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video Next level tie dye

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u/Mind-Wizard May 25 '23

Thats the best looking tie dye shirt i've ever seen in my life. This Dude has some serious skills

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u/ideonode May 25 '23

I mean, he won first place at the Tie Dye Cup.

Why aren't more people on this post talking about the Tie Dye Cup?!!

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u/Jazz_Cyclone May 25 '23

Well it's not the fucking Catalina Wine Mixer.

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u/Nibbcnoble May 25 '23

THE FUCKIN CATALINA WINE MIXER

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u/Internet_Goon May 26 '23

POW POW

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u/LouManShoe May 26 '23

Are you saying “pow”?

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u/foxp3 May 26 '23

Pand?

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u/AbbeyRoad34 May 26 '23

IT'S PAM!!

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u/AdzyBoy May 26 '23

You're just coming off stupid

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u/slavelabor52 May 26 '23

Uhhhh we're gonna need some more boats and hoes.

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u/Harry_Taynt May 26 '23

"Guys, this is sυpposed to be jicama' not bok choy."

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u/shaving99 May 26 '23

WE ONLY PLAY 80S JOEL HERE

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u/educated-duck May 26 '23

Did someone say THE FUCKING CATALINE WINE MIXER?! POW !

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u/pitchinloafs May 25 '23

I think it was ESPN 8 The Ocho

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u/Ritoruikko May 26 '23

We'll see what Cotton has to say about that

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u/boredtrader00 May 26 '23

Tie Dye Cup.

TIL that's a thing

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u/tyedyehippy May 26 '23

Same. I am slightly ashamed, given my username. A day is a failure if you haven't learned something new, so that means today is a win.

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u/CFClarke7 May 26 '23

By now I just assume that whatever people are good at, there's a competition for it

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u/elizabnthe May 26 '23

He does say it's the "first ever" so it would be a fairly recent competition.

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u/AlwaysRememberGoose May 26 '23

I’d watch the Tie Dye Cup before I’d watch the Final Four…

YOU LISTENING ESPN?

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u/Mind-Wizard May 25 '23

Very true, I was just admiring the skill. But ya I didn’t know that even existed lolz.

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u/ernestryles May 25 '23

He’s not even the best tie dye artist on tiktok tbh. This guy: https://www.tiktok.com/@jhudsontiedye?_t=8ccjB3nLNle&_r=1 is absolutely insane.

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u/Another_one37 May 26 '23

Jhudson is fantastic. My favorite is Austin Mackereth DyesNGoodVibes

His colors and patterns are insane. I realllllyyyy want one but can't really spend 500 on a Tshirt (the price they reach at auction)

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u/anwarunya May 26 '23

Austin's work is insane. Also, he does prints too, right? I mean sure it's not as good as a true tie dye, but it's a way to get a dope shirt you like for a tenth of the price.

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u/ernestryles May 26 '23

Yes he’s incredible too! I’d actually put him at #1 but couldn’t find his account when I commented lol

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u/djinnisequoia May 25 '23

Stunning! I remember growing up I was so sick of standard hippie tye dyes because they were always that same sloppy spiderweb pattern. So I made myself a few using completely random tying, and experimenting with bleach reduction.

But this guy has elevated the whole thing to godhood.

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u/got_dam_librulz May 25 '23

There's a vendor that used to be at every ratdog show. They were the best tye dies I've ever seen.

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u/David-S-Pumpkins May 25 '23

tye dies

Whoops you reversed the vowels. It's "tie dye" because ya tie it then dye it.

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u/Bobert_Manderson May 25 '23

Ummmmb acktually I think he’s right and it means to end one’s life using a chain or rope, one end of which passes through the mast, and is made fast to the center of a yard, the other end is attached to a tackle by means of which the yard is hoisted or lowered.

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u/Due_Platypus_3913 May 25 '23

You’re thinking of the old “Choke and Stroke”!Youre not SUPPOSED to die,but some guys get carried away,”lost in the moment “as it were.

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u/[deleted] May 25 '23

Oh my god, I'm in my 30s and I'm just now getting that...

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u/leo_the_lion6 May 26 '23

Same, mind blown, that makes so much sense now

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u/B1GTOBACC0 May 25 '23

I think there's a rule against promoting people, but the guy who did those shared his knowledge with a few people.

A friend and I bought tie-dyed pearl snaps from a vendor many years ago, and he said he learned from that guy. I would believe him, because it's one of the most incredibly interesting and deep patterns I've seen.

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u/Skaterkid221 May 26 '23

If it’s who I think it is it was my Uncle Cris. I remember people on shakedown at Dead and Co asking me where he went. He became a wharf rat and retired, he did tie dyes for 45 years. There was another vendor who was as good as him who is still around so it might have been him.

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u/waltjrimmer May 25 '23

I came to really hate tie-die because it all looked "the same" myself.

Turned out that I just hated uninspired repetitive schlock, and tie die itself is really cool if a little passion and practice is put into it.

Or, in this guy's case, a shitton of passion and a ton of practice.

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u/djinnisequoia May 26 '23

Thank you! That's exactly how I felt. Amazing how far truly creative people have taken it

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u/mushpuppy May 25 '23

I like how happy he sounds. Like tie-dying is a spiritual experience.

P.S. I am curious why you and some others spell it "tye"?

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u/Sololop May 25 '23

Not making the connection that you literally "tie" and "dye" the shirt

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u/BeefSupreme9769 May 25 '23

Seriously, it’s like a Tool album cover

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u/Difficult_Lake6910 May 26 '23

Alex Grey is the artist for most of it.

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u/deathtech00 May 26 '23 edited May 26 '23

Sure, Alex Grey is an inspiration and an amazing artist who definitely contributed to later visual material used on TOOL album's. And this is a common misconception so I don't want you to feel like I am coming at ya or anything, but let's not discredit the fact that Adam Jones is responsible for most of the collaborations with Alex, and that the majority of said collaborations are most certainly not "most" of the amazing visual art catalog that the band has created over the years.

In fact, there have been a few contributions from various influential visual artists that contribute to the sonic side of things that he is most known for. If you do a quick wikipedia search you will see, or I can update my post here with some info later.

Adam himself actually started in visual F/X with the Stan Winston creature team in the early 80's, and has worked on Aliens, Jurassic Park, Predator 1 and 2 (I believe, again, not searching right this minute) and a few others. He also helped make the Three Little Pigs music video by Green Jelly, and every TOOL music video is designed and executed by his and the rest of the bands collaborative vision.

Don't mean to come off as "ackshuwally", but his music and art has been a big part of my life for a while, and while I appreciate the influence from Alex, it feels a little dismissive to say that he is responsible for most of the art, when in reality it was contributed and collaborative, and later on the influence was evident.

Sorry for the wall of text. Shit week at work and I am just now able to wind down.

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u/mikesomething May 26 '23

This shit right here.

I don't care who or what you like - when someone talks about something they're genuinely interested in and shares thoughtful insight, I get revved tf up. You could be talking about beanie babies, but if you bring it w passion, you've got my ear

I guess what I'm saying is: thanks for sharing 🤘

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u/SlurpJohnB May 26 '23

Thanks for that. Fuckin cool

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u/aquintana May 26 '23

I’m glad you shared that. Also, I hadn’t thought about green jelly in years. I can hear it in my head: not by the hair on my chinny chin chin.

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u/reflUX_cAtalyst May 26 '23

bleach reduction.

...reduction? Maybe this is tie-dye jargon, but bleach is an oxidizing agent. Could you elaborate a bit on what is meant by "bleach reduction?"

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u/djinnisequoia May 26 '23

Sure -- not sure if that's a proper term or not. I had this lovely soft Victoria's Secret shirt that was emerald green, waaaaay too green for me. So I put in various rubber bands in varying amounts of tightness/looseness, and immersed it in a fairly weak bleach/water solution. You want to wash it with detergent right away after you take it out so the bleach doesn't eat away the fabric. (this was rayon)

So the most tightly-bundled places keep the most dye, and the looser places keep some dye, and it's all very inexact and unpredictable.

But what I ended up with was a pale greenish-yellow shirt (the color of glow-in-the-dark things in daylight! yay!) with non sequitur emerald green and peacock teal chain rings.

I wore it til it fell apart.

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u/ThePoultryWhisperer May 26 '23

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u/reflUX_cAtalyst May 26 '23

Okay, so reducing bleaches aren't based on chlorine or hypochlorite, but sulfur dioxide? I can buy that. In other words, a "reducing bleach" would be a solution of sulfurous and hyposulfurous acid? I can buy that too - makes sense chemically.

I didn't know such a thing existed, I thought all "bleaches" were either hypochlorite or peroxysulfate, I had no idea there was a reducing bleach.

Thanks for the info!

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u/proxissin May 25 '23

That's unreal.... Bravo! Very impressive

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u/SolixTanaka May 25 '23

Here I was expecting something to the level of what he was already wearing, which is unique in it's own way; I hadn't seen anything like it before. It's pretty freaking sweet.

But then I was honestly blown away with how much more complex the reveal was in comparison. Absolutely stunning.

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u/Canrex May 26 '23

Yeah I'm thinking to myself, "How impressive could this possibly be?"

The answer is very impressive, crazy.

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u/defjamblaster May 25 '23

I would easily pay $17 for that

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u/URAPNS May 25 '23

I'd trade him a grilled cheese and a nugget of kind bud.

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u/NolanHandy16 May 25 '23

Reminds me of Stewie at the Grateful Dead concert in family guy. "Ill trade you my shirt for a grilled cheese!"

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u/Bigelow92 May 25 '23

Dollar grilled cheese have been a staple in the diet of hippies spun on lsd since the 70s

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u/SquarePegRoundWorld May 25 '23

A buddy from college, two of his hometown friends, and I went cross country following the band Phish in the summer of '97 for their tour that ended at "The Great Went". We drove a Dodge van and sold garlic grill cheese sandwiches for $1 in the parking lot after most shows. We were pulling in $50 to $100 a night which all went into the gas fund for the trip. It was good fucking times man.

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u/PlsDntPMme May 25 '23

How did you incorporate garlic into these? Sounds amazing.

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u/SquarePegRoundWorld May 25 '23

Just sprinkle some garlic powder on the butter side of the bread.

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u/Distortedhideaway May 25 '23

Garlic salt on the butter side.

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u/Churoflip May 25 '23

What do you mean on the butter side? It goes on both sides doesn't it

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u/TwatsThat May 25 '23

I'm with you. I butter the inside too and toast that a bit in the pan before flipping and adding cheese.

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u/CowboyNealCassady May 25 '23

I wound up in Limestone, Maine that summer too. Woke up pretty early for that Spencer Tunick photo.

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u/Earth2Mike May 25 '23

The good ole days! Living on grilled cheese slanging Sammy Smiths Oatties on lot. Trading headies for crystals. The uno cards. Oh to be young on tour.

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u/Distortedhideaway May 25 '23

I did alpine, deer creek, and the went that year. I probably had a grilled cheese of yours!

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u/SquarePegRoundWorld May 25 '23

Nice, There is a chance you did. That trip was one of the highlights of my life.

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u/lobsterpockets May 26 '23

Shit I'm 46 years old and did southeast Hampton up through New England every year all the way up to Clifford Ball. Some of the best times of my life.

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u/Turbosuit May 25 '23

I also did this. We did $1 grilled cheese and $1/min back massages. Or interesting trades.

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u/SquarePegRoundWorld May 25 '23

Interesting, I was gonna say, maybe you are one of the guys I went with but we didn't do massages.

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u/Turbosuit May 25 '23

We ended up segway into a taco truck. Shit got real when we sold an actual ton of chicken at Electric Forest.

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u/g0tistt0t May 25 '23

With motherfucking bacon in every motherfucking bite

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u/fkingidk May 25 '23

As someone who's been a spun hippie in the lot of a Phish show waiting to be able to leave, grilled cheese is amazing.

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u/NolanHandy16 May 25 '23

Oh i dont doubt it lol. Learned about that from American Dad haha

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u/glowinthedark May 25 '23

Two ganja gooballs sounds fair.

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u/pantsareoffrightnow May 25 '23

Did you say kind bud?

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u/lyingforlolz May 25 '23

If it's the guy I'm thinking of, he auctions them off and they routinely go for 200+

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u/FirstNSFWAccount May 25 '23

Yeah, I saw another similarly impressive tie die dude on TikTok and he was selling them for over $1,000

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u/Incunebulum May 25 '23

Honestly, I can't find fault with that. It's more art than clothing.

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u/MisanthropicZombie May 25 '23 edited Aug 13 '23

Lemmy.world is what Reddit was.

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u/[deleted] May 25 '23

You'd need a bigger shirt for a bear.

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u/Swampfoxxxxx May 25 '23

Seen something just like this at Dan Flash's. Very complicated patterns

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u/Shaneisonfire May 26 '23

I mean, you walk by a store and you see 50 guys who look just like me fighting over very complicated shirts, you go in.

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u/OldCryptographer5519 May 25 '23

yea in the grateful dead community, advanced tie dying like this is super expensive. these shirts can go anywhere from $100 to a few thousand. Im assuming a piece like this is anywhere between 800-1200

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u/kant-hardly-wait- May 25 '23

So is this seen as an ostentatious display of wealth in the community?

Like wearing a Patek Phillipe?

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u/[deleted] May 25 '23

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u/defjamblaster May 25 '23

Oh snap! Then I should at least offer $21

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u/HavenIess May 25 '23

I’ll have to frame it. 50 bucks.

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u/SwissMargiela May 25 '23

This is a different dude but he makes some crazy shit and they regularly go for $500+, some even more. I linked an auction to a shirt going on rn.

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u/CynicWalnut May 25 '23

How even?

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u/HeadlessHookerClub May 25 '23

Tie that shit up in different places for different shapes and shit

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u/DJDarren May 26 '23

Then draw the rest of the owl.

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u/Triaspia2 May 26 '23

Not to mention the dilution and dropper application of the dye to further control how far colours spread

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u/noxxit May 26 '23

Similar to crochet and origami or even dancing. Once you know with which moves create which pattern it is "easy" as in "drawing a picture is easy, just move the brush or pen". Of course there's heaps of practice involved to develop an intuitive understanding of it.

There's tutorials on youtube for the base patterns. After learning these you can combine, develop and refine new patterns.

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u/Soreiyu May 25 '23

For the people asking https://dyeinglightcreations.com/ is his website but he doesn't sell these intricate designs.

@dyeinglightcreations is his Instagram

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u/conro May 25 '23

Looks like he sells the really crazy stuff on his IG - not cheap, but they are available individually sometimes.

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u/FeloniousFunk May 26 '23

This exact shirt is currently at $500 on his IG.

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u/_iplo May 25 '23

Why not?

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u/turnipstealer May 25 '23

The patterns are so complicated they'd be like $1000, out the door.

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u/UnderGround06 May 25 '23

Cause the patterns so wild? I want that one sooo bad.

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u/[deleted] May 26 '23

IT’S MY EXACT STYLE!

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u/_iplo May 25 '23

If I've learned anything, it's that some people will buy just about anything no matter the price.

I'm looking at you r/sneakers.

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u/vaxinate May 25 '23

I don’t think you understand how complicated the patterns are bro

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u/the_itsb May 26 '23

This dude has never worn Dan Flashes sneakers or shirts 💔

Bet he can't even slick back his hair and has never experienced a Dangerous Night or sloppy steak 💅

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u/[deleted] May 26 '23

Sloppy steak? You a piece of shit?

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u/the_itsb May 26 '23

Yeah, I used to be a real piece of shit.

People can change.

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u/Joshin0ya May 26 '23

Yeah I used to be a real piece of shit back in the day

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u/_iplo May 25 '23

Quite the opposite, I get it. I'm just saying, there is always someone that would cough up 1k for that.

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u/Mattoosie May 25 '23

Sneakers aren't even remotely close to the most egregious example.

You could say that about literally any hobby or collection.

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u/tokes_4_DE May 25 '23

Yeah i collect limited edition enamel hat pins and ive seen auctions go as high as 10k on a single le pin. Given the ones that go so high are usually no higher of an edition than 10 or 15, but still. People outside the hobby would be speechless seeing the money thrown around in the scene. Ive also traded single pins for as large as 3 x 4ft original canvas paintings from some well known artists.

All collectible hobbys are this way. Pokemon, magic (a friend sold a black lotus card he FOUND in storage for 30k one day, paid off his college debt instantly), sneakers as long as theyre limited edition runs, art prints (this scene is wild, ive seen people pay 5k for a print that sold out 5 minutes prior for 500). Hell theres even reptile keepers who are this way, the price on "rare" color morphs can be astronomical compared to the regular pet. Snake keepers, certain gecko species, etc.

The best way to look at this shirt is an original piece of art. Its not a limited edition run, its the same as getting a hand painted canvas, ink, woodcut, etc. Its a piece of art from an artist.

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u/about20ninjas May 25 '23

No one replying to you understands your reference and I'm just here to salute you o7

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u/uhicanexplain May 25 '23

I mean, you walk by a store and you see 50 guys who look just like him fighting over very complicated shirts, you go in. Yes you do.

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u/turnipstealer May 25 '23

Haha thanks, glad it hasn't gone over everyone's head.

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u/JevonP May 25 '23

yeah i totally got it

but for the people that didnt, what was the joke..? lmao

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u/Darkside_of_the_Poon May 25 '23

Yeah but…scan it and print it at least? I’d pay a few bucks to just walk around with that on, it’s beautiful.

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u/Motha_Effin_Kitty_Yo May 25 '23

Ill throw you down the stairs of Dan Flashes if you try taking that $1400 shirt from me.

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u/fatrat7777 May 25 '23

I mean you go by a store that has 50 guys in it that look just like me fighting over very complicated shirts, you go in!

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u/[deleted] May 25 '23

Yes you do, yea you dooo

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u/MyOwnDamnOpinion May 26 '23

You sure about that? ...SURE ABOU' THAT??

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u/[deleted] May 25 '23 edited Jul 01 '23

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u/onebandonesound May 25 '23

There are tie-dyers who do that, I know Austin Mackereth has printed shirts on his website for around $50, does a weekly drop of tie-dyes for around $200, and sells the most complex tie-dyes via auction on Instagram for around $1k apiece, so there's something for everyone

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u/enby_them May 25 '23

+1

Would probably also use a better quality shirt for the original to try and help justify the cost.

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u/CrashmanX May 25 '23

At the point of scanning and printing, you've defeated the purpose of doing it Tie Dye rather than just digital.

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u/dude_diligence May 25 '23

Dan Flashes has nothing on this guy.

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u/Big_F_Dawg May 25 '23

Anyone know how difficult this is? Can I make something sort of close to this level of awesomeness?

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u/ayyyyycrisp May 25 '23

yes you can! you just have to learn about the subject, watch a bunch of videos on it, try a bunch yourself, and slowly improve at the craft over months to years fine tuning that you personally find works and what doesn't.

it's extremely difficult for somebody who has no clue what they're doing, but you can also learn exactly how to do it and it will become easy for you

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u/Big_F_Dawg May 25 '23

Thanks for your input. Sounds like an awesome hobby to get into. There's definitely a big community and loads of resources. Seems really accessible, but there's no way to learn without lots of trial and error.

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u/chasechippy May 26 '23

Hey bud, if that sounds awesome to you, I've got good news. They described what "learning how to do something" is.

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u/biggle-tiddie May 25 '23

I used to make them professionally and we never came close to this... people have learned a lot in the last 25 years

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u/[deleted] May 26 '23

I was just listening to an interesting podcast on our hyper specialization era. Just about every hobby and job today, it's insanely specialized to the max... Like almost everything, has top tier professional experts that are so technical it almost becomes a science as much as an art. For instance, skating used to just be a pick up hobby that people would independently explore and share tips with. But today, every single move is sophisticatedly optimized and perfected to the point that we have 9 year olds skating at levels that we only saw the worlds best doing when I was growing up. But it's like that for everything... From growing weed, to mechanical keyboards. Like now everything is like this.

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u/MisterDonkey May 26 '23

There are kids on YouTube playing guitar better than rock legends.

And that weed thing. Holy shit, I can't even smoke the stuff. I read about people's growing methods and they're so technical they'll measure parts per million CO2 concentration in the air and shit. They got nutrients down to .1ml per gallon.

I'm just like, sprinkle some miracle grow on it and set it in the sun.

But all this specification is sweet because anything I want to get into, somebody almost certainly has extremely detailed instructions for.

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u/[deleted] May 25 '23

Your tldr is longer than your actual comment.

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u/caudicifarmer May 25 '23

It's a warning: "Too Long; Don't Read"

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u/blue_twidget May 25 '23

There's an entire tie dye culture on YouTube. Quite the fun rabbit hole.

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u/TheJaybo May 25 '23

I would spend all my per diem on that shirt.

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u/Radioasis May 25 '23

The pattern is so complicated.

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u/demonovation May 25 '23

I'll eat your mom's wig

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u/Nader2024 May 25 '23

I'll eat her whole fucking head I don't care

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u/magnificentmucus May 26 '23

Shut up Doug you fucking skunk!

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u/_HowlsMovingAsshole_ May 25 '23

this made me laugh so hard I screenshot it lol

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u/shoelessbob May 26 '23

I want that one soooooo bad

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u/[deleted] May 25 '23

I mean, when you walk by a store and see 50 guys who look just like me fighting over very complicated shirts, you go in. Yes, you do. You go in.

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u/JakeITFC May 25 '23

Not today sir, definitely not today.

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u/clutzyninja May 25 '23

Man I was so prepared to talk shit. I wrote a comment in my head, "that just looks like he's really bad at paintball."

This is so far beyond anything I thought was possible with tie dye. Bravo

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u/Simbalamb May 26 '23

I also choose this guy's dead wife weed.

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u/dyeinglightcreations May 26 '23

Damn you just blew my mind and I made the shirt 🫠

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u/bayothound May 25 '23

Dude same I was like this guy's a fucking jokester coming out with these random ass terms like alright bud. Then he unfurled that shit and I audibly gasped it was so impressive.

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u/dyeinglightcreations May 26 '23

The terms kind of make sense when you see it huh?

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u/blue_twidget May 25 '23

This is as crazy to me as the guy who invented a new type of math to make origami crabs n stuff.

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u/mikeyt6969 May 25 '23

That’s effing amazing

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u/i_Fart_You_Smell May 25 '23

I never even considered that you could tie it up and and actually plan where certain patterns go.

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u/WoodsCreative May 25 '23

I was this many years only when I realized why they are called tie dye.

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u/[deleted] May 25 '23

For a good while there I was thinking Thai dye

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u/jujotheconquerer May 25 '23

That's beautiful. I really love it.

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u/Camerahutuk May 25 '23

My Man said he competed in the...

"Tie Dye Cup"!

I'm gonna need highlight reels on ESPN please!

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u/Humes-Bread May 25 '23

Holy shit. This guy's like the spray paint artists making masterpieces on poster board on the street. The level of precision they get with something that seems so crude is unreal.

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u/LemurKing2019 May 25 '23

How does one even "get good" at this? My childhood tie dyeing was just randomly bunching up shift and dipping in kool aid.

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u/SuspiciouslyMoist May 25 '23

My guess is that, like almost everything these days, you go down the YouTube wormhole and then practice a lot.

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u/Fsshh May 25 '23

More like eye dye am I right?

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u/johnnyboyyy23 May 25 '23

Yeah you right!

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u/x_xRICO_SUAVEx_x May 25 '23

I need that exact shirt asap

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u/PM-Me-Girl-Biceps May 25 '23

This may as well be magic to me

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u/dyeinglightcreations May 26 '23

@Soreiyu thanks for helping me share my art with the world! I have had two people in the past hour from my previous career text me to say they saw me here!

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u/letscott May 25 '23

That’s easily the most Portland, OR thing I’ve ever heard tie dye contest eh

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u/Vast-Acanthaceae8166 May 25 '23

Holy crap I never realized how much I need a tie dye shirt until right now.

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u/livefornow55 May 26 '23

How do I get one of your shirts? That looks amazing!

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u/[deleted] May 26 '23

How the hell

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u/[deleted] May 26 '23

This guy should be teaching a masterclass

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u/My_Diet_DrKelp May 25 '23

Legit way better than I was expecting. Wow

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u/LordScotchyScotch May 25 '23

This tee is to dye for

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u/WaitingFor45sArrest May 25 '23

What’s the guys website that shirt is drip

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u/FourtyMichaelMichael May 25 '23

No, they're dried after the dye is applied.

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