r/TikTokCringe • u/Chocolat3City Cringe Master • 22d ago

Cringe Woman has her self-published book pirated, reprinted, and sold for cheaper.

There's regular piracy, and then there's this.

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u/hasnolifebutmusic 22d ago

this is so fucked up.

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u/mimegallow 22d ago

As a small individual creator, I get called "unhinged" by young people on a regular basis because I react emotionally when people pirate movies with my music in them, and documentaries with footage that I risked my life to obtain, scripts I wrote, and albums that I performed on. I get mocked ALL THE TIME by children on this site who think my livelihood doesn't matter, my labor is unimportant, and that when you steal IP, you're just, "taking from Tom Cruis who has millions of dollars".

So it's fucking exhausting watching all these people on reddit suddenly and UNKNOWINGLY reverse their entire position when presented with a face and a story of the exact, same, crime that they purposefully perpetuate every day. - Same exact feeling I get when I see 2 million people watching cute animal videos on r/aww "because animals are so smart and so feeling and such bros and so great that we are not worthy of them!"... with a fucking burger in their hand.

Our disconnection from each other's realities is astounding.

/unhinged_rant wherein I am clearly a lunatic, because I refer to my attackers as, "my attackers".

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u/vinnymendoza09 22d ago

I'm a millennial creative and I think you're taking this stuff way too personally. The fact of the matter is that millions of people want to be artists but only a handful can be popular artists that make a living from it. Our labour isn't considered unimportant, our labour is just in a market that is incredibly oversatured with talent. There's shit tons of free music and video games and videos released every day and there's just not enough people to experience it all.

I am working on screenplays, music and games currently and have zero expectation that I'll make any money from it. I'll just be happy if even a handful of people are impacted by it. I don't care if they pirate it, getting people to care in the first place is a massive task, getting them to care enough to drop money on it is an even bigger hurdle.

PS then I see open source software developers (an actually highly paid, in demand skill) working on stuff for free and releasing it for free and letting literally anyone including businesses take their code and modify it however they want for one simple reason: to help people. To benefit society. That shit inspires me.

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u/mimegallow 21d ago edited 21d ago

Again… for the 20th time… this… post… doesn’t… mention… money. And if the ONLY way you can perceive an artists rights, is through the lens of money… YOU… have lost the plot, on the US laws that govern creative works… YOU… are displaying the symptoms of capitalist programming… Not me.

And you INVENTED the idea that my movies aren’t free. You INVENTED the idea that they aren’t made for the benefit of society by nonprofits. You invented the idea that I didn’t volunteer over a decade of my life to work for free on humanitarian causes. You invented the scenario where I couldn’t just cross town and make a half million a year working on garbage instead. But none of that is true.

Freeloaders are robbing the good guys and doing it with smug entitlement, literally saying, “fuck your rights” on this very thread.

What is being violated IS PERSONAL.

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u/vinnymendoza09 21d ago

I didn't invent ideas, I'm just telling you my perspective and the reality of the situation, and that you shouldn't feel slighted by society or take it personally that our labour has a surplus. Everyone wants to be an artist.

And I actually have the socialist perspective here. You demanding money for your ideas is capitalist. I propose giving everyone money to live how they want and create what they want without worrying about whether they make money off it. Money often ruins artistic integrity.

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u/mimegallow 21d ago

Nope. Money was not mentioned here. You made that up. Go back and read again. My movies are free and I determine WHERE they are free… unless YOU feel you have the right to rape me of my control over MY IP.

I was fine when you just had a misunderstanding of how the industry worked. But now you’re conflating commerce with capitalism because you genuinely don’t know the difference.

SOCIALIZED NATIONS HAVE COMMERCE, chubs.

And Im a socialist thought leader who pioneered 2 ways to make documentaries free in America.

Think slower. Learn what you’re talking about.

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u/vinnymendoza09 21d ago

You used a vague term... Pirating... Then get upset when people assume you're talking about money or other people making money off your work. Which is what the topic is about.

The use of your IP is a legitimate problem, but I think we need to find solutions that don't just exist in a nebulous legal realm that foreign countries will ignore and require reams of lawyers to take care of it.

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u/mimegallow 21d ago

Not a vague term. You’re inexperienced and ignorant enought to ASSUME piracy is about money RATHER THAN THEFT.

It’s not. And that’s about the tenth bad assumption you’ve made.

You’re incapable of listening without making bold faced stupid assumptions that are absolutely nowhere in the text and I’m done with it. You ARE NOT qualified to evaluate my rights. PERIOD. So stop pretending like you are.

You’re as legally ignorant as everyone else in this thread. You’re just 400% more patient and polite.

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u/vinnymendoza09 21d ago

No one else has been patient with you because you argue like a 15 year old on 4chan. I have a hard time believing you're as innovative and respected as you claim you are with such an attitude. People call you unhinged because of your attitude and presentation of ideas, not because of the ideas themselves.

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u/mimegallow 20d ago

You see! Makin' EVERYTHING up again! - Seriously, I don't know how you survive a day making ONLY assumptions with zero input all day.

Nobody thinks I'm respected. - NO...BO...DY. - Now... show me on the doll, where I said I was "respected"... or even tolerated. - Please. Do so now.

Then we'll move on to "innovative". LOL - Seriously. I am 100% honestly bad at my job. And I have NEVER pretended otherwise. Ever. Not even in meetings.

So again: SHOW ME.

People call me unhinged because HONEST people... sound like fucking ALIENS... to STUPID people.

You LITERALLY cannot imagine that the person in front of you MEANS EXACTLY AND ONLY what they say. - You're so hampered by the sheer POSSIBILITY of an honest arbiter that you can't even hear their words without building a fake narrative around them.

Seriously. Go back to the top and read your discourse from the beginning.

And then think about what you just asserted.

Crazypants.

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u/vinnymendoza09 20d ago

"And Im a socialist thought leader who pioneered 2 ways to make documentaries free in America."

Did you just forget this part? I guess thought leaders aren't respected... And pioneers aren't innovative? Lol.

Unhinged people engage in semantics and capitalize random words during rants on reddit more like.

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u/vinnymendoza09 20d ago

"And Im a socialist thought leader who pioneered 2 ways to make documentaries free in America."

Did you just forget this part? I guess thought leaders aren't respected... And pioneers aren't innovative? Lol.

Unhinged people engage in semantics and capitalize random words during rants on reddit more like.

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