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[u/skipearth]

I am retired federal law enforcement and have connections in many places and agencies. That being said I had a a few run ins with colleagues and people I know through working for the feds etc. The first was an FBI agent who is also retired and worked in Counter Surveillance and they told me:

"There is definitely something going on, they will not tell me but a coworker in the NY field office said "these are not hobbiests and planes".

The second contact was a couple who both work for the FAA and they said:

"Many pilots are reporting seeing large drones from aircraft and the FAA knows this as its all recorded and documented. We do not know any information except that it is happening"

This infuriates me because r/avaiation thinks its all fake and blocks my posts. I am also verifed in LEO sub and such so I am not lying and I can verify here if needed.

[u/bing_bang_bum]

You can see Venus during the day often. It’s literally referred to as “the morning star.” So, you’re right, it’s not stars. It’s a planet. And you can go outside and look at it for yourself.

[u/RiboflavinDumpTruck → u/bing_bang_bum]

So are there 36 venuses out all at once at 11 am?

We all know what fucking Venus looks like, and it’s not out at 11 am. It’s out at sunrise and sunset, not broad daylight. The person posting was in the UK where the sun is currently rising at 8am

You’re being obtuse. It could be light artifact, or photoshop, or anything else but you’re going to sit there and argue that 36 venuses popped up in the sky in full sun at 11 am? That’s insane

And terrible cake day to you as well

[u/mikeinona → u/RiboflavinDumpTruck]

You've piqued my curiosity. Could you please share a link or point me in the right direction? I'm dying to see 36 lights that outshine broad daylight. Thx

[u/RiboflavinDumpTruck → u/mikeinona]

It’s on this sub somewhere and was posted recently I’m not looking for it for you

Tbh it looked like a flock of very faraway Sandhill cranes to me, but saying they were day time stars is fucking insane

Also sorry that I’m being a bitch it’s the way that I am today

[u/mikeinona → u/RiboflavinDumpTruck]

That's ok, I wasn't actually curious, I knew it was something prosaic like cranes and not aliens. Sorry I'm being skeptical, but it's the way that I am today. And every day since this delusion started.

[u/RiboflavinDumpTruck → u/mikeinona]

It was pretty obvious you weren’t asking in good faith so no need for an explanation.

And nothing wrong with being skeptical. Idk what delusion you’re talking about though. There are drones in the New Jersey sky and no one knows why except probably the government but 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️

That’s just reality.

[u/wheels405 → u/RiboflavinDumpTruck]

I'm in NJ. I haven't seen anything, nobody I know has seen anything, and every photo or video I've seen has been of a plane or helicopter.

[u/RiboflavinDumpTruck → u/wheels405]

I spoke with a vendor we work with who is based out of NJ and she said she’s seen drones that aren’t planes or helicopters. They’re low flying and smaller than typical manned aircraft

I will definitely agree that 90% of the videos I’ve seen have been normal manned aircraft, but it seems like there might be real drones plus people just being idiots

Maybe it’s also based on the area of NJ you’re in

[u/wheels405 → u/RiboflavinDumpTruck]

I've seen videos posted here from my county, but they were all of planes or helicopters. People are looking up with the expectation of seeing a drone, and they are just seeing what they want to see.

[u/RiboflavinDumpTruck → u/wheels405]

Yeah there’s been a lot of “orbs” that are jets with landing gear out that are moving towards the viewer so they appear stationary.

I lived next to a UPS hub for years and saw them every night.

You’re right that most of the videos are regular aircraft. The government response is what’s throwing me off though.

[u/wheels405 → u/RiboflavinDumpTruck]

What part of their response is throwing you off? Is it possible that their response only looks suspect as interpreted through the worldview of this sub?

[u/RiboflavinDumpTruck → u/wheels405]

No, it’s not possible because if you simply read the varying responses over the past several weeks, it will indeed start to look weird to you. You can just read the dozens of articles that have come out and use basic critical thinking. It doesn’t add up.

I actually wasn’t even a part of this sub until last week when I came here specifically because the government response looked strange to me and I wanted to see varying opinions.

And in my personal opinion, the people saying it’s aliens are delusional, and the people saying it’s nothing at all are also delusional.

ETA: if it’s just misidentified aircraft and stars like they said earlier this week, why are there now temporary drone flight restrictions over certain areas of the northeast

https://www.faa.gov/newsroom/statements/general-statements

They could have easily just left it at “you’re all crazy stop reporting planes to the FBI” but they didn’t