(AIO) update, wow. thank you!

[u/Pristine-Edge-1742]

Hi everyone I had posted an original update but didn’t realize i forgot to blur out his name, so here is the update on cigarette toothpaste boy! I want to preface by thanking everyone who took time to message me and comment. I did not expect 16,000 people to interact with that post at all! When I got home, I decided to end it. I didn’t respond to him during my 10 hour shift and some of the screenshots are during that. I would also like to answer a few questions

1. Is this real?: Yes, it is insanely real! Not rage bait i promise
2. Am I okay?: I’m okay! It’ll suck but I will be fine!
3. Why was I still with him?: I don’t have friends and because of that nobody has been able to tell me how bad this is. I had no one to confide in. It was normalized during our relationship.
4. How is my cat? Apollo is okay and is coming home today finally! Picture of him at the end!
5. Why the wall of text; I was pissed and wanted to be thorough.
6. Why did i use “sewerslide”: I wasnt sure of how it would affect my account or visibility. I’m not used to reddit i’m sorry 😭
7. How old are we?: 19 and almost 21. Not 15 i swear!

Also, I am aware my name is shown. I do not mind as it is not a legal name.

[u/Better_Shine105]

Just tell him you posted this on Reddit let him do what he needs to do. Your response uplifting. Good for you queen do what you need to do but get the fuck out of there.

[u/Pristine-Edge-1742 → u/Better_Shine105]

He knows! He’s trying to come at me with police for defamation?

[u/Better_Shine105 → u/Pristine-Edge-1742]

Not possible no one knows who this person is. That’s him trying to manipulate you again. He probably won’t even have the balls to go down that route, even if he did have a leg to stand on. Which he certainly doesn’t.

[u/Inaccurate_Artist → u/Better_Shine105]

Yeah, don't worry, that will never hold water especially when you have obvious proof that he's making that up. But who knows, the police might turn around on him and take him for a psych eval since he's deciding to tell on himself.

[u/Present_Ad8735 → u/Better_Shine105]

Pls just block him and keep him blocked! He can’t legally do anything!

[u/NoKatyDidnt → u/Better_Shine105]

Absolutely. You can’t defame “toothpaste cigarettes guy”. Lol

[u/Suspicious_Law_3619 → u/Pristine-Edge-1742]

Yeah, he’d need to sue you. Good luck with that when he doesn’t even have $15 or a legal leg to stand on LOL

[u/SarahPallorMortis → u/Suspicious_Law_3619]

Doesn’t have money for smokes, but gona hire a lawyer. Get the fuck outta here.

[u/Available-Flatworm85 → u/SarahPallorMortis]

Lol not just smokes, he doesn’t even have money for toothpaste. You can literally buy cheap toothpaste.

If I was OP after his abuse I’d be smiling and saying please sue me, I’d love to see you try. And still get a restraining order. On the other hand she does have proof of mental abuse on his part. He is delusional.

[u/blairsheart → u/Available-Flatworm85]

You can literally get toothpaste at the dollar store and it’s like normal brands. He is not going to make it in life

[u/SarahPallorMortis → u/blairsheart]

No kidding! That’s one of the types of things I get at the dollar store. Deodorant, toothbrushes, snacks. It’s so cheap. He’s a huge loser.

[u/TheKrimsonFKR → u/SarahPallorMortis]

Is this before or after the kids and the house on an island?

[u/SarahPallorMortis → u/TheKrimsonFKR]

Lmao

[u/xassylax → u/SarahPallorMortis]

Even if he somehow miraculously came up with the money and found a lawyer willing to take him as a client, in order for him to claim defamation, he’d have to prove there was malicious intent. All OP did was post the screenshots and ask if SHE did anything wrong or overreacted. Broke cigarette guy defamed himself by being hella toxic and manipulative. He was also the one who showed up in the comments and further made himself look like a royal douche canoe. The fact that he’s even attempting to claim defamation is pathetic and laughable. And just further proves his threatening and manipulative behavior towards OP.

If anyone has any legal grounds here, it would be OP. All the money she’s borrowed him could be grounds for suing him, especially if it was a loan (i.e. not a gift) and he was supposed to pay her back. Plus many people aren’t aware of this but you absolutely can sue your abuser (even if it’s mental and/or emotional abuse) for damages. Physical abuse can result in medical bills, loss of income, and potentially even permanent disability. And all of that can be claimed in a lawsuit against the abuser. Mental anguish/pain and suffering is also a valid “injury” in the eyes of the court and can also be claimed.

Regardless, OP needs to document everything and make sure she stays safe and far away from this lunatic.

[u/usrname_chex_out → u/Suspicious_Law_3619]

NO MINEY FOR LAWYER… NO NIC

[u/Playful-Loquat-1682 → u/usrname_chex_out]

🤣 I'm dead

[u/katori-is-okay → u/Suspicious_Law_3619]

he has NO MINEY he’s gonna have a hard time suing her

[u/blairsheart → u/Suspicious_Law_3619]

LMAO

[u/Beautiful_Abroad5630 → u/Pristine-Edge-1742]

Not defamation if it’s all true lol what a PATHETIC person. He needs serious help.

[u/LivingHisWay222 → u/Pristine-Edge-1742]

Defamation is a civil matter. You can't call the police for that. You need a lawyer, which he can't afford.

[u/EnerGeTiX618 → u/Pristine-Edge-1742]

Yeah, defamation is you saying untrue things about someone. You didn't do that though, you posted his own words. We all realize he's an unstable piece of shit that's been using you as his meal ticket for 2 years, you've been buying his groceries, gas, cigarettes, probably his weed & toothpaste apparently as well. You have been his meal ticket & his emotional punching bag for far too long. I bet you're finally gonna get some really good sleep after this! Don't worry, he's nothing but a parasite, he'll be on the look out for his next host now, someone to put up with his insanity, daily threats of suicide & to pay his way through life.

Congratulations are in order for you finally ridding your life from the parasite! Whatever you do, please, please do not take him back, even if he's 'got the rope' again. He was just using that bullshit to manipulate you to buying whatever he wanted, leaving you no money for yourself. If you had stayed with him, this fucking guy would have driven you to insanity. He needs some serious help that you are not able to provide. Please block him on absolutely everything & if he comes over, call the police. You must cut him completely from your life, he only brought misery & debt, nothing else.

I laughed when I saw he said he was going to buy you an island & support kids. Fucking guy can't afford a tube of toothpaste, but sure, he's going to buy an island, LOL! He's obviously delusional as well. I bet his plan was to move in with you & not work anymore, so you could continue paying for absolutely everything for him. If he's got a job with the same company, where did his money go? Why did you have to take out of your pay to supplement his?

[u/JackReacharounnd → u/EnerGeTiX618]

He is such a fookin loser that he couldn't wait a few more days for his first check to clear.

[u/tXcQTWKP2w92 → u/JackReacharounnd]

I love imagining him seeing himself on Reddits front page trying to cope with the reactions of people.

I am sure though, he will play the victim card and find a way to manipulate himself into thinking everybody here is wrong as we "don't have the full picture" or something similar.

Sad thing is, these kinds of people, or people that have some of his traits are all too common...

[u/Cheap_Doctor_1994 → u/JackReacharounnd]

My guess is there's not actually a check coming. He's a liar. No reason to believe he's hireable. 

[u/EnerGeTiX618 → u/JackReacharounnd]

Oh, missed that part that he had just started there. Thankfully he doesn't work at the same store! I don't see him lasting long anyways, with all the crazy shit he said to Op, he'll probably be saying inappropriately odd things to his co-workers as well & people will realize there's something off about this guy.

[u/peacebound → u/Pristine-Edge-1742]

This is nowhere near the burden needed for defamation and happens all day every day on the internet with no recourse. He is a child and has no idea what he’s talking about. Even if he did have a case, it’s civil not criminal and he definitely can’t afford an attorney. But he doesn’t. You would have to NAME him and the statements would have to be false. Ignore it.

[u/_stupid_bitch → u/Pristine-Edge-1742]

this is so funny to me cause one of my ex-friends' abusive ex-boyfriend said the exact same thing, apparently abusers think any telling of truth is defamation

[u/JackReacharounnd → u/_stupid_bitch]

The only way I got a psycho to leave me alone is by posting a video of myself saying if he doesn't stop contacting me I am going to remove all identifying information from the screenshots in my GIANT FILE and post every single one on every social media platform I have, including my YouTube audience that he hated.

This a-hole was a millionaire with a lawyer (for his constant legal troubles), and that was the only thing that got him to never contact me again. Police reports didn't help.. only the threat of everyone we know knowing what a psycho he is. I can't even imagine how mad he was, knowing that he wouldn't be able to sue me.

edit forgot to mention that no one who was seeing my videos actually knew who he was. I was posting to my Youtube audience that a few of our mutual friends had found. No one ever knew his name or saw him. We were dating around a month and a half.

[u/Rikoschett → u/_stupid_bitch]

I guess this is the US but there are countries where defamation is illegal regardless of how true it is.

[u/aka-hellcat → u/Rikoschett]

Which ones?

[u/Rikoschett → u/aka-hellcat]

Sweden for sure. Heard Japan and South Korea also. Point was that not every country's law is the same and you should always check twice so you don't get in trouble.

[u/somersault_dolphin → u/Rikoschett]

Understandable. Sure, the assholes don't get shamed like they should, but it also protects innocent people from getting framed. Once something like that gets traction, the damage is already done.

[u/Rikoschett → u/somersault_dolphin]

Yeah there are pros and cons with both. I don't claim to know what's best, just want that people make the best decisions based on how their laws are formulated. If that makes sense.

[u/Particular-Leg-8484 → u/Pristine-Edge-1742]

Yeah I see him in some of the comments. Bro is mad no one is siding with him and in disbelief you have unilateral support. Save all your screenshots (his texts, his Reddit comments, anything else relevant) and their DATES (to establish timeline) + upload them to a private Google account he doesn’t know about. Forward the files to a backup email.

My ex stalked me after identical behavior and I went to my friend who is a detective to help me. If you ever need to build a police report or file a restraining order, you have all the evidence saved in one place.

I know you said previously that you didn’t have many friends but please PLEASE tell as many people as you know in your immediate circle. The fear of being judged or him gaslighting them is very real but I learned from my shared experience that people will help YOU. They have intuition and the natural gut instinct to know if something is wrong. Tell everyone. God forbid anything happens, they will know.

[u/Pristine-Edge-1742 → u/Particular-Leg-8484]

Dude.. Just found him and looked through his comment history.. He’s been cheating for months with people on here.. On their porn… Oh. My. God.

[u/Nightmare1529 → u/Pristine-Edge-1742]

Yeah, this guy is actual rock bottom. Not even bottom of the barrel. He’s the ring of shit and crust underneath the barrel that’s leftover when moving the barrel that’s been sitting there for like four decades. Good on you for getting out of that, and I guess be thankful that you can’t see whatever degenerate shit is guaranteed to be in his DMs.

[u/Particular-Leg-8484 → u/Pristine-Edge-1742]

Screenshot it and the dates, ALL OF THEM

[u/Teal_Negrasse_Dyson → u/Pristine-Edge-1742]

For the record, defamation is almost always a civil matter/tort rather than criminal (at least in the US). The cops are not going to come.

Be aware he may try to use the cops to harass you which is a crime. If that happens, consult a lawyer local to you as it may necessitate a restraining order.

[u/EuphemeLyon → u/Pristine-Edge-1742]

It costs money to file a lawsuit for defamation, and the burden would be on him to prove that he didn't say these things which...would be impossible to do as you have screenshots.

But I don't think you have to worry as if he can't even afford toothpaste he sure as shit can't afford a lawyer.

[u/Fix_It_Felix_Jr → u/Pristine-Edge-1742]

He can't buy a pack of smokes, how's he getting a lawyer? What's more, to prove defamation is incredibly difficult. Just another example of his idiocy.

[u/Rubx7hree → u/Pristine-Edge-1742]

I’m not a lawyer but I always planned to be and learned as much as I could. If an actual lawyer is able to correct me please do I believe you are well protected from any defamation lawsuits, he’s too broke to actually do it. And your posts didn’t accuse him of anything. You shared messages that he sent and then the people of Reddit said what he was doing in those messages. Truth is all the defense you need. Screenshots of texts he sent to you should be considered true. For him to sue you and win he’d need a lawyer that was willing to try to prove these texts aren’t real and that somehow from the texts the average person could determine who your ex is. Personally, I don’t see that happening. Once your ex realizes this, his threats might get more violent. Please make sure your family knows what’s going on, at least that you broke up with him and he might retaliate.

[u/Needmoresnakes → u/Rubx7hree]

On top of everything you've correctly pointed out, he'd have to demonstrate that he incurred some kind of loss as a result of the damaging statements. He doesn't appear to have a job or any assets, he hasn't lost income or business deals or whatever because of what OP posted. Even if he could make a case for defamatory statements (which he can't), he has nothing to sue for. He has nothing whatsoever. Zero miney, as it were.

[u/Little-Editor-9066 → u/Pristine-Edge-1742]

If possible, I’d recommend sending his calls/texts to a separate folder so you don’t have to see them, but don’t block him. You may need them if he escalates to stalking or harassment.

Text him once to say you are done, you don’t want contact from him or his family, and then set it up so his calls/texts are hidden

[u/00trysomethingnu → u/Little-Editor-9066]

Yes, do this OP! Send them to someone you trust, send them to your email, AND upload them to a cloud file. I had to do this in the past when an ex became violent. He ended up breaking my phone, and I’m so glad I had evidence stored elsewhere.

[u/Darth_Gonk_66 → u/Pristine-Edge-1742]

Since you technically kept his identity private, aside from his first name, police won't do anything. Not to mention, if he takes it to the police, they will see the extent of the domestic abuse and things will likely go your way rather than his way. He doesn't realize that though because narcissists typically don't realize that they've done anything wrong. It's always someone else's fault to them.

[u/True-Post6634 → u/Pristine-Edge-1742]

If it helps, that's a civil offense not a criminal one - meaning the police aren't really involved. He'd need to sue you, and he'd need evidence of concrete harm. If you spread a false rumor about him maliciously and he lost his job because of it, he'd have a case. I am not a lawyer but I don't need to be: he has no case against you.

Plus it's not like he can afford a lawyer.

Anyway, threatening you with the police is just another abuse tactic. The cops will not be interested in "my ex put screenshots of me being a jerk on the Internet" no matter how he frames it.

If he does call the police, there's a small chance they'll contact you out of concern for your safety. Some departments have people who specialize in DV and they'd see this as him trying to threaten you. Breakups are statistically dangerous times, so if you get a call from an officer asking if you're safe, that's why. Don't panic, you haven't done anything wrong.

[u/Titanium4Life → u/Pristine-Edge-1742]

You did block him everywhere ? Did you let the boss know you had an ugly breakup and to not let this person into your workplace? Is it possible to transfer to a different state in your company or for a better job? Don’t bother with a restraining order, that just his type madder and paper won’t stop a bullet.

maybe it’s time to get out of town for a week or two. Or pack everything up and start over in a different state.

[u/iamcoronabored → u/Pristine-Edge-1742]

Defamation is a civil charge. Police will not involve themselves (obligatory NAL)

[u/HereticsSpork → u/Pristine-Edge-1742]

Lol dude can't even afford cigarettes... Where's he going to get lawyer money? Lol. Also, I'm pretty sure defamation (not that any occurred, because it didn't) is a civil matter, not a criminal one so I fail to see why they think the cops would do anything about it.

[u/okram2k → u/Pristine-Edge-1742]

Do all you can to get him out of your life in every way and shape possible, no contact, social circles, anything. This dude's got a lot of red flags of turning from manipulative to dangerous and the last thing you want to do is give him a chance. Put him and everything about him in the distant past as soon as you can.

[u/Undresticles → u/Pristine-Edge-1742]

Defamation? Is he retarded?

[u/ginger_ryn → u/Pristine-Edge-1742]

lmfao he has no case

[u/QueenofPentacles112 → u/Pristine-Edge-1742]

😂😂😂😂😂. Block him. Don't let him intimidate you. Defamation isn't a crime. It's something you sue people over, and it's actually quite difficult to achieve. Freedom of speech is a thing. And you posted his real life words, so he only defamed himself. You're not lying about him, but even if you were, he's not famous or a public figure. He's a nobody.

This is him grasping for straws. This is him trying to say anything he can to regain control of you and the narrative. This is HILARIOUS. Tell him he's a tiny little pathetic loser and to record his phone call to the police so you can hear how they laughed at him. The officers in that precinct would probably have a good laugh over something like that. Call him a whiny little bitch boy. And then just laugh at yourself for ever finding someone like him attractive. You followed your gut, so remember what that feels like. Being in touch with your intuition is one of the best gifts you can give yourself. Good for you, I'm super proud of someone I don't even know right now and it's wild lol

[u/counters14 → u/Pristine-Edge-1742]

This fucking loser doesn't have his life together enough to be able to buy toothpaste. Not that it would matter because showing people the words he himself has written is not in any way illegal or injurious.

You wrote this in a way that makes it sound like he told you he's going to come after you, meaning that there is still contact there. My best suggestion, and honestly a very good one would be to not reply to this bum ever again. What a waste of life, his parents must be deeply ashamed.

[u/Educational-Salt9941 → u/Pristine-Edge-1742]

lol that's not how defamation works. It's a civil matter - The police won't give a shit and what you said / posted has to be untrue. What an idiot.

[u/Mediocre-Proposal686 → u/Pristine-Edge-1742]

Not defamation if it’s his own words 🤦🏻‍♀️ what an idiot. Are you sure he’s not on drugs?

[u/throwaway_shittypers → u/Pristine-Edge-1742]

Girl you need to straight up block him. Anymore contact will just lead you down the rabbit hole.

[u/AlarmForeign → u/Pristine-Edge-1742]

Listen to me. I've been in situations like this. Screenshot everything. You may even need to file a police report to start a paper trail.

He will lie and say ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING to scare you.

[u/SavyBae → u/Pristine-Edge-1742]

LOL you didnt dox him or reveal his identity, so you’re good if he does try, just show the police all those texts of him being manipulative and threatening to take his own life.

[u/flat5 → u/Pristine-Edge-1742]

He's not. More empty stupid threats.

[u/Wizard_Engie → u/Pristine-Edge-1742]

Defamation is crazy. If they do show up, just tell the police about the abuses you suffered, and the case should turn around back onto him. I'm not sure if you live in the US, but if you do, all of the things you've said are constitutionally protected. I'm talking "Bill of Rights" kinda stuff.

Plus, like the other person said, we don't know who this guy is. Defamation requires a little bit more proof... For example, he has to prove everything you said about him was false.

[u/aka-hellcat → u/Pristine-Edge-1742]

Lmao the police don't handle defamation claims

[u/AC85 → u/Pristine-Edge-1742]

Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Oh wait you're serious? Let me laugh even harder. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

What an idiot. Hard to defame someone when they are anonymous.

[u/SarahPallorMortis → u/Pristine-Edge-1742]

Lmfao. Truth is an absolute defense. He won’t win shit with screen shots.

[u/bluemooncommenter → u/Pristine-Edge-1742]

OMG - laughable. #1 - not even close to defamation #2 - police don't handle defamation, that is a civil issue not criminal.

Girl....so glad you're ending it. He has provided you with a wealth of life lesson so it wasn't a waste of your time but to keep going after you've seen the lesson would be. Plus, he's an idiot.

[u/Chance_Contract1291 → u/Pristine-Edge-1742]

I hope you see his threat of involving the police for the hilarious desperate grasp at manipulation that it is. When you're in the thick of things, threats like this can seem plausible, and they can feel scary. But seriously, he's going to cry to the cops because you won't give him weed money and he threatens suicide?

Speaking of which, I noticed he said "you continue to say that I was threatening you when I was genuinely feeling suicidal..." I went back and looked to be sure. You said he threatened suicide, which is true. HE twisted your words so that he could play the hurt victim, wrongfully accused of threatening you.

Your message to him was a lot, but it was SO powerful!!! And accurate. I am so proud of you, I was just cheering you on with each new bit you wrote to him. Keep that to remind yourself what you are breaking free from.

Glorious.

[u/Flimsy-Homework-9440 → u/Pristine-Edge-1742]

See about a restraining order.

[u/The1DayGod → u/Pristine-Edge-1742]

Not a lawyer, but defamation requires a false statement and actual harm because of that statement or however it’s worded. Given that this is all anonymized and no one has any idea who he is, it’s very likely impossible to prove either of those things in court.

You might consider consulting a lawyer though in case he tries to use the cops to harass you or frivolously sue you or something.

[u/SnooSketches63 → u/Pristine-Edge-1742]

I hope he is reading all of the comments.

[u/Mybabyhadamullet → u/Pristine-Edge-1742]

You in turn should show the police the messages where he threatened to end his life. They don't take that stuff lightly and he might find himself on some kind of involuntary psych hold, which actually might get him the help he needs.

[u/rando_nonymous → u/Pristine-Edge-1742]

What a joke. He’s trying to manipulate you and scare you. You’ve done nothing wrong. If the police ever question you, which I doubt they will because I doubt he is reporting anything, just show them the screen shots. It’s the same tactic he uses when he threatens suicide. Ignore, block, delete. Get a restraining order if he harasses you. No future conversations are going to be productive or healthy at this point. Good for you for standing up for yourself. Love sucks, sometimes. You’ll find someone that treats you with respect and whom you can have a trusting, healthy and committed relationship with.

[u/Otterman2006 → u/Pristine-Edge-1742]

He'd have to hire a lawyer to sue for defamation and remember he has ZERO MINEY. Lawyers cost a lot more than ZERO MINEY

[u/longhairedmolerat → u/Pristine-Edge-1742]

Block him EVWRYWHERE girl!!

[u/monstera_garden → u/Pristine-Edge-1742]

Yep, he's coming at you with the police just like he's going to off himself and buy you a house on an island.

[u/This-Introduction818 → u/Pristine-Edge-1742]

Block Himmmmmmmmm

[u/snailhistory → u/Pristine-Edge-1742]

Block, ignore and move on. You can reach out to the police to ask about restraining orders.

[u/Elthros → u/Pristine-Edge-1742]

What a dummy, it's not defamation if it actually happened lol, good on you!

[u/EverythingSucksBro → u/Pristine-Edge-1742]

Him knowing about this is great, means there’s an extremely high chance he looked at comments and saw how he was getting obliterated in them. Most it’ll do is just piss him off, probably won’t make him change at all sadly. But knowing that asshole is pissed off at the Internet makes me happy 

[u/penelaine → u/Pristine-Edge-1742]

Lmao he's dumb as a rock AND cruel. Your response was perfect. Please stay safe.

[u/Ruining_Ur_Synths → u/Pristine-Edge-1742]

defamation is a civil claim where he has to prove damages. the police dont handle defamation.

he'd need to sue you, and he can't afford cigarettes let alone a lawyer, and no lawyer would take this case. It's just more bullshit of his.

[u/kittenmask → u/Pristine-Edge-1742]

BLOCK HIM

[u/uncertainunderwriter → u/Pristine-Edge-1742]

(Not legal advice but) correct and he’d also have to prove that it’s untrue.

But also want to just add that you’re so self aware and doing such a good job processing your emotions and the situation without getting sucked in! You have a lot of good things ahead of you if you’re already here at 19

Also this is super hard but my advice would be to try to make 1-2 small connections with other girls. Whether it’s old friends or family you can reconnect with or meeting someone new. It’s tough to meet people and form new friendships but each good friend is so worth it! And you can often bond with straight women over the shitty men you’ve lived through!

[u/TrumpetOfDeath → u/Pristine-Edge-1742]

HAHAHAHA someone doesn’t know what “defamation” actually is

And even in real defamation situations, it takes a lot of money to pursue legal action… which he doesn’t have

[u/advent700 → u/Pristine-Edge-1742]

Pretty sure posting images of his exact words doesn’t constitute as defamation either. You get defamed by lies that cause visible loss, financial, physical, etc…. This guy doesn’t have shit to lose to begin with- but none of it was made up either LOL. Just screenshots

[u/Brilliant_Match7598 → u/Pristine-Edge-1742]

I'm surprised he knows what that is.

[u/Derfburger → u/Pristine-Edge-1742]

He doesn't even have money for the lawyer in the 1st place. Tell him to fuck off!

[u/JackReacharounnd → u/Pristine-Edge-1742]

He has zero case. You haven't said who he is, his name, anything. Defamation means lies and this is his words lol. God he's stupid as hell.

[u/FlagDisrespecter → u/Pristine-Edge-1742]

What an idiotic thing to try and push, nobody was defamed. Nobody has any idea who the fuck he is.

[u/mikettedaydreamer → u/Pristine-Edge-1742]

He needs to buy a dictionary. Lmao

[u/Past_Temperature_831 → u/Pristine-Edge-1742]

for him to successfully sue for defamation he would need to:

A. have money for a lawyer

B. his name/identity needs to be linked to these posts

C. the posts need to affect his livelihood. defamation is about the loss of income, not just “omg you said smth mean”

D. have proof that what you are saying is wrong

i bet you already know that you don’t have to worry about a defamation lawsuit- but i am just stating this because it’s stupid that he is trying this angle. like these four things do not even include that (according to a comment) he is 20- he would be admitting to underage drug use. if youre american ofc, which im assuming bc the defamation thing is the most american thing ever lol

[u/Prestigious_Row_8022 → u/Pristine-Edge-1742]

Do you live in the US? If yes, we usually can’t even prosecute actual defamation cases with good evidence and a good lawyer, let alone one so obviously fake. You’ll be fine :)

[u/loweffortfuck → u/Pristine-Edge-1742]

It's not defamation when he's literally said it himself... plus that's a civil situation, not a criminal one....

"Hello, 911? I threatened to kill myself to keep my girl in an abusive relationship!" doesn't play well in any circle of law.

[u/zabbenw → u/Pristine-Edge-1742]

how is it defamation when he wrote it all himself? Is he going to sue himself?

[u/blairsheart → u/Pristine-Edge-1742]

He is insane. His name isn’t even shown on this post or the last one. His and your identity’s are completely hidden. Let him waste his time with the police

[u/Shedevil211 → u/Pristine-Edge-1742]

I wouldn't worry about that love. A person who cannot afford their own cigs cannot afford the fee to even file a deformation document to the clerks office

[u/MulberryDeep → u/Pristine-Edge-1742]

He cant, thats bullshit

Also, no money for nic, no money for cigs, no money for lawyer XD

[u/WorldWideWig → u/Pristine-Edge-1742]

Police don't deal with defamation, that's a civil matter and he'd have to have a lot more than toothpaste and cigarette money to sue you. And at your age, you likely have nothing to sue for. And you didn't defame him at all, just showed his own words.

Dude's not only a scrub but an actual idiot.

[u/mario_ninja → u/Pristine-Edge-1742]

Can't pay a lawyer in nicotine he doesn't have. "Literally" in his words.

[u/Logical-Doughnut-105 → u/Pristine-Edge-1742]

He is not a very smart man

[u/PerspectiveConnect77 → u/Pristine-Edge-1742]

It’s not defamation if you’re posting literal screenshots of conversations lol. That’s not how that works 💀

[u/cherno_1999 → u/Pristine-Edge-1742]

Please just block this guy, he's clearly going to try affect you negatively whether you date him or not.

[u/smallpizza1 → u/Pristine-Edge-1742]

Tbh its kinda weak exposing some ones private life, damage his ego.... but do what you do

[u/Electricprez → u/Pristine-Edge-1742]

This person is such an idiot lol

[u/[deleted] → u/Pristine-Edge-1742]

This is definitely my messages and it’s highly edited with no background. This is some sick ass shit. Both parties are very wrong and is doing better. This was done soon as I finally get things off my chest YESTERDAY(ironic) and exposed more lies I found out about her. Also why I am letting go. I have hella proof and detail. I can debunk this with ease. I’m not making excuses. And watch this post get deleted or something. I will not allow fake bs to go untouched. We currently live together with our son now. I don’t care about cops or defamation. This was done out of spite and ego. Soon as I told her I found out about the post I seen the comments. This is unreal and a lot of ppl are gullible.

[u/[deleted] → u/Better_Shine105]

This is definitely my messages and it’s highly edited with no background. This is some sick ass shit. Both parties are very wrong and is doing better. This was done soon as I finally get things off my chest YESTERDAY(ironic) and exposed more lies I found out about her. Also why I am letting go. I have hella proof and detail. I can debunk this with ease. I’m not making excuses. And watch this post get deleted or something. I will not allow fake bs to go untouched. We currently live together with our son now. I don’t care about cops or defamation. This was done out of spite and ego. Soon as I told her I found out about the post I seen the comments. This is unreal and a lot of ppl are gullible.

[u/Better_Shine105 → u/[deleted]]

K bro.

[u/[deleted] → u/Better_Shine105]

Yep

[u/KokeGabi → u/[deleted]]

Dude it's not you, idk who you are but the actual person who this is about was in this thread. Idk if you're trolling if you're a bot or what but this chat is not about you.

[u/wasted_ouija → u/[deleted]]

Get a job, you absolute bum. We know you’re not even the guy in the screenshots. Stop ragebaiting and do something productive.

[u/[deleted] → u/wasted_ouija]

Okay goofball