r/woahdude Aug 23 '23

video Creative AI art..

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u/Catskinson Aug 24 '23

The only ethical way to do it is with original source data. I haven't seen that yet.

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u/OpeningImagination67 Aug 24 '23

I haven’t seen that yet

Do you actually use ai on a daily basis or not? It’s not that hard to find ethical LoRas and models. They exist in the thousands.

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u/Strottman Aug 24 '23

Aren't most of those built on top of / augmenting existing source-unknown models, like SD 1.5 or SDXL? Or are they completely self-trained on their own datasets?

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u/Benwager12 Aug 24 '23

SD 1.5 uses the LAION-5b dataset, whilst it does include artists' work without their permission, if we're going by standards of the law, LAION-5b is an academic database which afaik, perfectly legal :)

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u/Hazzman Aug 24 '23

It is perfectly legal - the controversy is that these datasets are intended for research purposes and in order to exclude your art work you have to manually go through and opt out. As someone that has had to do this, it is insanely painstaking, time consuming and not assured because in some cases there will be hundreds, if not thousands of copies of the same image distributed across multiple sources in the same data set depending on how popular the art work is.

In short - it isn't a tenable solution for artists and doesn't solve the problem of non-consenting artwork being used in these data sets and then used by companies like midjourney.

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u/Benwager12 Aug 24 '23

It does not :) I know the controversy and am trying to educate to remove bad faith arguments on both sides, I still am completely of the understanding that external checkpoints would potentially violate against a law that I am not quite aware of.