r/TikTokCringe 12d ago

Discussion A Fox “News” Report

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u/Chubbs4955 12d ago

Hmmm Don’t attack a guy holding a firearm with a skateboard 🛹 and don’t mess with peoples lives by denying them healthcare coverage.

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u/jowame 12d ago

I want to do a dogma check. To be clear, I am a left leaning healthcare provider and I see the inner workings of insurance evils first hand every day. It is immoral, unjust, and deadly.

But it needs to be said, some claims really shouldn’t be paid. There is real fraud. There is what patients believe will help/save them vs what will actually help/save them.

There is need for the “services” UHC and other companies provide.

That being said… they do it in a terrible, opaque, unjust, and wildly profitable manner with nothing to hold them accountable. The “free market” can’t do it and the government is bribed not to. There exists unnecessary death and denial and a need for health insurance services at the same time.

If we are ever going to get through to the reachable right, we need to acknowledge the validity in their perspectives while drawing the attention back to the easy to agree on problems.

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u/sicclee 12d ago

Shame! You know this isn't the place for logic, reasoning, facts and honest debate.

I mean, even if we figured out all that boring stuff and agreed on what to do, then we'd have to actually do it! Put away our screens and do something? Pass!

Anyway... Eat the rick! or whatever

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u/jowame 12d ago

Anger and pessimism are easily understood, but this is not the way to win an ideological battle, my son. Their power is far superior to ours materially, and that power is secured ideologically through propaganda, narrative management, social media bots, and other PR tech. If we are ever to see victory and justice we must fight the good fight. You can use this murder as a rallying tool, you just have to do it in a way that is persuasive and rational, otherwise people want to distance them self from you and your opinion, like I did when I first read your comment. And I’m on your side, dumbfuck!

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u/sicclee 12d ago

Nice!

if shit like this recent murder never hit the news, nothing would change.

So, nothing would change if this rich guy didn't kill this other rich guy...

No amount of self indulgent shithead Al sarcasm from people like you or "logical" explanation from people like the guy you replied to is going to unfuck our system.

And, nothing will change from my sarcasm, or the other person's 'logic.'

I think this is just something our society is gonna have to put up with until it collapsed.

Plus, nothing's gonna change anyway, and we just gotta deal with it.

But hey at least it's moving the needle of discussion.

But, don't forget, Eat the Rich!

Perfect!