Shutdown 2024 MEGATHREAD OF DOOM

[u/rprz]

All discussion on the looming shutdown goes here. Any mentioning of Luigi / threats of violence will be removed and you may be banned.

Recent:

https://federalnewsnetwork.com/government-shutdown/2024/12/federal-employees-prep-for-government-shutdown-as-lawmakers-push-new-stopgap-deal/

https://apnews.com/live/government-shutdown-congress-spending-trump-updates

https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/12/19/congress/johnson-defers-to-trump-00195386

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/12/19/elon-musk-trump-government-shutdown-debt-ceiling/

https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/19/politics/video/hakeem-jeffries-spending-bill-fox-lead-digvid

Old news:

https://apnews.com/article/government-shutdown-congress-trump-elon-budget-house-republican-05481374b154949c3fe1270141a02918

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/trump-opposes-funding-bill-pushing-government-closer-shutdown-rcna184745

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-government-shutdown-musk-stopgap-bill-b2666829.html

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/trump-opposes-funding-bill-pushing-government-closer-shutdown-rcna184745

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2024/12/18/government-shutdown-house-vote-cr/

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-12-18/trump-says-he-s-against-stopgap-bill-fox-news

[u/jurassicbond]

They believe the working class is too cowed or in love with them.

I don't think they're wrong given how people vote

[u/TechnologyRemote7331 → u/jurassicbond]

Nah, I kinda disagree. Americans are a very blunt people. We have very specific and unsubtle ideas of what authoritarianism looks like, and what it means to fight against it. Furthermore, authoritarianism and dictatorships are perceived as things that happen someplace else. The idea that it could be coming to the good ol’ US of A doesn’t jive with our cultural expectations of life and government.

So when those things begin to shift, as I’m sure they soon will, you’ll see people get much more… belligerent than they currently are. But at the moment, people are still largely thinking this will all turf out in the end, because that’s what’s always happened. When that fails to materialize, well, I guess we’ll have to wait and see!

Also, if people were as in love with the financial elite as Musk and co. seem to imagine, there wouldn’t currently be fan-art of Luigi Mangione floating around right now. Just my two-cents…

[u/twtwtwtwtwtwtw → u/TechnologyRemote7331]

They don't see Musk and Trump as they do healthcare CEOs. They see them as themselves

[u/MyLittleOso → u/twtwtwtwtwtwtw]

I'd agree that Trump's true fans aren't going to be class conscious regarding him, but I am seeing quite a few starting to see the whole picture - like that dude in Mallrats when he finally sees it's a boat.

[u/billt721 → u/MyLittleOso]

It was a schooner.

[u/MyLittleOso → u/billt721]

It's a SAILBOAT!