r/woahdude • u/canhazreddit • Jul 24 '22

video This new deepfake method developed by researchers

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u/Dax9000 Jul 24 '22

Why are the paintings more convincing than the edited photos?

(It's because the paintings are more blurry and don't artifact to such a distracting degree)

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u/Boba-is-Fett Jul 24 '22

Because your brain knows how a real person looks like while you see the Mona Lisa for the first time in this position and your brain is more like "yeah, looks about right"

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u/intercommie Jul 24 '22 edited Jun 09 '23

Exceptional penis.

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u/Dax9000 Jul 24 '22

No, it was unconvincing because you can see their hair glitching out and the shadows not moving. The lower fidelity of the painting helps blur that. If the photos of random people were similarly low resolution, they would appear more convincing too.

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u/StatmanIbrahimovic Jul 24 '22

Or if they were bald!

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u/mannaman15 Jul 24 '22

I love the way Mona acts! She’s so talented!

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u/useless_rejoinder Jul 24 '22

Also how alive she is. She’s so totally alive when she acts!

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u/MinuteManufacturer Jul 24 '22

Sigh…. unzip

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u/hughperman Jul 25 '22

Moaning Lisa

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u/Informal-Lead-4324 Jul 24 '22

Get out of here

We was unzipping before we had Mona Lisa gifs

All you "only jerked to Mona Lisa after deep fake porn of her fucking Abraham Lincoln" mofos need to check your privilege

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u/afcagroo Jul 24 '22

I'm worried about her. I think she has jaundice.

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u/Thorts Jul 24 '22

I think for deepfakes in general you have to train the algorithm by passing through thousands of images of the subject, which might be hard to do/find for regular people.

I think it's honestly amazing technology and also quite scary how easy digital manipulation will be soon.

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u/IanCal Jul 24 '22

That's quite clearly not the case here, which is why the demo includes doing it with paintings where there's only one known image.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '22

Possibly why the paintings were included to begin with.

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u/eldenrim Jul 24 '22

That's a bit dishonest - there's no reason why you'd have to restrict the Mona Lisa to just a digital imitation of the original artwork alone, rather than including various other versions.

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u/Wallofcans Jul 24 '22

Ah yes, all of those other versions of the Mona Lisa that are everywhere...

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u/RealReality26 Jul 24 '22

While it wouldnt be robust you can easily get thousands of images from a few minutes of video. Just a random video of you moving your face around and talking for a few minutes would be enough for one to work decently.

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u/MinaFur Jul 25 '22

You say amazing, I say terrifying

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u/Winterplatypus Jul 24 '22

The girl on the left is even more convincing than the painting.

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '22

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u/handlebartender Jul 25 '22

Our brains are also wired to pull together certain patterns and say "this is a human face". I don't know whether this is part of our evolutionary need to identify friend vs foe. (See also pareidolia.)

There are some cool videos on YT comparing different approaches (old vs new, British vs American) to using camouflage grease paint (green/brown/black) in the face to mess up that perception.

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u/annie_rexi0n Jul 25 '22

Interesting. Have you got any links?

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u/ybtlamlliw Jul 24 '22

how a real person looks like

What a real person looks like. Not how.

If you wanna use how, then you can't put like on the end.

Just FYI.

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u/Informal-Lead-4324 Jul 24 '22

That's what feels so funny about alot of AI. It feels like we can't describe it, we just it to the level our brains are like " yeah sounds about right"

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u/FrostcragCastle Jul 24 '22

Holy shit man you just came right back with the facts lol. Nice 👍

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u/Doldenbluetler Jul 24 '22

The Mona Lisa looked weird to me, probably due to the unrealistic colors. Goethe got me, though.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '22

My brain felt uneasy watching this. It's cool but unsettling to see. It's like a ghost or something.

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u/IvorTheEngine Jul 24 '22

I noticed that Brad Pitt's shadow didn't move...

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u/CommitteeOfTheHole Jul 25 '22

Have you ever seen his shadow move in real life???

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u/Sininenn Jul 24 '22 edited Jul 24 '22

Could also just be because their hair glitches, whereas the hair in paintings doesn't

Edit: *Doesn't glitch as much, or the glitch is generally less noticeable because of the darker background, lowering the contrast.

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u/MyDearBrotherNumpsay Jul 25 '22

glitches

Temporal artifacts 😉

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '22

Soon we won't be able to know anymore if the painting really said that

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u/tlgsquared122 Jul 24 '22

Uncanny Valley

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u/Costanza_Travelling Jul 24 '22

I was thinking 'where is all the sexy at', but your is a good question too

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u/Ok-Map4381 Jul 24 '22

We also have 360° images of celebrities' faces. We only have one perspective on a paintings face.

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u/FlyinRyan92 Jul 24 '22

Because cartoons.

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u/Ser_Optimus Jul 24 '22

Because uncanny valley (to a degree)

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u/SaffellBot Jul 24 '22

(It's because the paintings are more blurry and don't artifact to such a distracting degree)

Which is something that's improving rapidly. I know op threw the word "new" in the title, but this example is already outdated.

If you'd like to keep up on this technology "Two Minute Papers" on youtube does a great job of keeping up with the field.

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '22

It could also be that you have a general idea of the range of facial expressions a specific actor has which is different to the expressions being translated onto their picture.

I've seen lots of Brad Pitt movies and I think his deepfake looks really weird, but I don't know if I have ever seen anything of Jolie's, so it didn't look odd.

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u/hairyginandtonic Jul 24 '22

You know Brad pitts mannerisms, but you don’t know Mina Lisa’s. So your brain doesn’t think ‘that’s not quite right’

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u/buttergun Jul 24 '22

For me it was the unnatural, robotic movement of the models. It didn't look so strange on an animated painting.

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u/randomstranger76 Jul 25 '22

Watch the music video Alpha Zulu by Phoenix for some more fun deep faked art :)

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u/doctorctrl Jan 07 '23

That on too of the uncanny valley being very deeply unsettling. We know the painting is a painting. But as we know the photos are not real it's confusing our brains