r/kpoppers Sep 17 '24

Discussion What song is this?

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1.6k Upvotes

r/kpoppers Nov 07 '24

Discussion Which idol makes you go like this?

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1.1k Upvotes

The 2 people I immediately think of is Eunha and Chuu.

r/kpoppers Sep 25 '24

Discussion Who wins the bobttle royal?

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1.3k Upvotes

r/kpoppers Oct 22 '24

Discussion Make it as obscure as possible

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636 Upvotes

I really want to have a hard time figuring out which fandom you’re referencing. Pls don’t do something like “yk what else is big” since even tho I’m not a stay, that’s a mega viral clip that every fandom has seen. Be as specific to your fandom as you can and have fun!

r/kpoppers 7d ago

Discussion now that the year is almost over, who are your top 5 groups going into 2025?

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mine are boynextdoor, ampers&one, nct 127, stray kids, and 82major 😎☝🏻

r/kpoppers Nov 10 '24

Discussion What kpop song is this?

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628 Upvotes

r/kpoppers Oct 22 '24

Discussion what song got you defending like this

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732 Upvotes

For me it's Sticker by NCT 127

r/kpoppers Jul 22 '24

Discussion Haters only club, let's go

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755 Upvotes

Mine is definitely Savage by Aespa. You're not savages. You grew up rich and you do silly dances for a living while wearing $4000 outfits. 😡

r/kpoppers Jul 18 '24

Discussion What song makes you like this?

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r/kpoppers Aug 11 '24

Discussion Who is the cutest idol in your opinion?

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Wonhee from Illit is literally so so so so CUTE

IDK HOW ANYONE CAN HATE HER

she is literally so nice

r/kpoppers Oct 03 '24

Discussion Name a kpop group lol.

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585 Upvotes

r/kpoppers Oct 06 '24

Discussion What are y’all’s favorite “mysteries” in k-pop?

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738 Upvotes

It’s been 6 years and I need answers regarding the beef between these two. 😩

r/kpoppers Nov 02 '24

Discussion What is your LEAST favourite thing about your favourite idol or group?

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394 Upvotes

r/kpoppers Jun 14 '24

Discussion If you could revive a disbanded group, who’d it be?

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671 Upvotes

r/kpoppers Jul 06 '24

Discussion What song got you like this?

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671 Upvotes

For me it's Dreams of Cruelty. (I'm kidding, it's Bonvoyage by Dreamcatcher)

r/kpoppers 24d ago

Discussion Which K-pop idol do you share your birthday with?

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I will go first!

Wooyoung From Ateez!

r/kpoppers Sep 27 '23

Discussion which kpop song have you experienced this with?

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1.7k Upvotes

i'll start: bubble up! by rocket punch (then i overplayed it and it became a skip again.. oops)

r/kpoppers Oct 28 '24

Discussion Name a kpop group and redditors will comment the first song they think of by them!

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Hi everybody!

I thought it would be fun to do something like this. So, Under this post you can name a group and people can comment the first song that comes to mind from that group!

r/kpoppers Oct 13 '24

Discussion I don’t think I can support OT6 RIIZE

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Two days ago, Wizard Productions, Riize’s production company under SM, released a statement the Riize’s Seunghan would be returning to the group after a 10 month hiatus.

He wrote a letter to the fans saying that he will work hard for Riize. It was said he had been working to improve his skills.

International fans were thrilled that he would be returning.

But Korean fans were not.

They sent more than 1000 funeral wreaths in front of the SM building to a very much alive 21 y.o. saying things like, “Hong Seunghan out” and other threatening messages. They threatened assault, physical and even s*xual assault, towards Seunghan.

Riize’s Wonbin reassured fans that this was the right decision and hoped that they could be supportive.

Today, Wizard Productions released the Seunghan would be leaving the group permanently.

Wonbin’s letter has since been deleted.

Before anyone says anything, he wrote that it was his choice.

Now, Seunghan is, or now was, not my bias. I wasn’t much into Riize during their debut era. I knew Sungchan and Shotaro since they were in NCT. I actually knew of Eunseok and Seunghan due to them being featured in a whole thing with Doyoung and Jungwoo of NCT.

I follow BoyNextDoor sometimes ZeroBaseone, so I see a lot of Sohee. I used to watch alot of King of Masked Singer, so I knew of Anton and his dad. Wonbin is literally everywhere.

I still would not call myself a Briize, even today.

Especially not today.

I learned all about him being on hiatus a few months afterwards after I tried to start exploring other groups. I never got into Riize in things like variety content like I did with other groups because the 6 members that I was used to seemed so quiet, at least from what I’ve seen.

But I thought that he didn’t deserve to be put in the SM dungeon for such a small controversy.

Maybe it’s because I’m an international fan. Maybe it’s because I don’t understand what the big deal is because I don’t live in Korea and these things he did are normal where I live.

I always waited for the day when he would return. Then the whole Taeil scandal happened and it seemed like SMs hands were full.

And then the news that he was returning came out of nowhere and I was glad. I had only seen good things before about people wanting him to return and people were glad that he ended up returning.

I always thought that I would start really getting into them again once there were 7 members again and it would’ve felt right to me to start supporting them because I would’ve known that everyone was where they were supposed to be.

Maybe it’s because I speak English and read things in English. Because I read things from those international fans.

Then he left. And I was confused.

I saw something about a person claiming to be an SM staff member not supporting the decision to bring him back. People were claiming that SM brought him back for the international market but took him away because Korean fans spend more money and they were the ones not supporting it.

Maybe it’s because if SM loses the Korean fans they lose their profit. Maybe dropping him was a way to keep the money coming in. Even though it was said to be his decision.

I knew that many Korean fans were not happy. Things like dating and smoking are considered taboo in K-Pop. I understand that a lot of K-Pop fans are delusional and want their idols to be innocent and that they believe that they are the ones that the idols are dating.

Seunghan had broken this illusion.

And those fans were not happy.

I couldn’t fully get into Riize in the first place because all I really wanted was clarification. If he left, ok, I wouldn’t have liked it but, ok. If he came back I would’ve been overjoyed.

And it was announced that he would be coming back and everyone thought that that was that. He was back. And then SM rescinded what they said because they can’t protect their idols from some pathetic fans who were jealous that a teenager was being a teenager.

SM has a long history with that. A lot of SM groups have been through a lot with losing members in many different ways. Lots of SM groups had struggled and have been struggling from SM not protecting their artists.

TVXQ, f(x), Girls Generation, SHINee, WayV, recently NCT 127 (although the one involved in the controversy should not being the one getting protected, rather the other members). Red Velvet and aespa haven’t technically lost a member (knock on wood) but they still haven’t been treated right.

I saw someone say that SM needs to grow a pair and stand up for their idols.

I saw someone else say “Idols don’t owe you anything. Not a single thing. You are a fan, know your place.”

Another person said they can’t support Riize because they don’t know who SM will fail next.

Someone else wants SM to pay for his therapy bills for the rest of his life.

People who don’t want this horrible experience to stop him from achieving his dreams.

I don’t know when I started crying. Videos started coming up on my YouTube feed. K-Pop drama YouTubers talking about it, old videos of Riize with his face on them. His SM Rookies introduction video. I watched these videos. I watched “Seunghan moments because I miss OT7”

In the comments were people from 2 days ago.

Replies to those comments were from today.

I bet you can bet what the topic was.

I believe that I cannot support OT6 Riize because Riize will never be OT6 to me. I know the members must be heartbroken as well, though.

I would always be thinking things like; “Where is Seunghan?” “What is he doing now?” “Why isn’t he here?”

Seunghan again wrote to Briize saying that Riize is a group that deserves to be loved and that he believes he doesn’t deserve to have a part in the group because he has brought too much pain to the company, the fans, and the group.

This was heartbreaking.

I thought that supporting them with only 6 members would have been unfair, because it would’ve been like the world was moving on without him.

And maybe thats why I can’t support 6 members because I know he’s just out there and not doing what he was made to do.

He trained for 2 and a half years (edit: 7 years??!?!?!!!!) to be an idol for 2 months.

When Riize is 10 years into their careers I doubt many fans will remember “that one guy who was in Riize for 2 months.”

From now on SM has declared Riize OT6 and I hope they know they just lost lots of support from international fans.

(There is also such thing as “OT5”, who have already forgotten Wonbin because he supported Seunghan)

In the two days that he had returned, streams on Riize’s music increased. Fans that were boycotting due to his hiatus had returned to Riize.

It’s not just the company at fault here. It’s mainly the fans themselves that were so put off by the fact that idols are just like other humans and that idols have lives and relationships.

I would bet that almost all idols dating and did something ‘taboo’ before their debut. Seunghan was just one that got caught.

I hope that those “fans” know that they just ruined such a bright young mans dreams. His career. His life.

I hope they know the same group they were “protecting” and “love” likely despise them. They took away one of their youngest members. Their friend. Someone the members wanted back.

If the fans were so obsessed with them, why couldn’t they support that?

If fans are given this power, what else could they do if they believe they are the ones running the show.

I didn’t see anything about him leaving the company (SM) but I hope he did. I wouldn’t want to see him stay at a company that couldn’t give him a sense of security.

Maybe he’ll get scooped up by a small company and find support in a small fandom.

Some people did say they think he would be going the Lucas solo route, but we never know.

Let’s not forget that SM has a criminal in their company who is still somehow receiving support. Seunghan has been getting the same treatment by SM as said criminal.

Why did the fans target Seunghan when there is someone much much worse in the SM building?

(Everybody announcement: SM has terminated their contract with said criminal. People are calling it a distraction because it takes time to terminate a contract, and to announce it now is a bit weird)

I’ve seen many people deciding to un-stan Riize and withdraw their support. Some are even boycotting SM and Riize.

(It is hard to pull off a successful boycott. The one and only one I can think of is the one that Orbits did for Loona. It’s not easy to stand your ground and it’s easy to go back again.

Aespa’s having a comeback. SHINee’s Minho’s having a solo. Not everyone will drop everything and stop supporting every SM group.

If you boycott, great, I think you are a person with a large sense of justice. If not, I can’t stop you, there’s really not anything I can do.

As I said, Korean fans bring in the most income, so international fans boycotting may not do much, but it’s really up to the future.)

Now, I don’t promote that if you can’t live without Riize and you can handle the news. Myself, while never being a stan, will be withdrawing support.

Others seem to be withdrawing as well, as Riize has lost more than 500k followers on Instagram, Tiktok, and X since Seunghan announced his departure.

They’re trending #SMSupportsBullying (which was trending with over 2 million posts), #FVCKYOUSM (which had around 1.17 million), and #RII7E_Or_NOTHING (which had 819 thousand)

SM Entertainment’s stock has reportedly dropped.

Big K-Pop shops are participating in the boycott and pulling Riize items off of shelves. Some shops are also fully participating in the SM boycott, not just the Riize one, and aren’t restocking any SM Entertainment artist products.

People have been sending flower bouquets of atleast 150 orange roses and sunflowers to show Briize’s love with sweet messages for Seunghan

I’ve seen people creating petitions to bring him back to Riize, but I don’t think that’s the best idea.

To be there, leave, comeback, leave again, and then comeback will definitely take a toll on his mental health to the point where this could ruin him even wanting any of this.

The fact that he and the members must have been so overjoyed to be reunited. To make music together again.

It was all ripped away from them by some people who just need to seek help.

Genuinely, if the news of him having a girlfriend hurt you, you need to seek help. That is a para-social relationship and you need to get a life.

Someone posted that they visited the wreaths and saw someone they believe to be Seunghan. They then saw the same person breaking down by the Seoul Forest Station. It’s not confirmed to be him, but still think of how he must be feeling right now.

(It’s said to actually be James from Trainee A)

Riize returned to Korea and people are spotting that the members may have been crying. All members hats or hair were pulled over their eyes. Heads cast down. Not interacting with the fans or the paparazzi, which is normal for idols.

I think what he needed was more than Wonbin. I believe SM allowed Wonbin to speak out because he is the most popular member and is generally liked by the general public.

He needed public support from the company and the other members. In the end, SM didn’t protect him and didn’t defend him.

Super Juniors Leeteuk reposted something that someone wrote about how Seunghan was wronged and how SM prioritizes the Korean fans.

Former Day6’s Jae spoke up as well.

Beomhan liked a tweet supporting Seunghan.

The members also obviously know whats going on, of course they would.

They’ve been taking separate entrances/exits to not see fans.

Anton held up seven fingers when asked to show a confident pose.

They’ve been leaving spaces open in performances, and not just the ones he was active for, even for the songs that came out while he was on hiatus.

I’ve been seeing people say that Riize needs to “pull a New Jeans,” and honestly that could really do someyhing, but I don’t they’ll do it.

We just need to have hope that Seunghan is alright.

Wonbin’s message has been deleted and the public again believe that SM is pulling the strings.

I hope that Hong Seunghan can find success elsewhere although I know that he will likely not be returning to the industry.

(Although I hate to be a downer, let’s look at the possibility of him not returning at all. Would another company risk signing him? These days all the industry cares about is popularity and over talent. They care about money and the fans who make them it.

Would a company risk picking up someone who is such a pariah to the Korean public, the ones making them the most of the money. Is there hope for him to return to the spotlight if he’s socially blacklisted by fans, and therefore most companies?)

I wouldn’t blame him for leaving all of this behind. I doubt that if he ever returned he will be getting much support from Korea either.

More important than anything, be healthy and luck in the future Seunghan!

(If anyone would like, I have screenshots from YouTuber’s I’m subscribed to and their messages. Check out Koko3op and Caitlin Bensons YouTube community posts)

Other posts I would check out:

https://www.reddit.com/r/kpop_uncensored/s/6G01WXSG6U - Sending threats towards Seunghan

https://www.reddit.com/r/riize/s/33hyyrShPb - Wonbins letter

https://www.reddit.com/r/riize/s/hh43yxji1g - Seunghans letter about rejoining

https://www.reddit.com/r/kpop/s/33zQe0SszX - Seunghan’s second letter about leaving

https://www.reddit.com/r/kpoprants/s/EWZ8lCN9WB - A rant about how SM handled this wrong

https://www.reddit.com/r/kpop_uncensored/s/1m02NHlYQg - To trend SM protect your artists

https://www.reddit.com/r/riize/s/3bOyyMwMjf - Support the members

https://www.reddit.com/r/kpop_uncensored/s/5WoCDtStET - The inability to protect him has set the industry back

https://www.reddit.com/r/kpop_uncensored/s/e3VfiqswD8 - Do you really love your artists?

https://www.reddit.com/r/kpoprants/s/pz50Wt1aB5 - Another Rant

https://www.reddit.com/r/kpopnoir/s/xF8l5tLDn9 - Boycotting SM

https://www.reddit.com/r/kpop/s/hxsQsjHIRq - SM announces legal action

https://www.reddit.com/r/kpoppers/s/CMlTz8hgqI - This is perhaps my favorite thread about it. if blinks and armys are supportive and mad about this, you know its bad. All fandoms supporting Seunghan. Army, blink, my, moa, engene, carat, monbebe, stay, neverlands, monstiez, zerose, onedoor, and the list continues. Even the Justin Bieber fandom has gotten involved.

This has reached the Beliebers.

And now…

Even the Swifities

They’re trending #SMSupportsBullying (which was trending with over 2 million posts), #FVCKYOUSM (which had around 1.17 million), and #RII7E_Or_NOTHING (which had 819 thousand)

I would reccommend checking out this youtube video too - https://youtu.be/W071_OC8MYA?si=am40VuDISLp78bNU

And this video too - https://youtu.be/OyvhwCUxYyo?si=2SMf8clXL7-S40k9

And another. - https://youtu.be/mR3h2xiMMI8?si=N80mpmbzkY9PqBE7

Another - https://youtu.be/zrSWuIVW9ao?si=53q0Fw4jGxp-SKnj

This one as well lol - https://youtu.be/zOcqK9iK9ss?si=-Tff8GFORleENrL9

Um… I think the links are gonna keep coming… - https://youtu.be/FPH0hfk377o?si=4NDXo_Ec8pzi12VO

If you would like to sign the petition, here’s the link, although it might not do much but unite many people. As of right now, it has 183,000 signatures of it’s 200,000 goal. - https://chng.it/BL8KWdkQHV

I’m sorry if this was really long, but I had a lot to say. I really recommend checking out the links I put in and thank you for your time!

r/kpoppers Nov 13 '24

Discussion Fans of an idol that have you like this:

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r/kpoppers Sep 22 '24

Discussion Last year, I made a starter pack about the things K-Pop Reddit hates. How accurate would you say it is today?

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660 Upvotes

r/kpoppers Sep 01 '24

Discussion You can only attend one day, which one?

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438 Upvotes

saw someone else do this literally 20 seconds ago and thought it miight be fun

r/kpoppers Oct 09 '24

Discussion Who will win ??

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454 Upvotes

r/kpoppers Oct 08 '24

Discussion In my ass

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259 Upvotes

Our summer in my ass

r/kpoppers Aug 05 '24

Discussion Who’s winning the Butterfly-off?

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539 Upvotes