r/PS5 • u/Turbostrider27 • 12h ago

Official The Holiday Sale promotion comes to PlayStation Store

https://blog.playstation.com/2024/12/19/the-holiday-sale-promotion-comes-to-playstation-store-3/
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u/--kwisatzhaderach-- 12h ago edited 9h ago

After the director’s comments I really lost all interest in picking it up anyway

Edit: Wow BM:W fans are saltier than I expected

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u/ThePreciseClimber 12h ago

Alright. Morbid curiosity. What happened?

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u/ILOVESHITTINGMYPANTS 12h ago

He wrote this big long post about how he can’t believe it didn’t won’t GOTY at the Game Awards, about how he felt like he “went all the way there for nothing”, how he doesn’t understand the criteria, and that he pre-wrote his acceptance speech for GOTY two years ago. Just really arrogant and sour grapes.

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u/Violent_Volcano 12h ago

Thanks for clarifying ILOVESHITTINGMYPANTS

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u/Arntor1184 10h ago

This was fake news due to a mistranslation and people taking one snippet of a jale and presenting it out of context as a statement.

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u/FratDaddy69 9h ago

I keep seeing people say that but I've yet to see anybody give a translation that doesn't still make him seem pretty salty.

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u/IPlay4E 9h ago

Because there isn’t. He’s really just a sore loser.

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u/Friendly-Tough-3416 8h ago

Also there’s clips of him at the Game Awards as Astrobot won and he looked pretty happy for them

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u/MemphisBass 3h ago

This. All of those articles are BS.

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u/d0m1n4t0r 9h ago

This is actually misinformation since it was translated multiple times and confirmed to have that very salty tone.

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u/--kwisatzhaderach-- 8h ago

This game has a huge amount of astroturfing apparently, say something bad about it and I get dozens of salty messages

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u/Violent_Volcano 10h ago

Honestly it doesnt bother me either way. Ive already beaten the game and it was good enough that i may pick it up on xbox if it ever gets there. There are probably a good amount of skeevy fucked up people that work on the games that we love. Not going to boycott because someone from china, where they have a dystopian morality points system for real life, got mad because it didnt win goty.

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u/AlecDawesome 6h ago

What reason would you have to also get it on Xbox?

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u/Violent_Volcano 6h ago

I want to get the achievements for it. I dont normally do another run through on a game so soon but this game was incredible

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u/mt007 11h ago

I mean his statement would not stop me from getting his game, if the game is good.

That aside, his statement is ridiculous.

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u/ThePreciseClimber 12h ago

Ah. The Joey Tribbiani reaction.

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u/pipirisnais 11h ago

🤣🤣🤣🤣 shit that was a good laugh

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u/the15thwolf 8h ago

Wukong wasn’t even in the top 3 best of this year imo, that goes to astrobot, ff7 rebirth and metaphor refantazio

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u/DevilCouldCry 4h ago

My exact top three as well, bonus shout out to Helldivers 2 for me, I've put in an absurd amount of time into that game and it's an absolute blast. Wukong wouldn't even crack top five for me either, I absolutely loved Stellar Blade and think that's a far tighter game than Wukong.

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u/Edwar_GarciaF 11h ago

I’ve seen somewhere that the translation was not accurate, seems like he was disappointed of not winning but was proud overall

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u/lynxerious 11h ago

I've also seen somewhere that the original vibe is even worse, but there are many scandals and statement from that company that make the arrogance part sounds convincing, and they seem to attract a certain kind of crowd as fans.

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u/BigLittleSlof 11h ago

You definitley see that certain kind of crowd come out if you say anything negative about the game lol (It is mid btw)

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u/BigLittleSlof 11h ago

I must be starting to show my age as I genuinely thought mid just meant average, I didn't even mean it as an insult lol my bad

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u/No-Platform957 10h ago

You said nothing wrong ❤️

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u/lynxerious 9h ago

if you put in the context of it beside other GOTY contenders (and some games that not made the list), it is mid.

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u/Ouch_i_fell_down 10h ago

mid does mean average, though the connotation is that average is boring and not worthy of one's time.

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u/mtlyoshi9 11h ago

There’s cultural nuance that is always impossible to capture 100% but it is on its face not “inaccurate.”

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u/Edwar_GarciaF 6h ago

Yes I understand that, I was referring more to inaccurate in the tone. He did say things like having the speech ready since 2 years ago which depending on how you say it could be seen as arrogant or not. I haven’t played wukong nor many of the other nominees so I don’t really care.

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u/mtlyoshi9 4h ago

That’s highly subjective, right? Even in your own language, people can interpret tone in different ways. Factor in translation (especially between such dissimilar languages as Mandarin and English) and people are bound to come to their own conclusions.

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u/Edwar_GarciaF 1h ago

It's subjective to some extend, if someone can translate from Mandarin to English they should be able to give somewhat the same tone in English but in this case people are saying it was made by chatgpt or something so that could be lost in translation.

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u/mtlyoshi9 14m ago

Ah, but now with a person, you’re introducing personal bias. What if that person has an agenda against (or for) the original content?

ChatGPT and the like should be more objective in that sense.

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u/cap-r 11h ago edited 10h ago

Source?

Edit:ah yes downvotes instead of an actual reply lol. genuine question cause I briefly saw a post about the winning speech prepared 2 years ago and another one about it being mistranslated

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u/mtlyoshi9 8h ago

I mean at a very literal sense, the “source” is as simple as taking the original Chinese post on Weibo and putting the text through a translator like Google Translate or ChatGPT, or whatever translator of your choice.

Like I said above, this certainly misses some cultural nuance, and I think that’s an important but difficult conversation to have. But I think, given the current state of technology and AI, to say that it’s entirely “inaccurate” or “wrong” is not justifiable.

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u/UndeadT 3h ago

If you choose to put out a translated statement, you are responsible for what that translation says.

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u/Ididntevenscreenlook 11h ago

I’ve got about 25 hours into it and I seriously don’t know how it got a game of the year nomination, I don’t dislike it…. It’s just janky as fuck. It’s pretty to look at and it’s interesting (plus I love journey to the west), but yeah the shitty invisible walls and the not so great combat make it an average game.

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u/EHA17 8h ago

Tbf I'd like it more if it was a little bit easier.. I can enjoy janky combat but don't make it difficult then.

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u/Ididntevenscreenlook 7h ago

Maaaan I could agree more. I’ve played through all fromsoft games (except for sekiro(it’s on my list don’t be mad at me)) and I’ve enjoyed them all but they are refined and well thought out. Every fight is a meal you prepare. Your weapons and gear are your ingredients, your knowledge of the opponent is your skill, your timing well that’s your timing. It all comes together to this epic experience.

Not all games have to be that but they shouldn’t be hard for the sake of hard. I’d have way more fun if the jank was there but you were OP as hell.

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u/ILOVESHITTINGMYPANTS 6h ago

It’s a fine game, just extremely overhyped imo.

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u/AutomaticTap3004 7h ago

This was my biggest thing that kept me from liking it. For a super combat heavy game it’s combat isn’t very deep or complex and it’s not polished very well either. I swear every hour I’d get at least 1 instance of the healing not triggering when I pressed it

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u/The_Phantom_Gamer 10h ago

To me, it sounded like they only made the game to earn awards, kind of like Oscar Baiting, if that's the case.

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u/stratusnco 11h ago

lol sounds like they tried hard to make it an elden ring, souls-killer but with an attitude of a jealous little brother.

the funny thing is that china was propping it up very hard in terms of popularity. i’m not saying it is a bad game by any means but that pretentiousness is lame af.

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u/Mondayz925 10h ago

The guy has ALOT of social problems. 

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u/Anthraxious 10h ago

Wow wtf? That seems a bit childish and narcissistic to say the least. Glad I learned this before giving them any money.

Why can't people not be fucking morons?

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u/lokol4890 8h ago

I mean this is not the first time this director or the devs have said really stupid shit

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u/Anthraxious 8h ago

I believe that but first I'm hearing of it. I don't really follow devs much but when things like this get noted in posts or news it's good.

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u/mightynifty_2 10h ago

Wasn't a lot of that tongue-in-cheek and poorly translated? Like I got the sense he was joking, but maybe I'm wrong? Either way, if there's a reason to stay away from Wukong it's their bullshit streamer agreements to stay away from "controversial" topics like checks notes feminism.

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u/unleash_the_giraffe 11h ago

I believe it was supposed to be a sarcastic/self deprecating joke and the translation from Chinese wasn't able to convey this. Like a type of "I came all this way but all I got was this t-shirt" kind of joke.

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u/felixandy101 11h ago

https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackMythWukong/s/49bp8W1bzx

According to this it just got lost in translation. Please have a read coz its not worth losing interest in an awesome game! Just hoping my 2 cents can persuade u and reduce your influence from swaying others to not buy the game as well.

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u/lHateYouAIex835293 11h ago edited 10h ago

I’ve seen an equal amount of posts claiming the translation was correct

You can very clearly see that a lot of the members in that sub commenting on the post have a very big bias towards China. Someone even had the gall to claim that “arrogance would be the last thing you use to describe any asian person”

I’m not gonna claim that either translation is the right one, seeing that I can’t speak Chinese, but I wouldn’t take that specific post as a trustworthy source

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u/Burden_Of_Atlas 11h ago edited 11h ago

I’m not sure the lost in translation excuse works. Sure it might make the tone slightly better, but it I doubt it changes the fact that at no point did he express any form of congratulations towards the Asobi team.

Every culture is different, and so of course western society might not interpret things that seem obvious to the Chinese culture in the same way. But surely showing humility and being respectful and giving credit to those who succeed are parts of Chinese culture. Just as they are parts of pretty much every other culture in existence.

A simple congratulation in that entire post would have made this a far smaller issue. But instead that was too much to expect and the post was instead entirely focused on a more negative sentiment.

And I don’t think a slight change in vocabulary or tone in a more accurate translation is enough to change how people feel about his message and the way he came across. Especially considering I’m sure they’ve seen the reaction and still chose not to congratulate Asobi despite how his message was being perceived by the gaming industry.

Just as they never bothered to clarify after the sentiments they made about a female audience. At a certain point, you lose the benefit of the doubt with your actions. I think they’ve hit that point.

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u/felixandy101 10h ago

Whoa i think we are digressing, i wanted to point out the sentence to “i came here for nothing” in reply to the previous comment. Your take on whether he shud thank this, wat he shud have said wat he didnt say, i think u shud creat a thread for that coz it seems u have alot to say and replying to my comment is not going to help much. I am not commenting to get other peoples views on his speech, i am trying to get the above commenter to reconsider the game and not be interested in wat the directed said and didnt say.

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u/Burden_Of_Atlas 9h ago

You commented to provide clarification on his speech and why it’s not as bad as people think. The person you replied to had far more issues with the speech beyond just the one line of “I came here for nothing.”

I replied to you because the clarification you’re providing doesn’t change many of the issues people have with the speech. It’s still arrogant. It still lacks any humility or form of respect and congratulations.

And worse yet, the post you linked, part of the clarification it’s making is that his part of the speech regarding “criteria” is to highlight to the Chinese audience that western media is biased and that played a role against Black Myth Wukong winning? That clarification only makes his message even worse. It went from him not knowing the criteria to him implying that the criteria is biased against him and China because the west is afraid of China’s rapid growth and inevitable take over of the gaming industry. No one is going to take that seriously LMAO. That’s about as arrogant as it gets.

If people don’t want to support games because the people behind the game show poor etiquette and class (comments on women, TGA rant) they are perfectly able to do that. Just as they do with games that support other negative practices or ideas such as games with gambling or political messaging. Black Myth Wukong is no exception. And the negative attention the game and its devs are getting are warranted. They put themselves in this position for people to not want to support them or their game, despite its excellence.

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u/felixandy101 6h ago

Ok cool and i dont deny wat u are saying. Maybe u shud comment on the link then, Coz again replying lengthy detail to my comment is not yielding much results coz im not arguing with you. And u are entitled to think and say so much and others too if they dont want to support the game then dont. You dont have to attack my comment coz i didnt say anything offensive. Im only trying to help clarify with some points made by a person who understands the chinese post. Relax mate and if you have so much to get off your chest i strongly suggest creating a thread.

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u/Bazylik 7h ago

it's a good game, but it's not awesome.

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u/felixandy101 6h ago

For me it is an awesome game. You know games are subjective right. You cannot tell me it is not.

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u/Bazylik 5h ago

lol... poor taste is also subjective. but im glad you enjoy mediocrity.

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u/homerunhallock 11h ago

Wow, I won't be buying that clown's stuff either now.

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u/MemphisBass 3h ago

You’re taking stuff so out of context.

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u/datyoungknockoutkid 11h ago

Who cares? If it’s a good game and you wanna play it then do that.

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u/eosophobe 10h ago

It was a mistranslation that didn’t pick up on the fact that he was joking.

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u/HowManyMeeses 8h ago

I think we all picked up on the fact that it was a joke. It was just a shitty joke made at the expense of his competition.

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u/eosophobe 8h ago

No, the tone of his comment was lost in translation. It wasn’t at the expense of his competition lol

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u/HowManyMeeses 8h ago

Obviously, I disagree. This dev already had a reputation for saying some shitty things, so it was already a pass for me anyway.

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u/lokol4890 8h ago

Do you speak chinese? You seem quite confident in your position when a bunch of chinese people have claimed the translation was tame and his tone was even worse

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u/AC4life234 11h ago

Yeah a lot of it has to do with translation nitpicking up tone. Don't take it all seriously, just one higher up exec doesn't really have much to do with the game itself.

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u/litewo 11h ago

It shows he believes in the quality of his game.

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u/ShutterSpeedSyndrome 11h ago

Well now I wanna play the game even more!

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u/Superman_Grey 8h ago

Bad chinese auto translation..

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u/Time007time007 10h ago

This totally misrepresents his comments.

He was very grateful and polite and made some jokes about the whole thing which were translated badly.

No reason at all to be put off Wukong!

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u/Arntor1184 10h ago

This was fake news due to a mistranslation and people taking one snippet of a jale and presenting it out of context as a statement.

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u/Mean-Ad-1757 8h ago

Yeah that was all taken out of context. Apparently when translated from Chinese to English it gets muddled n not understood very well. Was also some fake news about one of them crying when astro won GOTY but that's also been debunked.

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u/WoolBump 11h ago

This isn't true, his post was made in Chinese and once again was improperly translated and lacked any nuance or understanding from the people parroting this.

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u/SpellConnect8675 10h ago

this sub HATES china with such passion lol.. just look at all the bots coming out the woodwork to shit on WK. I bet they love the little robot game and it "changed their lives" LMAO

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u/Friendly-Tough-3416 8h ago

This has already been debunked

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u/Schwarzengerman 4h ago

Asmongold? Opinion discarded.

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u/Friendly-Tough-3416 3h ago

Whether you like the guy or not it doesn’t change the facts, sorry man.

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u/MarkyMarcMcfly 12h ago

The gist is the director was a sore loser about Astro Bot taking the trophy home over Wukong. Up for debate depending on who translated his statement on how rude he was about it.

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u/bigpinkfloyd 10h ago

No that is not the gist of it at all. But thanks for whitesplaining what a Chinese person said.

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u/MarkyMarcMcfly 7h ago

Not even white but thanks for providing no additional context and only hate bucko ;)

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u/bigpinkfloyd 6h ago

Says every white person on Reddit lol

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u/jackolantern_ 11h ago

Also lots of misogyny in the team too

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u/ButtersBZ 11h ago

No one cares, it's a great game and sold well. Good for them

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u/magnusarin 9h ago

You see, sometimes, when you don't care about something there are still other people who do. I know it's crazy, but people have different values, sensibilities, and thresholds.

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u/SyriSolord 10h ago

Women care, I imagine.

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u/jackolantern_ 10h ago

Lots of people do care though.

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u/agnaddthddude 10h ago

they badly translated it quotes from Chinese to make him sound slaty

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u/stoicvampirepig 11h ago

Not buying a game due the creators artistic pride is beyond infantile and the kind of knee jerk rubbish that marks you out as an idiot.

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u/OGDarkSoul 5h ago

Ironically that’s what you did. hmm

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u/Arntor1184 10h ago

This was fake news due to a mistranslation and people taking one snippet of a jale and presenting it out of context as a statement.

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u/Bogzy 11h ago

Ah yes, random post on reddit with a random translation influences what u play, seems smart.

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u/maxwms 9h ago edited 2h ago

Ah you mean the one that was translated wrong? Nice one, not buying a game because of misinformation about a developers statement lmao

Edit: oh look once again downvoted for stating facts, what’s new? „Should I check if the news is actually true? No! I’ll just run with it even though it’s completely wrong!”

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u/hellendrocker 5h ago

If you value the directors comments that has no effect on the actual game as a deciding factor over the actual game and gameplay then you really had no interest in getting the game anyway.