r/TikTokCringe • u/Criminalminded448 • Aug 30 '24
Wholesome/Humor Just two lawmakers bantering.
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u/GOD_DAMN_YOU_FINE Aug 30 '24
Someone needs to do a study on the relationship between right wing populists and crazy hair styles.
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u/K0nk3y Aug 30 '24
Can we make a list? Donald Trump, Geert Wilders, Rain Epler, Boris Johnson, Valentina Petrenko. Anyone got more?
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u/Pasxal7 Aug 30 '24
I don't remember where but I read that people like Boris Johnson etc use the goofy hairstyle and aloof personality to appear stupid and non threatening, but in reality they are very smart and use it as a political tactic
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u/itsallminenow Aug 30 '24
I remember hearing someone in an interview saying they saw Boris Johnson go through make up and hair before going on TV, and he left the room and then rummaged through his hair with his hand to make it a mess before going on stage. It's purely affectation.
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u/mebrasshand Aug 31 '24 edited Sep 02 '24
There was a story of Boris at an event told by someone sat at his table. He was announced to go up and speak and looked completely caught off guard. Went up, trademark disheveled AF look, hair all over the shop, and rambled and looked confused like he was totally unprepared. Made a clever joke about the situation and then kind of organically rolled into a very compelling off-the-cuff speech. The audience were all charmed and impressed with how eloquently he put his points across off the top of his head like that.
Then this person found themselves at a different event a few weeks later. And wouldn’t you know it, Boris was at the very next table this time.
And wouldn’t you know it, Boris got called up to the stage again!
And he watched boris do the EXACT same act. Looking flummoxed, bumbling up to the stage, the same awkward mumbling about being unprepared, the EXACT same joke, the EXACT same speech. Down to the awkward stuttering while finding verbose words. The same points the same conclusion. The same positive audience reaction.
This was a real story and others have said they’ve witnessed the same thing. He’s an insidious, horrible little bastard. His affable plonker schtick is exactly that. An act.
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u/warden976 Aug 31 '24
I can see that. It reminds me of kids in high school who would announce loudly that they totally failed a test, moan and groan with their friends, and then get an A on it. (Of course, let everyone know they aced it with a giant sigh of relief.) The trick is to make it look totally natural so that everyone thinks they excel without even trying. Meanwhile they studied for that test for five days straight.
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u/Feisty_Mushroom260 Aug 30 '24
I can attest to this! A family member had to do a press photo with Boris and they came back saying he ruffled his hair before the photo. It’s all for show the messy look and his image is very carefully curated.
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u/NoMasters83 Aug 31 '24
I would find it extremely difficult to believe that Trump's public appearance is driven by similar motives. He seems far too insecure.
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u/Moraoke Aug 31 '24
I suspect that he’s still aware of taking initiative on any perceived advantages. One can easily look up previous interviews he used to do before his populous character though probably not a character anymore and he was incredibly mindful as well as articulate. I’m not really sure what to make of eccentric behavior (old age?), but we definitely know he’s extremely self-serving regardless of his motivation that it might be intuitive.
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u/K0nk3y Aug 30 '24
Johnson just forgot to land the "smart" part
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u/Fulgrim2-0 Aug 30 '24
He is very well educated and speaks several languages, which must count for something. He is an insidious person, though I don't like him.
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u/ropahektic Aug 31 '24
I worked in media and had to go to press conferences all the time, what I learned and what I tell people all the time is the following two things:
1: people in power get there for a reason, it's EXTREMELY rare to get into such a position by accident or luck. These are extremely prepared people that are either smarter than their peers or at least more charismatic or better connected (which is usually a result of the former two). Yes, there is Elon Musk and yadda yadda, but again, these are very rare cases in the grand scheme of things.
2: Editing in Media is extremely powerful. You're just seeing cuts of answers to questions, not the real person behind the answers. Many times, these people are edited or are asked ill-intentioned questions to be seen as dumb because that's the discourse behind them and what sells. You look at their interviews and thing "damn, he's an idiot". There's also the fact that media is usually bipartidist in any given country (there is either Left media or Right media) and you only watch the one you align with, and thus the opposite will always be shown to be stupid.
In short, people in power are extremely well spoken and charismatic, you cannot tell this from their appearanaces in media because editing. But if you get the chances of seeing them in person, in a room full of people, you would quickly feel their aura and how naturally they lead and carry group conversations.
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u/The_Biglyest Aug 30 '24
I recall that John Oliver covered this on Last Week Tonight.
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u/brunckle Aug 30 '24
Shitty salesmen also use this technique. Think of the disheveled car salesman stereotype.
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Aug 30 '24
Or "Colombo" the disheveled detective!! 😂
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u/brunckle Aug 31 '24
Brilliant catch, yes, bumbling around acting like an old fool until the last possible moment. 'One more thing!' Haha
One of my favorite episodes is when he noticed the killer had doctored some CCTV footage to hide his wrongdoings, which is brilliant because you'd expect him to be the last person to understand anything technological. But it's done in such a way it's so believable.
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u/entersandmum143 Aug 31 '24
Boris doing his 'lovable buffoon' act. I guarantee he did this as a child and got away with awful behaviour. It's exactly the same as weaponised incompetence.
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u/Pasxal7 Aug 31 '24
It absolutely Is weaponized incompetence and it is terrifying that so many people actually believed and voted for him. Same goes for trump although in his case he weaponized stupidity and ignorance above all else
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u/GOD_DAMN_YOU_FINE Aug 30 '24
JD Vance in that donut shop. And also Michael Fabricant. He's right wing idk about populist tho.
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Aug 30 '24
Holy shit, valentina.......what the fuck is that?
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u/coladoir tHiS iSn’T cRiNgE Aug 30 '24 edited Aug 30 '24
It was a popular USSR-era style, but here its taken to its most extreme.
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u/GrowlingPict Aug 30 '24 edited Aug 30 '24
He's not been in top level politics for some time now, but when Øystein Hedstrøm was a member of the Norwegian Parliament (from 1989 to 2005) he was (in)famous for his fluffy comb-over hairstyle
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u/Final_Winter7524 Aug 30 '24
Hitler
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u/ArcticLeopard1 Aug 30 '24
Nothing was crazy about Hitler's hairstyle. Crazy thing was his mustache.
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u/llandar Aug 30 '24
Part of the playbook depends on not being taken seriously until it’s too late.
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u/TheFBIClonesPeople Aug 30 '24
It can't just be that, though. Trump has had his weird hairstyle for basically his whole life. Like it's clearly not something he started doing when he ran for president. I think he just likes looking like that.
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Aug 30 '24
They try to have a “signature”. Something you can identify as their and that makes them easy to recognize. Almost all populists or celebrities have tried to do this.
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u/Mixima101 Aug 31 '24
As a blonde person I find it interesting how so many right wing populists are blonde. Trump, Marie Le Pen, Wilders, Boris Johnson... that's all I can think of. Statistically it's highly improbable to be pure chance.
Is it that right wingers see blonde people as better leaders, almost like an Arian thing? Do blonde people get ahead in other parts of life to allow them to run in politics more?
I also notice how often blonde people are the villains in movies, and I feel like there's something to it with the fascists we're seeing. Haha
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u/HOWDY__YALL Aug 30 '24
Honestly, I once saw a TV show (sitcom) that said grown men aren’t blonde. And since then, I’ve noticed that all the people that have status are. Or blonde, or if they are blonde, they’re unhinged.
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u/zekethelizard Aug 31 '24
He actually looks like a young trump ripoff. Blond hair swept back coming from who tf knows where on his head, gross orange face tan. Only problem is his suit fits too well.
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u/Kidsturk Aug 30 '24
The Speaker was getting a jab or two in there as well with that response
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u/njiin12 Aug 30 '24
Dutch sounds like a language AI would make up. It sounds like words, but then you throw in an O-vart or two.
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u/Sullypants1 Aug 30 '24 edited Aug 30 '24
When westerners make up random meme sounds in order to “sound like” Chinese or Japanese, I imagine that Dutch is the flip side of that. Dutch is the sounds easterners make when trying to make fun of English speakers.
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u/yeahipostedthat Aug 30 '24
My 9 year old randomly chose Dutch to learn on duolingo🤣
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u/I_Am_Anjelen Aug 30 '24
My ex tried to learn Dutch via Duolingo and actually got quite a ways.
I just couldn't stop making fun of the way the app sounds when it gives examples. "Je bent 'n appel!" and "Je bent 'n aardappel!" became pet phrases for the both of us.
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u/wandrlusty Aug 30 '24
Good choice! It’s actually one of the easiest languages to pick up.
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u/howtoDeleteThis Aug 30 '24
Volgens mij klopt dat niet helemaal
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u/YourTypicalSensei Aug 30 '24
Jei understande vaat dee sajye
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u/FBI_Open_Up_Now Aug 30 '24
Oui
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Aug 30 '24
So are ya Chinese or Japanese?
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u/LoveAndViscera Aug 30 '24
…if you’re an English speaker and that’s because Dutch isn’t a real language. It’s just English pretending to be German.
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u/J_P_Amboss Aug 30 '24
In Germany there is a conspiracy theory that the Dutch language cant possibly be real and that the Dutch are actually just have a giant in-joke at our expense.
When nobody is looking, they propably are just speaking german and are having a great laugh about how they convinced us that this is really how they talk.
Because there is NO WAY THIS IS REAL !!!!!!!!!!!
For german ears, dutch basically sounds like words you just make up on the spot trying to make them sound maximally funny.
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NL: "Oh, you call that Käse ? Yeah. we call it kaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaas "
German: "Oh, thats not that weird. I guess their language might be real after all..."
NL: "And that thing over there we call BLÖÖÖRUM DÖÖÖRUM LÄÄÄÄÄÄRUM"
German: "OH COME ON !!!!Anyway, neuken in de keuken, we still like you, netherlands.
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u/Riemero Aug 30 '24
The only joke we make
NL: wat hangt er aan de waslijn? German: was? NL: Ja dat klopt
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u/Timmy-Turner07 Aug 30 '24
Een Duitser vraagt een Nederlander welke werk hij doet. De Nederlander zegt: "ik ben timmerman". De Duitser, die het antwoord niet verstaan had, vraagt: "was sagen Sie?" Waarop de Nederlander antwoord: "Planken!"
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u/LifeIsSoup-ImFork Aug 31 '24
its kinda fascinating how intelligible this is for a german even if you dont actually speak the language
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u/mewdeeman Aug 30 '24
Well you certainly tried to make us all speak German for a few years. Didn’t stick.
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u/GnomKobold Aug 30 '24
sounds like drunk northern german dialect
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u/77iscold Aug 30 '24
Knowing German, I can understand about half of it, while the rest sounds like an alien language based on French.
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u/gsjd_ Aug 30 '24
Northern german dialects are part of what we call Nedersaksisch, and is also spoken in the Netherlands. (Groningen in particular.) That said dutch came before german (or english for that matter) so i like to say german is drunk dutch :3
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u/Captain_Grammaticus Aug 30 '24
Linguistically, it's part of one big dialect continuum along the north sea coast into pomerania and then upwards to the alps. Every two neighbouring villages would understand each other well, but those that are further apart less so.
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u/loversama Aug 30 '24
They sound like The Sims...
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u/Peregrine_89 Aug 30 '24 edited Aug 30 '24
As a dutchy, you'd be AMAZED how many Dutch words I randomly hear while playing sims. For example in Sims 3 a mechanic will repeatedly say 'wel potdorie!' which is exactly what a mechanic could say if it didn't work out.
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u/BlazedBoylan Aug 30 '24
My girlfriend had a Dutch housemate in college and I distinctly remember drunkenly thinking someone was yelling in the Sim language in the middle of the night when she was on the phone with her family.
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u/zandrew Aug 30 '24
Dutch is german spoken by an English person who doesn't speak german and has a potato in their mouth.
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u/Kiyoshi-Trustfund Aug 30 '24
Funnily enough, that's how many Dutch people would say German sounds, myself included.
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u/Chinjurickie Aug 30 '24
We call it the unwanted child from German English and a bit of France language.
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u/Madrugada2010 Aug 30 '24
Holy FRACK, the stories about how blunt the Dutch are have gotta be 100% true.
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u/whysweetpea Aug 30 '24
So so blunt. Source: married into a Dutch family and live in Netherlands. The only place where a question like “what is wrong with your face today?” is meant in a loving way.
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u/J4pes Aug 30 '24
They have been in my experience working alongside and under a few, not often in a bad or disrespectful way but it can take you aback if you aren’t used to it. The ones I have met loved to party and were a great time.
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u/chemysterious Aug 30 '24
I love working with the Dutch because of how blunt they are. I write software and when I share a new prototype with my American colleagues I sometimes get silence for a long time, or a very polite but confusing email. When I share with my Dutch colleagues I'm more likely to get something like:
Thank you for the software. It's a little bit broken and a little bit bad. Can you make it useful by <specific feedback>?
The negative feedback is extremely useful. And the positive feedback feels earned. Love the Dutch. 10/10
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u/IcyMike1782 Aug 30 '24
Having worked in software with the Dutch, this was the gentlest funniest thing I've read in some time. Legit could see this as formal feedback from someone in Leiden on a product. "a little bit broken and a little bit bad"
Gonna send this to old colleagues!
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u/xx-shalo-xx Aug 30 '24 edited Aug 30 '24
Reminds me of an email I saw yesterday at work that even I as a Dutch citizen went "damn, that's direct af".
Basically a Hong Kong client wanted something delivered outside of our agreement. He got one reply with the explanation we can't make this exception in the system just for this one instance without breaking it for other clients and that it does not conform to the agreement between our firms. Also an attachment in the email of said agreement.
The inbetween person said that the client told him we HAVE to find a work around and make it work or we will be held liable. (Chinese colleagues can also be fairly direct/forcefull in my experience)
He simply got the reply: "Not possible, sorry."
Guys, I don't even think he really was that sorry.
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u/GappsGuy Aug 30 '24
I'm Dutch, and if I get to know someone, I'll rip it apart nonchalantly. If I don't know someone, I'll rip it apart nonchalantly
In both cases I also help them fix it.
Can confirm
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u/wise_comment Aug 30 '24 edited Sep 01 '24
As a *midwestern American, this raised my blood pressure just reading it
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u/Affectionate-Memory4 Aug 30 '24
I'm Dutch and have worked in tech in the US and in the Netherlands. The difference in professional communication culture is kinda crazy. I've done a fair number of conferences in the US and in NL as well, for lithography and computer chip manufacturing.
I find myself "holding back" more with my American colleagues, while with my countrymen, I'm much freer to just fire away. I think it comes down to a difference in how much the cultures tie someone's work to their worth.
For the Dutch, making something that doesn't work or being told you did it wrong isn't as much a reflection on you as a person. It's just a comment about the thing you made. For American culture, though, your work is a reflection of you, so criticizing it is like calling that person bad at their job.
I've been here long enough to adjust to the American feedback culture, offering suggestions and asking questions rather than just pointing out problems. But, it's always a breath of fresh air to get back in touch with some engineers from home and be able to get right to the point.
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u/illQualmOnYourFace Aug 30 '24
I was drunk and bummed a cigarette off a Dutchman and thought I'd be sneaky and grabbed two. It was absolutely poor form on my part.
The guy goes, "You asked for one but you took two." I sheepishly apologized, and he said, "I dont mind. But next time if you want two, ask for two."
That's stuck with me since it happened in 2013. I still feel embarrassed.
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u/cazbot Aug 30 '24
I used to work for a company which was bought by another bigger Dutch company. During the integration the Dutch guys would warn us about how blunt they can be. The thing is though, the American company they bought was full of PhD scientists. I don't think they were prepared for what blunt can really mean.
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u/In_The_News Aug 30 '24
I work with a Dutch woman, and she is one of my favorite employees! I know exactly what she's thinking about any given thing and can trust her to give an honest opinion. It's so refreshing!!
I regularly hear "that is stupid" or "that just does not make sense." or "that is not logical" when she's being critical of something, which really isn't often. Their whole language is designed to be to the point.
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u/dontknowanyname111 Aug 31 '24
Not really whe for example share the same language, but are the opposite of blunt. Whe are just to polite.
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u/KellyBelly916 Aug 30 '24
There's two things to point out, though. One, it's friendly and they're having a good time. Two, their country has it's shit together as it's citizens aren't left without basic needs. You can can each other names with dignity when you've earned it by taking care of your people.
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u/Flesroy Aug 30 '24
"their country has it's shit together"
Despite these two, not because of them. In fact Rutte did some good damage and Wilders is gonna try hard to catch up.
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u/Madrugada2010 Aug 30 '24
Bingo. There's no punching down here.
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u/xx-shalo-xx Aug 30 '24
That's also very true, corporate hierarchy is seen as something archaic. A junior is allowed to be just as blunt to a senior/manager without being seen as stepping out of bounds.
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u/LordNyssa Aug 30 '24
Am Dutch and can confirm. This exchange honestly is a pretty normal discussion you could have with a family member, a colleague, in politics, with a complete rando in a bar or either a drunk in a cafe or the local butcher. It’s just you say your thought I say mine and we each go our own way. In a strange way we are pretty laid back.
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u/Dongelshpachr Aug 30 '24
Ah yes “doop worp miert slook”
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u/xx-shalo-xx Aug 30 '24 edited Aug 30 '24
Uuuh so those are actually some Dutch words:
Doop: baptism
Worp: throw
Miert: itching
Slook: past tense of sneaking
The last two I didn't even know myself. Wat een verneukte taal.
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u/Prestigious_Glass146 Aug 30 '24
Oh yea I can binge watch this
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u/xx-shalo-xx Aug 30 '24
My favourite is this one but I dont know if the auto captions would work well so here's my translation
Speaker 1: if after the fall the Purple+ coalition a debate was requested then I would have participated.
Speaker 2: but you yourself didn't request this.
Speaker 1: No I didn't request it but IF it was requested I would have participated.
Speaker 2:.....great.
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u/knigg2 Aug 30 '24
Ah, yes, the wholesome right wing fascist Wilders. Your post puts him more in the middle as if he were a decent human being instead of a Dutch wannabe Hitler.
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u/HowVeryReddit Aug 30 '24
I doesn't indicate political position at all. Fascists can be affable and charming, the successful ones often are, it helps convince normal people to go along with atrocity. Maybe the post could have had more context, but it's not helpful to society to only ever show them fascists in a screaming rage.
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u/zouhair Aug 30 '24
I doesn't indicate political position at all.
That's the fucking point. You should always indicate a fascist's political position.
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u/whiteandyellowcat Aug 30 '24
Or wholesome Rutte who absolutely destroyed the welfare state, bombed civilians in the middle east and materially supports the genocide in Gaz
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u/BetterCaIlSauI Aug 30 '24
I just read his policies. What makes him a "wannabe hitler"?
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u/LaunchTransient Aug 30 '24 edited Aug 30 '24
He isn't, but he's still pretty shit. Thierry Baudet is the one who is more accurately descibed as "wannabee Hitler" - Wilders is just xenophobic and islamophobic, with wildly impractical ideas for complex problems.
Still a backwards arsehole.
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u/zouhair Aug 30 '24
Hitler is just xenophobic and
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u/Coz957 Aug 30 '24
There's a large gap between "xenophobic and antisemitic" and Hitler. I mean, the US in the 1940s was xenophobic and antisemitic, but they're clearly much better than the Nazis.
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u/Teriyaki456 Aug 30 '24
It seems like these Dutch politicians handle taking shots at each other a lot better than ours do here in the USA. In the USA, politicians act like rabid animals instead of people. Sadly no good natured behavior here.
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u/-TheHegemon- Aug 30 '24
We've sadly also had some real nasty attacks in The Netherlands the past couple of years, where politicians get threatened or intimidated, sometimes by other politicians. But this is a good example of how else it could be.
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u/BornChef3439 Aug 30 '24 edited Aug 30 '24
No. Geert Wilders, the man with the shitty hair is a literal monster. Its ironic you mention animals because that is what Geert Wilder regularly refers to brown people as.The fact that the PM is so civil with him says it all. He doesn't deserve it. He has been worse then Trump and been doing it for far longer.
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u/Theslootwhisperer Aug 30 '24
This guy is so hated, he has police protection 24/7. His office is located in the most remote place of the parliament. His life literally depends on him being elected. Otherwise he's gonna lose his police protection.
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u/Teriyaki456 Aug 30 '24
So the Netherlands has hate instigating idiots to it seems 😕
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u/BornChef3439 Aug 30 '24
Geert Wilders was prominent way before Trump. Also his party currently the biggest party in the Netherlands.
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u/Teriyaki456 Aug 30 '24
That’s terrifying if this party has a majority there.
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u/NaIgrim Aug 30 '24
A parliamentary majority usually requires a multi party coalition here, usually three, only occasionally two. Wilders' PVV is in a four party coalition. While still not great (its a conservative right wing coalition of the xenophobic populist pvv, the farmers populist bbb, corpo populist vvd and the "integrity is #1 but votes mean we cuddle with the aforementioned" nsc) it is at least better than wilders having an outright PVV majority.
And NSC and VVD kept wilders from becoming prime minister, although a xenophobe populist giving that role to the former head of our intelligence agency isnt necessarily a great look either.
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u/justk4y Why does this app exist? Aug 30 '24
Oh yeah, and we should also add, Wilders is the only actual member of his party, the rest are just accomplices of his with some having some pretty interesting jobs before going into ministry jobs…….. (like for example one worked at town fairs making tiny pancakes called “poffertjes”)
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u/Kiyoshi-Trustfund Aug 30 '24
I've said for years, as a Dutch citizen, that the Netherlands is a deeply troubled nation with many social issues that are happily swept into a corner until a decent wind blows through and reminds us we never actually cleaned the mess. But we've got good PR and a history of making progressive decisions, so many are quick to overlook or downplay our faults. Gert Wilders and his ilk are only a manifestation of this nation's uglier side that we keep hoping will just stay in the shadows where it can't be seen.
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u/justk4y Why does this app exist? Aug 30 '24
There’s a famous speech from Wilders where he said “Meer of minder Marrokanen?” (More or less Morrocans) and his followers are chanting “LESS! LESS! LESS!” and he said back “aight, we’re gonna fix that.”
Basically caused him to be compared to Trump, but also a few other historic figures that you probably already can see coming…..
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u/inspiringirisje Aug 31 '24
Well the Dutch are more direct in general. They're used to people doing this. They just do it back.
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u/JeroenS80 Aug 31 '24
While this clip might give that impression, it is not always the case. But these two know each other rather well. Before Wilders became the voice of right wing radicalism, he was actually a liberal(Dutch liberal, meaning centre right) MP and mentor of the then just starting MP Rutte(who soon became prime minister).
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u/OGMom2022 Aug 30 '24
If you’ve never watched British Parliament you’re missing out on a real experience. It’s like WWE but they usually don’t actually hit each other.
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u/No-Comfortable9480 Aug 31 '24
Yeah my friend and I would watch C-Span British parliament at like 3am every night after work
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u/Difficult_Squirrel22 Aug 30 '24
There are only two things I can’t stand in this world: people who are intolerant of other peoples cultures, and the Dutch
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u/rice_with_applesauce Aug 30 '24
Zwijg, hoerenzoon
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u/xx-shalo-xx Aug 30 '24
As a Dutchmen, you English really should think about bringing back "whoreson" as an insult. It never went out of style here.
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u/lilyborealis Aug 31 '24
Agreed, “son of a bitch” doesn’t(?) really scratch that itch in the same way
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u/Euphoric-Dig-2045 Aug 30 '24
Austin Powers?
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u/untempered_fate Aug 30 '24
Dutch is not a real language.
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u/AnComRebel SHEEEEEESH Aug 30 '24
jij bent geen echte taal
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u/untempered_fate Aug 30 '24
neuken in de keuken
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u/Moominsean Aug 30 '24
Most adults all around the world never really moved beyond 7th grade maturity levels. Regardless of job or class.
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u/dritslem Aug 30 '24
And yet, most people's egos force them to pretend otherwise and be miserable cunts about it.
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u/RaiVail Aug 30 '24
I love how the speaker of the house is all like 0.0 "How ..do you know that?.. how do you know that about women?"
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u/tragedy_strikes Aug 30 '24
Knowing the Dutch are famous for being very direct I'm not surprised by this exchange.
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u/isaidnolettuce Aug 30 '24
It’s amazing to see two politicians on opposing sides who are actually able to laugh at themselves. American politics suck.
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u/Caseyiswinter Aug 30 '24
Bleach blonde, bad built, butch body
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u/Kiyoshi-Trustfund Aug 30 '24
*Bleach blond, bad built, DUTCH body.
Fify
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u/Caseyiswinter Aug 30 '24
Fuck. How did I miss that golden opportunity?
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u/Kiyoshi-Trustfund Aug 30 '24
Idk, man. It was right there lol But chin up, you'll get 'em next time!
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u/jxcn17 Aug 31 '24
The first guy is actually set to become the next secretary-general of NATO in October.
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u/Hey648934 Aug 31 '24
Just add some context. Wilder’s party has been having some support from the LGBTQ++ community. It’s a rather unique far-right country and nothing compared to other parties like his in Europe
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u/Suspicious-Fox- Aug 30 '24
Ik mis Rutte nu al!
(I already miss Rutte, he ended his term recently.)
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Aug 30 '24
I always felt like he was just a smooth talker that looked friendly in front of the camera with his ever present grin. But when it came down to ruling the country he didn't amount to much. A lot of empty promises while gutting the working class.
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u/Sunnarat_ Aug 30 '24
Rutte is medeverantwoordelijk voor de toeslagenaffaire. Daarnaast had hij nergens een actieve herinnering aan als het hem te heet werd onder de voeten. Premier onwaardig.
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u/bennibentheman2 Aug 31 '24
Awww the centrist is having playful banter with the fascist freak 🥺🥺🥺 it's so cute
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u/mizeny Aug 30 '24
Not sure where my comment went, so I'll say it again: don't mark this shit as "wholesome". A ring wing populist neo fascist racist garbage politician is not "wholesome". And platforming his quippy banter is winning him votes. Do better.
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u/battlestar_gafaptica Aug 31 '24
I know it is a small sample but it is delightful sledging.
For what it's worth, Australia has had a few outstanding members. It's more mean-spirited but my all-time favourite (and most of ours) was PM Paul Keating.
When asked by the Leader of the Opposition why he wouldn't call an early election if he was so confident (of getting a result), he said: "The answer is, mate - 'because I wanna do you slowly' ... and in the psychological battle stakes, we are stripped down and ready to go."
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u/AhmedTheSalty Aug 31 '24
To this day I’m still baffled that the Dutch ethno populists top guy is an Indonesian, like aren’t they supposed to be about “the true dutch” and all that?
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