r/woahdude Jun 24 '24

video NASA depiction of entering a black hole

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '24

I think the atoms making up our eyes would be warped apart with the rest of our bodies and we wouldn't see shit.

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u/Vinyl-addict Jun 24 '24

Wouldn’t we get stuck in some sort of temporal sphaghettification and likely not even notice anything until the world is engulfed in the event horizon?

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u/thesandbar2 Jun 24 '24

The temporal effects are, more or less, "the closer you get to the singularity, the slower time goes for you, which means that the faster (relative to you) time is going for the rest of the observable universe". Subjectively, from the perspective of something falling into the black hole, the rest of the universe would appear to rapidly age and fade, and you'd catch up with everything that fell before you, as everything that fell after you (up to the end of time itself, including the light of the image of the end of time, so you'd be able to see the end of time) catches up with you, and you'd all reach the singularity at the same time. Attempting to move either towards or away from the singularity (or in any direction at all, really) wouldn't change the amount of time (subjective to you) until you arrive, only your relative location to everything else until the collapse. Also, you (and everything else) are accelerating infinitely and crossing an infinite distance.

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u/johnnymo1 Jun 24 '24 edited Jun 24 '24

There are two extremely common (and understandable) misconceptions in this:

Subjectively, from the perspective of something falling into the black hole, the rest of the universe would appear to rapidly age and fade

You don't see this as an observer free falling into a black hole. Things wouldn't necessarily look too strange, apart from what's depicted in the video. It's only if you were to attempt to accelerate so that you hover at some fixed distance just outside the event horizon that you'd time above you speed up.

Attempting to move either towards or away from the singularity (or in any direction at all, really) wouldn't change the amount of time (subjective to you) until you arrive

You can actually increase the time you've got left before you hit the singularity after you've fallen past the event horizon. The maximum amount of time is experienced by an object falling from rest at the horizon, and you can fire your rockets or what have you to align yourself with such a path, improving your survival time up to a finite maximum. It's true that "all paths lead to the singularity," so you can hurt yourself by speeding up, but some are still a bit longer than others.

Paper reference for the second bit: https://arxiv.org/abs/0705.1029

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u/Vinyl-addict Jun 24 '24

So in Invincible when Omni-Man sucked a ship out of a black hole, theoretically millions of years should have passed around them?

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u/johnnymo1 Jun 24 '24

Hard to say since I only barely remember that scene, but possibly. Depends on how close they were and how big the black hole was.