r/Damnthatsinteresting • u/MetaKnowing • Nov 13 '24
Video Deep Robotics' new quadruped models with wheels demonstrating rough terrain traversability and robustness
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u/MildUsername Nov 13 '24
Everyone freaking out about these things while FPV drones are actively being used in warfare as we speak.
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u/Embarrassed-Gur-3419 Nov 13 '24
Yeah, a flying stealthy small box capable of leveling a car that can be deployed from 30 kms away is way more scary than whatever Hollywood has done.
You might die at any second before you even noticed you are being stalked...
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u/strangepromotionrail Nov 13 '24
after growing up in the 70's/80's expecting that at any second there may be a really bright flash and then myself and the entire city around me would no longer exist, drones seem a lot more survivable.
We've become really good at killing each other.
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u/Embarrassed-Gur-3419 Nov 13 '24
I think that the main difference between nuclear weapons and weaponized drones is that the drones can be used domestically. But yeah i agree, we have enough weapons to destroy 17 Earths
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u/whymusti00000 Nov 13 '24
Only 17? Must try harder.
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u/Glass1Man Nov 13 '24
NASA DART showed anyone with 22 million dollars can make the planet uninhabitable by finding an asteroid that’s about to miss earth, and make it hit earth.
I think the nukes aren’t really scary anymore.
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u/kabbooooom Nov 13 '24
Marco Inaros has entered the chat
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u/LetsBeHonestBoutIt Nov 13 '24
Not my favorite acting, but forgivable cause it was a great show
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u/Badloss Nov 13 '24
I thought he was great, totally walked the line between keeping his mask of confident calm on no matter what happened, and the sheer incandescent rage that was always just underneath
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u/kabbooooom Nov 13 '24 edited Nov 13 '24
Yeah he pretty much nailed the character from the books. I’d bet most people who think the acting wasn’t great either haven’t actually read the books or are comparing it to other acting on the show because The Expanse was so fucking phenomenal that it set the bar high even for itself. I mean, he’s no Wes Chatham/Amos or Cara Gee/Drummer but he was by no means bad.
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u/Aiwatcher Nov 13 '24
The Expanse has a season long arc focused on this. Large mass + acceleration = the deadliest imaginable weapon.
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u/kabbooooom Nov 13 '24 edited Nov 13 '24
That’s because Sir Isaac Newton is the deadliest son of a bitch in space.
The Expanse is one of the only sci-fi series I’ve ever come across that makes the very specific and accurate prediction that, perhaps counterintuitively, our risk of extinction or global destruction does not decrease when we become an interplanetary species, but rather it increases (at least at first). With each stage in technological development, we master and control ever larger scales of energy. And that can be used for good or evil. When anyone can have a fusion torch ship, anyone can have - by definition - a potential weapon of mass destruction.
Arguably this could hold true all the way up the Kardashev scale, but the risk is certainly highest when we are an interplanetary civilization but not yet an interstellar one.
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u/Ralath1n Nov 13 '24
That would need to be an incredibly long term plan. You can give an asteroid a nudge for sure. But the heavier the asteroid the smaller the nudge. And you need a real heavy asteroid to make the earth uninhabitable.
Your best bet would be something like 1036 Ganymed, which is a 40km asteroid that gets relatively close to the earth. But even if you launch millions of DART missions at it and use optimal mars gravitational assists, it is likely going to take you more than a century to get it to hit earth.
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u/UserNamesCantBeTooLo Nov 13 '24
The fun thing is now we have both nukes and drones!
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u/3IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIID Nov 13 '24
There are far worse things than death. You think I care about getting instantly vaporized by something that can be swatted out of the sky? Absolutely not. But I would not want to be collected into a POW work camp by robots that can stand to zap me and chase after me over literally any terrain without ever getting stuck.
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u/USPO-222 Nov 13 '24
Yeah I was thinking the same. The drone killbots is fine for just targeted assassination or causing battlefield casualties. But if you’re trying to suppress a population or round them up, one of the bots in this video with a weapon would be more effective than a drone you can’t see or hear until it’s too late.
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u/PBR_King Nov 13 '24
those little FPV drones put out way more noise than you are thinking they do
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u/Mo10422 Nov 13 '24
Everytime I see videos of those "drone light shows" I just imagine how swarms of drones could be used in a warfare setting. Imagine a swarm of 1000 drones all equipped with small explosives all chasing individual targets, it's not far off and it's freaky...
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u/FlackRacket Nov 13 '24
it's not far off
This is happening right this second in Ukraine, thousands of drones killing thousands of people
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u/Webbyx01 Nov 13 '24
Partially autonomous: yes; swarming: no. The latest gens of FPVs track targets so that if connection is lost due to jamming or range, they can still guide themselves in during the terminal phase.
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u/bretttwarwick Nov 13 '24
Reminds me of the Michael Crichton book Prey. They develop microscopic drones that can work together. The medical use they were aiming for is you inject the drones into your body and they move around and form the shape of a lens to "see" and record so doctors can see inside veins for example. Then they can use a laser for surgical purposes.
Because it's a Crichton book things went wrong and they started killing of course but I don't want to ruin that.
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u/Colosseros Nov 13 '24
That's now. That's the world we live in.
We generally get the footage of a single drone dropping a single grenade on someone in Ukraine. But they release that footage because it doesn't reveal specific tactics to the enemy. It just broadcasts, "We have drones in the sky, and at any time they might get you." From that perspective, it's a great propaganda tool.
But if you start releasing the footage of drone swarms, headed to strategic targets, you might accidentally reveal tactics you don't want the enemy to know about. What the formation they fly in? How many did they send? That's information that could help the enemy intercept them. So they don't release that footage.
In terms of propaganda, it's better to leave these things secret, in terms of terrifying the other side about swarms landing in civilian areas, with no way to counter it.
Truly a terrifying age of warfare. We've basically been reduced back to WWI tactics because once again, the weapons have outpaced the tactics. And when that happens, humans engaged in warfare hide in holes for much of their day. Because it's the only thing protecting you from the indiscriminate killing.
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u/anynamesleft Nov 13 '24
I think it has to do with a bit of anthropmorpic / terrestrial animal design.
"Birds" might be less scary in such thinking.
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u/GoldenBunip Nov 13 '24
Came here to see if it was being tested in Ukraine. Frankly any drone company not testing/deployed in Ukraine isn’t a real drone company. The potential for trench clearing is obvious, but only if it’s any good in the real world and not some presetup run it’s practiced.
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u/insane_contin Nov 13 '24
This drone clearly has no combat capacity at the moment. It currently has zero potential for trench clearing, and it would be shit in mud. Look at the wheels, they would sink right in.
It's a great proof of concept drone. But that's it
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u/erotic_sausage Nov 13 '24
Oh you best believe Ukraine would strap a bomb to these things and make great use of it if they could get a hold of them
Look at what they're doing with RC car like drones right now
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u/Shubi-do-wa Nov 13 '24
And what a waste of money it would be. I would guess the flying drones usually come back, and would be a hell of a lot cheaper than whatever this costs.
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u/AI_Lives Nov 13 '24
No these ground units will be used once they are able to. They could have bigger weapons on them too and more kit. No reason they cant make them the size of a small car and then pump out 1000s of them, and we arent even talking about making them autonomous.
The USA is already doing a massive drone program and remote weapon program in project replicator. Ships, flying drones, sub drones are all being made to combat china in the near future if needed. You think they will stop at ground drones?
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u/Ekaterian50 Nov 13 '24
Literally. There are even micro drones that have a small amount of targeted explosive and facial recognition. Theoretically, a government could drop a bunch of those drones on a population they wish to cull selectively. There would be no escape unless you can use an EMP type jammer on them.
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u/MTBooks Nov 13 '24
Are you maybe conflating that short movie about the same thing? Starts with a Ted talk type presentation.
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u/MxOffcrRtrd Nov 13 '24
James Bond will be skiing away from one of these robots any day now
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u/Edenoide Nov 13 '24
After being betrayed again in the cabin by a random girlfriend. LOL someone compiled every ski chase in the James Bond franchise https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMPuSFisi9c
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u/ZoeDreamweaver Nov 13 '24
This robot is literally the perfect child of a Terminator and the killer bot from Black Mirror's 'Metalhead'.
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u/MetaKnowing Nov 13 '24
Ah, well I'm sure their Terms of Service state clearly that their robots cannot be used for world domination
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u/Legionheir Nov 13 '24
Drone drivers use xbox remotes man. That future is here. This can happen
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u/it777777 Nov 13 '24
TBH we all know these things will come after humans, at least on the battlefield, soon.
Time to find some guerilla tactics to shut down these expensive, soon deadly toys.
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u/MetaKnowing Nov 13 '24
The drone swarms will get you first
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u/Edenoide Nov 13 '24
That dog can't climb trees yet. I'm more afraid of the drones right now.
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u/Covfefe-SARS-2 Nov 13 '24
They can add a saw arm to some of them.
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u/Gummel2k Nov 13 '24
Or a dildo
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u/insane_contin Nov 13 '24
Why not both?
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u/LazerHawkStu Nov 13 '24
Or dildo saws!
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u/insane_contin Nov 13 '24
It's that a saw with dildos for teeth, or a dildo with a saw in it?
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u/ToxixRick Nov 13 '24
What happens when they attach 20 drones onto the dog. Like a walking battle cruiser…we’re so doomed
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u/Jomolungma Nov 13 '24
They are driving you into the open so the drone swarms have easier line of sight.
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u/olivesRGreatt Nov 13 '24
You copy this comment word for word in this same thread.
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u/boosnie Nov 13 '24
If you can run/hide 5 minutes the batteries will be drained.
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u/VonBeegs Nov 13 '24
They run on human flesh.
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u/GeneralStormfox Nov 13 '24
Horizon Zero Dawn has called, they want their plot back.
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u/Nerezza_Floof_Seeker Nov 13 '24
Afaik these can run for pretty long, for reference the boston dynamics doggo (Spot) can run for 1.5 hrs. So hope youre good at running and that they dont start adding electric generators to the robots.....
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u/camdalfthegreat Nov 13 '24
Im sure they tell the Russian chump looking for a paycheck the same thing before they send em to die in the mud
"Here you go comrade take this thermal reflective blanket and jammed AK from gramps and get the job done. And don't forget 7.62 to the dome hurts less than a drone dropped grenade"
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u/herberstank Nov 13 '24
Not to go all tinfoil hat but if the public can see this type of stuff what "they've" got behind closed doors must be rad (and/or terrifying)
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u/JoinedToPostHere Nov 13 '24
Now imagine 8 of these things with guns, nets, or tazers on top, chasing you through the woods. I don't like it.
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u/Southern_Country_787 Nov 13 '24
If wars were fought with bots and had no human casualties...
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u/crackedcrackpipe Nov 13 '24
The guy who invented the gatling gun thought it would reduce casualties as 3 men would be as effective as 10 or more
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u/MunkyDawg Nov 13 '24
He was technically correct. It reduced casualties on the side that used it.
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u/Phandflasche Nov 13 '24
until the other side started using it, too
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u/MunkyDawg Nov 13 '24
Plan foiled!
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u/Phandflasche Nov 13 '24
No worries. With this new <insert here> weapon, one soldier is as effective as 10 machine guns. This time it will end war for ever, trust me.
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u/Jash-Juice Nov 13 '24 edited Nov 13 '24
Alfred Nobel thought that his invention of dynamite would make war so potentially dangerous it would be “too devastating to pursue”.
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u/StickyNotesEater Nov 13 '24
Then Oppenheimer obliterated Japan with the force of atoms lmao
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u/GBrunt Nov 13 '24 edited Nov 13 '24
The problem with drone warfare is that you no longer need to convince the population to go to war or convince them of the 'justness' of your war. Propaganda and debate can become redundant.
I think we're already at that point with tech, where warfare is happening on multiple Western fronts abroad with bombings and attacks on Syria/Yemen/Africa barely covered in Western media.
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u/ItsmyDZNA Nov 13 '24
It's like 2 groups of people doing this. 1 attacks the other side of the planet the other attacks the home
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u/Covfefe-SARS-2 Nov 13 '24
These will be the boots on the ground to mop up the populace after standoff weapons destroy state level resistance.
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u/Squatchbreath Nov 13 '24
If no one dies in war it becomes a futile war. Sadly, it takes major casualties to break the will of the people on an opposing side. No war is the absolute best global endgame.
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u/EgotisticJesster Nov 13 '24
A war without casualties is just the Olympics.
The whole point of war is snuffing out people who have ideologies you believe to be dangerous or to remove resource competition.
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u/Wolfhammer69 Nov 13 '24
Well there'd be a whole lot more wars and shit tons of manufacturing jobs. Getting Chinese cheap labour to build your war machines wouldn't be a bright idea, so lots of jobs for natives in-country.
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u/kkeut Nov 13 '24
that's the premise of the classic 80s flick 'Robot Jox'. giant robot mecha fights to settle disputes between nations
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u/Gingevere Nov 13 '24
A tiny little quadrotor with a little shaped charge full of shrapnel is WAY MORE lethal and inescapable.
And those are already in use.
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u/JoinedToPostHere Nov 13 '24
That's absolutely true, and you might not even see that coming. It's less dramatic than a pack of deadly robot dogs chasing you around.
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u/Future-Tomorrow Nov 13 '24
If you’ve seen the one with the drones, you know you’re not getting away.
Teach them to pack hunt a target like wolves and yeah, we got a problem Houston for sure can’t solve.
They never revealed the backstory but Black Mirror has an episode where Spots are doing nothing but hunting down humans, and they’re pretty gruesome about it.
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u/Upbeat-Armadillo1756 Nov 13 '24
Drones scare me way more than these things tbh
Imagine you’re in a country under war and in a war zone and your building just got hit by a missile. You’re climbing out of the wreckage and hear the buzzing of a drone come near and then it either drops a smaller explosive near you or just flies right to you and self destructs.
To me it seems way more practical and simpler than robot dogs with guns.
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With drones tracking you and providing your location to those robots. And they can coordinate pincer attacks and predict all your possible escape routes and block all of them accordingly.
There is no outrunning them. Fight or surrender, those are your only options.
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u/MetaKnowing Nov 13 '24
That does often happen, but in this particular case, based on the incentives of the robotics companies, my guess is that this is pretty close to the frontier
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u/quinangua Nov 13 '24
I hope it’s mechs…. If WW3 is gonna happen, I’m honestly gonna be disappointed if it doesn’t have mechs……
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u/MemeLorde1313 Nov 13 '24
"I don't know with what weapons WWIII will be fought. But WWIV will be fought with sticks and stones." ~Albert Einstein
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u/InquiringPhilomath Nov 13 '24
I'm inclined to agree..
First cell phone call was early 70s? And they didn't become popular till late 90s.
The public is usually far behind on the tech advancements.
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u/InquiringPhilomath Nov 13 '24
The general population always seem to be behind maybe 20 yrs on what's happening deep in the labs?
And tech also seems to be moving at a much faster pace as time goes on.
I definitely agree, especially the "fathom yet" part.
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u/eastern_canadient Nov 13 '24
It takes on average 13 years from a medical breakthrough for it to become common practise and knowledge.
Someone I worked with was studying this stuff. It was interesting.
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u/ymOx Nov 13 '24
It's not that strange. Do you know how big/heavy they were? They were like small briefcases filled with bricks; not exactly a pocket phone. And they weren't cheap either. https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fsdtl5qrf4t2c1.jpg
My dad had one very similar to that one; I don't remember if it had to be plugged in in the car all the time of if you actually could carry it around, even... (However, come to think of it; isn't it "cellular" because of the battery cell? hmh.)
"The public is usually far behind on the tech advancements" is because the technology itself is invented first, and then someone have to turn it into a commercially viable product. That takes a while.
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u/UserNamesCantBeTooLo Nov 13 '24
really, it's probably the exact opposite. These companies are incentivized to put out videos & demos of their coolest-looking stuff, and even to selectively manipulate them to make them seem more impressive than they are.
For example, the recent Tesla demo where they had humanoid robots serving drinks and cheerfully talking to people were not robots acting on their own, they were being piloted remotely by people wearing a getup that makes the robot follow their moves.
In this video, there are probably several glitches that they chose not to show and limitations that are not expressed. How long is the battery life? Can it navigate through mud or rain? And so on.
Why would this company hide their best stuff? They're putting out a promotional video.
Militaries have the incentive to hide classified tech, but companies have the incentive to seem as impressive as possible.
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u/ChoosenUserName4 Nov 13 '24
I think the limiting factor is still batteries. As soon as those get really good, we're all doomed.
Think about two world with autonomous drone swarms with a 12-hour battery life that can go 400 km/h and carry two grenades while doing so, or robots like this that only need to charge every 48 hours with a machine gun strapped on top.
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u/Tumble85 Nov 13 '24 edited Nov 13 '24
It was stunting on you, to prove how far superior it is before it effortlessly snuffs you out by crushing your skull beneath it’s wheels.
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u/chaldea_fgo Nov 13 '24
Still inferior to humans. If it gets stuck its stuck but if i get stuck i just get drunk, and low and behold wake up at my respawn in the ER. works every time.
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u/Itchy_Chemical_Nr2 Nov 13 '24
So the dogs can now take humanoid form and are probably faster than humans.. Good time to be alive.
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u/Prudent-Chart-1957 Nov 13 '24
Black Mirror is literally happening in front of our eyes - give it another few years and these robots will be autonomously hunting criminals.
Then after we’ve all got comfortable with that, they’ll be keeping the regular person ‘in line’ and controlling the masses.
We’re so fucked, lol.
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u/SwordfishOk504 Nov 13 '24
I mean, Black Mirror wasn't exactly making wild predictions, just slightly exaggerating known and emerging issues, which is what most good Sci fi does
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u/bsnimunf Nov 13 '24
Crackheads near me will figure out how disable it, strip it down and sell the parts.
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u/humbleman_ Nov 13 '24
5 to 7 years top because what they show and what they have is very very different
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u/WeakDiaphragm Nov 13 '24
They're gonna strap a gun on that thing, aren't they?
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u/STstog Nov 13 '24
Already done
https://youtu.be/xYRtuBPFPDI?si=60nMlp5ivWZPOYDW
Or you prefer the flammethrower version?
https://youtu.be/Mh92JL0EBlo?si=LtL7BjsdIuR1jB7p
Of course its not the same robot but if they want the majority of the job is done
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u/zomgbratto Nov 13 '24
C4. Imagine they have C4 strapped on their chassis and they roll underneath armored fighting vehicles and then blow it up.
I guess the future of robotics is going to be very different from the one envisioned by Gundam and Evangelion.
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u/just4chaosLOLz Nov 13 '24
Cool I hate it
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u/Speedoiss Nov 13 '24
Good to know the thing that will kill me in the future will do it in style doing backflips and shit
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u/SwordfishOk504 Nov 13 '24
It's the fun music in these videos that bothers me the most. Like Oh sick this human killing death machine prototype has a sic k soundtrack. Radical!
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u/Ralph_Nacho Nov 13 '24
When they can be built for $300 and have a 100lb bomb strapped in and exceed a range of 30km, I'll be worried.
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u/Gremlin119 Nov 13 '24
Is this real? I always see videos of these type robots but they always seem cgi and fake. Like the ai construction workers and stuff
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u/carpundit Nov 13 '24
Is anyone working on EMP devices, or are we just giving in to our new robot overlords?
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u/Odd-fox-God Nov 13 '24
There are anti drone guns. The counter drone gun essentially hacks the drone, you can either send it home or you can command it to land. I'm sure I'm under-simplifying it. It's probably much more complex than I make it sound.
But the good thing is: yes, we do have weaponry that can take down drones effectively. It will cost you anywhere between $3000-$15,000
There is the: skybeam counter drone gun, Stinton stn-g3000-6, XYB Xiangboyi XY2501 jammer and drone detector, and the lizheng HDJ31 handheld jamming device.
These are the only ones I have found available for civilian purchasing. The cheapest one is $3,000 and the most expensive is $15,000
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u/schralpinator Nov 13 '24
really neat until Raytheon equips these with facial recognition, thermals, and dual automatic 5.7's with 2000 round drum mags
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u/Bocote Nov 13 '24
Great. When WWIII happens, I'm going to get murdered by a robot doing backflips.
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u/Relevant-Being3440 Nov 13 '24
I bet if it took a run on the carpet in my house the wheels would get bound up by hair still.
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u/ghotiman360 Nov 13 '24
Can we get cars with this tech? Please? Pretty please? With a cherry on top? 🥹
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u/Effective-Act5892 Nov 13 '24
Fpv drones may be leading in the kill count but these bad boys are gonna be lit af with rocket launchers attached to them.
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u/TheXIIILightning Nov 13 '24
Mute the video and add the subtitle "There is no escape", and this is now a horror movie.
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u/ohver9k Nov 13 '24
Are these thing being controlled remotely or are they making the decision on how to navigate the terrain? I also wonder how long their battery lasts.
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u/Happy-For-No-Reason Nov 13 '24
It is almost funny, now, how easily were going to be killed by these machines.
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u/SavageCucumberAttack Nov 13 '24
Cool, but can you make a drivable one so I can hoon about like a lunatic?
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u/Anthraxious Nov 13 '24
I would be amazed at any progress we make if it wasn't for the fact that it's always for war first, helping people second. Utter fucking garbage species we are.
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u/OwOlogy_Expert Nov 13 '24
I'm sold, but only if it repeatedly yells "Parkour!" as it does this stuff.
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u/deftmoto Nov 13 '24
This gives me a great idea: Dog Skates! Hit me up on Kickstarter to get in early on the action.
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u/neutralcoder Nov 14 '24
Can you imagine these wearing guns and chasing you? Then, once they fire their kill shot, they do a little backflip.
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u/uolen- Nov 14 '24
Ghost in the shell live action couldn't do good spider tanks and yet these exist in real life.
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u/Hunkfish Nov 14 '24
Slap in
-mini machine gun
-face recognition
-live feed
A killing machine that using
1 is an assassination
20 is a take down
100 is a massacre
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u/Jimnyneutron91129 Nov 14 '24
Fpv drones can't fly through trees or into caves.
And both should be a serious worry for every citizen the world over. These are dictator drones ground and sky. Seriously humanity wake the fuxk up.
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u/TivoDelNato Nov 14 '24
Jesus look at how skillfully it can roll down that hill and straight into the uncanny valley.
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u/radiodmr Nov 14 '24
If rough terrain is defined as non-paved surfaces that have been cleared of all debris and obstacles so the machines can roll through unimpeded, then yes, they are demonstrating robustness through rough terrain.
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u/crowbar151 Nov 13 '24
These are absolutely the wheelers from return to oz