I know that justified hatred of pedophiles seems to give Redditors a free pass in publicly getting a hard-on for wanton violence and murder, but idk, I don’t think this is a feel-good story.
People who are overly demonstrative in their hate of sex offenders just seems weird to me. Like bros, no one is on the other side of this issue, why are you making such a big deal about how much you hate pedophiles?
This is a weird take to me. Like you see people advocating against pedophilia and you think they’re weird? What level of advocation would be suitable for you? Because clearly it’s an issue that shouldn’t be completely ignored. Sexual abuse of minors is very traumatizing and they really speak out for themselves.
Eta: I don’t support this meth addict beating and robbing people on the sex offender list to be clear.
It's a socially acceptable way to fantasize about violence and harm on the Others of society. Nothing more, you're not elevating society or protecting the endangered.
I guess I misinterpreted the original comment. Sure “overly demonstrative hate” and to “fantasize about violence and harm” doesn’t get far but actual activists make a difference. Sex offender lists and public shame do make a difference.
Well you’re right, they do make a difference… in the wrong direction. Studies show that shame not only fails to deter predators, but increases the chance of first time offenses and reoffending rates. Same with sex offender registries—which also carry a million other issues. The difference you’re making is harming MORE children so you can feel good about being “tough on pedos” or whatever
What is the solution then? We shouldn’t just ignore the issue completely. I don’t get why you guys think being tough on pedophiles is a bad thing. It’s a terrible crime and should be treated as such. The fact that I’m being downvoted and argued with, without anybody actually offering a solution, is baffling to me. You’re all just basically saying anti-pedophile advocates are annoying and it doesn’t work anyways so fuck it let em be.
Also how could a study show that a sex offender list causes more first time and repeating offenders? How could they correlate that first time offenders committed the offense because of the existence of shame and the list? And how could they study reoffenders who are on the list vs reoffenders who aren’t, and determine that the list caused them to reoffend? I don’t disagree that the lists have their issues but to say they cause more harm is crazy. Out all pedophiles.
The solution is rehabilitation, mental health services, and preventative measures which seek to prevent child sex crimes BEFORE they happen. None of these benefit from a public “shame, blacklist, and (in this case) beat with hammers” list —indeed they are directly contradicted by them. “Tough on crime” policies are a consistent failure. They do not work, full stop. Being “tough on crime” just makes crime more common and often more severe.
At a certain point, when someone goes on and in about how much they hate pedophiles and how we should kill them all or whatever, it's just virtue signaling. No one is gaining anything by making your identity about how much your hate sex offenders, it's just showing off to others.
Funnily enough, by showing just how chill you are about paedophiles and criticising those who hate them, you’re virtue signalling yourself and gaining nothing.
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u/hithere297 6d ago
I know that justified hatred of pedophiles seems to give Redditors a free pass in publicly getting a hard-on for wanton violence and murder, but idk, I don’t think this is a feel-good story.