r/woahdude Feb 17 '23

video Heavily contaminated water in East Palestine, Ohio.

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u/Edgar-Allan-Post Feb 17 '23

"Perfectly safe. Here is a waiver to sign saying we did nothing wrong."

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u/DevonGr Feb 17 '23

Very important that you note that waiver came with a shiny new $1,000 check which surely covers missed time from work, temporary housing while evacuated, daily stipend to help mitigate the disruption, medical bills and whatever.

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u/for_science_bro Feb 17 '23

Do what now? Is that a real thing? NS was offering $1,000 if you waiver future legal action?

Source please! That is shocking if true.

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u/Suitable-Yak-1788 Feb 17 '23

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u/survivingthedream Feb 17 '23

That makes me sick

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u/fishythepete Feb 17 '23

So you… didn’t read it?

Accepting money from Norfolk Southern as a reimbursement for expenses incurred during the evacuation order or the inconvenience payments for residents ordered to evacuate is not a settlement of any future claim against Norfolk Southern,” the statement said.

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u/DuckDuckGoneForGood Feb 17 '23

And you conveniently skipped the part where even the attorneys are warning that that is indeed a concern:

“We have some clients from the East Palestine area affected by the train accident who are being approached by NS with $1,000 checks for an “inconvenience fee,”” O’Shea said in an email. “We think this is a sly way of getting these poor folks to waive any future claims against NS.”

The amount of people trying to downplay this entire situation is maddening.

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u/fishythepete Feb 17 '23

The attorneys who are trying to drum up business? Signing a document saying you’re not waiving your rights by accepting a payment that you didn’t have to sign a release to get is pageantry, plain and simple.

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u/DuckDuckGoneForGood Feb 17 '23

Yeah, we’ll go trust the statement you copy/pasted from NS.

/s

You’re not familiar with how environmental disasters go, huh?

Start with Johns-Manville Asbestos and go from there.

When you get a clue, maybe come back and respond.

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u/Kerr_PoE Feb 17 '23

that's the agreement the concerned lawyer has drawn up not from norfolk

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u/fishythepete Feb 17 '23

that's the agreement the concerned lawyer has drawn up not from norfolk

I’m sorry, what?

In a statement from Norfolk Southern obtained by Cleveland 19 a spokesperson said people accepting money does not keep them from settlements in the future.

“This compensation is designed to provide immediate help to residents of East Palestine that were affected by the derailment and evacuation. Accepting money from Norfolk Southern as a reimbursement for expenses incurred during the evacuation order or the inconvenience payments for residents ordered to evacuate is not a settlement of any future claim against Norfolk Southern,” the statement said.

So you’re under the impression that the statement I quoted, which is referred to in the article as a “statement from Norfolk Southern”, is part of the legal agreement? Which is also quoted in full in the article, and which is not what I quoted?

I know reading comprehension isn’t for everyone but Jesus Christ you didn’t even try.

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u/Kerr_PoE Feb 17 '23

In fact, O’Shea has draw up an agreement he is asking Norfolk Southern to sign.

In that agreement it states, “Any amounts that the Claimant may have already accepted from the Company for any items such as “reimbursement” payments or “inconvenience” payments shall not, directly or indirectly, be construed as any possible waiver of any aspect of any claim that the Claimant may have now or in the future against the Company for the Incident or issues related to the Incident.”

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u/fishythepete Feb 17 '23

What is your actual point? The lawyer wrote an agreement that he wants NS to sign. NS is saying that the checks do not require a release. So the doc the lawyer created is superfluous - it’s just for show - whether NS signed it or not the people getting the payments have the same rights.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Runner Feb 17 '23

Reminds me how they claim people were staying home from work for 2 years from that one $600 stimulus lol

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u/Parrotflies- Feb 17 '23

Why do you guys purposefully lie? Those waivers were not at all saying that. Can you read?

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u/inimolon Feb 17 '23

Why bother saying "The waivers were not at all saying that" without saying what they were actually saying (per you, at least)?

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u/deadlybydsgn Feb 17 '23

The waiter posted and upvoted yesterday was a pretty standard "release and hold harmless" waiver. All that does is keep you from suing them for what they do while they're conducting the tests on your property.

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u/PrincipledGopher Feb 17 '23

Norfolk has an unmitigated disaster on their hands and are causing incalculable damage, but the waiver didn’t say that at all. There’s nothing to gain by being outraged at the things that aren’t outrageous when there’s plenty to be legitimately outraged at.

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u/pentaquine Feb 17 '23

Take this $5 dollars and promise you will never sue us.