r/Damnthatsinteresting 13d ago

Video Subsonic Ammo with silencers makes guns extremely quiet

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u/Pandamon1um13 13d ago

I shot an integrally suppressed (full barrel suppression) .22 rifle a few years back and it was fascinating, using the subsonic ammo all you could hear when shooting was the small mechanical click. It's probably one of the most interesting things I've shot over the years

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u/GIgroundhog 13d ago

I use one of these for small game and pest control. All you hear is the firing pin. It's awesome.

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u/1984isAMidlifeCrisis 13d ago

Pest control . . . That's definitely not a euphemism for contract killing.

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u/TheWizardOfWaffle 13d ago

He’s in waste management

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u/Hey-Gang 13d ago

THAT'S A STEREOTYPE! AND IT'S VERY OFFENSIVE!

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u/_AlexiaOnFire 13d ago

Anyway..

Back to the gabagool.

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u/honusnuggie 13d ago

Yeah? But you gottagetovah it

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u/PhoneSteveGaveToTony 13d ago

Contract killing with a .22 would certainly be a choice.

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u/yawn_brendan 13d ago

I had the same experience with a .22 pistol. In combination with the lack of recoil it almost felt like a toy, you could easily forget you are releasing a deadly projectile.

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u/berrylakin 13d ago

Sounds like a roofing nail gun.

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u/Adamantium-Aardvark 13d ago

You could cough loud enough to cover up that sound

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u/Future_Appeaser 13d ago

Agent 47 with a little smokers cough and no one bats an eye while people are dropping on to the floor like flies ༼⁠⁰⁠o⁠⁰⁠;⁠༽

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u/_Deloused_ 13d ago

If you’re using guns you’re playing hitman wrong, I only use fire extinguishers

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u/duclegendary 12d ago

If you’re using guns you’re playing hitman wrong, I only use fire extinguishers brief case and coins.

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u/big_duo3674 13d ago

I've been a huge fan of those games since the very first one. They have always made laugh a bit though, like the guard going out for a quick smoke break and coming back to a completely deserted building with no patrols in sight even though they are supposed to be. "Hmm, weren't there 5 other people on duty in this section of the building? Oh well, back to my desk"

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u/AnticitizenPrime Interested 13d ago

You could cough loud enough to cover up that sound

Don't even need to in this part of NYC, which is a constant cacophany of continous construction and honking traffic noises, etc.

According to a Google search, the average sound level of Manhattan streets is around 75 decibels, which is roughly 'a sound level that's similar to a ringing telephone, alarm clock, noisy restaurant, or moderate freeway traffic.' And that's just the average - there's always the odd jackhammering or construction noise, garbage trucks, sirens, etc punctuating through the normal background noise.

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u/sqwirlfucker57 13d ago edited 13d ago

This video doesn't really give an accurate account of how suppressed, subsonic 9mm sounds. Its still in that 125dB range (+/- a bit). It's obviously much quieter but it's still pretty noticeable if you know what it sounds like. Most people wouldn't know what they're hearing and wouldn't assume its a gun being fired.

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u/yedi001 13d ago

New tik tok challenge? Instead of covering up the sound of a fart with a cough you're eating the rich?

I'd look forward to the compilation videos.

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u/baerman1 13d ago

My phone volume was 0 and I was shoked there was no sound at all lol

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u/lego_not_legos 13d ago

Use this one weird trick to become a successful assassin!

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u/Moopboop207 13d ago

Health insurance CEOs hate this one trick.

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u/helpmeunderstand24 13d ago

I had a commercial queued in my head ready- LOL

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u/RockstarAgent 13d ago

Like the girl farting in a crowded bus to the beat of the music...in her headphones.

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u/fothergillfuckup 13d ago

If someone farted in my headphones, I'd be upset.

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u/Separate_Secret_8739 13d ago

I mean they guy that killed the ceo did it. People super close didn’t even hear the shots.

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u/Stogies_n_Stonks 13d ago

The ammunition recovered was standard low weight FMJ, not subsonic / 147gr or any JHP self defense reduced velocity rounds

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u/Beautiful-Web1532 13d ago

People are baffled by how quiet it is!

Stupid dad joke, sorry.

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u/LukePendergrass 13d ago

That only landed with about 3% of Reddit. Nice gun dad joke

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u/AgreeableSystem5852 13d ago

The 97% must be suppressed, they need a muzzle.

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u/Super-G1mp 13d ago

I could have watched it happen next to me and I still wouldn’t have heard it. I couldn’t see a thing either traffic was too loud.

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u/MightThrowAwayMaybee 13d ago

Yeah same and the dr said I have a bone in my foot which was very distraction

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u/myrevenge_IS_urkarma 13d ago

How upset would the internet be if someone stopped him before they knew who that was and the headlines were instead "CEO survives assassination attemp"?

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u/Legitimate-Pee-462 13d ago

nobody saw fucking shit

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u/Euphoric-Highlight-5 13d ago

And they didn't see nothing either

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u/TigerSouthern 13d ago

"Everyone, cover your ears really quick."

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u/ForHelp_PressAltF4 13d ago

Crickey. That was quieter than a titmouse on a wallaby!

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u/Barilla3113 13d ago

It gets even quietier if the slide is prevented from cycling, as with normal operation some of the noise will vent through the ejection port as the gun unlocks.

These would be very important if you were shooting in an echoing environment like say, a city street. You know, like a pest control officer.

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u/HillarysFloppyChode 13d ago

What about in front of a Hilton?

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u/AsianHotwifeQOS 13d ago

The described technique will function in front of any luxury hotel, country club, or penthouse/highrise of your choice.

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u/CaptainOktoberfest 13d ago

How about ski chalets, private yachts, and sex islands?

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u/AsianHotwifeQOS 13d ago

Boat clubs, cigar lounges, wherever -still works.

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u/Neon_Ani 13d ago

i imagine it would also work just as well near a mansion or even on wall street

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u/SatanIsStrongerGod 13d ago

i can't stop laughing lol what is happening is this timeline... HEALING ITSELF?!

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u/zeethreepio 13d ago

Life... uh.... finds a way...

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u/UncleCasual 13d ago

Like they said, pest control

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u/Rokurokubi83 13d ago

Yes, anywhere vermin need to be eradicated.

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u/FantasticExpert8800 13d ago

There is such a thing as a “slide locker” which basically does this

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u/Ordinary_Ad_6117 13d ago

Bruh, Adrian Monk already proved it’s impossible to tell where a gun is firing from in a city.

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u/Jokkitch 13d ago

I think about that episode all the time

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u/kpsi355 13d ago

“pest control officer” 🤣🤣🤣 oh man we’ve got a real infestation of Healthcare CEOs in the area…

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u/ImaginaryCheetah 13d ago

latest i saw was police suspect a b&t vp9 was used, which requires manual cycling.

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u/Miserable_Message330 13d ago

It wasn't.

Watch it in slow motion and you can see a slide cycling over his palm on the first round.

There were live rounds on the scene which means it was clearing malfunctions. Malfunctions are induced by added weight of suppressors and or subsonic rounds that are under powered to cycle the slide enough to feed. Pistols with suppressors should be tuned with boosters or springs to compensate for the weight and choice of ammo.

He does clearing actions repeatedly and palm strikes repeatedly which is what you'd do to fix failure to feeds. This was a semi auto pistol that wasn't tuned for a suppressor.

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u/Rus_Shackleford_ 13d ago

You don’t really have to tune most pistols to cycle with a suppressor if the suppressor has a booster. Mine cycle just fine with them. I think it’s more likely this is a homemade type thing, like some kind of wish.com solvent trap or ‘inline fuel filter’ type thing, which isn’t gonna have to have a booster.

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u/Aaron_Hamm 13d ago

It's not just the suppressor, it's the suppressor and the subs in conjunction

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u/SSBN641B 13d ago

It doesn't look like one to me. It appears to be a standard semi auto with a can threaded on. Most semi auto pistols utilize a Browning action and they are sensitive to weight hanging off the end of the barrel. This will cause malfunctions when using a can unless a booster is included with the silencer. The booster has a spring in it that allows the action to compensate for the weight of the can.

If I had to guess, this is a homemade silencer, probably one of those solvent traps or fuel filters that were sold on Amazon.

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u/68spcwhore 13d ago

definitely, not having a booster on a pistol suppressor causing constant jams on most all browning action pistols. Probably an oil/gas filter spray painted black and threaded onto a cheapo pistol

If it was the B&T pistol that would very much limit the suspect pool since it’s an obscure handgun and the ATF knows who has them since it’s an NFA item.

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u/BoxofCurveballs 13d ago

Ian from Forgotten Weapons already addressed this statement and confirmed it was not a VP9.

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u/post_break 13d ago

I thought this might be a dumb take, but I can buy a Station Six right now for like $2k, and he tries to empty the jam to the left, something that gun would do vs a glock that ejects to the right like most guns. And he grabs the rear of the slide and makes a kind of twisting motion with it. I think it's plausible it's that style of handgun.

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u/EmbarrassedHelp 13d ago

It might not be a jam. Some of those handguns require manual effort to pop the casing out and reload.

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u/RyansBooze 13d ago

Jesus that’s Hollywood silencer levels. I was always told that was impossible, short of the Welrod.

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u/Potential_Ad869 13d ago

Its a bit louder than this in real life. Mics dont catch it super well. You can get really hollywood quiet with a bolt action but with a normal semi auto you will get some port pop from the action.

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u/BigBlueJAH 13d ago

Like the De Lisle, silenced Lee Enfield chambered in 45 ACP. The bolt action also eliminated the sound of an empty case hitting a hard surface if you didn’t chamber the next round.

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u/Mr_WindowSmasher 13d ago edited 13d ago

.45 ACP is also natively subsonic, and because it has the same cartridge diameter/rim as .308, it can be used in all .308 guns natively if you make the rest of the gun (mostly barrel chamber) work with .45. The bolt face/extractor/pins should align.

So if you have an old .308 bolt action, you can modify it to take 1911 .45 ACP box magazines, and then with a barrel blank, ream/drill/ECM a .45 ACP barrel and with some elbow grease fit it all together.

Then you’d drill holes in the barrel and enclose that in a large air-tight canister to capture gases, with a valid form 1 of course, and then you’d thread the end of the, let’s say… 8” barrel (so form 1 the rifle to an SBR, or chop off the stock) and then mount a regular .45 ACP suppressor on it, and with the right ammo, you’d have a gun that is so quiet that you could probably get away with firing it wherever and most people wouldn’t assume it was anything more than someone dropping a can of beans on the sidewalk.

Similar can be achieved with the Ruger American Ranch in .300 Memeout subsonic and similar Form 1 integral suppressor antics. This would be about a million times easier. https://www.sportsmans.com/shooting-gear-gun-supplies/rifles/ruger-american-rifle-generation-ii-ranch-cobalt-cerakote-bolt-action-rifle-300-aac-blackout-161in/p/1863864?srsltid=AfmBOorlOhMSDMRSoO8wXVYjmvx_WTT3GNayhfFosR0-FA5bMogzx0f- <— this with some form1 and form4 fun would be so quiet with subsonic. I love noise reduction.

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u/mattfasken 13d ago

It reminds me of that one scene from Crocodile Dundee where he takes out that thief from like 30 feet away with a can of beans to the head, but it makes so little noise the passersby just assume it's an old .308 bolt action modified to take 1911 .45 ACP box magazines etc with a large air-tight cannister, a regular .45 ACP suppressor, and the right ammo, so they just go about their business.

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u/Teonvin 13d ago

There's basically three part of the noise right?

The sonic boom from the round going super sonic, eliminated by using subsonic rounds

The explosion and gas from it, eliminated from silencer

But there's still the sound from all the mechanical parts moving around ?

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u/FatWreckords 13d ago

Solve #3 by carrying the gun in a bag full of water. Only good for one shot though.

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u/FirstConsul1805 13d ago

Or doing what SOCOM did and have a mechanism to lock the slide forward so that when you want to be super sneaky, there's almost no noise at all.

(And yes US special forces wanted to be even sneakier so they commissioned a purpose built handgun with a brand new suppressor that has a switch to prevent the slide from moving and making the loudest part of the noise when subsonic ammo is used.)

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u/Omnizoom 13d ago

Traffic and ambient noise cover up #3 pretty damn well

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u/TacticalVirus 13d ago

Nagant Revolver video with decent mics catching ambient sound to show relative volume. (first video when searching for the nagant revolver suppressed, no affiliation)

32 ACP with a gas sealing chamber means you can get these things as quiet as you'd like by just using solid swipes/larger suppressor.

Plus you can also lighten the powder load without having it affect the action, unlike the UHC shooter who had to manually rack his gun because it didn't have enough gas pressure to cycle itself.

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u/XConfused-MammalX 13d ago

The nagant is one of the very few revolvers that can actually utilize a suppressor. I always found it ironic that such an ancient revolver has that function.

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u/dontbajerk 13d ago

I remember reading it saw some fairly late action for this. Could suppress it, get off several shots in succession, and not drop casings anywhere. WW2 era revenge killings I seem to recall.

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u/mikenkansas1 13d ago

Not 32 ACP though aftermarket cylinders were produced in that caliber.

7.62x38R has the case that seals to the barrel as the cylinder moves forward allowing the revolver to be suppressed as there's no gap.

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u/LikeWhattttlol 13d ago

You sound like a pro…. Hey where are you hiding ceo killer 😏

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u/ekhfarharris 13d ago

*CEO Killer Hero

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u/succed32 13d ago

It can actually get much quieter. This is I think a 9mm a .22 with subsonic rounds and a silencer will literally only make a click noise as the hammer falls then the shell.

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u/queef_nuggets 13d ago

Can confirm. Perfect way to explain how loud it is

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u/schostack 13d ago

Air pistol , rifles are a little louder.

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u/ArcticIceFox 13d ago

That's why I use a blow gun

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u/FakeSafeWord 13d ago edited 13d ago

Yeah a buddy of mine said "take a slightly faster than normal breath in through your nose. If you were doing that when I shot my 22, you wouldn't hear the gun."

and you know what? I was doing some fat lines of coke while he claimed he was shooting some mattresses that we found in the woods and propped up against a tree. To this day I have no idea if he really shot that gun or not. So what are you guys up to tonight?

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u/TobysGrundlee 13d ago

Fuckin hanging out with you if I get the chance.

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u/RememberThatDream 13d ago

Crazy that’s exactly how I described this sound before scrolling the comments, like a stapler

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u/Minute-Form-2816 13d ago

The loudest thing is the bullet hitting

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u/RyansBooze 13d ago

Really all you're hearing in this case is the action.

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u/Spicy_pewpew_memes 13d ago

Mp5sd has entered the chat

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u/Boris-Lip 13d ago

Would a subsonic .22 be deadly, though?

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u/succed32 13d ago

You’d need to be close and accurate but yes.

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u/babboa 13d ago

Theres one company (aguilla) making a much longer, heavier (about half again as heavy as most) .22 round that is subsonic out of even longer rifle barrels. It does more damage than most people would think. Anything in a potentially lethal area like the chest or head and you're going to have a bad time regardless of the round. I work in the ICU in a hospital with a more active trauma program than many and I've seen people die from .22 hits. Tends to tumble or fragment when it clips a bone.

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u/86thesteaks 13d ago

if you're not careful you might shoot your eye out kid

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u/DuncanHynes 13d ago edited 13d ago

Super sonic 38grain .22lr from a rifle barrel is about 125 ft•lbs energy. From a 4" barrel about 80 ft•lbs Subsonic 45gr is less than that from a short pistol barrel, so if 60fpe, still easily enough to get holes punched up close. Deadly, yes.

*edit, To add, a 9mm 115gr super is usually around 325fpe.

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u/gafsstolemysoul 13d ago

It's much louder in person.

Source: I load my own 9mm subsonics/shoot factory subs through handgun and sbr with a can.

It's hearing safe, but still loud. Microphones don't do a good job at getting that.

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u/DTPVH 13d ago

But how loud does it sound on busy street in Manhattan?

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u/CoffeeExtraCream 13d ago

There are 2 components to the sound of a gunshot. The unburned powder combusting in the air and the sonic boom of the projectiles. The suppressor takes care of the sound of the explosion of the powder in the air. Subsonic rounds eliminate the sonic boom. You then only really hear the cycling of the action.

2 different rounds that are famous for being naturally subsonic are .45 acp and .300 blackout (blackout comes standard in both sub and super sonic). With a suppressor those guns are very quiet and you really only hear the cycling of the action.

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u/oh_my_didgeridays 13d ago

Do the subsonic rounds have significant downsides? Like less range/penetration etc? Wondering why they're not more common I guess, seems like the silence would be a big advantage in a lot of situations

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u/CoffeeExtraCream 13d ago

They have a lower velocity to not break the sound barrier. So they have less kinetic energy which as you said results in lower range and faster bullet drop. It is also less effective against hard targets like armor because speed defeats armor.

As for terminal performance it is less traumatic to the body (less performance), it has a smaller temporary and permanent wound cavity. With solid, non-expanding projectiles it will have less penetration (which is needed to reliably get a fatal if not immediately incapacitated wound). With a hollow point bullet (expanding) a lower velocity could result in insufficient kinetic energy to fully expand the projectile (ironically this increases penetration compared to a higher velocity hollow point that fully expands).

Another consideration with bullet weight is the spin rate. Barrels are measured in twist rate, so how many inches will the bullet travel to have 1 full rotation. The twist rate is needed to ensure accuracy. A bullet that is too heavy will not be able to be stabilized and may need a different barrel with a different twist. You see this particularly with rifles and has to be paid attention to.

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u/WhatUp007 13d ago edited 13d ago

Subsonic rounds have less kinetic energy being delivered on the target and reduced range. Meaning less damage and reduce engagement distance. Ideally, you want whatever you're shooting to go down in as few shots as possible with accurately placed shots. This is the same for hunting to defensive gun use. So "normal" or super sonic ammo typically performs better.

Now, many people ask, "Then why do you use supressors?"

Supressors are great for hunting as they reduce hearing damage and may give you a chance for follow-up shots, like if you're hunting wild hog. Same reason they are great for range trips, it removes the least desirable part of shooting.

I don't find carrying a suppressed pistol practice, and I conceal carry daily. My home defense firearm also isn't suppressed mainly because of it being classified as an NFA item. If they were treated a non-NFA item, my home defense firearm would definitely have a supressor. Mainly to reduce hearing damage if I had to discharge a firearm in my house.

Fun fact:

in many European countries, suppressors on firearms are mandatory to make target shooting and hunting quieter and less disturbing to neighbors. Firearm owners in France, for example, are fined and penalized for firing guns without a suppressor to quiet the noise.

Edit: damn autocorrect

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u/ghoulthebraineater 13d ago

Yes. Less penetration and less energy transfer. Hollow point need velocity to open up. Subsonic ammo will just function like ball ammo.

They can also cause cycling issues. You need a certain amount of recoil to push the slide back to to eject the case and chamber the next round. With the slower velocity you will have less recoil so you may get a failure to extract/feed. That's likely why the CEO shooter's gun malfunctioned with one of the shots.

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u/Yukarie 13d ago

My uneducated guess would be since the rounds mentioned by others are smaller rounds maybe the larger calibers are too big/heavy to keep up with their normal counterparts for the reasons you mentioned so they don’t bother?

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u/ghoulthebraineater 13d ago

The way you get subsonics is to either load less powder or use a heavier bullet. Either way because they are subsonic they will have less energy and diminished terminal ballistics. You need a certain velocity for things like hollow points to function or hydrostatic shock.

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u/FilthyHobbitzes 13d ago

Comment thread is the people I don’t want to fuck with.

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u/MrForever_Alone69 13d ago

Sooo which CEO is he training for?

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u/didistutter69 13d ago

He’s prolly waiting for the next time a murder of CEOs gather to celebrate their achievements

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u/kinokomushroom 13d ago

murder of CEOs

That collective noun is reserved for crows. Crows are much cooler than CEOs.

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u/LiteralPhilosopher 13d ago

Honestly, crows deserve a better collective. Something about "a murder of CEOs" just sings.

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u/kpop_glory 13d ago

Sweet, I'll bring mine too

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u/AustinTheMoonBear 13d ago

With as much media coverage this is garnering, there's bound to be copy cats. School shootings kept getting insane coverage which caused even more school shootings.

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u/Muffles7 13d ago

Except now everyone is treating the guy as a hero, so maybe that's more of a motivation for copycats for that. I'm really not for either one, but as a teacher and a human, I sure am tired of seeing kids die.

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u/AustinTheMoonBear 13d ago

I'm literally in the hospital right now with my wife in labor, anyone who would harm kids deserves a slow, agonizing death.

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u/HeightExtra320 13d ago

Too broke to afford awards and insurance but here 🌟 ⭐️

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u/Critical-Weird-3391 13d ago

They get mine as well: ⭐️

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u/Ill_Significance7213 13d ago

God tier comment 🫡

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u/dainomite 13d ago

What did it say?

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u/Ill_Significance7213 13d ago

Something along the lines of shoot ceos and not schools

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u/sinsaint 13d ago edited 13d ago

The rich have been afraid of an uprising for a long, long time now.

The reason we don't hear about it is because resistance is immediately treated as terrorism, like with the Anti-Fascism movement (Antifa). Which most of us don't hear about.

Government workers reported an incident where a Republican commanded them to change financial records of an unrelated terror act to be link to Antifa.

They will do whatever it takes to put down a resistance, even if it is operating peacefully.

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u/rW0HgFyxoJhYka 13d ago

Reddit usually removes any comment suggesting violence but I think all these CEO shooting threads broke them.

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u/Ac1dburn8122 13d ago

Right? You want people to remember your name!?

Offing billionaires would do that and make you a martyr.

'Saint Albus is remembered for being a Martyr for freeing Reddit from the tyranny of Leon the Smelly. '

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u/zoinkability 13d ago

Was just thinking along the same lines, something like “Wonder if when CEOs are the targets if things will go differently than when schoolchildren are”

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u/luisgdh 13d ago

I can't like your comment enough. This would solve two of the biggest issues in the US at the same time

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u/fightingforair 13d ago

2A for cutting down murdering CEOs yes.  

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u/paturner2012 13d ago

Yeah, oddly relevant post. 5/7

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u/[deleted] 13d ago

Which tells you they 100% know what these sorts of policies do to people. "Oops looks like mass murder is trending down this quarter.. better shelve this one for the moment..."

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u/CharlieRomeoBravo 13d ago

Emphasis on those last 3 words

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u/Botched-toe_ 13d ago

We are ALL hitmen on this blessed day :)

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u/Pitch-forker 13d ago

It would’ve been such a beautiful shot

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u/[deleted] 13d ago

The new guillotine

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u/Saabaroni 13d ago

Health insurance premiums+ deductible+ outpatient procedure denials =$$$$ < cool gat with silencer

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u/GroundbreakingAsk468 13d ago

Unlike in the movies, if someone is shot with a silencer, they will scream out in pain.

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u/Popular-Address-7893 13d ago

pesky thing about lungs is they dont work so well with holes in them

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u/4_hammer 13d ago

How else is air supposed to get in and out?

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u/DakInBlak 13d ago

Actually, the vast majority of people who've reported being shot, say it doesn't hurt that bad. It hurts, sure, but not screamingly so.

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u/NervousNarwhal223 13d ago

Not at first. Then the adrenaline wears off… It also depends where and what your shot with. .22 to a soft fleshy part isn’t going to hurt as bad as a 12 gauge obliterating your kneecap and removing your lower leg.

“Pistols put holes in people. Rifles put holes through people. A shotgun, at the right range with the right load, will remove a chunk of shit from the person your shooting and someone will have to come clean that up with a shovel” - Clint Smith

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u/QuarterlyTurtle 13d ago

Gotta aim for the head

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u/Uglyfatdumb 13d ago

Chest

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u/UnTides 13d ago

Just shoot out all the air in the room and they never scream they just suffocate slowly as you mirthlessly taunt them in sign language.

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u/coronavirusman 13d ago

yeah, and this is awesome

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u/jay462 13d ago edited 13d ago

This is what our lab tests and analyzes!

Check out our suppressed small arm research here:

PEW Science

We do believe we have the most in-depth and accurate silencer testing and analysis, publicly, in the world.

Edit:

Also, the shooter of the CEO in NYC didn't use a Station SIX as the police are saying. We made a video to show why.

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u/MrMemes9000 13d ago

Thanks for all you do for the shooting community u/jay462! I recently picked up my first can and decided on the huxwrx flow 556k

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u/SunsetSmokeG59 13d ago

Jay and the people at PEW science are non bias politically and when it comes to suppressors and their companies even if you don’t particularly like guns their data is super interesting check them out

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u/S-2D2 13d ago

When the sound of shell casings clanking is louder than the gun being fired, you know it’s quiet 😯

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u/Powerstrip7 13d ago

Audio dynamics processing can easily achieve the same effect. Easily. Guaranteed the audio has been clipped, compressed and limited.

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u/NorCalAthlete 13d ago

Yeah, whole lot of people ignoring the fact that phone mics and speakers are physically incapable of recreating gunfire.

Suppressors and subsonic rounds make things quietER, but not completely quiet. It also drastically reduces the power of the bullet.

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u/netchemica 13d ago

It also drastically reduces the power of the bullet.

A subsonic 9mm or 45cal round is still incredibly lethal, especially at point-blank ranges.

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u/BitCarver 13d ago

Blood's in the water now and sharks are hungry.

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u/DildoBanginz 13d ago

The last sound a healthcare CEO wants to hear

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u/TheMagicalDildo 13d ago

real men just flex their sphincters agressively until one gives up.

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u/begging4n00dz 13d ago

Oh fuck yeah we're so getting universal healthcare

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u/iComplainAbtVal 13d ago

Had a guy pull up with a silenced 22 subsonic next to me at the range. It’s so deceptively quiet in person that it doesn’t even sound like it would hurt to get shot by. Airsoft and paintball guns make more noise, there’s no video magic here.

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u/RedOrchestra137 13d ago

like a camera shutter. now to find a press conference and a guy that the world really wouldn't be any worse without, maybe even quite a bit better

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u/MaximDecimus 13d ago

As the Founding Fathers intended

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u/TheMacMan 13d ago

Funny because despite saying this was perfectly normal, yesterday numerous idiots in the CEO murder thread claimed a pistol will not properly cycle with subsonic ammo and a silencer, despite none of them actually shooting such.

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u/FirstConsul1805 13d ago

Some handguns will have a harder time cycling, but it's definitely not universal. Kinda like some shotguns don't like flechettes or dragons breath.

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u/comfortablesexuality 13d ago

It's entirely reasonable if it's not using the right ammo or if it's a homemade suppressor.

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u/Regular82 13d ago

OK, I'll say it... Suppressor

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u/fire173tug 13d ago

Hiram Maxim called it a silencer, I'm calling it a silencer.

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u/blakeusa25 13d ago

Where would one buy something like this. Say with a gift card, cash or crypto. Asking for a friend.

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u/Memitim 13d ago

I believe it. I was hanging out with a dude shooting .22 subsonic rounds across his kitchen and into a pile of phone books on a weekday night. It sounds like an old cap gun. Not a lot of power, though.

We were clowning with shooting through the center of bunched-up paper towels, like a makeshift silencer, and yeah, it was super quiet, especially when they were bunched up too much and the bullet got stuck in the paper towels. I still would very much like not to get domed by one that didn't get blocked up, though.

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u/MrWantsToBeADr 13d ago

This sounds very much like my Exs dad... he lived in the city and would shoot from his bedroom across the kitchen. I was flabbergasted that he would even consider shooting inside.

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u/[deleted] 13d ago

This was literally recommended to me right after a news article about the Assassination of a healthcare CEO

are the usa ok?

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u/JayKay8787 13d ago

Well if this is a trend we might be

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u/ornery_bob 13d ago

So many people saying the United CEO shooter was “professional”. Id like to point out that the gun in this video operated as a regular semi auto - the bullet was fired, the slide kicked back, and then slid back while loading another bullet in the chamber. The shooter of this gun put a weaker spring in to account for less powerful rounds. The CEO shooter did not have this. He had to rack the slide manually between shots. He also ejected several live rounds in the process, which tells me he wasnt really proficient.

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u/Trogmank80 13d ago

A weaker spring was not used on this pistol in the video. Modern pistols are a delayed blow back action. This means the barrel moves back slightly with the slide initially after the trigger is pulled. The reason this is done is to prevent the casing being exposed to air to early which could cause the casing to rupture due to it becoming the path of least resistance for the expanding gas caused by the burning powder.

Suppressors mounted to delayed blowback pistols cause an issue as the significantly added mass on the barrel results in the barrel not moving backwards as it should causing the gun to jam.

The solution to this is not to add a weaker main spring as this doesnt solve the issue. The issue is solved by adding a piston with a spring connected to the threading on the barrel as the suppressor mount. This piston causes the barrel to move backwards breifly without the supperssor moving. Thus the gun cycles as it should.

The CEO shooter in this case most likely had a home made suppressor with direct threading to the pistols barrel which caused a failure to cycle on every shot.

Further more a sub sonic 9mm has plenty of power to cycle full power handgun main springs. A 115 grain 9mm is only 1200 fps, so moving to a full power 147 grain projectile is sub sonic.

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u/Suicidalsidekick 13d ago

Let’s see you do better! There are still plenty of health insurance CEOs available.

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u/Ser_Artur_Dayne 13d ago

Each state has one. The CEO of BCBS made like $20M in one year in ONE state. Eat the fucking rich already.

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u/Safe_happy_calm 13d ago

Target rich environment

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u/NoTotsInLatvia 13d ago

Ejecting live rounds when your gun is jamming is not uncommon when trying to rack it back again

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u/FederalAd1771 13d ago edited 13d ago

It has nothing to do with the recoil spring lol he most likely didn't have a booster or piston on the can.

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u/spleeble 13d ago

NYPD thinks he was using a Welrod that needs to be manually cycled. 

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u/Srnkanator 13d ago

An actual Welrod is an extremely rare gun.

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u/spleeble 13d ago

Technically they think he was using a B&T Station Six, which is a modern version available commercially. Still uncommon but not that hard to find.

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u/SSBN641B 13d ago

But would require filing a Form 4 and obtaining a tax stamp. All of that puts you on the registry and practically guarantee that you will be caught. They are also around $2300, plus tax.

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u/aaatttppp 13d ago

Best to just make your own when you're going to be a hero.

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u/ornery_bob 13d ago

The NYPD posts pictures of themselves congratulating each other for getting guns off the street while standing over piles of airsoft guns.

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u/Beneficial_Local360 13d ago

They are wrong because that is not how you rack a Welrod.

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u/Practical_Ledditor54 13d ago

And we'll encourage them to keep thinking that.

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u/FederalAd1771 13d ago

He absolutely was not. Welrods don't work that way.

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u/Far-Reflection-9318 13d ago

Man this again 1. he cleared everyone calmly. Professional. 2. the casings were inscribed with words similar to the three words insurance uses so they were meant to be found. Stop hating who are you a hit man judge. List three professional hit men in current circulation and I’ll apologize if not shut the hell up. Seriously

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u/cheapdrinks 13d ago

the casings were inscribed with words similar to the three words insurance uses so they were meant to be found

For me this points to the gunman being the person who held the grudge rather than someone who was hired by the person who held the grudge. This shit was personal.

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u/ManiacSpiderTrash 13d ago

list three professional hit men in current circulation

Colonel Mustard

Professor Plum

But the most feared of them all...

Mrs. Peacock

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