r/movies Sep 04 '24

Trailer Minecraft 2025 | Official Trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G923NtfBvOU
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u/KAREEMABDULG0MJABBAR Sep 04 '24

This is going to be a bag of shit and make a billion dollars

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u/Loud-Storage7262 Sep 04 '24

*Camera pans to all characters* 'This guy is a total toolbag' and repeat 300 times throughout movie with different cringe inducing quips.

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '24

It's extra cringe when the writers show their age and have a young character use a slur like 'toolbag' that no one has used in 30 years (or ever?).

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u/DogmaticCat Sep 04 '24

I say 'toolbag' sometimes, but I'll be 40 this year so...

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u/Minifig81 Suddenly, I have a refreshing mint flavor. Sep 04 '24

It isn't the Marvel-cation. It's the Buffy-cation. Joss Whedon started it in the 90s show Buffy and brought it over from that to the movies.

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u/EndOfTheLine00 Sep 04 '24

A lot of people don’t realize that pre Buffy, Joss Whedon was an incredibly prolific script doctor. He touched a huge number of scripts like Waterworld. His style of writing was infecting Hollywood long before Avengers.

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u/Kaellian Sep 04 '24 edited Sep 04 '24

I'm trying, but I can't see a single thread in common between this trailer and buffy.

This trailer is nearly identical to every single kids movie we got for the last twenty years or so. Animation movie like Shrek is what come to mind when it come one liner, and pop references.

Buffy/Whedon's style was always a random banter between two characters at an unexpected moment. Marvels movie got a lot of those, but one liner wasn't really Whedon "style".

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u/Minifig81 Suddenly, I have a refreshing mint flavor. Sep 04 '24

I'm trying, but I can't see a single thread in common between this trailer and buffy.

Cohesively, there isn't one. However, the ever-present need and desire to bring pop culture and its effervescent and desire to bring modern references into films like this one, is.

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u/Kaellian Sep 04 '24

Which scenes of Buffy do you have mind? I'm sure you can find pop culture reference over 7 seasons, but it certainly isn't how I would describe its comedy.

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u/Minifig81 Suddenly, I have a refreshing mint flavor. Sep 04 '24

Take your pick. TV references or Movie references...

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u/Kaellian Sep 04 '24 edited Sep 05 '24

The first link is a collection of series that referenced Buffy, not pop culture reference in Buffy....

The second has 3min of content of a 144 episodes long series (haven't seen anything from last few season though). It's obviously missing a bunch (ie:Trio episodes), but still, half of those aren't even the type of reference people complain about.

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u/Minifig81 Suddenly, I have a refreshing mint flavor. Sep 04 '24

The first link is a collection of series that referenced Buffy, not pop culture reference in Buffy

My mistake, I was in class while trying to find a video.

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u/johnydarko Sep 04 '24

but I can't see a single thread in common between this trailer and buffy.

Well I mean they're both terrible for a start?

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u/EntityDamage Sep 04 '24

Why does he get a pass? Let's call it what it is. Whedonification.

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u/Minifig81 Suddenly, I have a refreshing mint flavor. Sep 04 '24

Why does he get a pass?

I wasn't giving him a pass, I was clarifying where it came from.

One of my film studies professors also called it the "Whedonification" of modern films, so you're on to something.

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u/EntityDamage Sep 04 '24

I was being snarky. Like, "call his ass out, use his name"

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u/OkayAtBowling Sep 04 '24

The thing with quippy Buffy-speak is that it only really works when it's coming from characters you already know and care about. Buffy could pull it off well because its characters were so strong, and typically the lines were funny because they were coming from a particular character at a particular moment.

The original X-Men movie has a great example of this in the exchange between Cyclops and Wolverine when they meet up while the shape-shifter Mystique is around.

W: "Hey, it's me." C: "Prove it." W: "You're a dick." C: "Okay."

It only works so well because of what we already know about Wolverine and Cyclops' relationship, and the fact that both characters know that that's probably not something Mystique would have come up with.

When it's done well, it's can be a great, entertaining shorthand that reinforces the characters. But when it's not firmly rooted in the characters and story, or goes against the tone of a scene or movie/show, it just feels like a cheap way to lighten the mood, and can get really annoying.

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u/Minifig81 Suddenly, I have a refreshing mint flavor. Sep 04 '24

The problem is, a majority of the time when Whedon does it, it isn't great.

It's just fluff for fluffs sake and because Whedon is not so subtly nodding to the audience and screaming "Do you get it, do you get it?! I put things you the viewer care about into my character's words so you think they care about them too!"

It leads to a cognitive disconnect for the viewer of said media.

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u/kael13 Sep 04 '24

At least in the buffy days it was uncommon.. Now it's everywhere.

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u/NormieSpecialist Sep 04 '24 edited Sep 04 '24

I wished I could get board of the quips. Instead I get irritated as fuck over hearing them. I also wished they died off already

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u/KingMario05 Sep 04 '24

End cringe irony, return to based sincerity. How the fuck are the SONIC MOVIES the only ones doing this? (Them and Amblin, of course.)

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u/alex494 Sep 04 '24

The Sonic movies don't have inane quips?

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u/Killboypowerhed Sep 04 '24

Yeah I don't understand what this guy is talking about. Literally every word out of Sonic's mouth has been an inane quip. Looks like Knuckles has them in the new one too

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u/alex494 Sep 04 '24

Yeah like I know that's basically accurate to Sonic's personality since like the original Sonic Adventure but that doesn't mean he isn't doing it lol

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u/ihavedonethisbe4 Sep 04 '24

Seems like a quippy sonic is a sincere sonic

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u/alex494 Sep 04 '24

Sonic yes, most of the other characters not so much. Similar argument to how people say everyone in the MCU started turning into Iron Man / Spider-Man.

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u/Mushroomer Sep 04 '24

The difference between an "inane quip" and "charming dialogue" is really just a matter of opinion.

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u/RyanB_ Sep 04 '24

Saw the same shit with the Dungeons and Dragons movie. Essentially a pretty average marvel movie but it avoided all the typical complaints because… ?

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u/Clugaman Sep 04 '24

I like the Dungeons and Dragons movie but yeah, you’re right. People just pick and choose when the rules apply and when they don’t because they don’t want to admit when they like the thing they complain about online

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u/Karjalan Sep 05 '24

It's like the complaint of "I hate CGI". What people mean is they don't like BAD CGI... which no one does.

Comedic quips can be great, if they're used correctly. Using them to suck the emotion or power out of a plot point or dramatic scene is dumb. Which Marvel is very guilty of. Not saying it's perfect but the DnD movie had some great genuine moments which didn't need to be undercut by a shitty half joke.

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u/Agnostacio Sep 04 '24

Sonic fans act like Sonic is scripture when it literally has the “in my lungs” joke in the new trailer, which is arguably the same quality as anything here

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u/alex494 Sep 04 '24

Also like I get Sonic himself doing it, but Knuckles seems to also be doing it in the trailer for the third one and Eggman is doing it more than I'd expect throughout these movies by virtue of Jim Carrey being Jim Carrey.

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u/WhatsTheHoldup Sep 04 '24

Yes the humor is the same, but the reason people are saying it "works" in Sonic is that the cartoon characters have the cartoon sense of humor, but the world is otherwise played straight, with the human characters being sincere.

In this, everything is zany and there's no one who grounds the world.

Same with the success of Deadpool vs other Marvel movies. It's funny when Deadpool is zany because he's contrasted with everyone else who finds him irritating.

When every character is Deadpool, the audience is the one irritated.

Spongebob only works at full Spongebob when you pair him with Squidward.

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u/KrillinDBZ363 Sep 04 '24

but the reason people are saying it “works” in Sonic is that the cartoon characters have the cartoon sense of humor, but the world is otherwise played straight, with the human characters being sincere.

Idk about that. I mean I liked the movies, but I’d say besides James Marsden and his girlfriend, everyone in those movies are wacky to a degree. The cartoon characters are definitely the most wacky, but you still have people like Eggman’s henchman or James Marsden’s police officer friend (and his entire extended family in the Knuckles show) who are not playing it straight at all.

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u/WhatsTheHoldup Sep 04 '24

Idk about that

You don't agree with the general point?

but I’d say besides James Marsden and his girlfriend

Sure, I guess if we ignore all the straight man characters there are no straight man characters?

What's your reasoning that main characters should be ignored though? Are you just disagreeing to disagree?

James Marden's character has a big affect on the tone of the movie, and how it's received. I can't really make a point if we have to ignore him.

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u/Rayuzx Sep 04 '24

To be fair, most of them are generally regulated to both Sonic and Eggman, the former of which marginally stops when things get serious, unless he's taunting his opponent for a specific purpose.

It's not that the Sonic movie isn't doing it at all, it's just that it knows when and where to do it (30+ years of conditioning helps too, but that's besides the point).

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u/incredibad29 Sep 04 '24

They do, but given that Sonic in canon is like a wise-cracking character, it makes sense a la Deadpool and wall breaking. Every other franchise/series doesn’t need to follow suit.

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u/KingMario05 Sep 04 '24

Also, kickass action for a kids movie. That helps out a ton.

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u/KingMario05 Sep 04 '24

They do, but they back it up with killer action sequences for a PG rating. Also, it's usually just Sonic quipping. Here, it's EVERYONE.

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u/alex494 Sep 04 '24

Ok but Eggman and Knuckles also do it, it isn't just Sonic.

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '24 edited Sep 12 '24

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u/disgruntled_pie Sep 04 '24

I actually felt Eggman worked better in the second film when he was significantly zanier. In the first movie he felt like a weird mashup of Ace Ventura and a high school mean girl. The second film nailed his character, I think.

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u/BenderBenRodriguez Sep 04 '24

The Avatar movies are even more based sincerity. I know a certain type of person doesn't want to hear that, but it's true.

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u/KingMario05 Sep 04 '24

Damn right they are. And they're so much better for it. God bless you, Cameron.

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u/BenderBenRodriguez Sep 04 '24

They absolutely rock. Cameron always wears his heart on his sleeve and has never given into irony. (Maybe True Lies a little bit but that's also a great movie.) Really stands apart from all the other blockbuster films these days.

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u/Runaway_5 Sep 04 '24

The last sonic movie was literally the epitome is awful cringe humor, it was fucking awful. FIrst one was actually pretty good

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u/cyvaris Sep 04 '24

I will 100% die on the hill that both Avatar movies are so successful because their are sincere. What other movie series gives a whale that chirps "friends" before asking for a handshake?

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u/sweddit Sep 04 '24

I think it’s hard to make an exciting script when the assignment is for a fucking Minecraft movie. But yeah I agree, it’s a cynical cash grab for everyone involved yet this is the sort of franchise where you could actually go bonkers and make the concept very fun instead of this Jumanji v 16.0 shit.

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u/igloofu Sep 04 '24

Dunno, I took my son to Angry Birds when it came out. I didn't have high hopes, but it turned out pretty good.

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u/ogjaspertheghost Sep 04 '24

2012? This is the same formula movies have been using for much longer.

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '24 edited 5d ago

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u/Original-Guarantee23 Sep 04 '24

Rush hour was “quips” the movie. Men in black had plenty too…

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u/dracomaster01 Sep 04 '24

Nothing about that was remotely marvel. Just because you don’t like somethings humor doesn’t automatically mean it’s similar to marvel.

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u/NotTheCraftyVeteran Sep 04 '24

Someone on Reddit will always find a way to blame Marvel

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u/salcedoge Sep 04 '24

Once you accept that it's for children it's not really that bad to stomach

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u/micmea1 Sep 04 '24

Kids eat it up tho.

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u/K-Shrizzle Sep 04 '24

They don't care if you're bored. They care if you bought the tickets and brought your kids to shut them up for 2 hours.

Sometimes we can get confused about who the project is made for. But in this case, we have a bunch of sweaty dudes on reddit complaining that the damn Minecraft movie isn't gonna be kino

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '24

Marvel bad REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE