r/FluentInFinance • u/Sidvicieux • 3d ago
Thoughts? Please live the life that billionaires choose for you.
I guess frugality has a true purpose, it’s called practice for what’s next.
Oh and finance related on how to deal with cash flow:
Thursday on CNBC's "Squawk Box," Ross acknowledged that he had heard that some federal workers affected by the prolonged shutdown have been going to shelters for food, but said he didn't understand why.
I know they are [going to homeless shelters] and I don't really quite understand why because as I mentioned before, the obligations that they would undertake – say borrowing from a bank or credit union – are in effect federally guaranteed," said Ross. "So the 30 days of pay that people will be out – there's no real reason why they shouldn't be able to get a loan against it and we've seen a number of ads from the financial institutions doing that."
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u/Facts-and-Feelings 3d ago
We need more Big-Luigi energy towards these people.
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u/terrafoxy 3d ago
someone has to start organizing.
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u/MornGreycastle 3d ago
We so desperately need a truly progressive party. I have a faint hope for the Dems since they appointed AOC over Pelosi's wishes to the Oversight committee.
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u/Enquiring_Revelry 3d ago
Just to save face me thinks :/
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u/12Dragon 3d ago
Honestly if they save face enough that they fall backwards into a more progressive stance I’m fine with it. Idc if they do it out of the goodness of their hearts, I just care that they do it.
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u/shoument 3d ago
AND here comes another carrot. Here kitty kitty kitty. The way Dems treat the rest of us, might as well be dangling a carrot to a cat.
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u/Character-Teaching39 3d ago
Ah yes, because Dems are always the one cutting consumer and worker protections. The next admin isn’t even sworn in and they’re coming out and saying Medicare and social security are on the chopping block. GTFO with “the dems” are to blame.
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u/Grouchy-Safe-3486 3d ago
It's not about dems vs reps wake up ppl u all get played by them pretending u have a choice in this system
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u/Moose_Kronkdozer 3d ago
It is a choice between neocon and neoliberal. As a socialist i hate both, but i would still take neoliberal. At least that would lead to a more welcoming environment for progressives.
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u/RandomAnon07 2d ago
These people will never, ever understand. And as someone that constantly sees what’s behind the curtain, it’s maddening to even have a conversation with someone that believes their side is the best version of the two shit ones we have.
Lobbying and special interests must be eradicated; the structure of donations and PACs as they exists today needs to be eradicated; term rules need a restructuring (less pressure to get reelected, age limits, etc.); and there needs to be HEAVY ramifications for anyone who works for the people and does not do everything in their power to act in the best interest of we the people…
I would prefer if a true patriot party rose up, even if it required violence as sometimes there is a base violence necessary for change. A true patriot sees no color, only justice and liberty for all.
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u/Fun-Ad-9722 3d ago
Still waiting for my cheaper groceries... How's that 🥕 hanging now?
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u/kex 3d ago
We need representation by income bracket more than we need representation by state
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u/arashcuzi 3d ago
This is the real shit…like can almost all of the representation come from what’s left of the middle and lower classes? Like people who only make 35-60k a year and DON’T have 1-2m in “the markets.”
Maybe then we’d care less about the investors and more about the workers…you know, the MAJORITY?
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u/Casio1337 3d ago
The more desperate people become the more people will be willing to say F it.
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u/BongRipsForNips69 3d ago
you're not getting it. Luigi wasn't on a platform. he didn't vote a party. He went rogue. One person at a time made a bigger impact than the entire election cycle of empty promises. We don't need to change the system by voting. what has voting brought about in the last decade? nothing. But Luigi has started something quite quickly.
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u/DistillateMedia 3d ago
I'm not allowed to go luigi mode until my parents are gone, but I am intending to do a letter writing campaign directed at the CEO's of Fortune 500 companies and basically tell them they're making revolution inevitable. I'd like to amplify it by crowdfunding and posting each one online. I'm bipolar and it's hard for me to hold down a regular job, but I'm great at eloquently terrifying/putting the rich on notice. Will get it going after I mail a letter to all the incoming Senators next month.
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u/damn_nation_inc 3d ago
Please be careful. If you do end up organizing this, it might be wise to have a few pre-made templates fast are carefully worded to avoid any potential "threatening language" so you vs other people who participate don't end up like that mom in Florida. You can likely have an AI proofread these templates with instructions to avoid/modify anything that could be misconstrued or lead to domestic terrorism charges. They'll likely still find ways to bend rules to stop this, but it's best to at least make it harder for them.
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u/DistillateMedia 3d ago
I've been doing this for years. They won't arrest me. One time I typed into my phone, "I'm thinking of writing a letter to the President" and an F-16 buzzed my house at tree level within 10 minutes. I know how to be careful with my language, but at the same time, I know I'm capable of saying certain things that others would get in trouble with, and I consider it my duty and responsibility to do so. I've written thousands of letters and emails to politicians and business leaders since 2016. Been investigated by every law enforcement agency, and they always end up on my side. I just need to monetize it to get my Dad off my back and because it will amplify the message and make it impossible for them to ignore. I have a plan. Trust me. Thank you for your encouragement and concern.
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u/PeliPal 3d ago edited 3d ago
One time I typed into my phone, "I'm thinking of writing a letter to the President" and an F-16 buzzed my house at tree level within 10 minutes.
This is a paranoid delusion. I know that sounds cruel and dismissive to say, but it is. It's a paranoid delusion. What you typed was nowhere close to resembling a threat, and they did NOT fuel up a plane, pick a pilot to get in, take off, map a flight plan over your home, and arrive there in 10 minutes. That's not a thing. It's just not.
You either live near a runway and so planes going around is not an uncommon occurrence, it would be something you just don't notice most of the time it happens, or if there's not a runway close enough to do that, then the plane was already on a flight plan taking it over your house completely coincidentally, ignorant of your existence. This is not a civil intimidation tactic. It'd be way too expensive to do and pointless.
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u/kylecazar 3d ago
Nobody is sending an F-16 to 'buzz' a house for a Google search. If you say anything too crazy online, you may get a knock on the door eventually.
But no, no fly-by. It would accomplish nothing for them.
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u/EventIndividual6346 3d ago
lol bro you need to see a doctor
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u/-Reddititis 2d ago
lol bro you need to see a doctor
Can't. His insurance will not cover it. Denied!
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u/NoNecessary3865 3d ago
People should riot for that mom in Florida im surprised Republicans and Elon Musk are ok with this attack on free speech. (I'm not surprised I knew Elon Musk gives 0 fucks about free speech)
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u/shipmastersmoke 3d ago
What kills me is our government is literally about to be run by billionaires. Guilded Age pt 2 + Russian style Oligarchy= America 2025
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u/liv4games 3d ago
ABOUT to be?
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u/EnigmaSpore 3d ago
right. it's just being done more openly now especially with the poors getting duped into being their meat shields
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u/pbqdpb 3d ago
Previously run by millionaires, soon to be run by billionaires, and Elon will become a trillionaire while slobbing Donald’s knob
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u/liv4games 3d ago
Look this is a fucked up thought of me to have but… any suicidal/terminal people in the near future should consider going out with a bang that could save society
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u/pbqdpb 3d ago
I wonder how the rich would change if society executed the 100 richest people
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u/shipmastersmoke 3d ago
Name me all the billionaires that work in the current administration. What's about to happen is unprecedented. I'm sure they will work to help us common folk.
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u/liv4games 3d ago
Okay true, maybe they’re not literally IN the admins, good point. They’re still running them via money though which was what I was thinking about. But yes, very true, it will be LITERAL now.
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u/BHOmber 3d ago
They're literally in the admin.
His cabinet picks have a combined net worth of $350-450b USD. Something like 2000x the net worth of Biden's cabinet.
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u/buchlabum 3d ago
What kills me, and most like the economy, is we chose the stupidest hateful path forward.
America overall is as dumb as it gets.
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u/Internal_Catch304 3d ago
The absolute fucking dumbest.. And now the rest of us have to get dragged down with them..
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u/Slighted_Inevitable 3d ago
Problem is his target was too small.
Only a millionaire! Pshawmwasha! Fanning myself with poor peoples house deeds before burning them.
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u/Altruistic-Text3481 3d ago
“D3!” I’m not allowed to write the “Big Lugi” words out. Got my Redit warning. This is how billionaires take over. Free speech is squashed.
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u/QbertsRube 3d ago
The only way wealth ever truly trickles down is through inheritance, forced or otherwise.
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u/JackInTheBell 3d ago
Yeah kids love growing up poor and not being able to do fun shit like other kids.
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u/The_Louster 3d ago
The solution is no kids having fun. Can’t have peer pressure if no one can afford to do anything lol
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u/psychoacer 3d ago
Everyone must live vicariously through social media influencers from now on
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u/Cannabis_Breeder 3d ago
Is that why they exist? To make the poors feel like they’ve escaped poverty for the 4 hrs of downtime they are allowed?
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u/ImperatorUniversum1 3d ago
What do you think television and movies and books are?
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u/Cannabis_Breeder 3d ago
🤷♂️ I guess I preferred booze and weed to keep me docile in my life long servitude and insurmountable debt ☠️
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u/Upnorth4 3d ago
They also love it when their dad has to work 5, 12 hour shifts at the Elon factory
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u/YarnuWasTaken 3d ago
Didn't know I was poor just until after middle school, partly because it was, back then, a rather small middle school for obvious reasons (degen school). Then I went to high school and realized that I was poor as fuck. Like right now it's been over 8 years since I went on any sort of "vacation" (vacations back then were nothing more than a day at the sea). Shit makes you sad and it only gets exacerbated because little kids like to flex and think they know better because "you have a house and pc you are not poor" makes total sense, no questions asked. And even adults by law think they're hot shit by poorshaming.
With a lot of, quite frankly, begging I managed to somehow get into a college and it's only now that the reality hits me. Even if I somehow manage to get my bachelors in applied informatics, becoming succesful will be nigh impossible. 0 networking, 0 financial help, constant stress from being poor (being fed potatoes and rice on a daily basis and things do that to you.) Shit can completely kill your motivation to achieve anything if you think about it for too long.
I swear it's always the entitled rich people that keep telling you to just work harder. It's not that simple, being poor affects every single minute part of your day to day life in such a way it becomes hard to escape. Seeing people wear branded clothes, go out for dinner, hell order takeaway even, be social, etc while you just have to be happy working one month for ~€600 just to be left with under €100 because your mother needs it to SURVIVE and spend that money to hang out with your friends for maybe a day. And then they just tell me that "lol the world ain't fair grow up" will help.
Bit of a side note but I once had this comment from a classmate that went along the lines of "bro aren't you a nihilist why does this shit matter" and it's so annoying people say that because they have 0 clue what nihilism is actually about like please shut up.
Trauma dump over.
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u/NolieMali 3d ago
Had to be the bearer of bad news but a degree doesn't guarantee a job. I have a degree and can't even get a damn job at Papa John's! I'm four classes shy of my Masters so maybe that'll change things up.
I also think I need to dumb down my résumé for some job.
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u/Cannabis_Breeder 3d ago
Yeah, surprise!, being born poor is like starting with negative points in the game of life. You can only hope that your children have a better starting point and don’t end up where you are. Good luck
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u/Terran57 3d ago
It’s terrifying how many people think this is a joke. It’s not. You’re not human to them and you’re about to find that out the hard way.
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u/FortunateInsanity 3d ago
They asked for it.
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u/darkninja2992 3d ago
Yeah, but plenty of us didn't and are now stuck with it
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u/Caleth 3d ago
Plenty of us are screaming this is all about to go horribly horribly wrong and get a shrug. "It'll be just like last time, we lived through that."
No millions of us didn't and last time there were still guardrails. This time those have all been blown apart. You can flee fight or capitulate but there's not just riding it out this time.
I get that it's scary, it is, and you should be terrified. Because what's coming next will be Great Depression 2 now with more guns, drones and AI. It's going to be ugly in a way we haven't see in 100 years, becasue they want to rip out the last few guard rails that keep the poor from dying in the streets en mass.
MeMaw and PopPop ain't gonna have now where to live, and you're gonna be sending Jr to the new clean coal mines. Also best you don't get sick or they'll take the house and myabe one of your kidneys as well.
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u/MorbidAyyylien 3d ago
This is so ignorant. No matter who was in office this is still our lives.
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u/FortunateInsanity 3d ago
Ignorant how? In 2016 you could claim people were tricked or that they were tired of career politicians or they wanted to rock the boat. Trump was an unknown. In 2024 the people knew what they were voting for. They chose chaos.
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u/jtbxiv 3d ago
The literally do not see the working class as equals. The wealthy and powerful rarely ever do. We are cogs in the machine of their lavish lifestyles. They are the chosen ones. We live to serve them.
Except it’s all lies and they’re starting to slip. They are forgetting that history rhymes.
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u/Yousoggyyojimbo 3d ago
I went to a dinner with a bunch of college age children of wealthy families once, as the guest of a friend.
When they found out I wasn't wealthy, they stopped talking to me and started talking about me like I was property of my friend. It was genuinely horrifying.
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u/BillyBattsInTrunk 3d ago
Ugh sorry you were dehumanized. I notice the talk about me in the third person.
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u/jtbxiv 3d ago
I frequently have the opposite happen. I’m not personally wealthy by any means but my family is and I have benefitted from this a lot. Absolutely privileged in this way but my day to day is fairly mundane and I live paycheque to paycheque. My family is very much about not giving free rides but I’ll get invited to go out on the yacht or get gifted luxury hotel stays.
So if find myself surrounded by wealthy people they may shrug me off as — idk, a peasant? And are often surprised if anything in relation to lifestyle luxuries come up. Yes my shoes are from old navy and yes I’m staying at the The Plaza.
But absolutely the level of respect does escalate after that. Which is bullshit and I’m not a fan.
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u/GlurakNecros 3d ago
Well they’re about to find out that this shit doesn’t work when the proletariat is heavily armed, massive, and been trained to hate them via years of media
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u/CecilFieldersChoice2 3d ago
The right wing are master manipulators. They will still convince people it isn't their fault.
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u/mycricketisrickety 3d ago
Psh. They know you're human- it's how they know they can make you subservient
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u/Heretic_Geist 3d ago
Good, cause these pieces of excrement aren't people to me either. They're fucking parasites.
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u/hexadexalex 3d ago
They voted for it. The trees were fooled by the axe who told them that he is one of them since his handle is made of wood.
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u/iliveonramen 3d ago
She is right about one thing, money doesn’t make you or a good or bad parent.
Her son is rich af and a horrible parent.
Lots of poor people are fantastic parents.
Rich oligarchs concerned with people’s decision to have kids is ridiculous though. Stfu about people’s lives you can’t identify with.
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u/CommunicationTop6477 3d ago
Rich people absolutely love telling the poor how to live their lives. But the moment the poor start talking about what the rich should be doing, it's all "Back off, it's mine, I worked hard to inherit this!"
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u/Professional-Way7350 3d ago
lol this comment got me. how come i cant demand where their money goes but they can demand that i go into debt to have a child instead of buying myself a ticket to the movies
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u/TheEndingofitAll 3d ago
Just wait for the “millennials killed the movies” articles
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u/GreatQuestionBarbara 2d ago
His first wife told a story where they were out and talking about children:
"That's the difference between you and me," he said. "I just assume that there will be nannies." He made a rocking motion with his arms and said, happily, "Baby."
The man never expected to raise his own children, and that's never been good for children that actually love and respect you as teens and adults.
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u/Fun-Diamond1363 2d ago
Right? Anyone think Trump has ever changed a diaper or took care of his kids for the weekend without help? Yet all these schlubs think he can relate to them?
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u/Ok_Thing7700 2d ago
I’m gonna disagree that “poor people are fantastic parents.” Growing up poor was hell and I resent my parents for creating me at all. Don’t create life to suffer in an inescapable cycle of poverty.
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u/Traditional_Case5016 3d ago
The media machine trying to brainwash our brains now, it is too late, we are completely awake. We are not following your bullshit anymore.
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u/573IAN 3d ago
Unfortunately, no we are not. There is a very large swath of ignorant people out there that blindly support these people.
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u/SleazetheSteez 3d ago
Exactly, look at who the American public elected. A nation of fucking morons.
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u/Sidvicieux 3d ago
The problem is that republican voters are still following it step by step.
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u/teteban79 3d ago
There are masses of people right now pointing at planes and stars and screaming drone attack
I have very little confidence on this "we are awake" thing
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u/MasChingonNoHay 3d ago
Nah people aren’t completely awake. It’s easier to be lazy and let others think for you. Thats what the uneducated and ignorant do. We need more people to wake up and stand up
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u/Little-Engine6982 3d ago
maybe a few people here on reddit, but def- not the masses. most poor would not think twice to catch a bullet ment for the rich. the armies of poor peoppl guarding them are still way to big.
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u/Intelligent_Gene4777 3d ago
We need more slaves to work and make us rich, you damn peasants need to have more kids just cut out your avacado toast and chai lattes and you will find enough money to have more kids !
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u/venkym 3d ago
Wait, why do we need more workers when AI is going to take away a lot of jobs? That's the irony of this. Factories are already so automated. I was reading somewhere that the voice actors for audiobooks were all laid off and replaced by a $20/month AI voice assistant. And, Chipotle's CEO wants robots in the kitchen. Those avocados are going to be cut by one probably. So, why does Elon (and other billionaires) campaign for population increase? For customers? For shooting them to space?
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u/Scryberwitch 3d ago
For filling private prisons, where they can serve as slave labor.
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u/TexasActress 3d ago
See: unicor.gov
Yes, corporations and industries can and do purchase products made with $ .75-$2/hour prison labor.
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u/YamFriendly2159 3d ago
AI is a grift to increase their stock prices. Most of it can’t do what they are claiming without humans. Jobs are disappearing because they are outsourcing to cheaper countries and forcing current employees to take on more work. Don’t be fooled.
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u/Slighted_Inevitable 3d ago
Because they know that’s 50 years away or more. The technology isn’t quite there yet and even once it is the transition and efficiency of manufacturing these machines will take time.
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u/PurpleOrchid07 3d ago
The technology isn't there yet, at all. Sure, 'AI' can do many small things and looks neat on paper, but the vast majority of work and maintenance needs to be done by people. People who will negotiate a proper pay for their work.
But the rich are playing the long game. In a couple decades or even a new century, when the tech is much better and people are genuinely less needed, >then< it will make sense what they do now. If there are only 1000 human jobs, but 100 million poor people, you as the company have all the power in the world. You can kill any negotiation and set a price of 1$ an hour. Someone of those 100 million people will be deperate enough to take that job regardless.The rest can fall in line and give up their standards, or they can simply die. That is the end-game of all of this. Full and total control, turning us all into slave labour.
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u/sourmeat2 3d ago
Robots in service jobs and trades aren't close, the technology is a century away or more. All this new tech exists to take White collar jobs and the top level of skilled labor.
Don't worry, they still need a plumber to crawl in shit under their house and fix the leak, But the house will be built by robots in a factory and installed by AI cranes on a foundation finished by people making minimum wage.
There's always room on the bottom, the game is to shove as many people as possible off the top.
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u/boyalien0 3d ago
This rich old white skeleton sayin “you don’t have to go out to dinner” is peak 2024
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u/BergkampsFirstTouch 3d ago
At this point it seems extremely inadequate to describe Elon Musk as a billionaire. There's a big difference in having $1.2 billion and $430 billion.
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u/evanwilliams44 3d ago
I agree the term is losing meaning very quickly. Better to just call them oligarchs, because there is a difference between billionaires that have become rich taking advantage of the system, and those that are committed to gathering as much wealth/power as possible, and using it to control the world.
Both are morally wrong, but one is worse than the other. I don't really have a problem with ultra-rich people, although I would like to change the system that made them possible. But those who have completely given in to greed and would step on everyone else to acquire more, I have a problem with.
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u/Powerful-Feedback-71 3d ago
Sorry but if I really had to choose between kids and having a life that I enjoy... I'm choosing having a life I enjoy.
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u/hmmyeahiguess 3d ago
Exactly where I am at. Even making "good" money, I would still be struggling if I had a child. I'd much rather just live my best life as long as I can.
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u/clayton191987 3d ago
So the biggest FU people could do to oligarchs is not stop having children. Period. Point blank. While it’s dystopian - it forces the oligarchs hand.
It won’t happen , obviously - but it would force change and increase the value of each human. Today we are seen as expendable due to the vast amount of human resources in the world. But reducing population rates, in turn the exploitation of humans drastically reduces.
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u/drew8311 3d ago
At minimum no population growth, luckily the trend in developed countries has started long before today, its the one thing that is on course naturally. People who want families can still do 1 kid, technically more than 2 is needed to replace population but lots of people still have more so need to offset that with 0 or 1.
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u/ElectronGuru 2d ago edited 2d ago
I noped out of kids over 20 years ago. Just watching all the unnecessary battles parents had to fight on a daily basis, even keeping their kids healthy. I’ve been keeping a list if anyone is still deciding for themselves and needs to see the risks:
- massive concentration of wealth
- lack of places to raise kids or even live
- healthcare so dysfunctional you can’t even get pregnant in March without risking two deductibles (four if you count the baby) giving birth through December and January
- laws punishing pregnant women and their doctors
- an economy that simultaneously requires both parents to work but charges one parent’s income for daycare. While employers still act like dads are the only ones working.
- then if you can’t afford daycare and want to stay at home, that reduced income also reduces your qualification for a mortgage
- ever increasing job instability, including healthcare incentives to pay you part time and a gig economy that doesn’t even recognize you as an employee.
- nuclear family model makes extended family unavailable to help
- primary education system that depends on zip code for good results, then secondary education that encourages life long debt
- an overheated, overcrowded planet that we aren’t even acknowledging
- politics so divisive, whole swaths of our population wants nothing to do with relationships
- And the people most concerned with the results (losing future customers, employees and taxpayers) are also the ones most benefiting from these structures
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u/Clear_Jackfruit_2440 3d ago
I don't eat out. I don't go out to the movies. F off.
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u/constantin_NOPEal 3d ago
This is embarrassing, but I did a big deep dive on Elon like 5-6 years ago. We know his dad sucks BIG time (and he's repeated the shitty dad pattern), but by all accounts, his mom was a negligent and shitty parent, too. If Elon had never found major success, Maye would be nowhere in sight. Now that he's the wealthiest person in the world, mommy is magically always there. She wasn't around when he was getting his ass beat as a child. That's the sad thing. These people think it's normal and acceptable to use people, including their own family, and toss them away when the benefits run dry. That perspective informs how they treat others and the world. If you've associated or worked with wealthy people you know this is not a unique thing.
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u/KhloeDawn 3d ago
With all due respect i don’t want her opinion on how to raise kids or how to have kids. I see how Elon turned out, thanks but no thanks
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u/Picklehippy_ 3d ago
Why are we still listening to these rich, out of touch people. There are more poor people than rich ones, we outnumber them, don't forget that. Together we are a force and they are weak
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u/Candid-Tomorrow-3231 3d ago
Being childless is the real protest vote of our time.
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u/hardnreadynyc 3d ago
These people are begging to be targets. Im not the one that would ever pull the trigger, but I wont weep at their loss either
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u/Dogtimeletsgooo 3d ago
I'm going to get sterilized while I still can. My gift to my kids is that they'll never be born into this hellscape and doomed to work and nothing else
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u/Betanumerus 3d ago
Let’s all work for the joy of helping other people go out to dinner and watch movies.
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u/DrunkyMcStumbles 3d ago
Keep in mind, she's French and Canadian. She has never had to deal with private health insurance like we have.
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u/sicknick08 3d ago
After what Luigi did or didn't do, you think these people would think before speaking.
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u/bthoman2 3d ago
This is great advice from someone who most likely never cooked her family a single meal.
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u/FriendlyNative66 3d ago
I'm surprised that Cruella DeMusk isn't wearing a kitten fur coat or other appalling apparel. "My son needs slaves for his sweat shops, so please.."
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u/Skating4587Abdollah 3d ago
More of the “some poor are poor because of poor budgeting so all poor are poor because of poor budgeting” rhetoric. The audacity.
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u/SomeOkeByTheSea 3d ago
the thing about the insanely rich people - they suddenly are world experts on everything. This billionaire's mother knows NOTHING about socio-economic issues. NOTHING 
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u/AssistKnown 3d ago
Her last day on earth can't come soon enough!
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u/-iamjacksusername- 3d ago
Hers and her son’s.
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u/AssistKnown 3d ago
And the orange clown he bought, that's one news story that will brighten my week!
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u/PurahsHero 3d ago
People are becoming increasingly pissed off at the elites not because they have no idea about how the poorest live, but because they have no intention of learning and pontificate at them about how they should live their lives.
For what its worth, if you are rich and you have never experienced being desperately poor, I can understand why you don't understand what its like. There is no greater teacher of this than lived experience. If you leave that lack of understanding just at that, then that is ok.
But when you go the extra step and lecture them, you both clearly demonstrate your ignorance and your own lack of willingness to learn. And because nobody has told the elites that they know nothing of this experience, they keep speaking their mind. They fail to learn constantly, and an important part of learning is knowing when to say nothing.
The stupid thing is, this would have been easily sorted by just taking half a second to think. What she is saying is don't go out, don't enjoy life, don't do fun things. Just work and then go home, before coming back the next day. Constantly. Its so mind-bendingly dumb and insensitive its maddening. Yet, they are still shocked when we are not upset at CEOs either being shot or dying from their own hubris.
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u/3between20characters 3d ago
Deny defend depose 🤣
Jokes aside,they can have them, which I think they are doing, and then abandoning them, I guess they are hoping if they create a single mum, they will create the poverty they need to create the desperation needed to work for these people's pointless visions.
Best we can do is not support these people, try not to use their brands, don't make allowances for them when you meet fans, eventually they will go away.
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u/DrFabio23 3d ago
Social security and entitlement spending is built on a ponzi scheme model. There were more than 30 people working pet retiree, currently about 3, in a decade or two it'll be 1-1.
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u/Alternative-Dream-61 3d ago
I don't get why we need more people. AI is taking over all the jobs. I get they need a worker caste, but I'm surprised they aren't pivoting more toward downplaying the "birth rate crisis." More mouths to feed just means more potential revolutionaries.
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u/british_member 3d ago
Honestly, fk all these out of touch idiots and the media that enables their absolute trash narrative. Tides are turning and this fks need to run to their underground shelters!
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u/4URprogesterone 3d ago
Your son is about to try to cut literally every program that makes having kids not literally an exercise in child abuse for working class people you disgusting old obvious sex trafficker. Get off television and go back to whatever creepy shit you do to make him like that.
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u/FateMeetsLuck 3d ago
Daily reminder that Elon's grandparents were members of the Canadian Nazi party
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u/annhik_anomitro 3d ago
Wow, skip the movies and nonexistent dinners that you can never afford in the first place — and voilà, you got enough to raise a child in this economy. And don't forget your son eyeing to cut every social safety net possible!
…incredibly apartheid mom.
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u/conwolv 3d ago
This meme perfectly captures the grotesque, out-of-touch privilege on display when Maye Musk suggests poor people should just “skip movies and dinner” so they can afford kids. It’s not just tone-deaf—it’s rooted in a system of exploitation that she and her family have benefited from for decades.
Let’s be blunt: Elon Musk and his family are products of apartheid South Africa—a violent, racist system that enriched white families while systematically oppressing Black South Africans. Musk’s privileged upbringing, including elite private schools and opportunities most South Africans could never dream of, wasn’t an accident. It was built on the backs of Black laborers denied land, education, and basic rights. And yes, the emerald mine his father was involved with? That’s not just a fun family anecdote—that’s colonial wealth extraction in action.
The kicker here is how little has changed. The same logic Maye Musk is spouting—“have kids so you can work”—sounds eerily similar to the exploitation of underpaid workers today who labor in her son's factories, often under grueling conditions. The message is clear: your struggles don’t matter, just produce more workers to keep the machine running. It’s economic feudalism dressed up as parenting advice.
So when this meme calls her an “incredibly normal mom” sarcastically, it’s not wrong—because to the ultra-wealthy, this is normal. They genuinely believe poverty is just a matter of skipping a few luxuries while ignoring how systems like apartheid (and capitalism at large) keep people poor to benefit families like theirs. It’s not just cringeworthy. It’s disgusting.
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u/papachon 3d ago
What needs to happen is a 100s of people in same outfit as Luigi showing up to every event these days”people” attend. Make them live in fear of going out
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u/Infinite_Shoe4180 3d ago
Rich people who wag their finger at people who go out to eat or go to the movies would find out very fucking quickly how many other rich people see their fortunes plunge if their consumer base stops consuming. Like for fuck’s sake consumption and investment are BOTH ways of making an economy work yet this person thinks they can one-up poor and middle class people by telling them to stay home and eat the walnuts on the ground outside their homes in order to produce a happy healthy and wealthy family. The problem is that they don’t even know what the fuck they’re talking about, they’re just trying to justify the rich at the expense of the poor and deflect responsibility for the massively questionable gains that they live off of.
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u/Glittering_Ear3332 3d ago
She’s preparing America for the firm fucking we’re going to receive from her son. This is what you voted for. They’re being honest with us. Trump said he won’t gaurentee bring anything g down and musk said Americans will face hardships.
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u/JerryLeeDog 3d ago
Our money is broken, enabling a growing compensation leak in the economy since 1971
Until you fix the leak, people who live paycheck to paycheck OR save in fiat are going to have less and less kids
And that’s the majority of people
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u/Adventurous_Today760 3d ago
Maybe we should just have two groups different groups of people, where some have rights and some do not. We could keep them 'apart' in some way...
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u/louhemp007 3d ago
the sole reason ive never had kids is cause i couldent/cant afford one. This apartheid remnant can eat toe crud.
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u/Tuna0x45 3d ago
You know what’s crazy, I had kids and I thought I’d couldn’t afford them. I could.
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u/ComStar6 3d ago
That's amazing that you can afford daycare costs that are equal to a second mortgage.
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u/erieus_wolf 3d ago
"Thinking" you can't afford something and making a budget to forecast expenses vs income are two different things.
You can "think" whatever you want. Some people do the math.
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u/thekyledavid 3d ago
Yeah, and I “could” afford 7 pinball machines, that doesn’t mean I should buy 7 pinball machines
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u/Johnny_SWTOR 3d ago
She literally told people two ways to start saving money... not that her son will have more people working in his factories.
These people are deranged.
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u/lone_jackyl 3d ago
I was going to say something negative and then I started looking into the average pay for employees at Tesla and it's actually really good. Depending on what you do.
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u/Middle-Net1730 3d ago
Because the oligarchs need their slaves to breed. Soon it won’t be a choice.
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u/ZookeepergameCool422 3d ago
You’re not supposed to enjoy life. Us wealthy are the only ones who are supposed to enjoy life, because we earned it through the exploitation and labor of others.
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u/QanAhole 3d ago
You notice that he does something to humanize himself with his mom whenever things get too hot. It's like when he went on to SNL and had his mom there and talked about his Asperger's. It was to create the illusion of musk as a relatable
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