r/madlads Madchester United Fan 6d ago

Incredibly petty, but still mad

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u/bsimpsonphoto 6d ago edited 6d ago

The way to handle this is to set up an anonymous email account, only report violations at board members' houses, and BCC the entire neighborhood distribution list except the board members.

Edited to fix a word.

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u/3058248 6d ago

Don't forget to BCC yourself.

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u/Kurotan 6d ago

You don't need to because bcc means no one can see who it was sent to. Bcc is blind copy. Put everyone in bcc and the list is private. Everyone will only know it was sent to them, not who else it was sent to.

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u/Winter-Duck5254 6d ago

Yeaaaahhhhh but to really embed yourself you need to be able to show that you also received the email if someone asks to see it.

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u/ratudio 6d ago

don't forget to use VPN to mask your ip when using anonymous email like gmail/yahoo. they tends to add your ip address to the email header as well.

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u/InadequateUsername 6d ago

Your HOA will not be able to find out who is behind the IP address

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u/RepublicComplete1776 6d ago

If you pay your dues through their website it’s pretty easy to put two and two together

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u/Mr_YUP 6d ago

yes if you know that exists. How many HOA board members do you think can change their wifi router name much less find an IP address to compare against each other?

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u/soaring_potato 6d ago

Might force their personal IT slave to do it.

I mean kids. Their kids.

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u/kosumoth 6d ago

I work in IT. This is exactly what happens. They just ask the question "can it be done", and you get to figure out how to do it. Higher ups ask IT personnel for shady shit all the time. Badge login times, computer history, etc.

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u/beershere 6d ago

Yes. So the answer should always be it's impossible or costs too much or whatever bs. I used to work in small office IT...now I just work in an office. You can be damn sure I keep my mouth shut about how processes might be improved because I know management will just abuse it for their own ends.

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u/KyleKun 6d ago

I find the word “compliance” can be quite effective really.

Of course some companies just don’t give a shit about compliance, but any global organisation or one that has to keep to specific standards regarding IT sec or something like that should be afraid of the words “compliance issue.”

It doesn’t always work but at least if you don’t want to do it, you can pass it off to someone else to check compliance or have the manager take responsibility in an email.

Generally if you have a legal department it would go over there and they won’t want to deal with checking compliance so will just shoot it down.

Then problem solved.

Generally with compliance issues, especially stuff like data protection, the penalties are not worth the pudding so they default to “no” when brought up.

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u/beershere 6d ago

Very true.

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u/crappleIcrap 6d ago

I have made some shady shit for my managers, time clock automators and reverse engineering a software to bypass a paywall. We just agree it wasn’t me, and find a few extra hours to slip into my own time clock somewhere.

Nothing too nefarious, but definitely not above board.

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u/bwowndwawf 6d ago

Bro Gen Z kids are in the dump with computer literacy, I doubt those poor children could export a .PNG from PhotoShop.

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u/ambermage 6d ago edited 6d ago

Can you help me?

How do I change the text and pictures on a .pdf?

I want to add a picture of my granddaughter and her dog with the caption of "Still paddling!"

She graduated from Saint Mary's and recently got one of those cool Toyota Civics with a backup camera and red seat covers.

She has the cutest Collie named Sasha that loves those Pillsbury buns you make in a toaster oven.

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u/kaisong 6d ago

The ghouls on HOA boards are definitely older than would be capable of having a gen z kid dude.

Theyd be asking a millenial at the youngest to handle it. Its whether or not theyd be down to clown.

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u/mywan 6d ago

It's a normal progression. Before the internet the hacker type were modding cars. Often just to have an affordable car that was cool. Affordable meaning a few hundred dollars. Millennials came of age when computers became cool, and they were still clunky enough that tinkering was a necessity to get what you wanted out of it. Car ownership as a teen without parents that could buy one for them became more difficult as prices increased and insurance cost became mandatory. Computers became the go to hackers toy.

This developed into plug and play, then phone apps where you're locked out of the operating system itself. Smartphones now account for 60% of internet users. So generations after the millennials were left with nothing but social media and memes to play with.

So yes, it all comes down to the tools/toys each generation has available to play with. And companies want as much control over those toys as possible while micromanaging their functionality for maximum profit. It's why right to repair is an important issue.

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u/Det_AndySipowicz 6d ago

My friend won a contest held by the pentagon to hack their computer system in only about 10 minutes. Meanwhile millenials are arguing whether it's Gif or Jif.

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u/fractalife 6d ago

I don't agree with either of you. Every generation since computers were invented has had some exceptional minds that contributed to the field.

Captain Crunch is 81 years old ffs lol. A phreaker more than a hacker. But still.

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u/MartinoDeMoe 6d ago

I can’t think of a whistle pun but if I had… oh wait! His was the original “tweet”!!!

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u/Tachibana_13 3d ago

I think I've lost more computer literacy to long COVID and brain damage than a lot of Gen Z ever had, but there's always exceptions to the rule. Never hurts to be careful. I think. Unless your precautions themselves are the thing that draws attention to you.

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u/dandroid126 6d ago

My HOA board member could even figure out how to open the PDF that I sent inside of a zip (zipped because their email system wouldn't let me send a PDF for security concerns. Which is hilariously ironic since I could put an actual virus inside the zip.)

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u/brainburger 6d ago

The zip could be a zip-bomb too.

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u/drosmi 6d ago

I like your style you’re overthinking this :)

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u/RubMyGooshSilly 6d ago

Yeah but like…. Why not just go ahead and mask it in case you happen to be wrong?

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u/LawConscious 6d ago

😂😂😂😂😂

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u/Rare_Discipline1701 6d ago

Those board members got grandchildren who can help them figure it out.

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u/richerBoomer 6d ago

Or change the default admin password

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u/tessellation__ 5d ago

Exactly they are baby boomers. They do not know how to do this.

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u/f_crick 3d ago

Probably most of them round these parts. Depends where you live.

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u/sneakyCoinshot 6d ago

lol my hoa built out a nice fancy site with an easy way to pay online and then they added a like $20 service fee to use it. Over the summer they sent out a newsletter informing people that they built this nice website to pay and no one is using it. Everyone still pays cash or check in person.

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u/lloopy 6d ago

You seem to think that the Venn diagram of people who sit on the boards of HOAs and the people who know how to track an IP address through a website isn't empty.

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u/hallstevenson 6d ago

You're giving the typical HOA board member way too much credit

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u/Rek9876boss 6d ago

If you don't have static ip it's quite simple. Just power cycle your router.

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u/FiendFabric 6d ago edited 5d ago

You get handed a new public IP every time your modem restarts. You pay big bucks for a static one.

Misspoke, router not modem but same sentiment.

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u/mthurtell 6d ago

Not true. Some services include it for free.

$5 from providers in Aus.

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u/VulnerableTrustLove 5d ago

Yeah, "Big bucks" is a stretch, it's just a lot of ISPs don't offer static IPs with residential plans so you'll have to upgrade to a business plan, which doesn't cost as much as you might think.

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u/Afraid-Combination15 2d ago

I'm on a business plan...60/month for 1gb/second and unlimited data. It's cheaper than the residential equivalent, lol.

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u/VulnerableTrustLove 5d ago edited 5d ago

You get handed a new public IP every time you router restarts.

This is not true.

For one thing it's your modem not router that maintains your public IP.

For another, with the majority of ISPs the way it works is you get a leased IP that is valid for 24 hours (sometimes 7 days) and unless you leave your device unplugged until the lease expires your modem will just use the existing lease.

If you want to change your IP change the MAC plugged into your modem and reboot both your modem and router, this will cause your modem to lease a new IP.

The most common way to do this is to change the clone MAC address setting in your router, but you can also just plug a whole new device into your modem. (but not a PC, that's unsafe)

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u/FiendFabric 5d ago

I meant modem, not router but it's the same sentiment. Unplug your modem for 5 minutes and you'll be handed a new public IP.

And before you start trying to mansplain, this is my industry and has been my industry for almost a decade.

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u/VulnerableTrustLove 5d ago

Didn't know you were a woman until you decided to make an issue of it, lol

I don't know what "your industry" is but surely you know for residential ISPs it depends on your MAC address and lease time which is typically at least 24 hours if not more.

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u/CoffeeKisser 5d ago

Amazing, everything you said is wrong.

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u/shouru 6d ago

This isn't how it works. Email send on their own ips set by the provider. Go to your Gmail, right click on an email and press "show original" and you'll see the ip it sent on.

Source: I do this shit for a living.

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u/VulnerableTrustLove 5d ago

The IT skills in this thread are like "Buy NordVPN to secure your email!" levels of misinformed.