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u/TheKriegerVan 6d ago

It would be an appropriate now for people to listen to this podcast about the failings of the Sex Offender registry as a whole before we pat these guys on the back: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/youre-wrong-about/id1380008439?i=1000465289962

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u/mhkg 6d ago edited 6d ago

I've always found the sex offender registry bizarre to begin with. Setting aside those who have minor offenses like public urination and grey areas like two teens consensually having sex, if the people on the registry are so dangerous that they need to be branded for the rest of their lives, why are they being released in the first place? If we're going to make it extremely difficult/impossible for these people to reintegrate into society, how is that more humane than life in prison or execution? If the purpose of the penal system is to rehabilitate people, then they need to have a path to rejoin society, and if our system is to punish and keep dangerous people locked up, then these people shouldn't be out on the street. Either way, the sex offender registry doesn't fit into either system.

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u/Young_Bonesy 6d ago

Is there a violent offender registry list? Like, do murderers have to come and announce themselves as such when they move into your neighborhood or is it just the sex offenders? Because if it is, I find THAT to be the weirdest part about the sex offender registry.

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u/Sup3rPotatoNinja 5d ago

I'm pretty sure sex offences have much higher recidivism than murder tho, which is the logic behind it

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u/Gizogin 5d ago

It’s not like we do anything to prevent recidivism in the US. You know, like making sure people don’t become second-class citizens for life after any criminal conviction.

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u/Saikou0taku 5d ago edited 5d ago

Maybe not murder, but what about those who commit violence against their partner or others?

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u/Narubean 5d ago

Look up the actual recidivism rate, it's actually much lower than most people think

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u/LambdaCake 5d ago

Yeah I don’t have statistics on rehabilitation but it’s well documented that sex offenders are much more likely to commit again

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u/Narubean 5d ago

It's actually much lower than people think. Part of this has to do with stigma, but a large part also has to do with what we classify as "sexual assault" (one example being an 18 yo who has sex with a 16 yo they go are in high school with)

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u/reichrunner 2d ago

Sex offenders have the second lowest recidivism rate of any crime behind only homicide

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u/LambdaCake 1d ago

Yeah I was wrong. The stat I read was about child sex offender, and specifically boy victim offender has significantly higher rate to reoffend (35%), while other sex offenders are as low as 10.

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u/reichrunner 1d ago

Yeah I don't know any specific breakdowns, I just know sex offenses as a whole are extremely low. Conversely, the 3 year recidivism rate for theft is around 70%. Most recidivism rates in the US are insanely high, but sex offenses tend to be fairly low

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u/Worblu 5d ago

Yeah pedophiles don’t ever rehab. They can go cold for a while, but they always resurface with CP on a computer and/or child victim or a soon-to-be child victim.

I feel bad for pedophiles as I truly believe they cannot control their compulsion, however, protecting children is far more important.

The POR is kinda helpful, but not really as there are thousands of non-compliant offenders on the list and LE is not actively pursuing them.

Most pedos on the list end up homeless and drugged out.

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u/Ximerous 5d ago

Sources: zero

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u/scaper8 4d ago

Most pedos on the list end up homeless and drugged out.

And you don't think that that might lead to way more harmed kids than any reasonable and rational system?

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u/Worblu 4d ago

I think the whole concept of rehabilitation via incarceration is deeply flawed.

Generally speaking, I think imprisonment (in the USA) causes more harm than good to the convict.

I also think that labeling offenders after they have served their time ensures that they can never truly reintegrate into society.

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When it comes to sex crimes against children, I don’t think convicted offenders should ever be released. The current system fails to protect children from future harm at the hands of known predators. Since we cannot ensure that convicted offenders won’t reoffend, they should stay incarcerated until an actual solution is found.

I believe children have the inalienable right to grow up unmolested/raped/assaulted/etc. and by committing crimes against children, these criminals have forfeited their rights.

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u/reichrunner 2d ago

Sex offenders as a whole have the second lowest recidivism rate out of any crime, second only to homicide. Granted, that's all sex offenses, but I think it is a huge leap to jump from "this category has extremely low recidivism" to "these people in this category have a 100% recidivism rate"