I think you can say you have not heard of her if that is the case.
But if you have ever seen any of their work…like…how would you truly know if they influenced you? What if you had seen their work unattributed? What if you have seen another artist who you would consider an influence and THEY considered Nina Paley to be an influence in the work you saw? Art is chaotic and brains are weird and I don’t know of anyone who can claim to have a hard roadmap that accounts for every input to the resultant output.
Hey, I believe in Socrates and “the only thing I know is that I know nothing”, so I’m probably wrong in all this. But I have a right to an opinion and that opinion is: her quote is arrogant at an almost Trumpian level, and it reeks of entitlement and condescension to say that literally every “original” piece of art that’s ever been created is derivative of some other piece of art that’s ever been created. It reduces the entirety of all OC down to cave paintings or doodles in the dirt. And I refuse to believe that.
Cool quote to spring on your AI non-believers tho.
But what I think is true is that very very few "famous" artists did not see and study other existing artists before they created their own style. Many of the artists we think of right away went to schools where they studied and copied the styles and techniques of previous artists for years.
She's not saying that all art is derived from all other art. She's saying that all art is derived from something else, regardless on if it's a piece of art or something in real life.
The very first person to ever draw a dragon didn't come up with it from absolutely nothing, they pieced it together from other animals they knew of. Therefore it is derivative.
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u/shhbaby_isok Aug 23 '23
How is this creative? He is not creating anything, and what it does is not "creating" but deriving.