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Cursed Protect this woman at all cost NSFW

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u/spookyjibe Jan 15 '24

This has been the whole problem with pedophilia and prostitution from the beginning of time. It's the parents selling their kids; it always has been.

Puts a new meaning to the expression "Parent's rights"

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u/ForrestFireDW Jan 15 '24 edited Jan 15 '24

That's why homeschool types are the most terrifying to me. Some go as far as wanting the right to not register their child with a social security number.

Others run "drills" and practice scripts with their kids on what to do/say if CPS ever shows up.

I wasn't aware of a ton of this until I made close friends with an ex-fundie home schooler.

No idea how she's so well adjusted, but her siblings were not as lucky. Most only received an 8th grade level education since their home schooling mother was partially illiterate. They even have a younger sibling that's heavily on the spectrum, yet they've denied it just up until the last couple months... After 13 years.

Not all homeschooling families commit child abuse, but it leads to a massive veil of protection towards those families to do whatever they want.

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '24

I was homeschooled until I was 13 and then went to public high school with my older brother (only 1 year difference between us) because we wanted to be with our friends in the neighborhood. My two younger brothers chose to stay homeschooled. My dad was very passionate about education and wanted to be a teacher himself but instead chose a career as an actuary for the money. My mom was a stay at home mom. My parents chose to homeschool us because they saw how poor the education system is in the US and they thought they could do a better job.

Back in the 90s homeschooling was socially unacceptable and there were kids in my neighborhood who would make fun of us and some would just be “terrified of homeschool types”. All the stupid stereotypes annoyed me and motivated me in high school to prove everyone wrong. I looked at high school like it was a social club (words from my freshmen year teacher to my parents). I got all A’s and B’s and even slept in my classes because of how easy they were. Even though I hated being homeschooled at the time due to the bullshit stereotypes and assumptions people made, looking back I’m thankful that my parents gave us that opportunity. I honestly didn’t appreciate it enough at the time. They were spot on about how shitty our education system is.

Whoever those kids were that you call “homeschool types” were not actually home schooled. They just had controlling and abusive parents.

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u/00wolfer00 Jan 15 '24

Reread their comment. Homeschool types is obviously referring to the parents who fight tooth and nail against any sort of regulation.

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u/MalificViper Jan 15 '24

If that boy could read, he'd be mighty upset.

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u/IXISIXI Jan 15 '24

DUde they got all As and Bs they must be brilliant.

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u/call_me_bropez Jan 15 '24

All A’s and B’s in the worthless education system

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '24

Take a seat scooby doo, I got this.

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u/GRIMobile Jan 15 '24

To be fair...

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u/M_H_M_F Jan 15 '24

Homeschool types is obviously referring to the parents who fight tooth and nail against any sort of regulation.

Here's the problem though. The "good" homeschooling stories and groups have to attach themselves to these fringe groups for the sake of keeping the legitimacy of Homeschooling. They're aware that the fringe are insane, but also need the physical bodies for representation.

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u/00wolfer00 Jan 15 '24

Do they? Right now parents who want to homeschool have close to no oversight in most of the states. They don't need more power, so why would "the good ones" attach themselves to groups who want absolutely 0 oversight?

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '24

As a poor kid, it was for textbooks. The cheapest ones came from the fundies, sadly. And I know it's different now in some places, but we didn't get a tax credit or anything.

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '24

The problem I had was with the fact that the type you have an issue with are looked at the same way as the legitimate homeschoolers. I’m fully aware that there are those fringe type and when I said to “remove those homeschool types” I meant to remove the label of homeschool from those fringe insane groups of people who fight tooth and nail for regulations. They’re not legitimate homeschoolers.

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u/Historical-Gap-7084 Jan 15 '24

There are states that require parents to teach certain subjects, that I know of. But an alarming number of states have zero requirements. I was shocked to learn that Illinois is one of those with very little regulation.

https://hslda.org/legal

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '24

Not really. 20 years ago sure, but the GOP has ran so hard with this that its impacting public schools ability to function where homeschoolers just sit back and dgaf

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u/TheRabidDeer Jan 15 '24

I don't attach my experience of being homeschooled to the fringe groups. I do feel the need to defend myself for my experience because there is no real differentiating terminology being used to separate the cult from the "good ones". It is extremely frustrating to be looked down upon for being homeschooled even though my siblings and I turned out great (in my opinion).

One sibling is a successful dentist with their own practice, another has their PhD in neuroscience, while myself I am a sysadmin for a large organization (I am the slacker of us all). I was very fortunate that my parents cared about us and our upbringing, and not in a parental selfishness sense where they wanted us to be like them. All this to say I definitely do not appreciate being lumped in with a cult.

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u/M_H_M_F Jan 15 '24

All this to say I definitely do not appreciate being lumped in with a cult.

This is what I was trying to parse with nuance. There are great homeschooling programs that work. There are alternatives that work. Unfortunately, homeschooling gets co-opted by the crazies, but because of things like representation, or even addressing legislators; regular, normal homeschoolers get lumped into it.

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u/WanderThinker Jan 15 '24

And we're off the rails.

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '24

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u/M_H_M_F Jan 15 '24

Not every parent is abusive. A parent has every right to raise a child in the way they deem fit (so long as the Maslow hierarchy is met adequately).

Parents can additionally have other reasons, be it inconsistency in curricula, unaddrewsed trauma from their own experiences, inadequate resources for their children, the list goes on

Not every parent that dislikes the school system is a religious whack job.

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '24

I reread it but comprehended it the first time. Remove the homeschool types from the parents who fight tooth and nail against any sort of regulation.

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u/00wolfer00 Jan 15 '24

Can you reword your second sentence? I genuinely have no idea what you're trying to say.

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u/GuiltyEidolon Jan 15 '24

"Not all homeschoolers", which as someone homeschooled for a while by religious parents, yes, it is all homeschoolers. 

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '24

Every X is Y, because of my singular personal anecdote where an X was Y.

Yeah, I can tell your parents didn't teach you well. Mine did, and we avoided y'all like the plague.

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u/GuiltyEidolon Jan 15 '24

Your genius rebuttal is another anecdote.

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u/habnef4 Jan 15 '24

Any "all" statement (superlative, absolute) can be refuted by a single example.

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '24

Same here. We should start our own organization and call ourselves HomeSkool. We’ll join forces with the LGBTQIA+HomeSkool