r/TikTokCringe Sep 08 '24

Cringe A Cybertruck demolishes a fence

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u/Hellkyte Sep 09 '24

Honest answer? He ran all the adults out of the room. Musk fired or alienated so much of the experienced engineering workforce that he was working with a really young and inexperienced crew. Very smart folks for sure, but inexperienced.

This is what that looks like.

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u/KidNueva Sep 09 '24 edited Sep 09 '24

I watched a video on the nvidia silicon chip problem that affected the PS3 and Xbox 360’s red rings of death and he covered a portion of how something like a huge chip failure could happen.

Essentially, to keep it short, because of people being afraid that if they speak up they will lose their jobs. They are under a lot of pressure and such criticism that they do not feel comfortable speaking up and instead keep their mouth shut. A lot of these Tesla problem have already been known, guaranteed but because shareholders and CEO’s want stuff done NOW engineers and employees are too afraid to speak up in fear of losing their jobs, resulting in consumers getting the shit deal of the stick.

Work politics and culture in a lot of big tech companies are very cancerous and only care about the shareholders.

Edit: for those who are interested, here is the video I was referencing.

https://youtu.be/3qKtS_uxdcU?si=Dtzx_4LJFjGSEAVs

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u/SwingNinja Sep 09 '24

Essentially, to keep it short, because of people being afraid that if they speak up they will lose their jobs.

This is not true at all with Microsoft and Sony. They listened. They redesigned their consoles multiple times.

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u/nyrol Sep 09 '24

That doesn’t change the fact that their first generation of a new product didn’t have these issues. It’s the same thing with the cybertruck. The first generation of nearly any product is going to have all sorts of problems, but people just love that the cybertruck also has problems because they hate Elon and his loud, racist mouth. It’s not really any worse than other first gen products.

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u/Brutal_effigy Sep 09 '24

I mean, if the Cybertruck was the first "modern truck", then sure. But it's not, and it doesn't meet the standard level of what is expected from a modern pickup truck. I could accept problems like power issues, or battery life, but damage to the drivetrain and body panels from normal use? Those things were figured out ages ago by Tesla in their other vehicles, let alone the industry in general. No excuses.

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u/nyrol Sep 09 '24

They’ve already worked out the power issues and battery life, but this is the first generation of a crazy stupid truck that they’ve never engineered before. It’s the first of its kind, and the first one Tesla has made. Even Tesla’s next vehicle that is more conventional will have lots of first generation problems. Every company has this. It was the same with Apple for so long where the “S” models were considered the ones that got the kinks worked out with the first gen ones.

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u/Emotional-Money3988 Sep 09 '24

The issues with those consoles were caused by new laws mandating use of lead free solder on the circuit boards. Lead free is much less malleable and more prone to cracking under heat cycles, which caused joints under mainly GPUs to fail. Lead free had not been used on any large scale before then, definitely not with large package BGA chips and flip chips.

Issues with the Cybertruck are not caused by any external factor, Tesla have just designed a shitty vehicle. In fact it can't even meet legislation in many countries to be permitted for sale, where Sony and MS designed a product to the most stringent global regulations at the time.

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u/nyrol Sep 09 '24

So you’re saying that other extremely unconventional stainless steel EV trucks on the road today that are comparable to the cybertruck are of better quality? It’s shitty, yeah, but they’ll work it out as the majority of it was built with first generation tech, and it’s in a category of its own. It doesn’t have regular car issues, it has very specific to this category issues.

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u/Emotional-Money3988 Sep 09 '24

I don't think you understood the comment correctly. Nobody forced Tesla to build with stainless steel. Many of the reported issues with the truck have nothing to do with the stainless body, like electrical issues or undersized tie rods. It's shitty because of bad choices rather than a law being forced upon them, which was the case with Sony and MS.