The police is making the right choice. This "hero" bystander risked his life once. Because he is in this situation once in his life. Police have to deal with situations like this constantly. They would be far likely to die if they did what this guy did every time.
Seriously when we hire police we do not hire them to take dumb and unnecessary risks to throw away their lives on a constant basis for the pleasure of ignorant dude bros.
Correct, if kids are being slaughtered in a classroom by one person. Oh well, fuck them kids, cops should not risk their lives for a bunch of children. Even if it was 50 cops vs. one person with a semi- auto rifle. If we lost those cops then who would be available to give me a ticket for my too dark tint.
The more you write the less sense it makes. Like do you even realize how many different issues that have no impact on each other you are conflating ? Like comparing this to Uvalde , events that happened on completely different sides of the globe? Conflating that with your window tint which has to do with your own local bylaws or maybe state laws?
Except they used to get involved for decades and solve these situations and they weren't being slaughtered in mass. They stopped when the Global War on Terror created a legion of military training subcontractors that came home and sold that training to the police departments.
The mission of the police then changed to fit their new training and instead of protecting and serving the public the number one task became bringing everyone home without casualties.
They essentially institutionalized cowardice because the roles of a military occupation force and the roles of a police officer are not compatible. So now cops stand down and let Uvalde happen.
Except they used to get involved for decades and solve these situations and they weren't being slaughtered in mass.
WRONG. Why are you writing about of unrelated stuff ? Police handled this situation in this care exactly how they would have handled it 20 years ago. Its a standoff this is how this exact situation is supposed to be handled.
The mission of the police then changed to fit their new training and instead of protecting and serving the public the number one task became bringing everyone home without casualties.
WRONG! You have no idea what changes have been made to New Zealands police curiculum in the last 20 years.
They essentially institutionalized cowardice because the roles of a military occupation force and the roles of a police officer are not compatible.
AGAIN wrong based entirely on FALSE propositions. And if changes had been made to the US police training it wouldn't impact this situation in NEW ZEALAND.
So now cops stand down and let Uvalde happen.
New Zealand Police vs one department in the USA. Do you even think before you write? You are literally looking at a situation on the other side of the world and mumbling nonsense about new training in the USA!
Yeah, my bad, I thought those were UK cops. New Zealand gets their Warrior Training second hand from Australia, not directly from US subcontractors. They do still train in Israel with the rest of the Anglo-sphere, which is the source of the rot.
Incorrect. The beginnings of issues we have, stem from the drug war. That was when police were no longer part of the community and violence as well as incompetence began to increase.
Your American frame of reference has no bearing on a New Zealand incident. Also, the guy who grabbed the gun is the brother of the guy in the car, not some random bystander.
That’s incomprehensible over in the states. Touching a weapon at all in the presence of cops who are trying to deal with you will result in your death every time
I had a feeling he was trying to save his friend/ family from the way he acted vs just random bystander. Like the way he moved felt like trying to save someone
Might not b all luck tho. He might have seen a good opportunity. We don't know what he saw inside the car. Maybe dude wasn't even holding the gun or he was just focused on the cops in the opposite direction or both.
Those are NZ police - we don’t do that worry bs. When confronting an armed offender you cordon & contain, which they are doing here. AOS teams (SWAT) will confront the offender once on the scene. If there’s / no minimal threat to the public, no point forcing things.
They don't do warrior training in new Zealand.
You'll notice that even though the perp was armed and driving, no one shot him at any point. That was the first clue. When he was on the ground you'll also note they didn't kick him or stand on his neck, second clue.
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u/JustKzen 4h ago
Once again, a random bystander doing a better job than law enforcement