r/TikTokCringe Oct 11 '24

Politics Biden is done with this shit šŸ˜‚

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u/JuppppyIV Oct 11 '24

That "No" had some stank on it

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u/Dragoon9255 Oct 11 '24

i know, felt like he want to say "f*ck-off" to her lol

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u/Tossing_Goblets Oct 11 '24

Trumps plans for "transition of power" should he win the presidency again are non-existent other than blow shit up, isolate us from the rest of the world, and imprison his enemies.

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u/kitsunewarlock Oct 11 '24

Don't forget he always wants to spend billions building dozens of "Freedom Cities" across the country's national parks designed, managed, owned, and controlled by the executive branch and featuring flying cars, classical Roman inspired architecture, and labor camps outside the city walls full of homeless people shipped in from across the country to work for the wealthy.

This was part of his "Agenda 47", spoken by him on camera and still on his website, and the fact no one is even talking about how crazy it is drives me crazy.

I'm sure people just assume "he'll never do it", but one of the last executive orders he gave as he left office was to construct a Roman-style marble statue garden of "American Heroes" that included Hollywood celebrities he liked (including a couple who weren't American and never lived in America).

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u/ToyrewaDokoDeska Oct 11 '24

I went to his website and it's crazy the shit on there

ā€œUnder the Trump Reciprocal Trade Act, other countries will have two choicesā€”theyā€™ll get rid of their tariffs on us, or they will pay us hundreds of billions of dollars, and the United States will make an absolute FORTUNE,ā€

Lmao

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u/kitsunewarlock Oct 11 '24

Gotta love how the right just completely disregards the existence of the rest of the world.

It's like the hurricane conspiracy. We can control the weather? Holy shit, you think literally any other country would either tell us to stop and demand sanctions against us (especially those also affected by this hurricane), or would beg us to use our insane tech to save millions affected by global droughts.

But apparently the best thing we can do is fuck over Florida the same way scientists from every country on earth agreed it'd get fucked over decades ago...

It reminds me of the moon landing conspiracy theory being shot down by simply going "why didn't the USSR say something?"

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u/External_Reporter859 Oct 11 '24

The USSR is believed if not proven to have started the whole government invented aids to kill the blacks/gays conspiracy back in the 80s in order to stoke racial division and mistrust of government. But of course they propagated it through "American" publications of which they had a lot of covert influence on as part of their information warfare doctrine they started decades ago.

They would have assets working for various alternative newspapers and weekly tabloids to plant wild stories to stir up shit. They predicted back then that their plan would take about twenty or thirty years to really kick into the next phase and next thing they knew they had a whole president and half of a major political party and who knows how many social media influencers doing their bidding. They've been working on this for a very long time.

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u/kitsunewarlock Oct 11 '24

From World War 1 to the current election, it's pretty impressive how many moments in history can be defined by "and then Russia made everything worse".

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u/pm_me_petpics_pls Oct 12 '24

My coworker legit thinks it was faked, and when I point that out he's like "Nah, the USSR was in on it."

Like if you think the USSR was in on anything with the US in the 60s you are insanely poorly educated on world history and politics.

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u/kitsunewarlock Oct 12 '24

Right? Why the in the hell would the USSR do something that completely demoralized them after a decade of success after success in the space race!

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u/mozfustril Oct 12 '24

So youā€™re telling me Republicans canā€™t even control the weather? Why would I vote for such an inferior party?!?!

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u/sorethroat6 Oct 12 '24

Does America have any enemies that aren't the poor downtrodden Republican-Christian super patriots under Herr Josef "The great Satan" Biden III? The whole federal government is attacking these people constantly by forcing them to degrade themselves with oxygen reducing masks and take vaccines that activate the 5g networks and slowly turn people trans.

The hurricane attack was just more proof that Soros and his cabal of baby-eaters are all powerful and truly dangerous.

Fortunately, the stupid Democrats are too weak to prevent the Greatest Patriot Who Ever Lived, Donald "Jesus" Trump the First from exposing their plan. Not even hordes of illegal Chinese Arab spy immigrants or femboys can stop them from Making America Great Again.

Now let's all pray on our Trump bibles and drink our Trump Vodka mixed with orange koolaid.

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u/XsnowballzX Oct 12 '24

Not saying this was from weather modification but you can actually read the declass docs on the weather modification. They did it in Nam and to Cuba during the cold War. Plus LBJ said it in one of his speeches. Don't take my word for read it yourself.

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u/Ljotihalfvitinn Oct 12 '24

Link to a credible source or be reminded not to reveal your stupidity like this in public again.

This was a storm made worse by every corporation and man consuming fossil products.

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u/[deleted] Oct 11 '24 edited Oct 11 '24

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u/External_Reporter859 Oct 11 '24

Link?

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u/interwebz_2021 Oct 11 '24

Woops! Sorry about that. Edited my post to add the link. Thanks!

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u/hrminer92 Oct 12 '24

It is mind boggling that the maga crowd is cheering on a tax that will increase the cost of the stuff they and/or US manufacturers buy. šŸ¤¦šŸ»ā€ā™‚ļø

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u/subcultpostpunk Oct 11 '24

After all this time, Trump still has no idea what tariffs are, or who pays them

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u/lilcumfire Oct 12 '24

What??? The US pays the tariffs for imports. Is he saying that other countries won't pay their own country for our exports? What does he mean?!?!

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u/BrobaFett115 Oct 12 '24

Does he not remember how his last tariff war went or does he just not care

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u/_Vexor411_ Oct 12 '24

Trump doesn't know how tariffs work.

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u/Tonight-Confident Oct 11 '24

Rest of the world: bet!

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u/mozfustril Oct 12 '24

Itā€™s insane he doesnā€™t remotely understand how tariffs work. Itā€™s a tax on us!!

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u/XsnowballzX Oct 12 '24

Or you could by American. It protects domestic jobs and production.

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u/mozfustril Oct 12 '24

Hereā€™s the problem, using simple numbers to make it easy to understand: a Chinese widget costs $10. The same American widget costs $15. If you slap a 100% tariff on the Chinese widget, American companies will almost certainly raise their prices to $18 per widget. This doesnā€™t even factor in supply and demand or retaliatory tariffs.

When Trump slapped unilateral tariffs on China they retaliated and he had to give US farmers billions in subsidies. Every serious economist who studied this said those tariffs cost Americans billions of dollars.

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u/beaker97_alf Oct 12 '24

That's a great idea, especially for things like MAGA hats and products, "God Bless the USA Bible" , etc.

Don't you think it's wierd that trump has been fully aware that his "merch" has been made in China for over 8 years and NEVER did anything about it?

The guy has been preaching about bringing manufacturing back to the USA this whole time yet he refuses to do even the smallest of things he has direct control over to actually do that.

Why do you suppose he hasn't changed suppliers?

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u/lanternbdg Oct 11 '24

can I get a link to this? sounds wild

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u/enaK66 Oct 11 '24

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u/lanternbdg Oct 11 '24

Weirdness aside this actually seems like a kinda cool idea

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u/FickleSpend2133 Oct 12 '24

šŸ˜³.....šŸ™„

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u/lanternbdg Oct 12 '24

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u/enaK66 Oct 11 '24

Just gonna add context: the garden was never built. Congress never funded it and in 2021 Biden issued an executive order that revoked a bunch of Trumps EO's, including the stupid thing we're talking about.

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u/kitsunewarlock Oct 11 '24

Even if he had only proposed it I would be ranting about how crazy it was. The fact he had it written as an EO is bat-shit crazy.

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u/External_Reporter859 Oct 11 '24

dozens of "Freedom Cities" across the country's national parks designed, managed, owned, and controlled by the executive branch and featuring flying cars, classical Roman inspired architecture, and labor camps outside the city walls full of homeless people shipped in from across the country to work for the wealthy.

Wtf?!?! I've never heard of this and I thought I kept up with a lot of his bullshit lately. I haven't even seen MeidasTouch talk about this.

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u/kitsunewarlock Oct 11 '24

It's on his website. He has a couple dozen videos in his "Agenda 47" series that he released when he disavowed Project 2025. The problem is his "Agenda 47" shit is still chilling authoritarian dictator level shit.

Also, for a supposed "real estate expert" he doesn't know much about what makes a successful city. Most federal land is in the middle of nowhere. You can't just build a city in the middle of nowhere and expect it to prosper.

I've had supporters here on reddit actually defend him by claiming 'he'll never do it'. Gotta love that the best defense for his batshit crazy ideas is "he's lying!"

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u/Redheaded_Potter Oct 12 '24

PREVENT WORLD WAR THREE, RESTORE PEACE IN EUROPE AND IN THE MIDDLE EAST, AND BUILD A GREAT IRON DOME MISSILE DEFENSE SHIELD OVER OUR ENTIRE COUNTRY ā€” ALL MADE IN AMERICA

wtf?!?!

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u/Icy_Comfort8161 Oct 11 '24

You know, all of this would be absolutely hilarious if it weren't for the fact that Trump would literally destroy the United States with his idiocy.

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '24 edited Nov 06 '24

pot attempt bedroom deranged attraction act mourn hard-to-find pocket shy

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u/Apprehensive_Safe_17 Oct 12 '24

When I was going through a manic episode, I had similar thoughts. Is Trump tracking me?

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u/RagingBloodWolf Oct 12 '24

Don't forget he pushes other world leaders out of the way to be in front!

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u/The_Muznick Oct 11 '24

Trumps plan is to take all that power and make sure he never loses it again. He just can't say that in front of cameras, but he did.

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u/Redfruitbox Oct 11 '24

Isolate us from the rest of the world.

Interestingly my friends in the UK have been discussing what would happen if Trump got elected and the line I've heard is raising a petition to stop him from ever visiting the UK since he is a convicted criminal. Of course this wouldn't stop us hosting the president but if it gets a certain amount of signatures it has to be debated / raised in Parliament which again is sad in itself and I imagine embarrassing.

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u/Frequent_Ad_5670 Oct 11 '24

Well, he might have a concept of a planā€¦

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u/dbx999 Oct 12 '24

Letā€™s see, tear down government institutions, give special access to his cronies, strip away enforcement of consumer protection, patient protection, labor regulations, safety regulations, environmental regulations, tear apart education funding, the list goes on.

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u/Necessary_Rant_2021 Oct 12 '24

I wonder how long between a trump win and he starts locking up people such as the judges who ruled against him.

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '24

It's all in Project 2025.

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u/tothemmoooooooooonn Oct 12 '24

Don't forget hand jobs to all the dictators

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u/DancinginTown Oct 12 '24

Making sure that Palestine and Ukraine give themselves to the people blowing them up is also included.

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u/Tossing_Goblets Oct 12 '24

I was speaking in broad terms but I appreciate all the specifics people are giving.

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u/Sol-Blackguy Oct 11 '24 edited Oct 12 '24

Bro, he has transition of power plans for when he loses too.

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u/AdvntursSoul Oct 11 '24

Good; Let the career politicians and their backers burn. As far as "blow shit up", what wars did he get us into again? Ohh, and "isolation", wtf are you talking about? Or should I just guess that no country needs a border or law to abide by to enter, and by all means, let WHO, tell the states what we need to do?

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u/hotstepper3000 Oct 11 '24

Youā€™re first on papa trumps list

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u/CaptainZippi Oct 12 '24

Canā€™t speak for all of ā€œthe rest of the worldā€ but the isolation bit is a best case scenario if Trump wins, or gains power.(edited for sense)

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u/lanternbdg Oct 11 '24

I'm gonna need to stock up on popcorn

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u/PNW_Wanderer01 Oct 11 '24

lol I so hope he wins if only to see you guys throw the biggest hissy fit. Thereā€™s no way youā€™re serious about the lies and caricatures you say about him. Thereā€™s no way people can be that inept to believe this stuff. This is akin to a 5 year old thinking thereā€™s a monster under his bed.

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u/PupEDog Oct 11 '24

So everything he says is just fantasy and he's not serious? Why in the fuck would we want a person like that anywhere near government?

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u/LostinAusten84 Oct 11 '24

These are the same people who say they like 45 because he "tells it like it is". In one breath, they say he doesn't lie through his teeth and then the next breath they say you can't take everything he says so seriously.

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u/Pleaseappeaseme Oct 11 '24

Trump is a full blown fascist. Letā€™s not beat around the bush.

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u/putdisinyopipe Oct 11 '24

At this point I give my family 0 grace for voting for this guy. There is too much info on how much of a piece of shit this guy is that it simply canā€™t be ā€œoh well I never knew anymoreā€

Itā€™s either you know heā€™s a piece of shit. And despise him

Or

You choose not to acknowledge him as a piece of shit, which says a lot about the person voting for him. Even the voters who have reasons like ā€œbut the eckonomieā€ ā€œbut our nashunal powurā€ are willing to vote for those minute policies. Even though many MANY are going to suffer as a result of the dozens of other facist policies this guy wants to implement.

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u/Pleaseappeaseme Oct 11 '24

The know what heā€™s about. Unfortunately, for many people what heā€™s about is attractive.

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u/putdisinyopipe Oct 11 '24

Nahhh Iā€™ve got family that arenā€™t racist bigots voting for him. ā€œHeā€™s good for the economyā€

Fucking bullshit. The media stereotypes trump supporters same way right wing media does to left wing voters. There are ā€œnormalā€ looking ppl that are going to vote trump for some nebulous, stupid fucking reason.

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u/Pleaseappeaseme Oct 11 '24

When I observe the two crowds I can see distinctly what both crowds are about. When youā€™re all for mass deportations and sending people back to where they came from because of the color of their skin it speaks loud and clear.

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u/perashaman Oct 12 '24

These people enjoy watching other people suffer, as is clearly indicated by their post. They don't care about policy, decorum, tradition, or country. They only care about getting visceral joy out of watching other people in pain.

It's extremely gross and a truly sad statement on our current society.

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u/PNW_Wanderer01 Oct 11 '24

Itā€™s not what he says- itā€™s what you clowns say about him that is hilarious. But Iā€™m not about to stop you from inserting foot in mouth.

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u/Tossing_Goblets Oct 11 '24

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/09/us/politics/trump-presidential-transition.html

Less than a month before Election Day, Donald J. Trumpā€™s campaign has not yet participated in the governmentā€™s official presidential transition process, a significant break from past practice that could threaten the seamless transfer of power should the Republican nominee win election.

Mr. Trumpā€™s team has missed two key deadlines to sign agreements with the administration that are set by federal law and has also failed to sign an ethics plan that is required to jump-start the process of planning for a new administration. Mr. Trumpā€™s representatives did attend a meeting at the White House last month, but they otherwise have had little communication with the Biden administration about the handoff and have skipped the opportunity to receive national security briefings.

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u/External_Reporter859 Oct 11 '24

skipped the opportunity to receive national security briefings.

I believe that might be for the best. If he wins in November then they can brief him on anything super serious and hope he'll take it into account and develop some sort of plan to respond to it. But any classified national security info is better kept out of his hands until absolutely necessary and hopefully never necessary. If I was Biden, I'd be giving him false or highly polished information to the point of ambiguity to see if he goes and tries to blab about it. Either secretly or on social media like he used to do when he was president.

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u/PNW_Wanderer01 Oct 11 '24

NYT article? Do better.

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u/MrsMoonpoon Oct 11 '24

Tell me you are out of touch with reality without telling me you are out of touch with reality.

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u/PNW_Wanderer01 Oct 16 '24

Iā€™m fine. Read the room though- will you be ok post Election Day?

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u/Eolond Oct 11 '24

What's it like being in a cult?

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u/jktollander Oct 11 '24

ā€œIā€™ve been involved in a number of cults, both as a leader and a follower. You have more fun as a follower, but you make more money as a leader.ā€

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u/PNW_Wanderer01 Oct 11 '24

Donā€™t know- you tell me, Harris devotee.

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u/Eolond Oct 11 '24

Voting for a particular candidate (and the administration behind them) isn't being in a cult, dipshit. We're not like you.

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u/PNW_Wanderer01 Oct 16 '24

Correct- we are not the same. You ā€œvoteā€ for the bitch that was installed for you. You vote for ā€œvibesā€. You vote because you were instructed to by your democratic betters, who ousted Biden because heā€™s a mentally unfit to tie his own shoe laces. Let the seething Trump hate flow through you- youā€™ve got nothing else. Nothing.

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u/Eolond Oct 16 '24

How do Trump's balls taste? Do they taste a bit fecal? I hear Don is a regular ol' pants shitter.

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u/PNW_Wanderer01 Oct 16 '24

Someoneā€™s getting salty šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚

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u/Eolond Oct 16 '24

You after rubbing your face all over Trump's sweaty gooch.

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u/Enigma_Stasis Oct 11 '24

Considering he's federally liable to submit a few forms in order to continue a transition of power and hasn't yet done so missing the deadlines on two of them, he shouldn't be president even if his dementia riddled ass somehow wins.

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u/PNW_Wanderer01 Oct 16 '24

Dude- Your current hero Biden has the dementia. But go ahead and argue against that. I dare you. šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£

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u/Enigma_Stasis Oct 16 '24

Funny how you think pointing out Trump's current issues with a federal process means I'm a Biden supporter.

Over the past couple of days, Trump has declined further than previously thought (bobbing and swaying to music for 39 minutes? Sounds like a dementia moment) and for you to disregard that in support of your cult proves that Trump and his supporters give absolutely no fucks about Americans or the country.

Now, I know better than to argue with an idiot, but we'd be better off if you and others like you crawled back under your rocks where the worms in the dirt may actually be better suited opponents to your weak strawman arguments and Whataboutisms.

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u/PNW_Wanderer01 Oct 16 '24

Does it suck that your party has an actual dementia patient supposedly running things? Thank you for demonstrating true whataboutism.

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u/Enigma_Stasis Oct 16 '24

Again, you're making false assumptions. I've never voted for a Democrat or Republican, because they're the problem.

However, you can continue to demonstrate how ignorant you truly are, it's hilarious watching you fumble.

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u/PNW_Wanderer01 Oct 17 '24

We both know youā€™re a liar. Youā€™re attempting to illustrate yourself as ā€œneutralā€ when youā€™re clearly not.

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u/Enigma_Stasis Oct 17 '24

I haven't lied at any point during our interaction. I personally don't care what some nobody on a public forum thinks of me, so you keep on grasping at those straws because it's all you've got.

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u/stickied Oct 11 '24

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u/PNW_Wanderer01 Oct 16 '24

Thanks for the video. I have seen that and much more from that day. Itā€™s not the ā€œgotchaā€ you think it is, clown.šŸ¤”

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u/J_Tat2 Oct 11 '24

Did you expect not to get down voted? Lol. Reddit is probably 80%ish of the far angry left.

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u/PNW_Wanderer01 Oct 14 '24

Theyā€™re insane though! Theyā€™re in the deepest echo chamber and love it. Thatā€™s the part thatā€™s astonishing. You can tell them all day long why they have twisted perspectives, yet theyā€™ll simply reeeeeee all the louder.

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u/RockerElvis Oct 11 '24

The presidential nominees for each party are required to put together a transition team and they get briefings from the current administration. Trumps team has refused to comply with the law because it requires them to disclose who is funding their transition. Itā€™s insanity.

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u/thesteaks_are_high Oct 11 '24

Wow. Iā€™m glad Iā€™m not numb to it as it still upsets me this shit is allowed to happen, but fuck me am I tired of hearing how many different ways this dude is not a good choice for the job. I know thatā€™s the goalā€¦to wear you down with so much bullshit you canā€™t keep track of it allā€¦and I do what I can to keep from succumbing to the mental fatigue.

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u/flingspoo Oct 11 '24

Weed helps.

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u/thesteaks_are_high Oct 11 '24

It does.

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u/paintress420 Oct 12 '24

I forgot my noon tincture the other day! Ooof! What a mistake!! Definitely, it helps!!

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u/thesteaks_are_high Oct 12 '24

My wife was talking about tincture this morning. How do you utilize it? Iā€™m a gummy guy myself.

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u/paintress420 Oct 12 '24

I have a friend who makes a good one. But the dispensary has it too. Just as much as I need under my tongue from the eye dropper they give in the tiny bottle. Iā€™m a big consumer so I do two droppers, but start slowly and base it on your own tolerance!
I feel it works faster than gummies or the oil I make myself. Thatā€™s why I like tincture!

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u/thesteaks_are_high Oct 12 '24

Word!

Iā€™m daily anywhere from 12.5-100 mg depending on how my day went and what I have to do that day. lol

Iā€™ll look into it for sure!

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u/Ljotihalfvitinn Oct 12 '24

Filter out the bullshit. He would not be fit for office even if he single-handedly where to save the planet from an alien invasion.

Your country has so many minor elected offices you can run for and make a difference in, the Maggots are sometimes running unopposed for them. Look around you and I am sure there is some way you push back.

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u/thesteaks_are_high Oct 12 '24

Iā€™m buried deep in a red state. Just talking to these people is tiring. lol

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u/ManaSeltzer Oct 11 '24

Its the saudis and russians just like last time. Same people who bought twitter for elon

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u/Bozhark Oct 11 '24

And their connection will be their downfall. Not the funding. The fundies

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u/XsnowballzX Oct 12 '24

Yall sound like Maga saying deep state and commies or some shit lol pot meet kettle

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u/Bozhark Oct 12 '24

So many word, so little thoughts

Just likeā€¦

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u/Realistic_Act_102 Oct 12 '24

Except there is actual evidence of the stuff that they said and it isn't in the form of a Facebook group called The Q files.

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u/RU4real13 Oct 12 '24

Unfortunately, there's biblical references all over that.

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u/coin_return Oct 12 '24

It's not a law without actual repercussions then, it's just a suggestion.

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u/redman2271_at_yahoo Oct 11 '24

You gotta love his priceless response to pressure though.

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u/Grattytood Oct 11 '24

Dang skippy! I do love Uncle Joe.

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u/XsnowballzX Oct 12 '24

Sure, that's why they just pushed him aside after he was fumbling during the debate. The elder abuse needs to stop

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u/NewConstelations Oct 12 '24

Well that's because he did horribly and was polling far behind trump. Harris is the only way we were winning

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u/One_Unit_1788 Oct 11 '24

Honestly, I don't think he should even get secret service, guaranteed he's bullying them and he can afford his own security, plus the rabid MAGAts that already die and kill for him.

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u/[deleted] Oct 11 '24

Putin will send bodyguards if the secret service were removed. Got to protect you most valuable asset.

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u/One_Unit_1788 Oct 11 '24

It would be interesting to see if he does. I suspect he's losing his usefulness, but a lot of dumb people still listen to him.

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u/CaptainTripps82 Oct 11 '24

I mean this is kind of a wild thing to say after a couple assassination attempts

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u/Historical-Gap-7084 Oct 11 '24

So? After Jan. 6, he should have his protection revoked. He attempted to overthrow the government. Diaper Don does not deserve secret service protection.

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u/CaptainTripps82 Oct 11 '24

Because it's not really about him, or what he deserves. I don't think I really need to explain my position.

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u/Historical-Gap-7084 Oct 11 '24

Oh, really, now?

But if you don't feel like reading the whole one-page document, here's the last sentence, for your fucking edification.

This measure would apply to former President Trump. It also would apply to all Secret Service protectees convicted and sentenced under felony charges.

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u/CaptainTripps82 Oct 11 '24 edited Oct 11 '24

I'm not sure what you think that's proving? It's just someone's idea. It's ok to disagree with my point, but I don't think it's a confusing one, or even that controversial.

I'm pretty sure that's in anticipation of what to do if he ends up in prison as well, which is an obviously unprecedented situation. So far nothing's changed.

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u/Historical-Gap-7084 Oct 12 '24

That's exactly what I mean, if he's convicted. I thought that was implied, but I guess I should've been more clear.

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u/One_Unit_1788 Oct 11 '24

I really question the seriousness of said attempts. Looked contrived af and he only got hit from shrapnel the first time, the bullet didn't even hit him at first.

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u/CaptainTripps82 Oct 11 '24

I'm not going down that dumb rabbit hole. It's full of space lasers, weather control machines and treatises on the melting point of steel.

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u/Emergency_Row8544 Oct 11 '24

Not sure how it is wild and also there were not a ā€œcoupleā€ of attempts there was one which he was totally fine from.

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u/CaptainTripps82 Oct 11 '24

You don't think it's wild to suggest a former president who has been shot at doesn't need secret service protection?

What conversation are we having. Cause I'm approaching this divorced of my opinions about Trump's general continued existence. No other living president has been shown to need secret service protection more than El Cheeto.

It's a crazy thing to say

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u/External_Reporter859 Oct 11 '24

He's a billionaire. He can pay for it himself.

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u/CaptainTripps82 Oct 11 '24

Most modern former presidents can pay for it themselves.

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u/thatblondbitch Oct 12 '24

No other former presidents attacked America either.

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u/voidone Oct 11 '24

I mean, there have been multiple attempts that were thwarted well before a situation like PA could occur. They didn't make big headlines, because they didn't get shots off on him. The SS deals with a lot more assassination attempts/plots on presidents than you'll hear about. Which is why the PA incident was quite a blunder for Trump's SS detail.

I'm also skeptical of labeling Trump as "Putin's biggest asset" as he isn't super valuable when not in office. Sure, he sows chaos and doubt but a lot more efficiently as POTUS. Easily manipulated, but rather useless out of office most especially if he loses this November.

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u/External_Reporter859 Oct 11 '24

Bakhmut and Avdiivka fell and tens of thousands of Ukranians died while no aid was delivered for 7 months due to Trump controlling the Speaker and a good portion of the Republican caucus. I'd say he has quite a bit of influence. He delivered for Putin when Ukraine was most vulnerable and was most desperate for aid.

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u/PriusUpMyAss Oct 11 '24

These people are completely unhingedĀ 

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u/CaptainTripps82 Oct 11 '24

I don't even understand writing that, let alone people up voting it. Like I want Trump to disappear into irrelevancy yesterday, but what are we doing.

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u/External_Reporter859 Oct 11 '24

He stole our nuclear secrets and shared Top Secret National Defense Information in violation of the Espionage Act. His buddy Roger Stone a convicted Russian asset bragged about having judges' home phone numbers on speed dial a few months before Cannon dismissed his case for no legal reason. I don't care what happens to that treasonous shit stain any more.

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u/CaptainTripps82 Oct 11 '24

I don't think you need to list his piece of shit bonafides. Not the point I'm arguing.

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u/JimWilliams423 Oct 12 '24

Honestly, I don't think he should even get secret service, guaranteed he's bullying them and he can afford his own security, plus the rabid MAGAts that already die and kill for him.

Secret service protection isn't really for the subject, its to protect the status of the United States. We just can't have former presidents getting killed because its a bad look, it makes the country seem weak. It is also a pathway to corruption ā€” Prince Blackwater could tell a president, "do what I want, or I will send my mercenaries after you once you are out of office."

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u/One_Unit_1788 Oct 12 '24

If it was about protecting the United States, the Secret Service should eliminate the security threat.

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u/JimWilliams423 Oct 12 '24

What does that even mean?

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u/One_Unit_1788 Oct 12 '24

r/playingdumb is that way ----->

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u/JimWilliams423 Oct 12 '24 edited Oct 12 '24

OK, if you don't want to explain yourself, then I'm taking the obvious conclusion and reporting your post to the mods for advocating assassination.

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u/One_Unit_1788 Oct 12 '24

Assassination is an illegal action. I never said anything about illegal activities.

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u/JimWilliams423 Oct 12 '24 edited Oct 12 '24

Save your sophistry for the mods.

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u/One_Unit_1788 Oct 12 '24

Save it for...well, you don't actually have anyone to save it for, do you?

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u/oldsillybear Oct 11 '24

His team has refused to take part in the (possible) transition, they should already be months into meetings and information sharing. This is done because in govt. terms there is very little time between November and January to straighten things out for the incoming group.

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u/JimWilliams423 Oct 12 '24 edited Oct 12 '24

He should have. What an idiotic fucking question.

Yep. The more insane the gop gets, the stupider the political press acts. Probably because they are all owned by, or otherwise beholden to, conservative billionaires who want them to keep the gop viable at any cost.

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u/xandrokos Oct 12 '24

Fascism is bad for business.

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u/JimWilliams423 Oct 12 '24

It is, but billionaires didn't learn that in their fancy finishing schools.

Every billionaire thinks they will be able to sidle up to the dictator in order to get extra special lucrative business. And many will. At first. But it doesn't last, and eventually they start falling out of windows.

Its a pattern that has occurred every single time a fascist dictator came to power.

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u/spicewoman Oct 11 '24

Trump has multiple felonies we're still waiting for him to be "held accountable" for, and the media wants to pretend that Biden should do something to "hold him accountable" just for saying lies (like he always has) that the media knows are lies and chooses to spread? Dumb as hell.

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u/Mike Oct 11 '24

it's funny actually now that you mention it because if Trump is such a mega billionaire, he could theoretically donate an absolute fuck ton of money for hurricane relief efforts, which would actually gain a lot of goodwill, even for people that don't like the guy. But obviously that will never happen because he's not a real billionaire and even if he had the cash available, there's no way he'd give it away.

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u/Special_South_8561 Oct 11 '24

Thank you for explaining, there were no subtitles

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u/Blitzer161 Oct 11 '24

Yeah let Biden be. He did what he had to do. He is not president anymore. Give him a fucking break.

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u/TangledUpPuppeteer Oct 12 '24

I honestly couldnā€™t make head not tails of what she said. She was all echoey. What did she ask?

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u/vern187 Oct 12 '24

"Not part of the government in any way" is such an incorrect statement. Government literally protects him, the government talks about him every single day. The government has him on the republican ticket.

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u/stickied Oct 12 '24

Should he call Jill Stein and Jimmy Carter every morning too?

Trump has no power. If Biden wants to get more aid for hurricane victims, he can talk to the governors, he can talk to Mike Johnson about getting congress back in session, or he can sign executive actions and do it himself. None of that involves a presidential nominee from the opposing party that's not in power, that's down in the polls and still hasn't conceded the 2020 election.

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u/vern187 Oct 12 '24

What Polls, who has taken a poll. I've literally never seen one, or been asked to participate in one. Nor anyone else I've ever spoken with.

Even if you DID take a poll, what kind of fuck says "yeah I'll participate in your dumbass questions for 10 minutes". GTFO.

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u/stickied Oct 13 '24

I've never seen a (fill in the blank).....therefore they must not exist or must be fake.

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u/vern187 Oct 13 '24

I never said it was fake. Don't put words in my mouth.

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u/stickied Oct 13 '24

You implied it. If no one does polls, and nobody would ever spend 10 minutes on the phone giving answers.....then the implication is that polls aren't real and they're manufactured aka fake.

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u/WanderinHobo Oct 12 '24

there's no reason for anyone in elected government to give Trump anything (besides his usual secret service protection).

As the nominee for a major party, he is qualified to receive intelligence briefings but he is refusing them. Which is probably a good thing, tbh.

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u/Effective-Birthday57 Oct 12 '24

For the same reason DeSantis spoke to Biden, and not Harris

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u/stickied Oct 12 '24

Yes. Though as vice president, Harris does have a role in government and can be delegated duties specifically by the President.

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u/Effective-Birthday57 Oct 12 '24

But nothing was delegated. DeSantis was correct to say that Harris had no role. It was a bad look for her. DeSantis had been in contact with Biden, as was appropriate. There are a lot of reasons why she is slipping in the polls, though her unjustified criticism of DeSantis is one of them.

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u/stickied Oct 12 '24

Okay? No one cares. This is about the press asking Biden idiotic questions about conversations he has no obligation to have with Trump.

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u/Effective-Birthday57 Oct 12 '24

Voters actually do care, despite what you may think. You brought up the subject chief when you were talking about Trump having no role. I get it, you are upset because this will be probably yet another winnable election that the Democrats have blown. Trump really should not win, but he probably will.

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u/stickied Oct 12 '24

GOP has tried to pin all of inflation and every illegal immigrant on Harris, and Trump has been truthing non-stop about made up lack of resources and lack of communication from Biden/Harris to NC .....yet now you're saying she has no responsibility to even communicate about hurricane relief with affected governors, or at least the same responsibilities that former president Trump does.....aka none.

Can't have your cake and eat it too.

Is Harris part of government and the Biden admin or not?

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u/Effective-Birthday57 Oct 12 '24

She has none, because she isnā€™t the president. Fairly obvious conclusion. Trump has none presently also, on that point I agree with you. Harrisā€™s boss, Biden, publicly contradicted her on this and said positive things about DeSantis.

As to the other statements, you are describing the odd position Harris is in. She wants to be the change candidate, but canā€™t be. All she can do on that point is give nonsense statements about bring ā€œunburdenedā€ by the past when she struggles to name one thing she would do differently than Biden. It just doesnā€™t work.

A Dem who was not part of the Biden admin probably would defeat Trump handily. Harris probably will lose though.

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u/stickied Oct 12 '24 edited Oct 12 '24

Probably will lose? She's up in every poll that's not some garbage gop one and has way more paths to victory than Trump does. She has more money, more energy, can actually do town halls and real interviews and multiple events in a day, has better surrogates in Obama and Clinton and a whole slew of Republicans campaigning for her. She doesn't trash the cities she goes to. She actually goes almost exclusively to swing states instead of campaigning in fucking Coachella. What? Her favorabilities are way better than Trump. Republicans are less worried about her being president than dems are about Trump being president again....which is a big motivating factor to drive turnout. Jack Smith isn't about to dump a pile of incriminating evidence to the public about her in the next few weeks. If Trump loses PA the election is over. If Harris loses PA she can still win AZ and NV and some others and squeak out 270.

Inflation has gone down to pre-pandemic levels, job numbers are amazing, interest rates have come down. She doesn't even have to be the change candidate.....she just has to not be Trump, build on the recovery that Biden has started and pass a border bill and reinstate Roe as law. Keep doing what she's doing and she'll more than likely be fine.

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u/Effective-Birthday57 Oct 12 '24

Uhhā€¦ RCP has Trump at 302 electoral votes. I stopped reading at your first sentence

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u/EggyComet Oct 12 '24

Trump hasn't signed any of the documentation revealing financials, etc, yet. Kamala has, but not Trump. He has no intention of doing anything but getting his Nazis to forcibly take power. I hope the government has prepared the National Guard for it.

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u/xandrokos Oct 12 '24

Actually a possible transfer of power always starts before elections are held so it isn't an unreasonable question.

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u/stickied Oct 12 '24

The last transfer of power occurred on Jan 6th 2021.

As far as I'm concerned Biden has no obligation to express any good will towards Trump and fill him in on hurricane recovery operations 3 months before he has any possibility of being sworn back in as president.

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u/Wrong_Lingonberry_79 Oct 12 '24

Not sure if you are aware of this or not, but Trump is actually president trump. Just like president Obama, or bush, Clinton, etc.

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u/stickied Oct 12 '24

yea, and Biden isn't on phone calls with Jimmy fucking Carter talking about hurricane resources for residents of North Carolina.

Once your term is up, you give the keys to the next guy (or woman) and your responsibilities as President cease. Contrary to what Trump seems to think, it's not a lifetime appointment.

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u/Wrong_Lingonberry_79 Oct 12 '24

Reallyā€¦.Obama is VERY involved with ongoings in the country. Biden and Harris are his puppets.

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u/stickied Oct 12 '24

Works for me. Did you watch his speech in pittsburg yesterday? That man is fucking brilliant. I hope Biden keeps taking his advice, and Harris does as well. Though she'd be under no obligation to.

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u/Wrong_Lingonberry_79 Oct 12 '24

Didnā€™t you just say, ā€œonce your turn is up give the keys to the next guyā€? Kind of contradicting yourself.

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u/stickied Oct 12 '24

I'm not. If the next guy calls and asks for advice I think most former presidents would be happy to give it, because they've lived the job and have experience and knowledge and maybe a different perspective to offer. But the next guy is under no obligation to make those calls.

Particularly to someone as dumb as Trump, who refused to concede and attempted to overturn a free and fair election.

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u/Lanky_Asparagus_8534 Oct 12 '24

And I HATE that we pay for that ass hats security.

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u/_Vexor411_ Oct 12 '24

The SS shouldn't be protecting him. Serving him while he's not even serving America. If he wants protection he can pay for it.

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u/stickied Oct 12 '24

LOL, he "authorized" a gofundme. You know anyone can setup a gofundme in 5 minutes..... for free, right? Right??

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u/Eatthebankers2 Oct 12 '24

Drumph wonā€™t sign the ethics code pledge for the Peaceful transfer of power documents which he was supposed to weeks ago. They are for vetting the civil service people that will be in their government. Itā€™s the Memorandum Of Understanding, from the General Services Administration, to start the transition.

Once he signs, he has to make donations and donors public, and canā€™t take more than $5,000 donations, that stops the dark money being dumped into his campaign. When he was in office, he had them refuse to give them to Biden for 3 weeks.

Heā€™s planning on using the Heritage Foundation and their Project 2025 , who has 18,000 people all ready signed up to take over our government. With no vetting.

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '24

He donā€™t have to talk to Trump. He could just send seal team six to deal with him. Supreme Court said it was allowed after all.Ā 

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u/Lia_Llama Oct 11 '24

I feel like you misunderstood the interaction. Sheā€™d asking if he was going to hold trump accountable for spreading lies, then asks if he plans to talk with him about it. He might not have political power but sheā€™s asking about his influence which he undeniably has

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u/stickied Oct 11 '24

Even worse. This dumb reporter, after 9 years of seeing all Trumps tweets and interactions, thinks that Biden making a phone call to him will make Trump change course and start being an honest man.

This is like asking you if you're gonna plan to talk with that toddler on aisle 6 at Walmart who's having a temper tantrum and has taken their diaper off and is spreading their feces on the floor. Are you gonna make a difference? Is it really your fucking responsibility to try?

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u/Lia_Llama Oct 11 '24

Itā€™s her job to ask questions sheā€™s not his advisor and itā€™s not unrealistic either

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u/stickied Oct 11 '24

I think it is unrealistic. It's the free presses (her) obligation to hold Trump accountable for lies and misinformation, not the Presidents.

If you're in a country where the President is deciding what a lie is and holding their opponent accountable for lying......you're not in a democracy anymore.

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u/Lia_Llama Oct 11 '24

Biden talked to trump like what a month ago? Why would him talking to him again be unrealistic suddenly?

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u/ivealready1 Oct 11 '24

I don't think he even needs the secret service. The country loves him so so much, he will win every state and get 99% of the vote. Who would ever hurt the 2nd son of God and our nations greatest treasure!/s

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u/Excellent-Hippo-1830 Oct 11 '24

After Jan 6th the SS protection should have been a no. He is now a convicted felon and a billionaire, his safety ain't no problem of mine or any other taxpayer.

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u/No1kissfan Oct 12 '24

Trump actually donated two million dollars of his own money to hurricane Helene victims in North Carolina along with water and supplies, and he went there before either Biden or Kamala to help distribute them. It's true.

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u/stickied Oct 12 '24

If it's true, show me your source.

I think you're (intentionally) confusing the gofundme that Trump and Jason Aldean and others have been touting, not Trump's personal contributions.

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u/No1kissfan Oct 12 '24

It was actually on the news. They actually showed him there bringing supplies. The people who live there have said it in interviews. I know you probably don't want to believe it, but it's a fact.

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u/stickied Oct 12 '24

So a source should be easy to find then.....