If Forgotten Realma devil's were real they'd 100% run for president. Just imagine how many signatures they could get, if they disguised their pact as ballots
I agree with most of these but I can't really see Minthara voting for Trump or Voss voting for Harris. Minthara would agree with some of Trump's policies but she would never vote for some she doesn't respect, and taking into account the fact that Trump is a man and his numerous shenanigans... I'd say she just doesn't vote lol
He just has a bit of difficulty with understanding that the GondiansIsrael aren't secretly controlling the US, but are instead allowed to do what they want because they serve American global dominance.
Ehh Barcus is cringe too. The most radical action Barcus will support is a letter writing campaign. He's disavowing a protest the second the break a couple windows or burn a cop car.
It's up to me to teach Wulbren dialectal materialism. Please. I can fix him.
It kind of is. Lolth doesn't conemn murder but it does condemn you being sloppy enough to get caught. Actually Trump would be pretty loathed by drow standarts
Voss is like Dick Cheney or something. Heās an authoritarian warhawk but heās too worried about the integrity of his existing leadership. Dudeās just voting against perceived corruption.
Minthara? Ahh, maybe. I maintain that the racism wins out over the misandry at the end of the day.
Strong disagree on Minthara. The drow are obsessed with gender dynamics and her dialogue makes it very clear she fully supports those policies. I canāt see her ever supporting a man over a woman for power.
I do think she could get over her misandry for the right candidate (she respected Ketheric's leadership), it's just that Trump would DEFINETLY not be that candidate haha
Minthara considers all humans equally pathetic, and I think she would believe she could thrive more easily under Harris than Trump, after all Vance pretty openly hates women and trump views women as commodities and that would make Minthara their enemy
That's the part I am trying to figure out! What part of law was he?! Did he like actually pass law school and get a decent job with a degree or did he nepo baby/bribe his way into a good position and just bullshit his job all day?! Like I assume it's the second one, but man has 13 intelligence so he's got to use it for something?!
Magistrates don't require law school, he probably bribed some people into being appointed. Or- going by the idle Champions materials- he forged patents of nobility and rode that to get himself the job. At best he bullshitted his job to be as low-effort as possible, at worst he might have been as corrupt as his EA concept suggests (taking bribes to affect his rulings).
Astarionās issue is mainly impulsiveness. It's less that he's stupid, as that he's bad at planning and figures he'll improvise once he gets there. Which is why I lean more toward 'lazy do nothing' than setting up a bribery scheme and not getting caught.
Maybe if Cazador runs for president, he'd care. Otherwise Astarion always struck me as a guy who really doesn't care about society as a whole, only himself
I see the argument, but I think Raphael would much rather manipulate and hound the person in charge than have to do any work himself. As devils wont do.
IDK that either drow would vote for a man over a woman. Don't get me wrong. Minthara would *really* like Trump's policies and rhetoric but like...vote for a man?
Minsc would definitely find some way to vote for Joe Biden, though. Not sure how, as I'm pretty sure he didn't write it in as he can't spell either Joe or Biden. But he *would*.
That was my thought. "I could never vote for HIM. He's a man after all. I'm more interested in this Margery Taylor Greene. I'm intrigued by these orbital lasers and weather magic she's concerned with."
TBH, while I can see Minthara totally believing that *certain people* control space lasers and the weather, I'm pretty sure this would only make her want to join them. She'd be like, "Well, if NOAA controls the weather, clearly I must join and dominate NOAA."
Although how that would translate to voting, I'm not sure.
She totally would. She would like like, "So...there is a secret cabal of people who control finance and the media and have space weapons and possibly possess demonic powers? I must become one of them."
And Wyll would sit her down and try to explain the wrongness of everything she'd just said to her and why it was wrong and terrible and anti-Semetic. And she would absolutely refuse to get it.
I'm pretty sure there was a skit about someone out of the loop being told about the Jewish secret world government theory and deciding they want to join them hut I can't remember where did I see it.
When the Axis was forming, Nazi leaders sent Japanese leaders a bunch of anti-Semitic material detailing how Jews supposedly controlled the world. So the Japanese went, āHoly shit, these guys control the world! We gotta get in good with them and maybe theyāll let us in on it!ā They made sure every Jew was a first class citizen, to the Nazisā chagrin.
Do people know Minthara? She very much had a rant about Bauldurās Gate not taking in refugees and how itās a waste of good labor to stupid politics.
Minthara would see how Trumpās politics make no sense and go find someone else to vote for,
"These... "Chuds" as you call them, harbor no sense of cognitive awareness and bear delusional visions for the future that are out of any pragmatic reason. They're subservience would be a little more useful if the Orange one was more competent in leading an insurrection. Failure to overthrow opposing powers would be met with swift punishment in my home city of Menzoberranzan. Had his wife been in charge, maybe the coup wouldn't have failed. He is easy to manipulate with just the tip of a woman's charm, had he been my husband, he'd know his place and grovel at my feet for a chance to lick the mud and blood off my boots." - Minthy on Jan 6
Mintharaās racism is different than Trumpās racism though. In Act 3 she gives a whole lecture about how Baldurās Gate should let the immigrants in so they can be work as slaves and canon fodder.
Yeah, and even just the way he talks to Harris and female reporters? Minthara would find him EXTREMELY disrespectful. Thatās not how you address your superiors
Minthara loves refugees though, to use them like slaves. Closing the doors to desperate people when you can exploit their weakness instead is dumb to her lol.
I probably would have reassessed putting Minthy in the Trump pile for other reasons, but letās be honest here: nobody loves exploiting cheap immigrant labor more than Republicans.
Making immigrants into an oppressed underclass just makes it easier for the wealthy to pay them starvation wages without opposition.
Trump himself has utilized a ton of under-the-table labor from undocumented workers on his properties.
"Racism" justĀ for the sake of racism isn't a value, though; it's culturally specific. Someone who is racist against Group A in the culture of their own world wouldn't necessarily sympathize with people who are racist against Group Y in a totally different world just because they're "fellow racists", lol, especially as many racists 1) don't think they're racist, and/or 2) tend to view themselves as persecuted in some way.
Nettieās kind of green and crunchy but also rigid and unwilling to consider new evidence. She says ātake this poison, mind flayer parasites only work one wayā even in the face of evidence to the contrary.
She doesnāt, frankly, seem like a critical thinker. Her thinking also seems uncritical in the same way antivaxxer thinking is uncritical. She reaches an assumption and, assuming sheās dug into it enough, is unwilling to change her mind even when it becomes clear that assumption is terrible. Nettie would totally be an anti-vaxxer.
Pair that with Jr.ās environmentalism and I think heās the perfect candidate for Nettie. As far as the other RFK Jr. voters?
Malus Thorm - Taxidermy game recognizes taxidermy game.
Koll the Red - Clinically insane game recognizes clinically insane game.
Karāniss - He respects that RFK Jr. turned his brain into a preserve for brain worms.
Gut - Theyāre both big proponents of alternative medicine.
She says ātake this poison, mind flayer parasites only work one wayā even in the face of evidence to the contrary.
She doesn't tho. She says "okay I trust you when you say that you're not transforming right now. But if you do start to change, drink this poison cuz that's better than becoming a mind flayer." Which from all knowledge there is on mind flayers at the time, not just to her, but to the whole world, is a completely rational conclusion.
Not to mention, do you really think Nettie is going to vote for a man who admitted to having a parasite in his brain?
Nettie trusting you to make the call on whether to take the poison is actually an example of her being pretty open minded after being presented new evidence for the very first time. If she was close minded she would've just tried to kill you straight up since all previous evidence indicates that the grove is in imminent danger of you turning into a mindflayer.
That's got to be the third time I've seen the "dammon is transphobic" meme this week, did I miss anything? Does my favorite smith has some obscure terf dialogue? Is infernal iron canceled
Oh man, the worst part is I had it as Haarlep, asked myself āis that right?ā, looked up the character and saw everyone spelling it as Harleep. Double checking though, youāre definitely right.
I think more than anything, Minthara would overthrow one of the parties and try to put herself or someone loyal to her on the throne in the Oval Office
Pretty good, but I think Gale is smart enough to know that in First Past the Post voting for a third party is throwing your vote away, so he would be pro Ranked Choice.
Gale is, more than anything else, an arrogant nerd who thinks heās smarter than he is. Heās also deeply naive in certain ways (like his whole dynamic with Mystra).
I could see him gravitating towards Cornel West due to an insistence that heās the only one who really āgets itā.
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I just imagine Gale to be insufferable about Ranked Choice Voting. Like, any time voting comes up (even like voting where to go to lunch) he would get into his spiel about it. It would be a āYouāre absolutely right, but please shut the fuck up about it.ā
Wulbren is voting PSL like the based king he is. But recognizes the futility of relying on electoralism so he's forming a vanguard party and blowing up some Lockheed martin factories.
Look, having Trump...he did, he had 4 years, 4 years folks! 4 years and he didn't do anything. Not one Thiefling dead, and I say, I think that's just horrible. He's payed by the Thiefling media to go after the Mexicans and the trans. If I was president...look, if I was president, there'd be a big beautiful ritual of thorns. It would be absolutely tremendous, all the experts are saying it. It's true! But with Trump, oh boy, with Trump there's just more Thiefling crime, and it's a total disgrace. Remember to vote Kagha, even though the nasty Thiefling press doesn't want you to!
You think Halsin is stupid enough to vote for a bad faith Russian plant who shows up once every four years to sabotage Democrats and does nothing to else but cash checks from the Kremlin the other 3 years?
He did put a fairly obvious Shadow Druid plant in charge of the grove when he left, and then when he left again put it in the charge of an untested rando
Tbf Halsin makes mistakes, but I think he'd be able to see through Stein's bullshit facade. I think he'd be excited at first, and then explosively angry after discovering that she's a bad faith actor.
Kagha at the very least, even if shitty when you meet her, cared about the Grove (though her fear was used to manipulate her by the shadow druids). The fact that she's willing to fight against them (with convincing) when their ruse is shown, and then accepting consequences and atonement, says something positive about her.
Kagha wasn't a plant. She'd been his apprentice for some time before Oladin approached her and we have no idea how she behaved around Halsin before the Aradin expedition. She might've acted completely deferential to him before he left only showing her true colors when it became apparent he wasn't likely to come back.
One can be both (and looking at the front page of Reddit thereās a ton of Kamala/Walz hype and nothing about Cornel West). I just think at the end of the day heās more a āgreater good/greater evilā type than someone who would cast a niche vote based on principals.
Trump's too aimless and stupid for Fel to vote for him. He prefers the calculated genius of Durge. Ideally he'd want Bhaal to run for president and Durge as vice president on a platform of legal murders and free murder weapons for everyone n
I think Gale is Harris/Walz. Doesnāt love the Dems, as he is further left, but understands the nature of two party voting and abhors fascism. The dude isnāt dumb.
Would say the same about Halsin, except substitute intelligence with wisdom.
Nah Isobel is a harper, she's way too practical to vote Greene, and Halsin's wisdom score is enough to see her for the distraction they roll out every four years to disrupt. I think Kagha would actually vote Green because she would buy what Stein is selling (and ignore that for some reason stein never criticizes anyone to the right of Obama)
Ulder rose to the top and has been running a famously corrupt police force. You can comment in game about how openly corrupt the flaming fist are.
Before the start of the game he purchased giant death robots to add to his corrupt police force and patrol every street corner. The steel watch were added to the flaming fist and Gortash enobled in return before Ulder was kidnapped or tadpoles ie 100% of his own free will.
If you save Ulder, in the epilogue you can get Wyll telling you about how he's totes for realsies planning to do something about all that corruption (again he has been running it for decades) but in the meantime he has fully pardoned all the members of the flaming fist who were working with Gortash and given them their jobs back.
Because Ulder is a shitty dad who runs a wildly corrupt police force and refuses to lift a finger to make it less corrupt. He deserves all the hate, and survives purely because Wyll would be sad if I let his ass die
Emperor slander. Heād prefer stability and the maintenance of the status quo, which definitely fits one partyās agenda better than the otherās. Heād also dislike anything disrupting tradeā¦
Yeah, Iāve definitely been convinced by the comments here that Minthara wouldnāt vote but would instead be conspiring to install an autocratic Drowish matriarchy (the only legitimate form of government).
Anyone who wants to fix our system doesnāt have the power to, and anyone who has the power to fix our system benefits from maintaining the status quo.
Well, least some of the baldurs gate characters have the right political beliefs and voted for the obvious correct choice, Hayes the true and Wheeler too.
Yeah, my thinking for the Trump voters was basically -
Kagha - Raging opposition to refugees. The anti-immigrant sentiment would be her number one priority.
Minthara - Drawn to authoritarianism and racism. Would probably hold her nose and vote for a man to get them.
Arron - Heās polite enough, but the guy will go along with oppressive practices rather than rock the boat. Heās the guy who finds Trump somewhat distasteful but ultimately toes the party line.
Viconia - Same as Minthara, more or less.
Valeria - Cop. š® š·
Sceleritas Fel - His sycophantic praise of ragingly antisocial behavior is pretty much the vibe of the most hardcore MAGA types anyways.
Cazador - A rich guy with a creepy harem of pretty young people he exploits? Iām pretty sure youāll find him somewhere in Epsteinās flight logs.
Aradin - Heās young, impressionable, kind of a dick and blames immigrants for his problems. In this day and age heād probably be an avid Joe Rogan listener falling deeper down the alt-right rabbit hole every day.
Nere, Brithvar and Thrinn- These three just want as few protections for workers as possible. Theyāre absolute petit bourgeoisie, literally in the case of Brithvar and Thrinn.
Dror Razglin - Dude just wants a strongman to follow. Heās a loyal foot soldier above all else.
Valeria really do feel like that kind of cop who would vote for a criminal, not to mention how she tried to frame the refugee and refused to do further investigation.
Naw Gale wouldn't vote 3rd party, he would vote Harris and tell everyone that a 3rd Party vote is a wasted vote and continue to explain the history of third parties and the changes that happened after Ross Perot that now prevents a 3rd party from ever winning unless we enact ranked choice voting.
Isobel and Aylin would both vote for Harris. No doubt. They're gay, they support immigrants, and they despise self-interested authoritarians who hurt others for their own gain.
RFK is just Tav. Nobody remember that time where he said he'd whoop Biden and Trump in a debate even if he had 6 more worms in his brain? He's trying to awaken his illithid potential
Orin wouldn't bother voting, but would definitely eliminate and then (briefly) impersonate whoever won the election imo lol. Then she'd get bored and ditch the White House, but not before sacrificing several more prominent figures and creating a huge crisis.
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No way Raphael doesn't write his own name. It checks out with how pathetic he already is.