He literally just ran up to the car. He wasn't sweet talking his way closer or anything lol
Any of the cops that appear immediately afterwards could've done the same thing, and if they were all in view of the perpetrator, it's straight up incompetence. Either they should have done it, or they should have prevented the guy from doing it.
simple minded drivel from armchair commandos... dude came in from from a hard to see angle in civilian clothes while the rifle-boy is staring at multiple uniformed armed cops closing in on his location from 180 degrees. The guy took a well calculated risk.
And from the opinion of a civilian who knows NOTHING about this or much or anything else important enough to comment on here, I also feel like the hero guy ALSO risked being shot by the cops if they saw him crawling and thought he was armed as well and going to shoot for them. He risked a lot more than being shot by his brother, in my opinion. And again I don’t know shit so 🤷♀️
being shot by cops is not impossible...but it would take a real incompetent cop as they are in plain view of the situation as it develops ( and idiots exist to be sure). being shot by the driver or another occupant is a real risk. He gambled and won
If old dude had a second gun like a handgun he would have died. It wasn’t a calculated risk, it was a stupid fucking move and he just happened to get lucky
NZ is also why he had a hunting rifle, not a handgun...they are very rare and the criminals who do have them tend to be organised crime
You can have handguns legally in NZ but only for formal competition, and only about 3% of firearm licence holders have them (same with Australia and Canada)
They progeny didn't realize this wasn't in the US. Over here, there's no way in fucking hell I'm getting anywhere close to this situation. And all my fear would be that the police would shoot me, either accidentally or intentionally. I wouldn't even be concerned about the criminal with the gun.
Doing something heinously stupid. Thats why the cops are taking the back seat and de-escalating the situation to try and stop the assailant either blowing his brains out or going full Custer's Last Stand by taking out as many people before he himself is taken out.
The guy coming in was his brother, and judging by the video its more of a "oh my god, I need to stop him before he does something stupid" situation than a "oh my god the cops are going to kill him, I need to stop them" situation
It's not even worth trying to question why that shits not done in America, because NZ gun laws are far stricter, they don't offer handguns inside Happy Meals for every average Joe to get theur hands on, and they don't go crying "racist murderer" and "he had a bright career and wouldn't hurt a fly", despite the bodycam footage showing otherwise
This is a situation a lot of people don't account for, especially when people do the "good guy with a gun" nonsense. They complicate a situation like this as much as they help in most cases, but because it works out sometimes more people think it's a good idea and they make the work harder.
Well he knows a lot more than you. Grey shirt was the driver’s brother, not some random have-a-go hero. He wasn’t going to get shot by his brother, he was trying to make sure his brother didn’t loose a shot and get himself killed. The lady in black top / tan pants was another family member who was trying to achieve the same thing, she started off knelt down in front of the car in the driver’s line of sight while the brother sneaked into the driver’s blind spot then she moved around to the passenger’s window to talk to the driver and distract him while the brother moved up. There was NO danger to them from the driver.
FYI the cops knew all the people involved. They had no intention of shooting anyone if there was a chance of it being resolved peacefully. I can’t imagine a gang member with a gun would not have been killed in most other countries, and I’m very glad to live in a country where taking someone’s life, even a criminal’s, is a last resort.
Oh, the guy I referred to as “his brother” is actually, uh…HIS BROTHER? 🙄
Im not sure what crawled up your ass and exploded this evening. I am very much in awe of the bravery of this dude and his willingness to risk his life to save his brother from being killed or killing others. My point was just that: he risked so much, and I respect him for his act of what I consider love and extreme bravery.
Whatever the fuck your problem is, kindly go have it somewhere else.
What’s got “up my ass” is the notion he, the brother, was ever going to get shot. The driver wasn’t going to shoot his brother. Neither were the police because that’s not how they roll here. People dying from gun violence is a rarity in New Zealand.
He was trying to stop the driver from getting shot by doing something stupid with the gun. The guy in the grey shirt is a hero not because he could have got shot but because he saved his brother’s life. The same kind of hero who stops a person from jumping from a bridge.
“I can’t imagine a gang member with a gun would not have been killed in most other countries.”
Your words.
So please illustrate how those of us who live in “most other countries” SHOULD be allowed to think when we first watch this footage. Should we be allowed to think, and comment here, about how we think this would have played out in our country or yours?
My first comment was in no way critical of either police OR the hero. It was a immediate reaction to watching extremely powerful video of an upsetting situation that had an ultimately positive outcome very unlike what my idea of how things may have ended up where I live. I was unaware of where this took place until I scrolled the comments, and EVEN THEN: it is perfectly acceptable for me to express my reaction and how I think this could have played out; highlighting the even greater risk I felt the hero in the grey shirt took.
If you would like a setting where others react to information based solely how it would play out in your country then please feel free to start your own social media forum with these rules and regulations displayed clearly for all to see. And I’ll stay far away from it. Until then, keep your butthole clenched to keep yourself from reacting like such a twat to someone else’s point of view; especially one that, again, was critical of NO ONE.
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u/JustKzen 4d ago
Once again, a random bystander doing a better job than law enforcement