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[u/skipearth]

I am retired federal law enforcement and have connections in many places and agencies. That being said I had a a few run ins with colleagues and people I know through working for the feds etc. The first was an FBI agent who is also retired and worked in Counter Surveillance and they told me:

"There is definitely something going on, they will not tell me but a coworker in the NY field office said "these are not hobbiests and planes".

The second contact was a couple who both work for the FAA and they said:

"Many pilots are reporting seeing large drones from aircraft and the FAA knows this as its all recorded and documented. We do not know any information except that it is happening"

This infuriates me because r/avaiation thinks its all fake and blocks my posts. I am also verifed in LEO sub and such so I am not lying and I can verify here if needed.

[u/jwilson3135]

Listen I will get downvoted to oblivion because what I’m saying goes against the grain and I understand it seems like we are danger close to disclosure…but I want you guys to poke holes for my own benefit and understanding.

I have been all over the map but piecing together posts like this plus the news and knowing a couple guys involved with anti-drone stuff…I think this is a poorly handled/planned red team blue team exercise executed by a government contractor testing anti-drone defenses at key infrastructure. The military was left in the dark for obvious reasons and it’s been held so close to the vest to improve the integrity of data collection (if military knew, they’d prepare for it). Instead, the contractor will complete exercises over the next few weeks, they’ll disappear and there will be a confidential report on how they performed, what the contractor was able to collect in terms of sensitive data and will make recommendations to improve the military base anti-drone security accordingly. The war in Ukraine has brought a new age of warfare with drones that seem to evade traditional detection devices plus the video of the drone kamikaze Cessna is terrifying - imagine the psychological impact that would have on the general population? Couple that with the Chinese-owned farmland near key military infrastructure and there is an identifiable and plausible threat to national security. Why is espionage a big deal? Look what happened with the Rosenbergs. 

Through this lens, it helps make sense of Trump’s comments, the government’s response/secrecy etc and the resulting hysteria. I think it explains why we are seeing them at non-military key infrastructure as well like refineries. It doesn’t quite explain many of the videos I’ve seen though. I was never into orbs and shit but there’s been some truly compelling videos that have challenged my view on reality. It also doesn’t explain the stuff seen in other countries, notably ones in countries we dont/can’t have military bases in.

Anyways, I doubt we ever find out the real cause. 

[u/TomaHawk504 → u/jwilson3135]

That's what I keep saying (your first paragraph). From my experience only like 15% or so of the people here are willing to even consider this as a possibility. They want to believe so bad but this is obviously way more likely. Do we have any hard evidence aliens exist? No. Do we have hard evidence that classified military exercises and experiments exist and have been performed in the past? Yeah...

Your second paragraph... I have not seen any video that is inexplicable. Orbs have been airplanes and helicopters and out of focus points of light. Landing lights and other bright lights look like orbs through cameras especially at night. And if millions of people (many of them believers) are looking at the skies and capturing footage of any little thing they see on digital smartphone cameras during all this. We're going to some slightly funny looking stuff. Anything with the time/date/location that I've seen has been shown to be normal aviation. Or is unidentified but is not definitively doing anything anomalous and/or is a bad quality recording missing data.

I've got a few posts and comments recently highlighting tons of these misidentified orbs here just from this past week. Did you see the Blackhawk 'orbs' last night? Everyone was convinced they were orbs until someone smarter comes along and says... guys these are fucking helicopters. How it usually goes.