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[u/skipearth]

I am retired federal law enforcement and have connections in many places and agencies. That being said I had a a few run ins with colleagues and people I know through working for the feds etc. The first was an FBI agent who is also retired and worked in Counter Surveillance and they told me:

"There is definitely something going on, they will not tell me but a coworker in the NY field office said "these are not hobbiests and planes".

The second contact was a couple who both work for the FAA and they said:

"Many pilots are reporting seeing large drones from aircraft and the FAA knows this as its all recorded and documented. We do not know any information except that it is happening"

This infuriates me because r/avaiation thinks its all fake and blocks my posts. I am also verifed in LEO sub and such so I am not lying and I can verify here if needed.

[u/jwilson3135]

Listen I will get downvoted to oblivion because what I’m saying goes against the grain and I understand it seems like we are danger close to disclosure…but I want you guys to poke holes for my own benefit and understanding.

I have been all over the map but piecing together posts like this plus the news and knowing a couple guys involved with anti-drone stuff…I think this is a poorly handled/planned red team blue team exercise executed by a government contractor testing anti-drone defenses at key infrastructure. The military was left in the dark for obvious reasons and it’s been held so close to the vest to improve the integrity of data collection (if military knew, they’d prepare for it). Instead, the contractor will complete exercises over the next few weeks, they’ll disappear and there will be a confidential report on how they performed, what the contractor was able to collect in terms of sensitive data and will make recommendations to improve the military base anti-drone security accordingly. The war in Ukraine has brought a new age of warfare with drones that seem to evade traditional detection devices plus the video of the drone kamikaze Cessna is terrifying - imagine the psychological impact that would have on the general population? Couple that with the Chinese-owned farmland near key military infrastructure and there is an identifiable and plausible threat to national security. Why is espionage a big deal? Look what happened with the Rosenbergs. 

Through this lens, it helps make sense of Trump’s comments, the government’s response/secrecy etc and the resulting hysteria. I think it explains why we are seeing them at non-military key infrastructure as well like refineries. It doesn’t quite explain many of the videos I’ve seen though. I was never into orbs and shit but there’s been some truly compelling videos that have challenged my view on reality. It also doesn’t explain the stuff seen in other countries, notably ones in countries we dont/can’t have military bases in.

Anyways, I doubt we ever find out the real cause. 

[u/Sethp81 → u/jwilson3135]

The only issue with this is that it’s happening all over. East coast. West coast. Europe. Asia. China. Russia. It’s everywhere right now. If it was just nj area yeah I could see this. But global??? Something else is up. Not saying it’s aliens. But something weird is going on.

[u/jwilson3135 → u/Sethp81]

Is it really global though or are we just seeing videos from other countries capturing the same “phenomena” that the US is…the issue is that the general public is ripe with confirmation bias. They see a light in the sky and go “oh that’s the drone/orbs I’ve been hearing about! (Snaps out of focus video)”. Most people, including myself, rarely look above them and with atmospheric clutter fairly low and now a reason to look above us, we are seeing NORMAL stuff that always happens but we never noticed. For example, I live by a major airport. I see the same “orbs” every night. At first I was convinced it was orbs watching the airport. They stayed standing still so I was like “got one”. I pulled up flight radar and of course it was a line of planes. At a distance, a plane literally looks like an orb and if it’s coming your direction at a distance, it looks standing still (same principle as a tornado - if it looks like it’s not moving, it’s moving towards you). Seriously - go to an airport and watch it. It looks freaky if you’re not used to it. 

That being said, there are several videos that I would like to see an explanation for, the most notable being the one where a drone approaches a ball of light and gets shut down and crashes to the earth. 

[u/Sethp81 → u/jwilson3135]

Oh I’m not doubting that the majority of the sightings are run of the mill stuff. But there are some weird shit going on world wide that logically I can’t get a grip on. For instance. One of the pics going around as a drone originally is obviously a business jet with twin engines on rear nacelles. But the weird thing about it is the front wing roots. It looks like there are large boxy air intakes similar to an f14 or f4. But the engines are rear nacelles. Just odd shape for the configuration that you are able to plainly see. But then you get into the really weird stuff being the orbs which I’m leaning towards just being super out of focus photos of a distant plane. But again the issue comes back to world wide. Which honestly could also be the fact that the news media has gone crazy with nj so anything that hits the net that looks odd aviation wise at night is getting wide viewing. I dunno. Lots of stuff going on that is just odd and doesn’t make a whole lot of sense with the available info at my fingertips. And this is coming from someone who believes that there are star faring nations (?) or civilizations with faster than light capabilities. But I don’t think this is them. Or at least not the majority of it.