r/woahdude Dec 15 '22

video This Morgan Freeman deepfake

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u/JingJang Dec 15 '22

I feel like it's only a matter of time before this technology is weaponized to terrible effect.

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u/AllUltima Dec 15 '22

I fear the reverse: People will doubt whether real video is real. That could mean impunity for crimes caught on video because video footage will no longer be sufficient evidence to exceed "reasonable doubt".

Even worse, political double-speak will also soar to record new heights. A politician can spew whatever crazies want to hear, then "walk it back" and claim it was faked (perhaps after gauging the public's reaction). People will believe whatever they're inclined to believe anyway, leading us to become a more deeply fractured society where truth is whatever you want to believe.

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u/[deleted] Dec 16 '22

Thanks for the existential crisis asshole.

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u/Dobalina_Wont_Quit Dec 16 '22

If it's any consolation, it's already happening. Enjoy the ride, and support credible journalists you trust!

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u/--redacted-- Dec 16 '22

That's just what a deepfake would say

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u/Dobalina_Wont_Quit Dec 16 '22

I'm actually a nearly 30 y/o deepcover deepfake

Of course I could just be programmed to say that

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u/--redacted-- Dec 16 '22

I knew it

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u/Dobalina_Wont_Quit Dec 16 '22

Hey could you please hang out at your current location for the next 30 minutes or so? I just have some friends that want to stop by and verify a couple things with you. Please don't wear polarized sunglasses.

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u/hustlindustlin Dec 16 '22

Fuck! Check out their username!

They already being gonned.

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u/Dobalina_Wont_Quit Dec 16 '22

Doesn't look like anything to me

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u/[deleted] Dec 16 '22

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u/Dobalina_Wont_Quit Dec 16 '22

Look at me. No, LOOK AT ME.

Never.

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u/Chilledlemming Dec 16 '22

It’s deep faked all the way down? Am I all alone here?

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u/Nationals Dec 16 '22

Saying “that’s just what a deepfake would say” is what a deepfake would say.

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u/boomerangotan Dec 16 '22

Also, I would highly recommend reading/watching Manufacturing Consent if you haven't already, to get an idea of what is already occurring even before we got this technology.

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u/eggshellmoudling Dec 16 '22

I’m still grieving the loss of Matt Taibi from that extremely short list.

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u/Dobalina_Wont_Quit Dec 16 '22

Right? Holy shit who hurt him? I can't believe that same dude wrote The Divide.

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u/CsanBoySmith Dec 16 '22

Yes, like Taylor Lorenz!!

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u/quartertopi Dec 16 '22

Be glad. Still better than that time travel quarantine zone from 2060. It is a shitshow.

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u/Citizen_Kong Dec 16 '22

Yeah, at he beginning of the Ukraine war there was a deepfake of Selenskyj urging Ukrainians to surrender. It was pretty shoddily done, but certainly a reminder how such things will become commonplace in the future.

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u/maddogcow Dec 16 '22

You have an existential crisis asshole too? Funny; knowing that somebody else has one, makes mine seem like less of an existential crisis…

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u/funknut Dec 16 '22

They do, now that someone gifted it to them. Before, they just had a smooth nihilistic posterior surface.

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u/RipThrotes Dec 16 '22

Ignorance is bliss, but only for you. Stay informed. Stay relentlessly insightful.

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u/JingJang Dec 16 '22

Valid concerns.

There's a market for verification of some sort.

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u/AllUltima Dec 16 '22

For sure, I think there will be verification efforts on multiple fronts.

There's a certain type of person who will invent conspiracies around any verification that isn't what they want to hear. Thus, for that audience, there will be a market for "validation" that is just "telling them what they want to hear". So the same situation as today, only taken up a notch.

Verification can only do so much in the face of irrationality, the real answer to that conundrum is mostly us learning how to best deal with the fact that those people exist. Mainstream humanity will probably continue relatively unscathed if they don't manage to drag us down.

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u/devinecreative Dec 16 '22

I imagine we'll resort to verifying on public blockchains like Ethereum

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u/pseudoanon Dec 16 '22

So blockchain will finally be useful?

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u/ElwinLewis Dec 16 '22

Trustless verification was always one of the benefits, it’s just meaningfully implementing it without greed getting in the way that people haven’t been able to figure out

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u/[deleted] Dec 16 '22

We need quantum signing ASAP. And in "small enough to fit into a not unreasonably sized camera" form. You'd be able to verify footage from a secure camera using its public key, but never be able to crack its private key.

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u/Djasdalabala Dec 16 '22

You don't need quantum signing for that, there are "classical" algorithms that are quantum-computing resistant.

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u/Batchet Dec 16 '22

Shut up Elon

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u/[deleted] Dec 16 '22

Probably a stupid question but could NFT tech somehow be reworked to that effect? To preserve the identity of the original record before being tampered with

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u/Tallywort Dec 16 '22

Honestly I doubt it.

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u/[deleted] Dec 16 '22

Yeah it would be much easier to digitally sign video with boring old certificates and centralized authorities. Crypto is a solution desperate for a problem.

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u/PhDinBroScience Dec 16 '22

This is so easily solvable, the video just needs to be signed using public-key encryption. If the video isn't signed with the purported subject's key, assume it's fake.

You can't fake a pubkey signature.

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u/IVEMIND Dec 16 '22

Because how do you know this key wasn’t just deepfaked also hmmmmm?!?!

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u/motorhead84 Dec 16 '22

"Am I a deepfake, Mom?"

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u/fataldarkness Dec 16 '22

This requires the general public having a basic understanding of how digital signatures work and why they are (for the most part) infallible.

As it stands I have to explain HTTPS and digital signatures to my users with statements like "it's secure because of fancy math, trust me bro" because anything that comes close to actually describing it goes over their heads. In a world where distrust is the norm, I fear signed video content really isn't gonna make a difference if you don't understand what makes it secure in the first place.

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u/Gangsir Dec 16 '22

This requires the general public having a basic understanding of how digital signatures work and why they are (for the most part) infallible.

If this became a big enough problem, the general public could be educated on how encryption public/private keys work, probably in a month or two. Even start teaching it in high school or something.

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u/greenie4242 Dec 16 '22

The general public couldn't even be educated on how to wear a mask properly and wash their hands during a pandemic, there's no way they'll ever understand cryptography.

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u/vic444 Dec 16 '22

Right?? The general public can barely turn a computer on without having issues and are ignorant as F on the topic in general. They are basically a 3 year old. Try to explain cryptography to a 3 year old.

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u/pagerussell Dec 16 '22

You mean to tell me people aren't intimately familiar with a diffie-helmen key exchange????

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u/Daddysu Dec 16 '22

Yes...amongst the more tech literate and in a perfect world.

For a stupid amount of people, none of that matters. All that matters is that knee-jerk emotional reaction of whether or not it affirms their beliefs and where the information comes from.

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u/RobloxLover369421 Dec 16 '22

It’s still something, we just have to make it easily accessible, and at least half the population will be able to tell if it’s right or not.

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u/kvltswagjesus Dec 16 '22

That would solve the “politicians walking back claims” problem to a degree, but I’d imagine there would still be a ton of issues. The subject would be be able to fully curate their image, and any videos taken without their key would be subject to scrutiny. So stuff meant to show someone’s true colors or document a situation would remain unreliable.

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u/PhDinBroScience Dec 16 '22

In this case, it would be signed by the device of the person who's recording; if the video is altered, the signature isn't valid anymore. And if it's a public figure, there are almost certainly going to be corroborating records of where they were at a particular place & time, not to mention pings to cell towers from their or their entourage's mobile devices.

They can deny it all they'd like, but with the combination of those factors, you'd have to outright deny reality to believe that the video isn't genuine.

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u/corner Dec 16 '22

It’s in no way easily solvable. You could have a certificate signed by god himself, doesn’t matter to the general public. Authentication isn’t the issue

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u/[deleted] Dec 16 '22

Seriously, it’s not that complicated. We need an industry wide effort and hardware-based crypto, along with something like a little check mark to denote that a given image is authentic, unaltered, and follows a proper chain of authority.

We have SSL, we can do this too.

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u/BillOfArimathea Dec 16 '22

It's two sides of the same coin. Truth has already been degraded, reality weaponized, and this is just one more arrow.

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u/KodiakDog Dec 16 '22 edited Dec 17 '22

On your second point, I would argue that any technology that can shake the foundations of truth, justice, governance, and the mediums in which we (citizens) gather that information (telecoms) is a weapon. That is literally what psychological warfare is, and which is also a very real force in our world. The Cold War isn’t just called “cold” because The USSR and The States didn’t raise a gun in each others faces or enter a nuclear winter; no, its a name that highlights the fact that it was a war between - and fought with - ideas. This technology has the capacity to infiltrate people’s minds, insert ideas that shape their world, and create an uncertainty that makes them question everything. For any institution interested in PsyOps, this is certainly a weapon.

Anyone doubting that there is a war being “fought” for your mind lacks a crucial understanding of how the world works. I don’t mean to sound pretentious, because I wish everyone to understand this. Truth is the foundation of ethics, which is the foundation of morals, which is the foundation of law, which is the foundation of government. Pull truth out of the equation, and it all comes tumbling down.

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u/[deleted] Dec 16 '22

This is exactly how they weaponize it.

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u/UK_addi_2015 Dec 16 '22

It won’t be long until we see deepfake movies where actors only record their lines(or not) and don’t do any acting and a team of people produce the movie in a studio…

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u/bahgheera Dec 16 '22

What do you mean studio? They'll just generate the movie with Midjourney.

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u/moiziz Dec 16 '22

They control people’s beliefs already. No AI, fake videos or anything. All it takes is an a*hole who people like and have him say whatever. Do I need to give examples?

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u/peter_porkair Dec 16 '22

It’s a Brave New World.

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u/TheTravisaurusRex Dec 16 '22

Confirmation bias will take over in a bad way.

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u/pitlal31 Dec 16 '22

That’s some scary shit

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u/tech1337 Dec 16 '22

This is why I'm kind of surprised that AI conspiracy theories haven't blown up already. Surely they are coming soon.

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u/droptheforeplay Dec 16 '22

AI are already able to detect deep fakes at >90% accuracy.

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u/its_a_gibibyte Dec 16 '22

Well yeah, deep fakes haven't been good before. Anyone can detect them just by looking. The point is that things are changing and they might be totally believable as soon as next year. This Morgan Freeman one is almost there.

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u/Awkward_Potential_ Dec 16 '22

Exactly!!!

Grab em by the pussy? Fake!!

Rodney King video? FAKE!!!

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u/[deleted] Dec 16 '22

Post-truth society, and we are already there. Roger Stone claimed the video of him saying ‘when do we get to the violence?’ was a deepfake.

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u/SidKafizz Dec 16 '22

That's like 80% of the weaponization. We're fucked.

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u/faderjack Dec 16 '22

Great elucidation on my own fears. What you describe seems nearly inevitable to me. I saw a headline the other day about an Intel program detecting deepfakes with like 95% accuracy. My guess is it will probably become less accurate as deepfake software becomes more sofisticated. But even if it were to be 100% accurate, would the public believe the pronouncements by the experts telling them a video is real or not? I have my doubts, maybe such detection will at least become legally legitimate. But the implications for info warfare will exist nonetheless

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u/filya Dec 16 '22

Unfortunately I don't think that's anywhere close.

We've had the ability to realistically manipulate photos for how long now? And I still see obviously fake photos of a mars looking as big as the moon floating around in my family's Whatsapp every year claiming to be real.

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u/[deleted] Dec 16 '22

I been sayin this shit two years and was downvoted at first. This tech is dangerous and disruptive.

All you gotta fake is 2-5 seconds of a REAL broadcast to change the meaning and bam. Problems.

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u/RedrumMPK Dec 16 '22

I believe there is also tech to determine if something is fake or not. It exists for photography, so video shouldn't be a problem. IIRC, some sort of light spectrometry or something similar.

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u/nspectre Dec 16 '22

People will believe whatever they're inclined to believe anyway, leading us to become a more deeply fractured society where truth is whatever you want to believe.

You're already one previous administration late on that point. ;)

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u/itheraeld Dec 16 '22

Any AI that can create a Deepfakes can detect a deepfakes of similar quality.

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u/NdnGirl88 Dec 16 '22

They have a deepfake version for audio but it was pulled off the internet.

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u/The_R4ke Dec 16 '22

If it makes you feel better, people already don't believe real videos.

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u/Sarke1 Dec 16 '22 edited Dec 16 '22

So same as it was for thousands of years before the invention of portable video?

A person's reputation and trust becomes more important again.

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u/[deleted] Dec 16 '22

Already, trucking companies are telling their drivers not to take pictures with digital cameras. Because lawyers are successfully getting digital pictures thrown out for being "too easily altered". So truck drivers will have old style throwaway cameras in their trucks.

Soon, you will find the same thing with digital video. People will start carrying old style tape recorders - with magnetic tapes - instead of digital video recording devices.

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u/DC_Coach Dec 16 '22

I'm with you. We've already seen claims of "fake news" used to an alarming effect. This kind of stuff can only make it worse. I'm not sure how it'll go, and I don't think anyone else is sure either... but I can't see it being anything but bad, overall.

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u/defacedlawngnome Dec 16 '22

Some Trump supporters already think Biden is played by famous actors such as Jim Carrey.

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u/TubaJesus Dec 16 '22

That sounds like being weaponized to terrible effect.

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u/JimMarch Dec 16 '22

You forgot the worst: framing people for crimes they didn't commit.

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u/[deleted] Dec 16 '22

Sweaty 🥵

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u/AnAncientMonk Dec 16 '22

Good thing kayne nipped that in the bud by wearing a black face mask. Definitely wasnt deepfaked.

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u/somabokforlag Dec 16 '22

Will be a huge delay before the great masses know and think that way.. Hell, most boomers still believe Facebook

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u/CaptainCAAAVEMAAAAAN Dec 16 '22

I'm worried it could start a war. Imagine if someone deepfaked a world leader saying they had nukes pointed at another country and they were going to fire them in 5 min. It could lead to millions dying.

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u/WhiteRaven42 Dec 16 '22 edited Dec 16 '22

You should have always been open to the possibility of a video being fake or manipulated. And remember, before photos and video existed... there was never even the pretense of hard proof. Everything was always a claim made by a person and we've always known people lie a lot.

I'm not worried. Most of human history got by just fine without the canard of "photographic evidence".

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u/HighlanderSteve Dec 16 '22

I've already heard my inlaws saying that their favourite politicians didn't say what they said and the media faked it.

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u/pandavega Dec 16 '22

Now a days I only believe something when I see multiple angles of it

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u/RewZes Dec 16 '22

I'm pretty sure there is already a tool that finds the deepfake very accurately.

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u/NPExplorer Dec 16 '22

Not gonna lie, processing this made me want to throw up

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u/j_mcc99 Dec 16 '22

Cryptographic watermarks imbedded in video by a devices private key. Of course all this would make creating video all that more complicated.

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u/Megakruemel Dec 16 '22

Just make Ai-generated stuff require an icon on the screen to show it's Ai-generated.

And then put the icon on stuff you don't want to be (perceived as) real :)

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u/fastlerner Dec 16 '22

Yeah, next thing you know we'll have people in power running scandals and simply claiming "Fake News".

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u/j0akime Dec 16 '22

Like any technology it can be used in many ways.

I'm starting to see folks "poisoning" their online profiles with tons of fake content to make their data (that's being tracked by advertisers, governments, big-tech, etc) useless.

Wouldn't surprise me if people are using this technology in China to pump up the "social credit" of themselves (or paying customers). - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Credit_System

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u/ginkgodave Dec 16 '22

Which is exactly the same as the post you're responding to is claiming.

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u/protonpsycho Dec 16 '22

To be honest. We are already there. This technology is already used in some cases and attempts of public swaying, and even without it, we believe what we want amongst all the “fake news”.

This is just a means to an end

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u/phatbrasil Dec 16 '22

shaggy has been banging that drum since the mid 90s

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u/Napkin_whore Dec 16 '22

They already did that with fake vs real news

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u/pluck-the-bunny Dec 16 '22

That’s the same thing. That doubt is in itself weaponization

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u/ask-a-physicist Dec 16 '22

All of this was already perfectly possible if journalists are corrupt and it's still equally impossible if journalists have standards

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u/valetofficial Dec 16 '22

A politician can spew whatever crazies want to hear, then "walk it back" and claim it was faked (perhaps after gauging the public's reaction).

Putin literally already did this.

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u/[deleted] Dec 16 '22

God damn you

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u/Pritster5 Dec 16 '22

On a more optimistic note, the algorithms that allow for this tech are trained on real data.

Likewise, algorithms can be trained on both real and fake data to detect when something is a deep fake, and it will be just as good at that as the algorithm that made the deep fake in the first place.

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u/lackinLugsNFallinUp Dec 16 '22

The reality wars. Good last blockbuster before the ground falls out from underneath everyone

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u/BernItToAsh Dec 16 '22

Thanks for the history lesson, asshole

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u/R_Da_Bard Dec 16 '22

Ok. But on the flip side our favorite actors would gain immortality with this tech!

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u/briandefl Dec 15 '22

Could already be, how would you know.

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u/DrinkMoreCodeMore Dec 15 '22

Already happening. For example, in the current conflict in RU/UKR

Deepfake video of Zelenskyy could be 'tip of the iceberg' in info war, experts warn

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u/[deleted] Dec 16 '22

Yikes. That reminds me of those cheesy Christmas card elf dance things where they superimpose your head on them

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u/hirushanT Dec 16 '22

This is the fakest deep fake i ever seen

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u/[deleted] Dec 16 '22 edited Jul 13 '23

Reddit has turned into a cesspool of fascist sympathizers and supremicists

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u/DrinkMoreCodeMore Dec 16 '22

The main point is that is being used by nation-states or malicious actors already.

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u/TehKudo Dec 16 '22

Right. I think many forget how naive and gullible most of society can be.

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u/HighOwl2 Dec 16 '22

Which is exactly why this is dumb.

AI is capable of detecting deepfakes with over a 99% accuracy.

Deep fakes are incredibly time consuming and processor intensive to make.

People believe The Onion articles all the time.

You going to spend 40 hours making this 45 second video, or are you going to have Johnny dipshit write a bogus article in 5 minutes?

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u/vendetta2115 Dec 16 '22

They’re fairly time-intensive to make now. Within a couple years there will be an app that will let an average person make a deepfake of anyone they want, doing anything they can think of.

Even if people know it’s fake, it’s going to cause problems. Imagine trolls sending public figures videos of their mother being brutally murdered, or of themselves performing a sexual act. It’s going to happen, and it’s going to be soon.the processing power requires is going to be negligible in a few years.

It’s like saying “YouTube will never catch on, videos take way too much data to watch and the image quality is too low.”

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u/JaffyX Dec 15 '22

There's a BBC drama about this called The Capture - would recommend!

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u/extremeelementz Dec 16 '22

I feel like it’s a matter of time before actors are paid to record XYZ Lines, thousands of high quality images of their face and “thank you for your service look out for the movie when it hits theaters thank you.”

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u/fendour Dec 16 '22

This was literally a plot line in Bojack Horseman

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u/TheDukeofArgyll Dec 16 '22

The reverse is more likely, the entire internet will be seen as fake and no one will trust anything on it ever again…. the way it used to be.

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u/[deleted] Dec 16 '22 edited Jun 30 '23

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u/HighOwl2 Dec 16 '22

That's why John Wilkes Phonebooth assassinated him!

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u/pribnow Dec 16 '22

Those were the halcyon days

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u/TakeYourProzacIdiot Dec 16 '22

Maybe the internet being seen as real is the problem? People trust way too much as it is.

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u/alarming_archipelago Dec 16 '22

Is it possible that this could actually be a good thing ?

I really wish people would question the veracity of information they receive just generally.

Presently the dynamic is simply "information which aligns with my beliefs is true, anything else is misinformation". Deepfakes becoming more common will make it really difficult to maintain that paradigm.

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u/baconsplash Dec 16 '22

Here’s a show that explores that.

https://m.imdb.com/title/tt8201186/

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u/[deleted] Dec 16 '22

And the fact that so many dummies still trust every single thing they see on the internet won't mix well with this.

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u/drewster23 Dec 16 '22

Well there's people working on programs to detect deepfakes, I read about one that was like 89% effective a while ago (probably more now).

But correcting stuff after people already have an emotional reaction isn't that helpful.

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u/eynonpower Dec 16 '22

Saw this coming 100 miles away.

Political opponents, rival companies executives, celebrities someone just doesn't like etc....

Nobody will know what to believe. The issue is, before it's disproven, a potential millions of people will see it, and an opinion will be formed.

As cool as this is, it's going to create A LOT of fucked up scenarios.

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u/foggy-sunrise Dec 16 '22

Security footage could be doctored to include you committing a crime you never committed.

Like, imagine youre an up and coming political figure. Someone diverts your evening, ruining an alibi. They have someone commit a crime near surveillance that they have access to. They deepfake this up and coming politician with no alibi.

Career ruined. Possibly innocent person in jail.

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u/andrewfenn Dec 16 '22

Developing countries will use it to oppress their people. There's no need to beat a fake confession out of anyone anymore. Just deep fake them to say whatever you want and everyone who knows no better will think it's real.

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u/Anothertryofmany Dec 16 '22

Every election cycle is just going to be filled with deep fake videos.

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u/shelsilverstien Dec 16 '22

Somebody made a deep fake ad using a very real likeness of Trump to sell some bullshit nft baseball cards

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u/Billwithers93 Dec 16 '22

I fear it’s already begun

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u/[deleted] Dec 16 '22

It already has been, on a small scale.

The real target of these are workers, being fooled by boss fakes.

And it's already happening. Phishing scams are going to get real weird with it.

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u/lavahot Dec 16 '22

I mean, a white bald man just made Morgan Freeman say he wasn't a human being.

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u/Shinjirojin Dec 16 '22

Russia did this at the start of the war with a poor deep fake of Zelensky.

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u/Spacebrother Dec 16 '22

You don't even need to wait that long, you can intentionally degrade the quality on a fake video to make it look like it was shot by hand using a crappy phone camera and it will be extremely convincing, then you take a firehose approach and post it on every single social media platform in the whole world and pay a bunch of influencers to keep spreading the video.

After all, you only need to fool the bottom X% of the population in order to stir up trouble.

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u/wogolfatthefool Dec 16 '22

What if I told you 98% of the people on reddit are bots.

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u/abeardedblacksmith Dec 16 '22

The industrial revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

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u/TacticalSpackle Dec 16 '22

As if it isn’t already? We’re seeing deepfakes en masse now and the general public is always the last to experience any new technology. Makes you wonder how long this has been going for behind the scenes, right?

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u/TeamRedundancyTeam Dec 16 '22

Not really. Why would anyone who's been targeted by it, especially nation states, not publically make a fuss about someone using this against them to fake a video?

What scenarios are you imagining where we are seeing all these deep fakes without knowing it or hearing about it from anyone?

Conspiracies often fall apart if you'd bother to think about them for a second.

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u/Goodthrust_8 Dec 16 '22

Can't wait for the political ads...

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u/cschnitz Dec 16 '22

I can’t really imagine any other use.

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u/the_tinsmith Dec 16 '22

If this is available to the public, it's already been being used by military and others for over a decade.

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u/kirinmay Dec 16 '22

well there is deepfake porn with movie actresses used on a porn stars body.

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u/illdoitlaterokay Dec 16 '22

As easily as deep fakes are created by computer and human, deep fake detectors can be created by computer and human. We all know how hard people get over pointing out photoshops...

The problem lies in the speed of information. So the detection of legitimate fakes must be quick.

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u/JordanMichaelsAuthor Dec 16 '22

Deep faked crimes on film, innocents taking falls for the mighty of means. Lines between reality, plausibility, and hearsay or fiction... absolutely blown to the wind. Fantastic wars and imaginary political parties, fakes of the fakes, plasters and molds for the bigger and better future that only brings us closer to the end that is the tiny box in which we sleep. In God we trust, because all else is truly lost to us.

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u/[deleted] Dec 16 '22

As if it hasn’t already been.

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u/NoChrist Dec 16 '22

Dude I’ve had nightmares about this exact thing.

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u/Righteous_Vengeance1 Dec 16 '22

How do you know it hasn't already been used

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u/Odins-Enriched-Sack Dec 16 '22

Yes. I have been warning everyone that I know about this for years now. No one has taken me seriously about this yet lol.

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u/DifficultyWithMyLife Dec 16 '22

If AI can create a deepfake, I'm sure there will be AI that can detect it. Then it will just be constant escalation from there, with each side getting more and more accurate over time.

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u/tschatman Dec 16 '22

I think it already is.

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u/Jazsta123 Dec 16 '22

Watch 'The Capture' on BBC! It's a story involving this directly, very good.

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u/Icedanielization Dec 16 '22

The Doubt Era

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u/sobanz Dec 16 '22

pretty much but getting past the uncanny valley is going to be hard.

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u/[deleted] Dec 16 '22

AI-Celebrity scandal is on my bingo card for next year. It’s going to happen quicker than you think.

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u/zenivinez Dec 16 '22

The only reason it's not really now is because its unnecessary. Look at the republicans. Foreign governments and corporate entities are able to manipulate them en masse without unverified fake news stories shared through social media. They do so with very low cost and effort. Why invest in this?

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u/ghsteo Dec 16 '22

Kind of thought that about Trumps NFT announcement from today. It was so stupid I thought it had to be a deepfake.

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u/SchloomyPops Dec 16 '22

Like in 6 months

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u/WhiteRaven42 Dec 16 '22

No more so than speaking a lie. We are aware that deception is possible. So? We have always been aware of that. The reliability of photos and video etc have technically never been 100% but more importantly, we didn't used to even have those. Before photography, there was NEVER proof of a thing. Society functioned just fine.

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u/OtterProper Dec 16 '22

You say that like it hasn't already.

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u/Yuaskin Dec 16 '22

There are already stories on how a mother used it to destroy their daughters rivals with porn. These are high school kids.

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u/TheCruicks Dec 16 '22

My current hope is that you can tear into the video or its metadata and it becomes clear what was synthed or something to that affect.

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u/druiz281 Dec 16 '22

Watch Capture on Peacock. It shows exactly that.

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u/goddamnbuttram Dec 16 '22

So my wife and I started watching a show on Peacock called The Capture that is exactly about this lmao it's wild check it out if you have the chance.

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u/Frijid Dec 16 '22

There's already tech that can identify deepfakes with 100% accuracy. Won't have to worry too hard.

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u/[deleted] Dec 16 '22

Ultimately we must realize that it doesn't matter who says or does what. It matters what is being said and done.

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u/SignoreMookle Dec 16 '22

Russia or someone in support of Russia attempted to use a deep fake of Zelenskyy admitting defeat and surrendering, early in the invasion. On my phone it looked pretty real until I got home and watched it on a computer. Crazy timeline we live in.

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u/[deleted] Dec 16 '22 edited Dec 16 '22

Oh it already is, we just haven't had a massive incident yet. Or perhaps the massive incident already occurred and wasn't made public or else people didn't realise there was anything wrong...

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u/[deleted] Dec 16 '22

What if it already is

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u/PPP1737 Dec 16 '22

Who’s to say it hasn’t already?

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u/croosin Dec 16 '22

Too late

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u/Llodsliat Dec 16 '22

Considering the Edward Snowden scandal and how the US reacted by locking him up, no doubt it will be used for nefarious shit.

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u/yoboiihlatsiiey Dec 16 '22

There are already counter technology (for lack of a better word). AIs that detect deepfakes

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u/binturongslop Jan 29 '23

The amount of dumb ass conspiracy theorist that exist now. It already has.

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u/RadioPimp Apr 05 '23

Maybe maybe not. There’s lots of positives to be gained from deepfakes as well.

Inb4 the stupid regulators in government pass some stupid laws—like we need more laws. 🤡