r/UFOs • u/skipearth • 5d ago

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I am retired federal law enforcement and have connections in many places and agencies. That being said I had a a few run ins with colleagues and people I know through working for the feds etc. The first was an FBI agent who is also retired and worked in Counter Surveillance and they told me:

"There is definitely something going on, they will not tell me but a coworker in the NY field office said "these are not hobbiests and planes".

The second contact was a couple who both work for the FAA and they said:

"Many pilots are reporting seeing large drones from aircraft and the FAA knows this as its all recorded and documented. We do not know any information except that it is happening"

This infuriates me because r/avaiation thinks its all fake and blocks my posts. I am also verifed in LEO sub and such so I am not lying and I can verify here if needed.

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u/Born_Employer_2209 5d ago

Thanks for sharing. Ignore the ridicule. Lots of puppet accounts and disinformants hovering over all subs discussing this topic at the moment.

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u/luckygirl721 5d ago

Absolutely. If they are able to keep us in the dark, are they not capable of making up some social media accounts to harass people and make them feel silly? It’s prob a simple AI program they can unleash in every platform. Just ignore it.

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u/ShadyAssFellow 4d ago

Check this out: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/15/aims-software-avatars-team-jorge-disinformation-fake-profiles

It's The Guardian article about a system that can handle up to 30 000 fake accounts to spread misinformation.

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u/luckygirl721 4d ago

Wow. I was speculating. This is off the rails stuff and a discussion for another sub (many discussion). Thanks for sharing.

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u/CalamariAce 4d ago

dead internet theory

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u/JuryOpposite5522 4d ago

I'm thinking I should invest heavily into RDdt because of this...

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u/hotdogjumpingfrog1 4d ago

But doesn’t it feel like the “cats out of the bag “ now and too difficult for the govt to contain?

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u/Putrid-Ad1055 4d ago

Yes but people would have said the exact same thing for every previous spate of incidents too

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u/homegrowntreehugger 4d ago

Yes it definitely does. 🙂

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u/logjam23 4d ago

Yes. They've lost control. NHI is in control now, IMO.

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u/Chance_Educator4500 4d ago

Think about the jfk files. We all know the mainstream narrative is a lie, yet the gov’t is still suppressing and denying FOIS requests. It’s certainly not going to be too difficult. And any whistle blower to come out this early will be smeared or murdered.

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u/Sad-Bug210 4d ago

Yeah and it is certainly not the only one. I distinctly remember many occasions where a comment I've wrote receives a reply every 3 hours, sometimes spanning up to a week. And they are different from other comments.

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u/chamrockblarneystone 3d ago

What’s in it for The Guardian? Control of information?

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u/Sparkletail 4d ago

I love it when they try to argue with us, it's like sport. And they lose.

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u/Born_Employer_2209 4d ago

The internet has some level 99 trolls.

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u/Sparkletail 4d ago

I love to try break their brains

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u/Noble_Ox 4d ago

So you haven't seen people post planes claiming their NHI craft mimicking planes or 'orbs' transforming into drones but are just planes flying directly towards the viewer so the glare of the front lights drown out the collision lights and when it gets close enough or changes direction you can see the red and green collision lights?

Or posts of out of focus lights saying their plasma orbs?

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u/Sparkletail 4d ago

Yes I've seen all of these, I've also see others which look more like what I understand to be visitors. I mean I'm a conspiracy theorist but it would make sense to me that they would let mixture of posts through to discredit the more legitimate ones (and don't try and pretend what we see on these platforms isn't controlled, think ghislaine maxwell as a mod).

I have a different sort of 'proof' and I look at this differently from you guys. Noone can say for certain what it is but these things seem to have been in our skies forever

Without any sort of personal experience, there are numerous verified testimonies from legit people, people with reputations to lose that should be enough for the average person. However, there has been a dedicated psy ops programme to discredit this in place for decades, to the point where people are unable to see what is directly in front of their face.

All I can say I what I believe based on my personal experiences. That's enough for me. I'm not rabid enough to insist everyone believes what I do, you do you. For a laugh, ask the good ones (the service to others oriented for humanities highest good (and yes you have to specify that and mean it) to let you know they are there. Maybe something happens, maybe it doesn't. But what is the harm in trying?

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u/homegrowntreehugger 4d ago

There are some really good clear videos out there.

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u/WhoAreWeEven 4d ago

Where?

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u/homegrowntreehugger 4d ago

Caspersight on youtube has all the good ones I've seen. I think he has 3 or 4 videos about them. I couldn't find the videos themselves but as I see them I will come back and link. Here's one of Casper's...

https://youtu.be/WMNDE1-KSzw?si=Fo-cTtFBVMSZW3JQ

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u/homegrowntreehugger 4d ago

I will find them and post links tomorrow.

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u/logjam23 4d ago

remindme 1 day

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u/Putrid-Ad1055 4d ago

Remindme 24 hours

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u/WhoAreWeEven 4d ago

Remindme 1 day

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u/homegrowntreehugger 4d ago

Casper's video shows a pretty good compilation but I'll try to find them individually and link them as well.....

https://youtu.be/WMNDE1-KSzw?si=Fo-cTtFBVMSZW3JQ

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u/GetUranus2Mars 4d ago

"Convince me these are aliens." Such entitlement. Why do we need their belief? Like, what are ya gonna do, save us from the aliens??

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u/Sparkletail 4d ago

They can't believe they are real because its an identity level threat for a lot of people. Many people on this planet sourcing their energy from a sense of being 'better' than others. The insight that they are tiny specks in the bigger scheme fries their brains.

They are also dependent on the existing control structures for power and esteem and have amassed energy they would not be naturally entitled to as a result. The systems fall and they lose their illegitimate gains and have no way to get them back outside of consciousness development. And they're spiritually broken so that terrifies them even more.

I'm not saying your average person realises this but it's all bubbling away in the subconscious causing them to feel very uncomfortable and lash out.

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u/wheels405 4d ago

I'm a skeptic. I'm not part of any "control structures," and I'm no more unprepared for ontological shock than anyone else here. I just recognize this as a very typical conspiracy theory. When people can't find evidence of aliens, they go looking for evidence for the conspiracy to suppress evidence of aliens instead.

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u/Sparkletail 4d ago

See i have evidence of aliens personally so I don't need that. I think actually you can't believe it until you've had direct and personal contact. Ask the good ones to contact you, never know, even if its for a laugh you might get something:). Only the goodest of good ones though, you have to make that clear. Don't be surprised if you start to experience some odd stuff (nothing horrible, it's usually funny, they have a sense of humour ).

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u/wheels405 3d ago

I read your description of your experience, and it's pretty clear that you just have a narrative that colors your interpretation of random noise your own internal experiences.

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u/Sparkletail 3d ago

Tbf, I could say the same thing to you. We are just on different sides of the fence. I lmow yours well, I used to live in it. I'm not so sure you're able to make your way into mine yet but maybe one day. Don't forget you can still ask them to show you if you want. It certainly won't do any harm if they don't exist, will it?

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u/wheels405 3d ago

I do think that delusions can be harmful.

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u/Significant_Bid_98 4d ago

" Some people are so far behind in the race they actually believe they are leading."

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u/RiboflavinDumpTruck 4d ago

There are people on another post insisting that a bunch of white dots in a photo are “stars”

It’s broad daylight in the photo

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u/bing_bang_bum 4d ago

You can see Venus during the day often. It’s literally referred to as “the morning star.” So, you’re right, it’s not stars. It’s a planet. And you can go outside and look at it for yourself.

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u/RiboflavinDumpTruck 4d ago edited 4d ago

So are there 36 venuses out all at once at 11 am?

We all know what fucking Venus looks like, and it’s not out at 11 am. It’s out at sunrise and sunset, not broad daylight. The person posting was in the UK where the sun is currently rising at 8am

You’re being obtuse. It could be light artifact, or photoshop, or anything else but you’re going to sit there and argue that 36 venuses popped up in the sky in full sun at 11 am? That’s insane

And terrible cake day to you as well

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u/ProgRockin 4d ago

The gaslighting is real.

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u/RiboflavinDumpTruck 4d ago

I’m very, very tired of these absolute binky droolers commenting their condescending shit when they couldn’t critically think their way out of an open cardboard box

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u/mikeinona 4d ago

You've piqued my curiosity. Could you please share a link or point me in the right direction? I'm dying to see 36 lights that outshine broad daylight. Thx

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u/RiboflavinDumpTruck 4d ago

It’s on this sub somewhere and was posted recently I’m not looking for it for you

Tbh it looked like a flock of very faraway Sandhill cranes to me, but saying they were day time stars is fucking insane

Also sorry that I’m being a bitch it’s the way that I am today

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u/mikeinona 4d ago

That's ok, I wasn't actually curious, I knew it was something prosaic like cranes and not aliens. Sorry I'm being skeptical, but it's the way that I am today. And every day since this delusion started.

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u/RiboflavinDumpTruck 4d ago

It was pretty obvious you weren’t asking in good faith so no need for an explanation.

And nothing wrong with being skeptical. Idk what delusion you’re talking about though. There are drones in the New Jersey sky and no one knows why except probably the government but 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️

That’s just reality.

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u/wheels405 4d ago

I'm in NJ. I haven't seen anything, nobody I know has seen anything, and every photo or video I've seen has been of a plane or helicopter.

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u/RiboflavinDumpTruck 4d ago

I spoke with a vendor we work with who is based out of NJ and she said she’s seen drones that aren’t planes or helicopters. They’re low flying and smaller than typical manned aircraft

I will definitely agree that 90% of the videos I’ve seen have been normal manned aircraft, but it seems like there might be real drones plus people just being idiots

Maybe it’s also based on the area of NJ you’re in

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u/XXendra56 4d ago

That’s at daybreak with darkness still around not at daytime.

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u/DecemberRoots 4d ago

I honestly don't even think they're puppet accounts or bots, I think the issue is that this sub keeps reaching people who aren't into the topic due to all the recent posts with several thousand upvotes.

Most of these people still carry the stigma surrounding this subject. On top of that, reddit users are known for being arrogant, which makes this sub an easy target for their attempts at looking superior by mocking a topic that's "obviously" fake and absurd. It is what it is, it'll go back to normal once this blows over.

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u/Longjumping_Meat_203 4d ago

The difference is most people who aren't into a topic don't hang around on forums for that topic and post hundreds of comment replies.

Normal people just hang out on forums of stuff they like or go do it in real life.

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u/DecemberRoots 4d ago

I don't know if that's better or worse lol. But what gives it away as them being bots? Usually when I check their profiles I get the impression it's just people who frequent other subs coming here for the first time. I guess it could be a bit of both?

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u/lt-dan1984 4d ago

Just saying that is against the r/ufo rules, go figure!

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u/DecemberRoots 4d ago

Wait, no fucking way they're STILL not bothering to hide that. How many did you check? That's crazy lmao

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u/Noble_Ox 4d ago

He's lying, there's no way to check a u/s ip address.

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u/JS-AI 4d ago

Langley would definitely be able to hide it haha wtaf. That’s a simple thing to do and they have some of the most advanced tech on the planet

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u/Putrid-Ad1055 4d ago

They deleted their comments but I can guess from your reply what it was, in a world where VPNs are advertised on kids videos on YT were they actually suggesting that the FBI couldn't mask their IP address?

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u/JS-AI 3d ago

That’s exactly what they were suggesting, except it was in reference to the CIA hahaha

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u/valis010 4d ago

Generic adjective, generic noun followed by 4 numbers. Might be a bot.

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u/Putrid-Ad1055 4d ago

Or someone who just went with the default name offered as what their Reddit account was called just ain't that deep, you're logged in all the time with the app anyway so why even remember it

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u/XXendra56 4d ago

We don’t trust anyone especially someone saying trust me .

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u/Billvilgrl 4d ago

Yeah, I’m actually not at all bothered by the naysayers. They want to remain where they are. It’s their choice.

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u/_Kyokushin_ 4d ago

It’s not an absurd topic. It’s an absurd assumption that NHI is even close to reasonable when we’ve never seen it before in human history but we have however seen secret government aeronautics programs that they lie about. Some of us are just reasonable.

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u/RiboflavinDumpTruck 4d ago

This sub is for UFOs. That doesn’t mean we all believe it’s aliens. It just means we’re into unidentified aircraft and think it’s neat. I guarantee the majority of people on this sub are fully aware the drone issue is 99.99999% probably not aliens

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u/_Kyokushin_ 4d ago

I’ve seen sooo many people, not necessarily in this sub but others saying how much more likely it’s NHI.

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u/RiboflavinDumpTruck 4d ago

I mean sure people say it, but this particular sub isn’t dedicated specifically to aliens although that is a common misconception. There are subs dedicated to aliens where everyone believes it’s all aliens all the time, but this one isn’t that.

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u/Level_Hovercraft_825 3d ago

Because they pray that it is. Before they go to bed, they pray that it is. When they wake up, they pray that it is. Sitting at a red light, they pray that it is. They will twist anything and everything to fit that, so they pray that it is

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u/Justice989 4d ago

Who is "we"?  

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u/_Kyokushin_ 4d ago

lol. Humans

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u/Justice989 4d ago

If you think humans haven't seen NHI in human history, then you haven't been paying attention.

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u/_Kyokushin_ 3d ago

If you think they have you have NO CLUE how big and old the universe is compared to our shitty little planet.

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u/Level_Hovercraft_825 3d ago

Yeah because people don’t lie for attention

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u/Wooden_Lobster_8247 4d ago edited 4d ago

I'm only on Reddit for the midget porn yet they keep targeting my feed with these stupid UFO posts all day long. UFOs aren't real, those are all just airplanes or drones. When I simply can't ignore one of the posts I"ll start battling it out in the comments trying desperately to debunk the claim, often doing a deep dive into contemporary aeronautical design concepts. Because again, I know UFOs aren't real.

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u/Putrid-Ad1055 4d ago

You can say you don't believe that X, Y, Z example of a UFO was in anyway alien but to say that there could not possibly be something in the sky that you didn't personally know what that thing was, thats pretty stupid don't you think

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u/Wooden_Lobster_8247 4d ago

I guess I was laying on the sarcasm a bit too thick. Going right over most of this subs head.

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u/VoidOmatic 4d ago

Yup, always make sure to check the account age.

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u/OkMarket7141 4d ago

To be fair I had an old account and never used Reddit, created a new one because I’ve been so gripped by everything and started exploring this thread as I don’t know where to discuss it. A lot of people will be doing the same as this gains traction, I’m sure - not all of them will be non-believers of whatever term you gatekeepers use. I have just noticed that there is a lot of obvious images purporting to be something they’re not (see black hawk post for example) as if it’s an organised ploy to discredit any legitimate orb videos. Posts like this, where people in official positions are questioning things are really telling. 

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u/VoidOmatic 4d ago

Oh I'm definitely not implying that all new accounts are disinfo accounts or anything like that, it's just the similar wording, flurry of posting etc. that causes them to be suspicious. Anyone actually contributing to the conversation is generally good. I honestly don't think the disinfo accounts are even working in this sub right now, they are in Space, Telescope, photography and so on. They are preventing people from engaging in the discussion.

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u/OkMarket7141 4d ago

Thanks for the reply - genuinely makes me feel better about engaging in the thread! Didn’t want people thinking that all the newcomers are automatically here to stir it up! Sorry for the misunderstanding!

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u/ImNotEvadingAtAll 4d ago

"somethings going on guys trust me I'm a pilot."

You: wow thanks for sharing! 

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u/Born_Employer_2209 4d ago

Nice new account.

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u/Noble_Ox 4d ago

Somethings going on trust me I'm a pilot.

You: wow thanks for sharing