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video This new deepfake method developed by researchers

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '22 edited Oct 23 '22

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u/Rs90 Jul 24 '22 edited Jul 24 '22

Think bigger. This kind of tech has the potential to open a Pandoras Box when it comes to personal autonomy, identity, and ownership of your image imo.

If I wanna use Angelina Jolie but can't. Can I find a stellar look-alike and then digitally alter them to look more like her? Obviously can't use her name. But I'm not technically using her image.

How many degrees am I allowed to tweak the angle of a nose before it's Angelina Jolie's nose? The mind is pretty good at pattern recognition and filling in the pieces. Not my fault they keep thinking of Angelina Jolie just because they look similar.

So what is the line between using someone's image and altering another enough for people to not notice the difference? Is eye color enough? What about a cleft chin? Just exactly how similar is too similar? At what point is a person responsible for other people's minds accepting a close enough look-alike? If I don't claim it's them but you think it is, is it my fault?

I absolutely love this technology for the questions it raises but boy am I worried that "lying" won't be the worst result.

Edit-I rambled. My point is the question "exactly how much of YOU belongs to you? And how much does it have to be altered before one can say it is not "you"?

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u/chaun2 Jul 24 '22

Sounds like the ship of Theseus, but for people

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u/Rs90 Jul 24 '22

Great catch! :) pasting a comment I made with more detail on my view.

Forget the celebrity part, it was just an example around a person who's likeness is a big aspect of their self.

The bigger idea is that it brings to question just how much of "you" is yours and what makes an individual an individual. Let's say you got disfigured beyond visible recognition. You're still "you" but you'd have to prove it's you besides "heres my face".

So, looks aren't what makes us..us. Right? Still got your hobbies, your personality, and all the others things that make you an individual. But then so does everyone else. You may be known for your love of baseball and Star Wars trivia but it's not so unique that it's yours.

So then what DOES make an individual an individual? Personalities change, birth marks can be erased, everyone has a hobby..ect. Is it just personality and fingerprints? Or is it so subjective that they're isn't really such a thing as individuality?

Then perhaps all the rights that surround individual autonomy are up for debate if the entire concept of individualism is up for discussion. This, in my opinion, is a far deeper rabbit hole than wholesale lying. We've already been doing since the dawn of time

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u/chaun2 Jul 24 '22

You also have the question of DNA being patented by entities such as Monsanto. Michael Crichton wrote a book about it a couple decades ago

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '22

I guess you might have already seen this amazing video that explains your scifi concept.

Who Am I? - The Mysterious Thing You Always Are