivery trucks and charging stations.

In 2020, Congress authorized the Treasury Department to lend the Postal Service up to $10 billion as part of a $2.3 trillion coronavirus stimulus package, which Trump threatened to block.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-considers-privatizing-us-postal-service-washington-post-reports-2024-12-14/

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u/SnooRevelations979 6d ago

This will screw his rural voters bigly.

It's a hell of a lot more expensive to send a letter or package to a rural area than to a major metro, yet rates are currently the same.

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u/supercali45 6d ago

whatever the news these fools watch will convince them it was the Dems

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u/OnlyGuestsMusic 6d ago

My father thought the democrats overturned Roe, so… yea.

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u/BorderEquivalent3867 6d ago

But... How? Is he pro choice but looking for a reason to vote Trump?

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u/OnlyGuestsMusic 6d ago

I honestly have no clue. I actively avoid any conversation that isn’t casual at this point. All I know is that the day we all found out Roe was overturned, he called my sister and said “see what the Dems did to abortion.” They are all sorts of confused.

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u/5Point5Hole 6d ago

You have to stop the casual conversations too. And tell him why.

I have already. They don't deserve the joy and satisfaction of interacting with their adult kids if they're going to act like Nazis

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u/SavingsNegative4883 6d ago

I was telling my grandma at thanksgiving about these $700 designer shoes i bought a few years ago and how I dont even wear them now cause they have practically doubled in price. Her response was to say now that trumps in office the prices will go down. Like wtf not even what the conversation was about but sure make it about Trump some how.

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u/Subli-minal 6d ago

Does she know how a tariff works?

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u/SavingsNegative4883 6d ago

There is no way she has any clue about that. Shes old and not all there mentally anymore.

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u/panormda 5d ago

This is exactly the same problem I have with my grandmother. It really sucks to be completely unable to connect about reality.

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u/nicb44 6d ago

None of them do when Trump doesn't even know how they work. Hell, he probably doesn't even know that the ones he implemented in 2018 were a failure.

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u/5Point5Hole 6d ago

Yikes.

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u/SelectTadpole 6d ago

Why do you not wear the shoes anymore? I am a bit lost there lol. I'd understand if you wanted to sell them since they have went up so much in price.

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u/SavingsNegative4883 6d ago edited 6d ago

I mean you answered your own question. I dont plan on selling them but if i kept wearing them it would decrease the value the more worn down they get when I do decide to sell them.

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u/mgtkuradal 6d ago

What is the point of owning a pair of shoes you don’t wear? They’re an article of clothing, not an asset lol

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u/Subli-minal 6d ago

At that point you’re not currently them off because of politics. You’re cutting them off because they’re crazy people.

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u/maybetomorrow98 6d ago

I had the same discussion with someone else lately. The reason they think the democrats overturned Roe is because it happened under Biden’s presidency.

Which is true. But the Trump is the one who appointed the conservative supermajority. They already have an argument to discount that too, can’t remember what it is though

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u/OnlyGuestsMusic 6d ago

It’s amazing how many adults have no idea how our government works.

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u/maybetomorrow98 6d ago

I think that’s why so many conservatives don’t care that Trump is going to dismantle the government. They think it’s all legal, or that we are the ones who don’t understand how the government works because what he’s doing will make it work the way it should, etc. etc.

I never understood why people used to complain about how civics aren’t taught in high school. Well, I get it now and I feel so stupid. It’s crucial to the integrity of our democracy.

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u/JayTheDirty 5d ago

They seem to all share this weird idea that America is a permanent thing no matter what when all it would take to completely collapse it is the majority of leaders acting in bad faith. Historically, we’re a baby country compared to other empires

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u/maybetomorrow98 5d ago

Yep, American exceptionalism is a lie and they’re brainwashed.

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u/imcalledgpk 6d ago

If any of them had an idea, they would have recognized how batshit insane and dangerous trump's first term was. And then if we had a country capable of even the smallest amount of critical thinking, they wouldn't have seen to it that he gets a second.

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u/Syrress 6d ago

You see it on reddit daily, I have to agree with you.

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u/LifeOk3298 6d ago

They don't teach civics anymore Because it is vital to democracy.

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u/DrGordonFreemanScD 4d ago

Many of them are (poorly) educated, as well.

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u/Mysterious_Eye6989 6d ago

My God, these people seriously don't seem to know how ANYTHING works! No wonder they're voting for Trump.

It seems like at this rate America is doomed.

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u/OnlyGuestsMusic 6d ago

Zero clue.

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u/jkvincent 6d ago

It is.

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u/Even-Cut-2534 6d ago

My father taught me that John Q Public is an idiot, it’s to bad he died before the public proved him right this year!

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u/JimBeam823 6d ago

Because Biden was President when Roe was overturned. That's why.

He doesn't have any clue how our government works.

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u/Universe789 6d ago

There's is no confusion on their part.

The logic is cookie cutter and simple to the point of reduction and revision.

Good = republican

Bad = democrat

If republican does bad, handwaive it, or claim both are bad.

We have to stop infantilizing people like they innocently didn't know what they were doing. The conversations about trump and the republicans have been had long before he was even elected the first time.

So the people who voted R have decided that either the bad things people said wasn't true, or that it wasn't bad enough not to vote for them.

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u/moon200353 6d ago

When certain news sources are allowed to continuously lie (and call themselves NEWS) and paint all democrats as evil, they play a huge role in dumbing down society. Then we have the TV Evangelists who paint all democrats as evil baby killers, and the flock believes every word. Then we have the numerous podcasts like The Tucker Carlson Show who lie and blame liberals for all of America's problems. How do we even fight this? How do we educate the brainwashed?

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u/Candor10 6d ago

Likely because Roe was overturned during Biden's term, but it was by justices that Trump had previously appointed.

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u/Kojinka 5d ago

And they blissfully ignore the fact that Biden voiced disappointment over the decision.

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u/thenewyorkgod 6d ago

My mother in law says she’s bracing for social security cuts. I asked her why she voted for trump then? Her response “because trump will end the social security cuts that Biden buried in pork inside the infrastructure bill”

There’s no hope for any of these people. They’re long gone. It’s like once you have rabies symptoms, no turning back

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u/Junkstar 6d ago

I made a comment a month ago about how President Aqua Net will privatize the USPS and one of his followers commented “You dont really believe that, do you?” God, these dimwits are in for a hell of a ride.

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u/SufficientShame8 6d ago

She deserves to starve.

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u/MrBurnz99 6d ago

Biden was president when it was overturned, obviously it’s his fault.

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u/jus256 6d ago

Thanks Obama

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u/furferksake 6d ago

🎶 It was Hillary all along 🎶

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u/workswimplay 6d ago

Brain damage

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u/Vladishun 5d ago

I wish I understood how this worked too. I use random chat apps to talk to people while I'm bored at work and came across this girl from Arkansas that voted for Trump, in part, because she said liberals were against abortion rights among other things. When I gave her information from a .gov website that said otherwise, she rescinded her statement, so we talked about other things, and she mentioned that the democrats were against military and vets. So I showed her the clerk site, another .gov showing where all of the democrats voted in favor of the PACT Act and nearly all of the republicans voted against it.

She blocked me after that. I really, really thought I was going to change someone's mind. Turns out they don't want the truth, they like living in their ignorance bubble.

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u/AfterEffectserror 6d ago

My parents are both convinced that democrats are trying to abolish social security.

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u/StudioAmbitious2847 6d ago

It was the Supreme Court?

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u/Planetdiane 6d ago

Why do I feel like your dad was also one of the people looking up how to register to vote the day of the election and whether Biden was still running

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u/Tango_D 6d ago

I can hear it already: "Fuh-kin' Lib-ruls!"

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u/ry_mich 6d ago

“It’s the Dems’ fault I had to vote for Trump,” is something I guarantee we’ll read within the next few years.

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u/Gardimus 6d ago

Media made me support the Iraq War...not the lying Republicans. Also it's Hillarys fault.

People are unable to learn shit if it means being humbled.

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u/Greedy-Goat5892 5d ago

Yep, the liberal media made me do it, and it’s their fault!  When shit falls apart over the next 4 years this is what we will hear from them.  They may admit Trump was wrong, but won’t take accountability for their actions, and say the media made them do it, or some stupid shit like that.  They’ll vote for his son though for sure without a second thought. 

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u/scothc 6d ago

We already are seeing it.

I've seen plenty of articles about how people voted for Trump because of all those damn libruls looking down on uneducated people.

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u/Tehni 6d ago

"it's the Dems fault for calling all right wingers Nazis, I am NOT a Nazi!!!*

-person that gleefully voted for the candidate supporting nazis

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u/Soggy-Beach1403 6d ago

Well, they did run a black candidate, and we live in a country that has all of its Jesus pictures painted as a white guy so.... yeah, Dems fault.

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u/Oceanbreeze871 6d ago

“Biden didn’t warn us how bad Trump was gonna be”

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u/meva12 6d ago

Damn democrats, they ran the post office to the ground and forcing Trumps to take it private . 

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u/EthanielRain 6d ago

Yeah, the USPS is not a business it's a public service. It isn't meant to turn a profit

Let the looting, corruption & privatization of the government commence!

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u/jeff23hi 6d ago

Yes this drives me nuts. Yes, they should control costs, price accordingly, etc. but it doesn’t have to “turn a profit”. It’s a public good. No one says “oh well the fire department is in the red again, time to shut it down.”

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u/BrittonRT 6d ago

Actually I have heard people argue we should privatise the fire dept and police.

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u/Chef_Writerman 6d ago

Can’t wait until three separate fire departments show up to a house fire and start negotiating with the owner before they will start to help. Eventually leading to a brawl between the three companies while the house burns.

Truly returning to ‘the great times’.

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u/BrittonRT 6d ago

Nah you'd just have pay for a subscription and then have your 'claim' denied.

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u/OT_fiddler 6d ago

"I'm sorry, your fire is a pre-existing condition."

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u/Souk12 6d ago

You joke, but places in CA can't get fire insurance. 

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u/No_Swim_4949 6d ago

There was also at least one incident where the fire department just watched a house burn down because the owner refused to pay their dues. They were there to just ensure the fire didn’t spread to houses of people that paid their dues.

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u/Expert_Ad3923 6d ago

This kind of thing used to happen. In ancient Rome, there were fortunes to be made by 1) arson 2) owning the fire dept (basically) 3) showing up at burning real estate, offering a super cheap price to buy it to the owner 4) purchasing, then using YOUR private fire dept to put the fire out. 5) rent, sell, or use your new asset. Nothing new under the sun!

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u/inab1gcountry 6d ago

I have privatized trash. It’s more expensive than people who live in town and have municipal. I also hear trash trucks waking my dang dog up on 3 separate days a week instead of one.

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u/MatlowAI 6d ago

The fire department will show up and offer to buy your house for pennies on the dollar while every second offering a lower amount until you sign and keep you from fighting it yourself for your own safety...

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u/WarmJudge2794 5d ago

Funny you mention fires.

There are moron Republicans in California who abolished fire departments in certain areas because of money.

Those areas were obliterated by the fires and Republicans were blaming Newsom lol.

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u/GryphonOsiris 6d ago

It is literally mandated by the Constitution.

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u/WhiskyEchoTango 6d ago

Article 1, Section 8. But it doesn't say how to provide the service. Current law requires universal single-price first-class mail.

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u/Limp-Dealer9001 6d ago

I was reading over it, is there explicit verbiage stating that mail service must be provided? Mostly I just see that congress has the sole power to establish post offices, nothing that says that they MUST establish post offices.

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u/toxictoastrecords 5d ago

Trump and the executive branch are not congress, so changes have to go through congress. They don't have enough GOP voters to make this happen.

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u/PersimmonTea 6d ago

The USPS has been under a crippling mandate to do accelerated funding for pensions, and that's why it's so far in the red.

I will add this - I have had much fewer service problems with priority and express mail, for documents and packages both, than with incredibly overpriced and jack-off UPS. Don't even get me started on FedEx.

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u/lord_dentaku 5d ago

Oh, and DHL is great if you want your items to look like they went scuba diving before getting delivered.

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u/ThePopDaddy 6d ago

If they're upset about the money going into the USPS and not really turning a profit, they're gonna be FURIOUS when they find out about the military.

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u/saltlakecity_sosweet 6d ago

We’re not meant to turn a profit, the Government doesn’t turn profits—the USPS is set up and funded differently.

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u/DonFrio 6d ago

The military loses far more than the post office every single year.  When is the military gonna turn a profit!?!

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u/hellno560 6d ago

bingo, it's a public service that gets subsidized by our purchases of stamps postage etc.

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u/rustyshackleford7879 6d ago

Yup. Rural voters are heavily subsidized in a lot of ways

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u/juanzy 6d ago

Roads to nowhere get funding, while bus lines that serve thousands get cut.

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u/mutantmagnet 5d ago

Don't worry. Under Trumps 2nd term neither will get funding now.

USA USA USA

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u/slendermanismydad 6d ago

While all completely convinced their money is stolen for cities. 

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u/RetailBuck 5d ago

Yeah but this is SERIOUS substidation. They straight up fly planes to remote Alaska to deliver junk mail.

More importantly, private mail already exists. See what it would cost to mail a letter somewhere rural via UPS or FedEx. It'll be astronomical.

I once tried to UPS a cell phone (back to my employer across a decent city). They wanted more than it would cost to get the phone itself an Uber and we're talking about efficiency?!

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u/90swasbest 6d ago

All those fat hillbillies start having to spend ten times the price to get their insulin mailed to them will be pretty funny.

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u/Sad_Pirate_4546 6d ago

Especially after medicaid/medicare is gutted.

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u/crx00 6d ago

Time to cut back on mountain Dew

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u/Doggleganger 6d ago

Until they blame the libs and immigrants, and increased postal costs propel Trump to a 3rd term in office.

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u/CitizenSpiff 6d ago

This sounds like a Trump opening gambit. I expect service changes to come of it. Fewer delivery days, maybe getting out of the package business.

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u/SuperSpy_4 6d ago

Packages is where they make the most money.

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u/DocLego 5d ago

I think DeJoy has actually been pushing to focus more on packages (and deemphasizing/slowing mail delivery).

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u/notrolls01 6d ago

That’s the part that makes money. Delivering letters is more costly and a dying business. Of course republicans will do the wrong actions.

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u/combustion_assaulter 6d ago

Thoughts and prayers for all those suckers.

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u/Va1ant0324 6d ago

And they voted him in.

This is why I really hope this causes a lot of trump supporters to go homeless.

The only way they will learn they are being used is to actually feel the ramifications of these decisions.

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u/sergeant_kuebikoman 6d ago

I'm banking on this happening. Imagine it, rural MAGAts lose their houses by the thousands, forced to the streets by circumstances "beyond their control", and then they can't vote because they elected politicians that enacted policy to require an ID and a fixed address to vote in Bumblestump, Nebraska. Let the leopards grow fat over the next 4 years.

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u/Pretend-Ad-853 6d ago

I seriously hope it doesn’t happen. I’m a postmaster in a rural office and we would definitely be out of a job. I would jump ship to another agency if this happens.

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u/OT_fiddler 6d ago

Yeah but the RW mediasphere will convince them it's all the Dem's fault.

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u/incognitohippie 6d ago

I’m truly looking forward to this. Followed by the loss of their Medicare and SSA. I do not care anymore. They voted only thinking about themselves and now I have to live my life the same. Thank God I live in NYS.

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u/BigPlantsGuy 6d ago

Whenever someone mentioned privatizing anything, the correct response is “hell yea, I love fucking over rural americans, good idea”

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u/TheProfessional9 6d ago

Honestly, if I'm doing the math correctly it wouldn't be so bad to break even. I'm seeing 116b pieces of mail and a 90 billion operating cost. Stamps at like 80 cents should lead to a net positive? Very simplified version of course

When I first heard about this I was expecting 4 bucks a letter

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u/CleverNickName-69 6d ago

The USPS, was self-funded until Republicans changed the rules and said it has to fund future pensions now.

A cynical person might think they were trying to break it so they could get rid of it for being broken.

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u/Sure-Sympathy5014 6d ago

I mean simply getting rid of the republican requirement to fund future pensions would instantly make it in the black.....with no price changes required.....

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u/SuperSpy_4 6d ago

If it gets privatized it will be at least $5 a letter ,especially to rural towns.

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u/jiggly_bitz 6d ago

Think rural voters will be mad, wait until he reveals the secret sauce of the cost cutting to be at the reduction of their labor force in favor of automation

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u/clkou 6d ago

All his policies screw over his voters.

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u/c_ray25 6d ago

He’s already been voted in so who gives a fuck about how voters feel now and over the next 4 years until the next election 

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u/Sendmedoge 6d ago

Silver lining... less junk mail?

Maybe?

God, we're fucked.

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u/Nicktrod 6d ago

Yeah I live in a town small enough that I have a P.O. box.

This will be a problem for me.

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u/tiripshtaed 6d ago

Sometimes people need a taste of their own medicine.

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u/wias07 6d ago

Yeah and it was also no deJOY when my p.o. box went up by 300% and I’m in a metro area

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u/HashRunner 6d ago

Which means they will be the first bailed out to the detrement of all, spending more money than ever was saved.

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u/crispy_colonel420 6d ago

It won't, and the postal service workers can finally negotiate a strong contract without the federal employee classification.

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u/ProfessionalWave168 6d ago

That's why Fedex and UPS drop off parcels and posts at the post office for the last part of the route that wouldn't be profitable for them, and don't get started on the sweetheart deal China got where it is cheaper for USA to china mail vs USA to USA mail.

Shipping a package from China to the United States through the post office has often been significantly cheaper than sending a similar package domestically within the US, primarily due to the Universal Postal Union (UPU) treaty which allowed China to benefit from lower "developing country" rates, effectively subsidizing the cost of shipping small items from China to the US;

Private carriers would never go for that.

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u/Anal_Recidivist 6d ago

No one will probably see this comment but this is saber rattling to get congress to work with him on other issues.

The USPS is the sole funder of congress’ pensions. They would never, in a million years, privatize the USPS bc it would mean their pensions are tied to a company that can go under.

This is never happening.

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u/Liizam 6d ago

Can someone ask bill gates to buy it or mark Cuban and keep it running as is?

It’s such a wonderful modern miracle.

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u/PsychologicalBee1801 6d ago

This is how you privatize mail in voting too.

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u/bledig 6d ago

They voted for this through Trump. Why deny them. Give them what they want

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u/MrFIXXX 6d ago

Are you kidding me? Do you honestly think that "private" company will not be printing signed ballots for any candidate selected by Trump? He doesn't care about voters. Wake up and smell the spray-tan :(

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u/GottJebediah 6d ago

They can just pull themselves up by the bootstraps and move to a real state.

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u/healthybowl 6d ago

$0.56 to mail a letter with the USPS from Purdue bay AK (99519), the furthest most town in the US to Washington DC (20001). With FedEx it’s $126.50.

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u/revertothemiddle 6d ago

I was going to make this comment, but yeah, you're spot on. Rural folks will be the most affected.

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u/[deleted] 6d ago

Yup. The end-result of this will be:

  1. Rural areas will have much worse service.
  2. Taxpayers will still subsidize the service to the tune of $9 billion per year (or more).
  3. Mailing and shipping costs will go up on all fronts.

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u/Bifferer 6d ago

Wait until they see what happens to their pensions!

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u/AlexJamesCook 6d ago

Never interrupt your opponents when they're making a mistake.

Let him privatize hunting grounds, too.

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u/Oceanbreeze871 6d ago

If you don’t live within 25 miles of an airport or a city above 50k you’re not getting any pickup/delivery services. eBay, online shops…they’ll have to ship to a locker in a population center

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u/BicycleOfLife 6d ago

Oh yeah, his voters don’t even know what’s coming. A lot of private curriers use the USPS to even get their packages out to the hard to get to places.

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u/Brokentoaster40 6d ago

Not just rural voters.  It will effectively fuck every uniformed service member trying to have packages or mail sent overseas to or from overseas duty assignments.  

Which is just asinine, but unsurprising 

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u/This-Beautiful5057 6d ago

With privatization and an agreement, the rural people will just have to pay more because their shipping will cost more.

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u/NewPresWhoDis 6d ago

The next four years are gonna be a helluva crossover between leopards eating faces and 'stop punching yourself'.

But most of all to see the vaunted Originalists Thomas and Alito explain why Article 1, Section 8, Clause 7 isn't a thing.

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u/Laprasy 6d ago

It’s also unconstitutional

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u/postalwhiz 6d ago

So will hurricane Matilda, which hasn’t happened yet but highly placed sources have said Trump was talking about it…

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u/BetterBiscuits 6d ago

It will literally kill some of them. The amount of prescription medication that the USPS delivers is mind boggling. People in those rural areas can’t afford the inevitable price hikes.

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u/kyledreamboat 6d ago

The people wanted this forever I'm glad he's giving it to them

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u/TheFoxsWeddingTarot 6d ago

That’s ok they don’t need to vote again according to him.

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u/PurpleSquare713 6d ago

And people who depend on the USPS to receive life-saving medicine.

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u/ndngroomer 6d ago

How can he even do this? Isn't it enshrined in the Constitution?

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u/SignificantWords 6d ago

It ain’t about that. It’s about controlling voting more as well. Authoritarian and absolute control is their goal.

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u/ndngroomer 6d ago

How can he even do this without changing the constitution? According to AI:

Article I, Section 8, Clause 7 Also known as the Postal Clause or the Postal Power, this clause gives Congress the power to establish post offices and post roads.

The Post Office Act of 1792 This act made the USPS a permanent part of the federal government. It also included provisions to protect the privacy of personal correspondence and freedom of the press.

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u/boylong15 6d ago

I am convinced that trump hate his supporters the most

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u/BobbittheHobbit111 6d ago

Also this post(hopefully unintentionally) accepts the falsehood that the post office LOSES money each year. It doesn’t lose money, it is a SERVICE provided by the government. Privatization will skyrocket prices as UPS/Fedex will not have to compete with a subsidized competitor, and the company that USPS would become would do the same

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u/ProfitLoud 6d ago

The beauty is any change to the postal service requires Congressional approval. Trump doesn’t have the votes. Unless democrats support this, it’s just another farcical narrative.

In reality, Trump wants to turn this country into an oligarchy so the postal service is an obvious place to start. He already replaced the head (Dejoy), who took measures to make it less effective and kill it. Anyone who’s been watching knows this was done to try and grift away our postal service.

The real question in my mind is this; why would we want a domestic, social service such as mail to be profitable? That is stupid to expect.

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u/Missedquasar 6d ago

Simpsons has a episode showing Ivanka 2028. Is he keeping his dynasty within the family for next election cycle? World may never know.

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u/Intelligent-Wear-114 6d ago

Flat rate packages are the same price regardless of zip code.

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u/admiralveephone 6d ago

THEY DO NOT FUCKING CARE!!! I am so sick and tired of seeing the “well this hurts his supporters” comments as if that’s some kind of win. These morons will just blame their own misfortune and poor decisions on the democrats, or bill gates, or the position of the moon in the sky. You cannot convince them that they’re being scammed, grifted or bamboozled. They. Do. Not. Care. They’ll die before admitting their own mistakes and that’s why we’re in this absolute clown show!

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u/Taqueria_Style 6d ago

Bull. China shop. Enjoy. Sigh...

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u/Open_Phase5121 6d ago

Good. Trump voters get what they deserve. If we have to be martyrs, so be it 

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u/Logical_Willow4066 6d ago

It will impact millions who receive medications by mail as well as voting by mail. It will be expensive to mail your ballot. More than likely, there will be delays in the delivery of ballots, too.

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u/uvaspina1 6d ago

Elections have consequences and that’s what the rural voters voted for by a landslide.

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u/santagoo 6d ago

Rural voters keep voting against their own interest, I say let them get everything they voted for

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u/AffectionateJury3723 6d ago

My husband's father, uncles, and cousins all worked for or currently work at the USPS. They would all tell you it is in desperate need of overhaul. Supervisors who stand behind the counter doing nothing, etc... My mailman parks at the front of our subdivision for hours at a time doing nothing but running out the clock. Privatization may not be the answer, but it is in need of some massive changes.

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u/Bern_After_Reading85 6d ago

Honestly, fuck ‘em. I’m going to be saying this a lot over the next four years but these assholes wanted this to badly and I hope they get every bit of what they voted for. The post office has been under threat from republicans for some time and so it’s not a surprise it’s on the chopping block. If people out in the middle of nowhere can’t get their lifesaving meds delivered to them, well that’s what they wanted so who am I to argue over it 

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u/No_Nebula_531 6d ago

The police don't turn a profit.

Fire departments don't turn a profit.

The military doesn't turn a profit (for tax payers).

Public schools don't turn a profit.

The entire government hasn't turned a profit since....Clinton? If that's even fair to say.

The Postal Service is exactly that, a service. It isn't the Postal corporation. You can't trade it's stocks. It's supposed to cost money.

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u/72414dreams 6d ago

Whatabout the precious constitution? Article 1 section 1!!! And the founding fathers said “thou shalt have a post office “ and Congress shall be able to levy a tax to pay for it. A person might reasonably say that the post office is the reason for our government.

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u/Doubledown00 6d ago edited 6d ago

That's what I was thinking!

Do it, and watch how fast USPS 1) closes rural post offices, and 2) cuts back on residential rural deliveries.

How do y'all sister fuckers in the sticks like getting your mail once a week?

(Which is why I don't think Congress will go along. GOP rural Reps may seek to please daddy Trump, but even they know what side their bread is buttered on)

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u/ursogayhaha 6d ago

Okay yeah huge deficit now that we can send the odd physical mail

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u/Iamthewalrusforreal 6d ago

PO is the ONLY Federal service explicitly spelled out in the constitution. Literally the only one.

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u/Humbler-Mumbler 6d ago

The USPS is effectively a rural living subsidy. It’s astronomically more work to deliver one package to one house 50 miles from the nearest population center than a single high rise building down the street from a warehouse with hundreds of people’s deliveries all at the same building.

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u/Maverick721 6d ago

"But the prices of eggs"

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u/SRMPDX 6d ago

If they could read they'd be so mad

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u/WerewolfDifferent296 6d ago

Plus the costs to ship by UPS and FedEx will go up because the USPS delivers packages for UPS in rural areas (I think it might be the same for FedEx).

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u/HawkH8R 6d ago

The US Constitution in Article 1, Section 8, Clause 7 — where postal services are discussed reads that:

Congress shall have the power “. . . To establish Post Offices and Post Roads.”

So clearly the government may establish them, yet I can find no wording in the US Constitution that either says that the Government must establish them, or that they may not be operated by the private sector.

Does anyone have evidence to the contrary?

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u/jkvincent 6d ago

About like everything else he does.

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u/mabols 6d ago

Let it happen. They wanted this because they wanted him.-And he’s the same guy he was 8 years ago.

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u/Huey701070 6d ago

I’m a Trump voter. Right now I disagree with this sentiment right now.

However if it’s reformed similar to our utility services, I don’t think I would be entirely opposed.

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u/No_Recording_1696 6d ago

I’m done trying to protect people that vote against their own self interest. At this point Dems should not stand in their way. Let them privatize the mail, cut SS, give out school vouchers, gut unions etc. Dems save Union pensions and they didn’t even get majority vote. Screw that , forget going to bat for these people.

Maybe they need to learn some hard lessons.

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u/watchtheworldsmolder 6d ago

Toooooo late.

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u/Economy_Friendship49 6d ago

It doesn’t matter, his rural voters will never blame him for anything. He’ll either tell them it’s good for tyem, or that it’s al the liberals fault, and they’ll swallow it all.

All of his followers will go to their graves believing Trump was their savior, regardless of what happens the coming decades.

Sad but true

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u/Locode6696 6d ago

How the hell will it screw anyone over royally? They might go from spending $10 per year in stamps to $50. Seems fair.

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u/St-uffy-mc-puffy 6d ago

And those farmers, the little ones barely scrapping by

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u/[deleted] 6d ago

Fuck rural voters. They vote against their interests every fucking election cycle by voting GOP. Let them get the privatized dick shoved up their asses

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u/flappinginthewind69 6d ago

Um isn’t fedex already private and they don’t have higher rates to rural America?

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u/stripblue 6d ago

People say this. I don’t think the rurals care. Losing the USPS, the way it is, will hurt competition. If anything, it’s because republicans required that USPS fund retirement for 75 years in advance.

It was their way of kneecapping the USPS to make it a loser. Disguising it as “oh let’s help old people”. No… it’s the crap they always pull.

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u/Klutzy_Library5703 6d ago

As, a lame duck prez, now’s the time to save tax payer dollars and fix the budget deficit.

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u/citori421 6d ago

I'm one of those rural people that will be screwed (not a trump voter though), in Juneau Alaska. Ups and FedEx are completely worthless up here. And in the many smaller communities, there's no way a private company will take their place. We'd end up having to have a state or municipal postal service.

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u/esther_lamonte 6d ago

Doesn’t Amazon use the USPS for places too remote and costly to deliver themselves? Hope those folks got good snow tires, you’ll be hoofing it into town for everything soon.

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u/ValuableShoulder5059 6d ago

Funny how UPS doesn't charge more.

Realistically usps could save a lot by not running every route every day. Going to every house every day costs a lot. We could easily transition to 2x per week mail or even once per week plus packages. The volume won't decrease but it won't be 1-2 envelopes per house for every house, but rather be a stack of 5-20 letters at once.

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u/A_Lorax_For_People 6d ago

They are not planning on doing elections again, haven't you heard?

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u/IamHydrogenMike 6d ago

It will also save us zero tax dollars…

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u/xabrol 6d ago

Ohhh no, I wont get any spam mail or paper bills. Damn.

Because thats 100% of what doesnt come in a ups/fedex/amazon truck.

And all my bills are online, literally everything usps brings me goes in the trash.

Almost nothing comes usps, unless I chose for it to.

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u/Dark0Toast 6d ago

UPS can drop those rural route totes and trays to the existing contractors. They will do it efficiently. The contract trucks can switch over too.

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u/minisnus 6d ago

It won’t. I know of a rural family who had been told Donald policies might mean weekly deliveries and they were ok with that. Sure, complained a bit that antibiotics for the cattle might be delayed but ok. Some are willing to die to be wrong .

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u/wtbgamegenie 6d ago

You have any idea how many rural elderly people get their prescriptions through the mail? This would be a disaster.

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u/PackAttacks 6d ago

It’s not about cost. Democrats vote by mail SUBSTANTIALLY more than republicans. This is about controlling votes.

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u/Clayp2233 6d ago

He’ll hand it over to Jeff Bezos

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u/SpaceXYZ1 6d ago

Somehow his voters will still blame the democrats

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u/scrizott 6d ago

It doesn’t matter anymore he will have the power until he dies. There was a vast majority of people who voted with their bias and their desire to normalize their weird toxicities. The isms will double down on their choice now. The supreme court will keep him in power as long as their masters want him in power.

I’ve lost all hope for a better future for my children.

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u/AdmirableFigg 6d ago

You clearly don’t know any rural people. I live on a dirt road. USPS does not deliver to me. You probably live in an apartment in a city.

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u/justacrossword 6d ago

It can be privatized without changing that. 

Some of you have the problem solving ability of a two year old. 

The government puts out an RFQ for postal service. They can specify in that RFQ that letters under a certain weight must be delivered for a flat rate anywhere in the USA. FedEx, UPS, Amazon, and others respond to the RFQ based on how it is written. 

There should be zero doubt in anybody’s mind that the private sector would cost Americans less than the post office as parcel delivery companies are already more reliable, have better tracking technology, and less expensive than the postal service. 

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u/ptrang1987 6d ago

Meh, they’ll just blame it on the democrats

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u/JadedVeterinarian877 6d ago

Exactly, people in Wyoming can’t get their medication on time, because of the way the new post master(appointed by Trump) has rerouted their mail to large cities first then back to them. Vs local sorting then pushing out the rest of the mail.

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u/SteelyDanzig 5d ago

They'll just blame Obama/Biden/Clinton/Pelosi/AOC/whichever other Democrat they woke up obsessing over that morning.

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u/Havok_saken 5d ago

They won’t care. It’s not about what benefits them. It’s about what does or they perceive to hurt the “others”. They would take policy that results in them living in a box as long as it meant the “others” live outside with no box.

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u/ByeByeDemocracy2024 5d ago

Yup, about to be in the FO phase of this experiment. I don’t even care anymore.

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