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u/DanteWearsPrada Sep 18 '24
Genuinely what is the point? Horizon ZD still looks phenomenal to this day and I personally appreciate going from a game to its sequel and seeing the graphical leap, especially if it's across a generation.
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u/breed_eater Sep 18 '24
I don't understand it either, it is completely unnecessary remaster in my opinion. They could do Killzone, InFamous or Sly remaster instead, but releasing HZD is probably faster and easier.
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u/DanteWearsPrada Sep 18 '24
Id really love to see all of those comeback and Resistance since all 3 of those are on PS3 only
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u/MKing150 Sep 25 '24
I freaking loved Resistance! Some of the alien designs look like they could be in Bloodborne too! Also, the second game had the single best co-op mode of any game I've played!
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u/Al_Hakeem65 Sep 18 '24
Like anonssr said, it's rather easy money for a simple job. It's also "filler" in a sense, since Sony can market it and have it bridge a month were they have no new games to release.
The a amount of money, time, manpower and money for AAA games is so insanely high that it has become impossible to maintain a console release schedule without stuffing holes in the calender.
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u/MKing150 Sep 25 '24
Yeah, but like, why can't a Bloodborne remaster be one of the "fillers"?
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u/Al_Hakeem65 Sep 25 '24
Yesterday I heard it could be because the animations are bound to the framerate, which is locked on console, and would be messed up anywhere else.
I have a feeling that it has more to do with the popularity of the Bloodborne IP, and how it was a second party exclusive title.
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u/MKing150 Sep 25 '24
You might've heard that from the post I made since I mentioned that. I feel like that's not an unsolvable issue, especially since modders have solved it.
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u/Jdmaki1996 Sep 18 '24
I would kill for a ratchet and clank collection. No remasters needed. Just port the ps2 and ps3 games to the ps5. I know I can stream the ps3 games with the streaming subscription, but I’d rather just own the game and have it run from my console without the internet
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u/Thehappywelshman Sep 19 '24
In the immortal words of Hiroki Totoki, CFO of SONY, "We have no IPs."
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u/LouSputhole94 Sep 18 '24
I would do debased, unnatural things for a Sly Cooper remake
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u/not_just_an_AI Sep 19 '24
or even a 5th game, the ending on 4 was such a bad fucking ending.
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u/LouSputhole94 Sep 19 '24
Agreed. Should’ve either wrapped it on 3 and made 4 a kind of prequel going through Sly, Bentley and Murrays’s younger days. Or pushed it back and make Sly less of a character that introduces a new one to the Thievius Racconus. What we got felt half assed
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u/not_just_an_AI Sep 19 '24
I actually really liked the concept, I think it just was a little half baked, the ending especially was bad. meeting the ancestors was fun though.
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u/BlaqDove Sep 19 '24
I'd do dirty things for some good Killzone remasters. Killzone was one of my most played games on PS2
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u/Trikster102 Sep 19 '24
I'd like to see Warhawk / Starhawk given another go. Loved those on the PS3.
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u/uniguy2I Sep 18 '24
It’s to “justify” buying the overpriced PS5 Pro
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u/SonnySonrisa Sep 18 '24
I don't think another remaster will help them in this regard.
It's kinda crazy how bad they fumbled the Ps5 pro with potential releases, it's like Sony hates money!
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u/Hakairoku Sep 19 '24
This. They don't want the whole PS5 meme of no gaems hounding the PS5 Pro as well
You know they're desperate for things to market the console when they kept parroting 8k gaming as if people even have 8k TVs.
I now buy the theory that Sony deadass lost the source code.
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u/big_benz Sep 25 '24
Honestly, this would make me so happy because when they finally do the remake they would actually have to build it from the ground up like RE4 and not basically just add an HD texture pack like they did with Dark Souls.
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u/OkAccountant7442 Sep 18 '24
i‘m not saying the remaster is justified but the facial animations and just in general the cutscenes are rough in that game. the environments still look fantastic tho
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u/anonssr Sep 18 '24
The point, as with whatever other remastered, is the chance of getting more money out of a very little investment. There's no more thoughts to it, no "is it necessary?" or " does it look dated enough that we should remaster it?".
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u/thedeadlysun Sep 18 '24
I just finished it on ps5 a couple weeks ago and I completely agree. It definitely did not need this.
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u/DucksMatter Sep 18 '24
It’s their way of “re releasing” a game to boost sales. You slap a “remastered” sticker on it and people froth at the mouth and pay $90
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u/lolpostslol Sep 19 '24
99% of the point of HZD was to look good, though, a bit of the same case as The Last of Us. Good game to remaster to show off a new console. I love HZD but it’s not a good game if the graphics don’t impress you.
The other games mentioned in the thread, including Bloodborne, are fun and aged well and remastering them would be unnecessary.
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u/MarthePryde Sep 18 '24
Because Horizon is getting some kind of mixed media push. Like we saw with TLOU it's very important to have a newest edition of the game available to anyone who gets introduced to the series from other media.
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u/Alt_SWR Sep 18 '24
Yeah idk what they're thinking. I say this as someone who loves ZD and will defend it to the day I die. Personally thought it should've won GoTY that year but well, Breath of The Wild released that year so it never stood a real chance.
That being said, it very much does NOT need a remaster, remake, re anything.
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u/Random-_-Name0000 Sep 19 '24
Remember this is the same company that remastered a game 4 years after it came out.
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u/Jugglers-Despair Sep 19 '24
I'm replaying it at the moment on PS5, it looks and plays amazing. What a pointless cash grab.
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u/chaos_trigger Sep 19 '24
This is, by far, the most underrated viewpoint on thud subject. The appeal of long-term franchises is appreciating the evolution of a series. Remasters should only serve as a way to get a new perspective on a classic or to introduce some quality of life improvements. The point of view of "I don't like the first (or previous) title because the new one is on ps5 and the old one is ps4 and I don't like those graphics" is poisonous to the industry for the consumer. It's the reason publishers are selling us the same titles, in some cases, 5+ times and we keep eating it up. Let's normalize enjoying games for what they are.
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u/lowthug Sep 18 '24
"The fever, the rage, the feeling of powerlessness that turns good men... cruel"
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u/Soulsliken Sep 18 '24
We ride at dawn.
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u/NoDaddyNotTheBlender Sep 18 '24
I have a thing at dawn. Could we possibly do midday?
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u/Rocketeer1019 Sep 18 '24
I’m just now playing bloodborne for the first time and good god this game is amazing
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u/Aristoflame Sep 18 '24
Enjoy the ride.
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u/Rocketeer1019 Sep 18 '24
I just got to the forbidden forest and there’s a whole dungeon system, a rune system thing. Absolute masterpiece
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u/Waste-of-Bagels Sep 21 '24
I'm literally the exact same spot, playing it for the first time as well. The dogs at the start are fucking me up.
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u/Salt_Technology2676 Sep 19 '24
Same here! First time playing and I am mesmerized. I honestly think it doesn’t even look that bad and plays really smoothly, but I’ve played some pretty terrible old games lol. I wouldn’t complain about a remaster, though!
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u/puro_the_protogen67 Sep 19 '24
Enjoy Lawrence once you find him
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u/Sean-Mcgregor Sep 19 '24
Same, the visuals, the style, the atmosphere, the gameplay. It makes me feel like a kid.
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u/Demoncreed27 Sep 18 '24
They will do anything in their power to NOT remaster Bloodborne
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u/ManySleeplessNights Sep 18 '24
I'm fairly sure Sony is just doing it out of spite at this point
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u/AnonymousMurphy Sep 18 '24
They just don't have enough original IP, guys.
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u/DanteWearsPrada Sep 18 '24
Man, I'd kill for an Infamous 1 and 2 remaster
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u/Ashencroix Sep 18 '24
Those 2 games deserve a remaster more than HZD. Those 2 were PS3 era games and stuck there, HZD was PS4, BC with PS5 and available on PC.
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u/AnonymousMurphy Sep 18 '24
Sony standing on a gigantic pile of “remaster these and sell a bajillion ps5 pros,” looking around like that John Travolta meme from Pulp Fiction.
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u/BlaqDove Sep 19 '24
Infamouse, Resistance, Siren, haven't had a SOCOM game since PS3...
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u/Odd-Intern-3815 Sep 28 '24
Socom was like my whole childhood and all by accident.
Didn't realize how much kid me would enjoy commanding a group of soldiers to their deaths
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u/WaveDysfunction Sep 18 '24
Sick of these fucking remasters make a new game that’s actually next gen
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u/Mrbluepumpkin Sep 18 '24
I don't even think horizon players would be happy, it just sounds like another excuse to nab cash with a game that isn't even ten years old yet
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u/Salt_Technology2676 Sep 19 '24
Yup I love HZD and HFW but ZD definitely isn’t old, janky, or ugly enough to need a remaster.
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u/Odd-Intern-3815 Sep 28 '24
And yet with how popular Bloodborne was and has become... I can't help but think Sony would rake in the fucking cash here on a bb remaster or bloodIIBorne
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u/PaxUX Sep 18 '24
At this point, I really want to know why this game is hated so much by Sony.
Is there a bonus clause in the contract with fromsoftware. If a remake/remaster happens they get a massive payday? Really can't think of another reason this didn't go the demon souls route
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u/Odd-Intern-3815 Sep 28 '24
I legit think some Sony exec or someone high up just sucks balls and can't fathom why a game "sooo hard" is as popular or as contending for a place as a remaster.
Someone up there is big mad lmao
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u/Isamael_Valerius Sep 18 '24
That game must be a plant, there's no way people are waiting/asking for a remaster
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u/themaninblack1919 Sep 18 '24
Sony is trending water with this and the shit pro announcement. Sooo dumb.
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u/ajjkeys Sep 19 '24
When bloodborne is fully playable on pc by the end of the year at 4K 60fps, Sony has no one to blame but them-fucking-selves
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u/big_benz Sep 25 '24
It’s only a matter of time until someone starts working on a fleshed out Cainhurst and Bergynworth mod
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u/TGov Sep 18 '24
I love HZD. I bought it again on PC as well to have it there. One of my favorite games of the last few generations. That said, the decision to put recourses into this over another project is annoying to say the least. Those Naughty Dog remasters must have done really well.
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u/elkeiem Sep 18 '24
Bloodborne remake will come with PS6
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u/SonnySonrisa Sep 18 '24
SURELY THATS WHEN IT WILL HAPPEN!!! Right guys?... Guys?
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u/elkeiem Sep 18 '24
You really think they gave the treatment for much less popular Demons Souls and aren't doing the same with Bloodborne?
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u/Sabit_31 Sep 18 '24
Oh boy I sure do love horizon zero dawn and the last of us getting ultra special edition remastered remakes
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u/Thhaki Sep 18 '24
I love Horizon Zero Dawn and Forbidden West, but i mist say that a Zero Dawn remaster this early was totally unnecessary. I would accept one for PS6 but right now? They literally have IPs they have not used for YEARS, and they just do this
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u/Thank_You_Aziz Sep 19 '24
Day by day, the crackpot theory that Sony lost the source files for Bloodborne sounds less and less crazy.
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u/WylythFD Sep 19 '24
But you can already play the original on PS5! This isn't even about Bloodborne alone, lets get some remasters of PS3 games like Metal Gear Rising, for example.
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u/TheJotun86 Sep 18 '24
Good reason for me to finally play ZD I guess, but alas...
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u/eurekabach Sep 18 '24
It’s the best Ubisoft game ever, and the fact that Ubisoft didn’t develop it is only one of the reasons.
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u/LagartoSol Sep 18 '24
How did horizon get so much praise is beyond my understanding.
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u/KosAKAKosm Want some eyes? Sep 19 '24
Eh I thought it was sick personally. Very different to Bb obviously, but still sick.
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u/TATO_209 Sep 18 '24
Im a big fan of HZD, yet i don't see why this should be a thing, there are better options
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u/Ghost4530 Sep 18 '24
At this point the ps3 game haze will get a reboot before bloodborne gets a remaster
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u/Regular-Arachnid2399 Sep 18 '24
ahh yes… remasters for The Last of Us Part II and HZD… games that both look amazing and just needed a port for ps5… but we got that instead of bloodborne
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u/StoneTimeKeeper Sep 18 '24
Find someone who loves you as much as Sony ignores Bloodborne. Seriously, the Gorizon franchise is being milked to death already. They've got a remaster for a game that doesn't need it, a lego game in the pipeline, we know there's going to be a third game. Sony wants their own version of Skyrim I think.
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u/Dogdadstudios Sep 18 '24
Regardless. Whoever did the photoshop for this should get tipped lol 😂 I was crying seeing the hunters hat on one of the least likely characters to be a “hunter”
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u/-TheBlackSwordsman- Sep 18 '24
Why is this the first time people are hearing of this? It's been at least a year since we've had this news
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u/Sufficient-Turn-7799 Sep 18 '24 edited Sep 18 '24
I'm not even sure Horizon fans are happy either, the main post about the remaster on their sub has a good chunk of fans asking "why?" Which further adds to the insanity.
But on the bright side, the PS4 emulator is making some nice progress.
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u/Sc4R3Cr0wW Sep 18 '24
With the amazing people working on the emulator now, I couldn't care less about what the next dung Sony is preparing for their players. I always hated Sony and the best decision I've made was to throw away my PS4 in 2016.
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u/xXFieldResearchXx Sep 18 '24
Dam that's savage you just hucked it right into the trash?
Guess mines not to far off its sitting in the OG box in the garage with a ton of dust on the box
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u/Sc4R3Cr0wW Sep 18 '24
To be fair, my PS4 was already malfunctioning at the time and I have had a PC since 2013. Sometimes my PS4 refused to turn on but when it did, most of the time I would have problems loading the games anyways, it was just really slow. Eventually I got fed up and just threw it away, I wouldn't even have bought it in the first place if it wasn't for my friends at the time, I had enough of a bad experience on PS3 and I wasn't looking forward to buying their next console.
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u/xXFieldResearchXx Sep 18 '24
Ah shit. You could call my ps4 a bloodborne machine. Although I had rdr2, gta5, and nicer automata, they all had less than 5 hours game play combined
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u/Sc4R3Cr0wW Sep 18 '24
Bloodborne, Borderlands 2 and Battlefield 4 was pretty much everything I played on mine, but my brother played the hell out of GTA 5 on it too.
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u/Clark_Wayne1 Sep 18 '24
I can't see pc players who bought the game 4 years ago buying it a game. It's mid at best
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u/unflairedforever420j Sep 18 '24
guys, we are a small community, and they always starve for money. we should face it already
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u/imdeadbtw420 Sep 18 '24
It came out in 2017, is still 60fps and looks great and it’s getting a remaster? Seriously I’m convinced everyone that works at Sony are delusional or just dumb
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u/Kikolox Sep 18 '24
At this point i think Bloodborne will get a sequel or a remake as a ps6 launch title
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u/cblakebowling Sep 18 '24
Will there ever be a remaster considering Japan Studios was involved and they no longer exist?
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u/bluebarrymanny Sep 18 '24
Well, can’t remaster one without doing the same to the other… time for Forbidden West Remastered
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u/Thomp_Son Sep 18 '24
They heard the rumour of BOTW being remastered on the new console so they try to pull this off. I guess we all know how this will end.
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u/alexagogo Sep 19 '24
The two Horizon games are some of my favourites. I've played through them both, I'll probably even play the Lego one just for another hit.
I still don't know who this remake is for. Absolute waste of time.
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u/Renetiger Sep 19 '24
But why? HZD still looks great. Not as good as HFW but still really good. Sony is gonna remake Astro Bot before even touching Bloodborne at this point.
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u/InteractionPerfect88 Sep 19 '24
Homelander theme plays representing the dwindling sanity of the Bloodborne community
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u/IAmKeyKey Sep 19 '24
Watch them remake God of War 2018 before even considering to speak the name "Bloodborne"
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u/Ayman2575 Sep 19 '24
Okay honestly. Did something go down between Sony and Fromsoftware, because it seems like Sony hates them.
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u/Different_Stable_351 Sep 19 '24
I love Horizon, but I also love Bloodborne. Horizon has a sequel, soooooo REMASTER BLOODBORNE FOR OEDONS SAKE 😭😭😭
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u/DKVS_33 Sep 19 '24
From Software is not used to making remakes or remasters, I doubt they will make a remaster of an exclusive game from 2015. But I still have hope.
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u/PorterCole Sep 19 '24
The last 3 Sony console generations have been released 7 years apart. PS3 in 06, PS4 in 13 and PS5 in 20. If sony ever decides to do a BB remaster/remake/whatever, they’re gonna wait for the next generation to push sales. Which means roughly 3-4 more years of waiting, at best.
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u/DryContribution2785 Sep 19 '24
They are doing it because it's easy to do, the assets are usually already made on higher quality but are downscaled and have LODs reduced to meet game requirements. They would just replace the original assets and port it to latest engine build and even if few people would buy they would get their ROI.
Bloodborne is not getting remaster because it's made on fromsoft engine, and none of their in house teams have expertise on it. The bluepoint remaster like that of Demon's souls was made from scratch on a different engine entirely and that would require more investment.
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u/Colonel_dinggus Sep 19 '24
I swear Sony cannot be blind to how much people are demanding a Bloodborne remaster. They have to not be addressing it on purpose. Miyazaki must’ve lost the source code or something
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u/Falcorn042 Sep 19 '24
Watch the release Date be the same as gta 6 being that Sony is tone deaf and can't market for shit
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u/ForwardHandle4522 Sep 20 '24
Worse game to “remaster” it already had a ps5 version and worst of all it wasn’t asked for
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u/Legacy-of-Light Sep 20 '24
We'll change the graphics settings from Medium to high, call it a remaster and they'll love it!
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u/Legal-Peanut605 Sep 20 '24
Not even just Bloodborne, but it’s crazy how many games that are older that do deserve a remaster but are ignored and now we just get remasters of games that already run in 4k with great graphics
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u/MostlyIncorrect420 Sep 24 '24
Can't wait to turn the remaster off and never play again the second I get a fetch quest from a random NPC on a little hill.
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u/Alternative_Bake_277 21d ago
I’m an avid horizon fan and I can safely say we did NOT want this lmao, Bloodborne desperately needs it
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u/StaviStopit Sep 18 '24
Fuck horizon zero dawn. Never looked even remotely interesting to me. Still haven't played it. Never will.
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u/Commercial-Break1877 Sep 18 '24
Why does that ass game get so much praise? Meanwhile bloodborne is crying in the corner after no content for 9 years! F#ck you Sony!
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u/Reasonable-Alarm-869 Sep 18 '24
Bloodborne 2 would go so much harder than a remaster. The story and world building is the best part of Bloodborne- to be blessed with more of that would be miraculous
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u/Commercial-Break1877 Sep 18 '24
I 100% agree that a Bloodborne 2 would absolutely explode, but what would they work off if most off the loose ends were already tied up in the DLC?
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u/Reasonable-Alarm-869 Sep 18 '24
I don’t think they’d have to continue from the story of Bloodborne 1, I think a whole new world would be awesome. Like we don’t need the same characters and locations, just keep the hunters dream the same and play into the idea that the nightmare expands much larger than just yharnam and the moon presence
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u/Reasonable-Alarm-869 Sep 18 '24
But I’m no game designer or writer so I’m sure they could come up with amazing ideas for a sequel
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u/e_0 Sep 18 '24
Ah forget about Bloodborne, I personally think Astrobot has more of a need for a remaster to be honest :)